DROxINxTHExWIND: So, a guy who wasn't bothering anyone was looking for a place away from everyone to smoke his marijuana and he's stopped, searched, and arrested for three days./Seems fair//Smh
Smackledorfer: DROxINxTHExWIND: So, a guy who wasn't bothering anyone was looking for a place away from everyone to smoke his marijuana and he's stopped, searched, and arrested for three days./Seems fair//SmhFair? No.Something that should even be illegal? No.Reasonable interaction between cops and a person on the street? Yes.They had reason to encounter this person. It seems, ftfa anyways, that it was a consensual encounter, and the guy gave the cops a story that didn't fit (said he lived there, address 15 miles away), and then flat out informed them he had weed and was looking to smoke it.If it helps in your interpretations of the police action on this one, substitute a crime that you DO think should be enforced, and replace those details.The encounter transitioning into a terry stop was done legally.The search was done legally.The arrest was legal.He was not arrested FOR three days. He was arrested a second time, three days later.He was arrested three days later for loitering or prowling and remains in the Brevard County Jail.
DROxINxTHExWIND: "Looking suspicious" is very vague
DROxINxTHExWIND: For all any of us know, this man was simply walking down the street and the cops made a determination that he didn't belong
DROxINxTHExWIND: Now, we just have a guy being stopped, questioned, and searched for no reason.
DROxINxTHExWIND: I think this stuff hits home for me because I live through it.
RockofAges: "He was duly arrested for being black, and not in his appointed slave pen. Thus sayeth the letter of the law". (Old Timey Law O' The Land -- ie. Absolute Tome of Ethics -- I think you get my point.)I don't think anyone is defending the creeper, but rather the legitimacy of the "crime" itself. Obviously dumbass is dumb. We don't need teacher to tell us that.Prohibition is even dumber (as it causes more harm than a singular idjit) and all arguments over nits and the obvious should be laid to rest until it's dead and buried.
RockofAges: Confabulat: I got arrested for weed just like 2 days ago. I was the one who called the police (a buddy was all coked out of his skull and breaking all the mirrors and threatening his girlfriend who was sobbing in the corner). Nothing like finding yourself in cuffs after you're the one who dialed 911.Come on man. If more people like you would just hurry up and get arrested, maybe the law would change. Put your head in the noose for the peanut gallery, son!/sarc
LittleSmitty: Rule #1 - Do your smoking at homeRule #2 - If you MUST carry your weed around, don't carry more than you can eat quickly
D_Evans45: I think the real news is being arrested for possession as opposed to merely cited in todays society. Looking for somewhere to smoke isnt a huge qualifier. Do people still serve jail time on personal amounts nowadays? The kids around here all get medical cards for a stubbed toe the day they turn 18 and can carry around several ounces, legally allowed by state law.
RockofAges: Smackledorfer: RockofAges: "He was duly arrested for being black, and not in his appointed slave pen. Thus sayeth the letter of the law". (Old Timey Law O' The Land -- ie. Absolute Tome of Ethics -- I think you get my point.)I don't think anyone is defending the creeper, but rather the legitimacy of the "crime" itself. Obviously dumbass is dumb. We don't need teacher to tell us that.Prohibition is even dumber (as it causes more harm than a singular idjit) and all arguments over nits and the obvious should be laid to rest until it's dead and buried.Prohibition is stupid. I said it in my Weeners and I'll say it again. If you like you can ask me to say it any time and I will agree. None of that has a damn thing to do with the arguments Dro was making, which were NOT about prohibition being stupid, but were rather about how the facts of the arrest, as he changed them to be, should be viewed as bad police-work.As for whether police should be enforcing the laws as written? They should. You are free to disagree, but I feel that equal enforcement is preferable to having lots of crap on the books that they can ignore when my clean cut white ass walks down the street and then jump all over to use as a stepping to stone to arrest/search/harass/whatever people that the individual cop doesn't like.In other words, I should be pulled over for a broken tail light, or not, for the same reason a black person, a suspected illegal alien, someone dressed like a pimp, someone with the wrong political bumper sticker, wtf-ever: having a broken tail light.In a way, I kind of believe that increased enforcement of the bad laws would actually get voters off their ass to change them. When it comes out into the open that everybody is doing it, including successful people, we will stop being able to demonize a given activity as much. Maybe that is just a daydream :/VK Test Time (yes, nerding out. Excuse any historical inaccuracy)You are a law enforcement officer during a period in America in which slavery of blacks is the norm. A piece of property has escaped his owner's land; you have intercepted the slave headed north to Canada.Do you draw down on old blacky and tell that piece of chattel to git his ass walking back to the pen?/because really, you should.
RockofAges: Well, I'm impressed./Stay classy.
Cast: Bullshiat story is bullshiat, and no reasonable person carries their stash around in 3 baggies either
RockofAges: Smackledorfer: RockofAges: Well, I'm impressed./Stay classy.You threw classy out the window when you suggested enforcing a marijuana prohibition law was comparable to shooting at fleeing slaves.You threw logic out the window when you produced the volume of pap you call an argument upthread, and I thought I would just give you a simple example of how your absolutism is flawed in the case of unethical laws and why people should disobey them -- and that ethical lawmen (and citizens / countrymen) should know better than to enforce victimless "crimes" with no harm principle being invoked whatsoever.Counter to your argument that "Well that thars the law so them thar deputy's be enforcing it no matter what -- and that's good." which is essentially the authoritarian bedrock.So there's that./Good night San Diago.
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