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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-30 08:54:35 AM  
The feds stopped considering REAL ID as an urgent requirement when they got biometric data from state DMVs. If they can take your picture and look you up, the piece of plastic is less important.
 
2013-12-30 08:55:15 AM  
Well think of it this way, WND - now you can show a National ID to vote.  Happy now, you cretins?
 
2013-12-30 08:59:36 AM  
MARK OF THE BEAST!
 
2013-12-30 09:00:59 AM  
A backdoor for what? It's a government-issued ID; there's nothing on there they wouldn't already know, because you would have to tell them in order to get the ID.

It's like complaining that the government has access to the information on your passport.
 
2013-12-30 09:01:00 AM  
The new logo threw me for a second and I accidentally clicked on the WND link. I closed it immediately, but now Siri asks for a birth certificate before completing requests.
 
2013-12-30 09:01:38 AM  
Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical
 
2013-12-30 09:01:42 AM  
Just pee in this cup, citizen, and give us a swab, and a blood sample, and a lock of hair.
Now we all feel safer.
 
2013-12-30 09:02:24 AM  
content.costco.com
Stock up, everyone.

/You know the next step, right? THE GUBMINT GON' GIT YER GUNZ!!!11!!
 
2013-12-30 09:02:41 AM  
No way is Alexis Middlename Sample 57 years old.
 
2013-12-30 09:03:47 AM  
derp connoisseurs can find a buffet of fine offerings in that comment section.
 
2013-12-30 09:05:36 AM  

Smoking GNU: Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical


I'm OK with this.
 
2013-12-30 09:07:02 AM  

I_C_Weener: Smoking GNU: Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical

I'm OK with this.


And for that you're upgraded to Grey 3.
 
2013-12-30 09:08:09 AM  
trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, "Your papers, please!"

ah yes, this from the author of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

/your papers, indeed.
 
2013-12-30 09:09:46 AM  

Smoking GNU: Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical


That's the thing: had the derp brigade (from both wings) not come out in force and shut it down in 2002, we would already have a national ID system which would have eliminated voter fraud and would eliminate the healthcare fraud so many on the Right are predicting.

The farkers fought against the concept of a national ID but did NOTHING about the PATRIOT Act!
 
2013-12-30 09:10:43 AM  
Alright, I get it. Parse error on subby's headline. It's too early.
 
2013-12-30 09:11:16 AM  

qorkfiend: A backdoor for what? It's a government-issued ID; there's nothing on there they wouldn't already know, because you would have to tell them in order to get the ID.

It's like complaining that the government has access to the information on your passport.


Wait, the government has access to the information on my passport!?
 
2013-12-30 09:13:40 AM  
i885.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-30 09:13:56 AM  

qorkfiend: A backdoor for what? It's a government-issued ID; there's nothing on there they wouldn't already know, because you would have to tell them in order to get the ID.

It's like complaining that the government has access to the information on your passport.


It's the whole "federal government bad, local government good" dual thinking they've been trying to push with the states rights argument. Your state government should be able to know who you are at all times to protect against identity theft and to prevent voter fraud. Your federal government shouldn't know who you are because they would only use that information to harass you and take away your freedoms.
 
2013-12-30 09:14:26 AM  

ultraholland: trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, "Your papers, please!"

ah yes, this from the author of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

/your papers, indeed.


LOL.  Brilliant.
 
2013-12-30 09:17:39 AM  
Today on 'Is it Real, or is it Derp!'
 
2013-12-30 09:18:13 AM  

INeedAName: Today on 'Is it Real, or is it Derp!'


Derp. It's always derp. Derp all the way down.
 
2013-12-30 09:21:15 AM  

I_C_Weener: Smoking GNU: Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical

I'm OK with this.


Yeah +1 here. I get a lot of the privacy arguments, but adhering to security requirements for IDs and licenses is just a good idea. It's not like they are tossing biometric data onto them (like they did passports). Given how important identification is on a daily basis, I don't see how this is a bad idea if it gets out to everyone who needs it.
 
2013-12-30 09:21:41 AM  
Wake up, sheeple!  These new fascist Obama IDs will be laced with chem trail chemicals, so that every time one of his goons demands your identification, you'll be given a dose of meds to make you compliant.
 
2013-12-30 09:21:59 AM  
Waffle Nerf Dingle.
Wimpy Nerdy Dork.
Wobbly Nimble Dinkus.
Whipple Nobber Doodle.
Whopper Nipple Doobie.
Winkle Nappy Dorf.
 
2013-12-30 09:23:11 AM  

Grungehamster: qorkfiend: A backdoor for what? It's a government-issued ID; there's nothing on there they wouldn't already know, because you would have to tell them in order to get the ID.

It's like complaining that the government has access to the information on your passport.

It's the whole "federal government bad, local government good" dual thinking they've been trying to push with the states rights argument. Your state government should be able to know who you are at all times to protect against identity theft and to prevent voter fraud. Your federal government shouldn't know who you are because they would only use that information to harass you and take away your freedoms.


Yeah, whenever I talk with someone who declares that "local governs best". I like to remind them that their HoA that they hate is the most local form of government. And that in fact if all government was abolished today government would spring anew, first in the form of small neighborhood associations or HoAs.
 
2013-12-30 09:26:08 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Waffle Nerf Dingle.
Wimpy Nerdy Dork.
Wobbly Nimble Dinkus.
Whipple Nobber Doodle.
Whopper Nipple Doobie.
Winkle Nappy Dorf.


We hate that Ni...uh, that is, um, you know, ahhhh, "socialist" Democrat.
 
2013-12-30 09:28:40 AM  

imontheinternet: Wake up, sheeple!  These new fascist Obama IDs will be laced with chem trail chemicals, so that every time one of his goons demands your identification, you'll be given a dose of meds to make you compliant.


A Barack New World?
 
2013-12-30 09:33:55 AM  

I_C_Weener: A Barack New World?


www.secretsofthefed.com
Are you making fun of Dear Leader? Don't make me turn you in to Homeland Security.
 
MFK
2013-12-30 09:35:27 AM  
are these assholes seriously complaining about the Real ID Act? Their farkwit party was in control of ALL THREE BRANCHES of government in 2005 when this asinine law was passed. This was THEIR FARKING IDEA!
 
2013-12-30 09:37:05 AM  
Let's make a list. Currently I have in my wallet a Government Issued:
--Drivers License
--Retired Military ID Card
--Government ID Card for work
--Social Security Card

At home I have a Government Issued Passport

Dog only knows how many government data bases I am listed in.
Dog only knows how many international government data bases I am listed in.

So, I am not seeing a problem here and if they can use it as a voting ID, all the better.
 
2013-12-30 09:37:08 AM  
I don't see what is big deal. My government issue ID come in mail just yesterday. I am now totally legitimate citizen!


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2013-12-30 09:37:25 AM  

MFK: are these assholes seriously complaining about the Real ID Act? Their farkwit party was in control of ALL THREE BRANCHES of government in 2005 when this asinine law was passed. This was THEIR FARKING IDEA!


"Obama's" CFL lightbulbs already killed freedom in this country to them. Why should Real ID be any different?
 
2013-12-30 09:38:32 AM  

ultraholland: trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, "Your papers, please!"

ah yes, this from the author of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

/your papers, indeed.


And I'm sure they have no problem with southern states requiring any brown person to carry an ID.

MFK: are these assholes seriously complaining about the Real ID Act? Their farkwit party was in control of ALL THREE BRANCHES of government in 2005 when this asinine law was passed. This was THEIR FARKING IDEA!


I know Republicans here in Texas who blame "the liberals" for Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, the Patriot Act, and the length of the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations.
 
2013-12-30 09:39:43 AM  

Brick-House: Let's make a list. Currently I have in my wallet a Government Issued:
--Drivers License
--Retired Military ID Card
--Government ID Card for work
--Social Security Card

At home I have a Government Issued Passport

Dog only knows how many government data bases I am listed in.
Dog only knows how many international government data bases I am listed in.

So, I am not seeing a problem here and if they can use it as a voting ID, all the better.


Any particular reason you carry your SS card with you? That's just a bad idea on so many levels.
 
2013-12-30 09:40:01 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: And I'm sure they have no problem with southern states requiring any brown person to carry an ID.


They'll just mandate that only an NRA card will be accepted for voting.  Because states' rights.
 
2013-12-30 09:40:41 AM  
DHS announced a final schedule for the full enforcement of the REAL ID Act of 2005.

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DHS made clear 75% of all U.S. drivers currently hold licenses from state jurisdictions deemed to meet the REAL ID standards, or from states that have received extensions

So another 25% and America slips into a 1,000 years of darkness?

Thanks for the heads up.

For many Americans, the full implementation of the REAL ID act is certain to trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, "Your papers, please!"

WWII ended almost 70 years ago I'm not sure that many people are gonna remember that.
 
2013-12-30 09:41:26 AM  

ultraholland: trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, "Your papers, please!"

ah yes, this from the author of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

/your papers, indeed.


God dammit, only Arizona is allowed to demand your papers!

And voting officials.
 
2013-12-30 09:43:17 AM  
So for $30 I can get a 10 year Western Hemisphere passport so I don't have to spend another $100/head if I want to go on a cruise or whatever?  Sounds like a deal to me.

Of course, they will probably put an unencrypted RFID chip in it so anybody with a $50 scanner (or whatever they cost) can brush past me and steal my information.
 
2013-12-30 09:43:32 AM  

quatchi: WWII ended almost 70 years ago I'm not sure that many people are gonna remember that.


LOL.  Corsi himself was born in 1946.
 
2013-12-30 09:45:56 AM  
Mark Of The Beast! Mark Of The Beast!
 
2013-12-30 09:45:58 AM  

redmid17: Any particular reason you carry your SS card with you? That's just a bad idea on so many levels.


It's very hard to remember a nine-digit number when you can only count to "Pickle".
 
2013-12-30 09:46:03 AM  

Diogenes: Satanic_Hamster: And I'm sure they have no problem with southern states requiring any brown person to carry an ID.

They'll just mandate that only an NRA card will be accepted for voting.  Because states' rights.


I'm waiting for the first state to try not only only treating IDs that suggest conservative voting patterns as valid, but outright try to claim having a union membership card or student ID in your wallet is suspicious enough to suggest attempted voter fraud and mean you get turned away even if you otherwise have valid ID.
 
2013-12-30 09:47:07 AM  
DHS made clear 75 percent of all U.S. drivers currently hold licenses from state jurisdictions deemed to meet the REAL ID standards, or from states that have received extensions.

So those in the states that don't comply weep for the 75% of US (and Guam, etc) who are enslaved by the gummint.

Probably the same states where you need a passport to vote since it's easier and certainly more pleasant to get a passport than to lug in all the "right" documents to get a driver's license.
 
2013-12-30 09:48:18 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Of course, they will probably put an unencrypted RFID chip in it so anybody with a $50 scanner (or whatever they cost) can brush past me and steal my information.


Nope

While states are free to add their own security features, the inclusion of an RFID chip is not a requirement under the REAL ID Act.
 
2013-12-30 09:48:55 AM  

quatchi: WWII ended almost 70 years ago I'm not sure that many people are gonna remember that.


I'm sure the median WND reader remembers.
/wonder why they didn't compare it to any current law on the books that requires people to have identification on their person at all times...
 
2013-12-30 09:49:11 AM  

Grungehamster: Diogenes: Satanic_Hamster: And I'm sure they have no problem with southern states requiring any brown person to carry an ID.

They'll just mandate that only an NRA card will be accepted for voting.  Because states' rights.

I'm waiting for the first state to try not only only treating IDs that suggest conservative voting patterns as valid, but outright try to claim having a union membership card or student ID in your wallet is suspicious enough to suggest attempted voter fraud and mean you get turned away even if you otherwise have valid ID.


I believe some states have already tried the first part.  I'm thinking Texas, Oklahoma, and/or North Carolina.  The second part remains to be seen.
 
2013-12-30 09:49:49 AM  
I've got 4 national ID

1) TWIC - DHS Background Check + face and fingerprints
2) Passport - Department of State Background Check + face (no chip, yet...got in before they issued them)
3) Trusted Traveler - DHS Background Check (additional -- they wouldn't accept the TWIC as a check) + face and fingerprints
4) A&P Mechanic License - Pretty much as insecure as possible - no background check, no face and no fingerprints

So, I really don't care. I need the TWIC to work, Passport to travel and since I had #1 and #2, #3 made sense because I don't want to wait in lines. #4 was an accident as a less-than-stellar decision of an 18 year old.

Now if I can only get a card that has all of my medical info so that regardless of the doctor I go to, they know everything about me (yes, I am absolutely serious).
 
2013-12-30 09:51:54 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Smoking GNU: Now everyone who is a citizen of the US will get a photo ID and will be able to vote, no problem. What's the high-blood pressure about now?

/rhetorical

That's the thing: had the derp brigade (from both wings) not come out in force and shut it down in 2002, we would already have a national ID system which would have eliminated voter fraud and would eliminate the healthcare fraud so many on the Right are predicting.

The farkers fought against the concept of a national ID but did NOTHING about the PATRIOT Act!


Finally someone that realizes it's an acronym.  I do believe there were some lawsuits against the so-called PATRIOT Act.  I personally think it is very clearly unconstitutional and needs to be scrapped, and I've believed this since Day 1.
 
2013-12-30 09:52:30 AM  

Brick-House: Let's make a list. Currently I have in my wallet a Government Issued:
--Drivers License
--Retired Military ID Card
--Government ID Card for work
--Social Security Card


You're supposed to carry the work ID in a case that provides shielding for the RFID chip and you're not supposed to carry your SS card at all.
 
2013-12-30 09:53:58 AM  
I can't even find my original SS card.  I really should get that rectified before they make it nearly impossible.
 
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