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2013-12-30 09:18:38 AM
Even my dad is using Instagram to post pictures of the food he cooks. Facebook now only serves to sustain insane political rants to annoy the few people who still occasionally look on it. I'm sorry, it's gone.
 
2013-12-30 09:20:50 AM
It doesn't matter. Facebook won where the real money is. Bored adults who get to keep in touch with extended family more easily. I'd rather advertise my crap to fifty something year old women than thirteen year olds with no money.
 
2013-12-30 09:21:09 AM
They said the same thing about MySpace and it's still going strong.
 
2013-12-30 09:27:16 AM

picturescrazy: It doesn't matter. Facebook won where the real money is. Bored adults who get to keep in touch with extended family more easily. I'd rather advertise my crap to fifty something year old women than thirteen year olds with no money.


Right? They need to adjust their marketing to move up with the age brackets. Ignore the teens and tweens and focus on the 30-40yr olds with families who want to keep in touch without having to learn new tech.
 
2013-12-30 09:47:22 AM
Why do people keep saying that the plural of anecdote is not data? Take a thousand anecdotes, and it becomes statistically significant. That's precisely how surveys work.
 
2013-12-30 09:48:40 AM
You know Facebook is a dead medium when your 86 year old grandmother, who resides in a nursing home, in a rare moment of lucidity, tells you that she needs to get a 'Book Face', because the other 'girls' at the bingo night she organises all have a 'Book Face' which help them stay in touch with all their friends and enables them to 'Like' stuff. "I can't remember when I last told all my family that I 'Like' them, so I thought, as you (me) are 'with computers' that you could get me a 'Book Face', so that we can be friends and 'Like' the same things"

She doesn't have a computer, and IAF decries them as being "The Devil's Tool" because.... OMG pr0n...

Yeah, I shiat you not, Bookface is dead.

/She's now 91
 
2013-12-30 09:51:30 AM
Zuckerberg is selling off his brainchild and cashing out (and paying taxes). When he walks, it's time to go.

/don't miss the place at all.
 
2013-12-30 09:53:55 AM
I call it "The Internet Prisoner Dilemma."  If everyone is online catching up on what everyone else is doing, nobody is actually doing anything.

I have teenagers (boys).  Pulling them off of FB used to take physical force.  These days, they barely glance at it and then go back to marathon video chat sessions with their girlfriends.
 
2013-12-30 09:56:30 AM

because I care: Why do people keep saying that the plural of anecdote is not data? Take a thousand anecdotes, and it becomes statistically significant. That's precisely how surveys work.


No, because anecdotes inherently introduce selection bias.  If you listened to a hundred stories from people who got struck by lightning, you'd think it was a terrifying plague?  Or would you think it's extremely memeorable thing that happens quite rarely?


There's no such thing as an anticdote(patent pending), where someone tells you, in depth, about what didn't happen to them.
 
2013-12-30 09:58:36 AM

uttertosh: You know Facebook is a dead medium when your 86 year old grandmother, who resides in a nursing home, in a rare moment of lucidity, tells you that she needs to get a 'Book Face', because the other 'girls' at the bingo night she organises all have a 'Book Face' which help them stay in touch with all their friends and enables them to 'Like' stuff. "I can't remember when I last told all my family that I 'Like' them, so I thought, as you (me) are 'with computers' that you could get me a 'Book Face', so that we can be friends and 'Like' the same things"

She doesn't have a computer, and IAF decries them as being "The Devil's Tool" because.... OMG pr0n...

Yeah, I shiat you not, Bookface is dead.

/She's now 91


www.feelguide.com

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2013-12-30 10:28:08 AM

bulok: They said the same thing about MySpace and it's still going strong.


Snerk!
 
2013-12-30 10:28:50 AM
Yes, because as soon as teens stopped loving them, the Rolling Stones were no longer able to make money touring. With an aging population, I'm not sure if marketing to teens is as sure-fire a recipe for success that it was back in the 60s because the demographics are all different.

Also, I'm sure that over time you'll see those teens start using it to keep track of classmates and family as time goes on. It's a great service for keeping track of people you know, but don't want to spend a lot of time messaging with them. You could sort of replace certain features with Snapchat or Instagram, but right now it is a good one stop shop for dealing with your extended social circle without a lot of effort.
 
2013-12-30 10:39:25 AM

ikanreed: There's no such thing as an anticdote(patent pending), where someone tells you, in depth, about what didn't happen to them.


You don't frequent many entertainment tab threads about young starlets eh?
 
2013-12-30 10:43:31 AM
I still use it to look for bikini pics of chicks I know and coworkers.

Now that's what I call good fap material.
 
2013-12-30 11:42:26 AM

ikanreed: because I care: Why do people keep saying that the plural of anecdote is not data? Take a thousand anecdotes, and it becomes statistically significant. That's precisely how surveys work.

No, because anecdotes inherently introduce selection bias.  If you listened to a hundred stories from people who got struck by lightning, you'd think it was a terrifying plague?  Or would you think it's extremely memeorable thing that happens quite rarely?


There's no such thing as an anticdote(patent pending), where someone tells you, in depth, about what didn't happen to them.


Thank you for stomping on the pernicious idea that a thousand people telling about the time they got jinxed that witches exist.
 
2013-12-30 11:44:01 AM
Facebook is going the way of MySpace and Live Journal, eventually all your friends will have moved on and so will you. Then they will just be foreigners and people who are not hep cats.
 
2013-12-30 11:45:11 AM

because I care: Why do people keep saying that the plural of anecdote is not data? Take a thousand anecdotes, and it becomes statistically significant. That's precisely how surveys work.


Surveys! Surveys! Sure if you could do surveys if you want statistically disputable results. Surveys are the ghetto of statistics.
 
2013-12-30 12:14:15 PM
FB might not be at its peak anymore but I am sure it will still be around for years in some form or another.
 
2013-12-30 12:22:07 PM

groppet: FB might not be at its peak anymore but I am sure it will still be around for years in some form or another.


What do people mean that FB isn't at its peak anymore? I can guarantee you even though some people have migrated from using some of the features on FB to another tool that serves those functions better, they STILL have a FB profile and check it all the time. The key to FB is stalking. Most people use it to stalk the relatively few people who post continually on it. That activity hasn't really gone down. The activity that has decrease are those that were new(er) to FB that rarely used it now don't "use it" but still probably stalk. Then there is the issue of burn out. I know a lot of folks that were INCREDIBLY active that deactivated their accounts because it consumed their lives.

The thing that I hate about FB is that fact that it is a total misrepresentation of people. I have so many friends that get depressed when they go on their FB marathons because they see all of their friends are going on vacation, having babies, getting married, etc. You don't see the bad really. When you do, it is someone looking for sympathy which is nauseating. When will people realize that Facebook is an edited document, not the uncut version of life.
 
2013-12-30 12:27:18 PM

picturescrazy: It doesn't matter. Facebook won where the real money is. Bored adults who get to keep in touch with extended family more easily. I'd rather advertise my crap to fifty something year old women than thirteen year olds with no money.


It doesn't matter that 50 year olds have more money. They spend it far more wisely than kids do, which means there's little margin for marketing. 50 year olds don't buy so much marketed stuff, don't go changing their stuff on a whim, don't go buying crap they don't need.
 
2013-12-30 12:33:33 PM

doczoidberg: I still use it to look for bikini pics of chicks I know and coworkers.

Now that's what I call good fap material.




You work at a better office than I.
 
2013-12-30 12:46:36 PM

the money is in the banana stand: What do people mean that FB isn't at its peak anymore? I can guarantee you even though some people have migrated from using some of the features on FB to another tool that serves those functions better, they STILL have a FB profile and check it all the time.


for now

I quite FB quite a while ago. Most of my friends are much heavier on Twitter and using blogs, so it was never a big deal for me, but they were still updating even after they were using Twitter more. Then eventually, I only had people on FB that I wasn't too bothered about, at which point I stopped checking and then cancelled my account.

The warning to all social networks: Someone in the Guardian wrote an article in early 2007 titled: "Will MySpace ever lose its monopoly?" Someone in the Daily Telegraph in mid 2007 wrote an article titled "
The myth of the MySpace generation". People investing on a 100/1 P/E ratio on Facebook are just nuts.
 
2013-12-30 01:35:20 PM
I was on Facebook for about a month, give or take a couple weeks.

I was there long enough to reunite with the love of my life, connect with her, and then quit Facebook.

We're engaged now. So I guess I have to say Thank You to Facebook, but that doesn't mean I want to be on there anymore. I got everything I want from it. Facebook still sucks.

/The comments on Facebook make me want to pull my hair out.
//Facebook is 90% abject stupidity, 8% people who have to put up with it, and 2% people who maintain an account to enter online contests.
 
2013-12-30 02:24:29 PM
Fano:

Thank you for stomping on the pernicious idea that a thousand people telling about the time they got jinxed that witches exist.

This post is messing with my head because the tone reads as sarcastic, but... it doesn't make sense when parsed that way.
 
2013-12-30 02:43:00 PM

farkeruk: picturescrazy: It doesn't matter. Facebook won where the real money is. Bored adults who get to keep in touch with extended family more easily. I'd rather advertise my crap to fifty something year old women than thirteen year olds with no money.

It doesn't matter that 50 year olds have more money. They spend it far more wisely than kids do, which means there's little margin for marketing. 50 year olds don't buy so much marketed stuff, don't go changing their stuff on a whim, don't go buying crap they don't need.


This. That's why the "key demographic" for television advertisements are 18-49 year olds.
 
2013-12-30 03:06:55 PM

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: doczoidberg: I still use it to look for bikini pics of chicks I know and coworkers.

Now that's what I call good fap material.

You work at a better office than I.


He forgot to mention he works at a children's daycare.
 
2013-12-30 03:15:35 PM
"Data is ethnographic/qualitative". So in other words, we don't know anything.
 
2013-12-30 04:04:50 PM

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: doczoidberg: I still use it to look for bikini pics of chicks I know and coworkers.

Now that's what I call good fap material.

You work at a better office than I.


Actually, I suppose I am rather fortunate, working here at the modelling agency.
 
2013-12-30 05:40:21 PM
I constantly hear people say shiat like "but it lets me reconnect with friends I knew years ago!". If they were really your friends in the first place you guys never would have fallen out of touch. Great, so now you know what your 9th grade gym teacher is up to. That adds something to your lives? It just ties into this whole Reality TV bullshiat culture we've created. We obsess over how others are living their lives. Who gives a fark!?
 
2013-12-30 05:45:09 PM

ikanreed: Fano:

Thank you for stomping on the pernicious idea that a thousand people telling about the time they got jinxed that witches exist.

This post is messing with my head because the tone reads as sarcastic, but... it doesn't make sense when parsed that way.


It's supposed to catch In the brains of those that believe in plural anecdotes like a maddening shard of glass
 
2013-12-30 06:28:24 PM

Fano: ikanreed: Fano:

Thank you for stomping on the pernicious idea that a thousand people telling about the time they got jinxed that witches exist.

This post is messing with my head because the tone reads as sarcastic, but... it doesn't make sense when parsed that way.

It's supposed to catch In the brains of those that believe in plural anecdotes like a maddening shard of glass



So what about Nate Silver and Sam Wang predicting the 2012 election with a high degree of accuracy using nothing but polls? Polls are simply anecdotes about who people are going to vote for in aggregate.
 
2013-12-30 07:07:01 PM

the money is in the banana stand: You work at a better office than I.

He forgot to mention he works at a children's daycare.


lolbot.net
 
2013-12-30 08:53:21 PM
Facebook is a reflection of your life. If your friends and family suck then your Facebook is going to suck.
 
2013-12-30 09:47:17 PM
From what I can tell, Facebook is only used by middle-aged women to post platitudes about how they love their bodies, no matter how large they are.

/I need different friends
 
2013-12-30 10:12:55 PM
So Facebook is going away and being replaced with what, exactly?

That's what I thought.
 
2013-12-31 02:43:58 AM

HaywoodJablonski: So Facebook is going away and being replaced with what, exactly?

That's what I thought.


Same question applied to AOL.  The answer ended up being something that didn't look like AOL at all.
 
2013-12-31 05:47:12 AM
*sees thread*

Oh thank god, facebook is finally dying.  Now what's the new thing that I can feel a little smug about never using?

*clicks article*

"Snapchat", "WhatsApp", and Instagram.  Literally never heard of the first two, and I thought Instagram was a facebook thing anyway, but whatever.

*makes mental note*

Now #ifonly twitter would #finallyfarkingdie. #pleasego #yolo #hashtag
 
2013-12-31 09:15:56 AM

dookdookdook: *sees thread*

Oh thank god, facebook is finally dying.  Now what's the new thing that I can feel a little smug about never using?

*clicks article*

"Snapchat", "WhatsApp", and Instagram.  Literally never heard of the first two, and I thought Instagram was a facebook thing anyway, but whatever.

*makes mental note*

Now #ifonly twitter would #finallyfarkingdie. #pleasego #yolo #hashtag


Snapchat is a tool for 17-24 year olds and creppy old guys to send pictures of their junk.
WhatsApp is SMS but using data instead. It's absolutely pointless as sending an SMS is much cheaper compared to data and it is nearly impossible to find a phone plan for smart phones that comes with data without unlimited SMS.

Neither of these are going to last over two-three years,

I still don't get why instant messaging (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, ect) fell out of popularity as nothing has really replaced their functionality.
 
2013-12-31 09:20:49 AM
Very funny, and they spent all that money on the IPO and stock because they thought the kids would stick with it for life.  Maybe the kids don't like all the snooping so much by both adults and the company.

Now if you could create social media with extreme privacy where even the company cannot misuse it, then you may have a place where they teenagers may feel safer.
 
2013-12-31 09:23:08 AM

Saners: Snapchat is a tool for 17-24 year olds and creppy old guys to send pictures of their junk.


So. . .it's chatroulette?
 
2013-12-31 09:43:18 AM

Saners: WhatsApp is SMS but using data instead. It's absolutely pointless as sending an SMS is much cheaper compared to data and it is nearly impossible to find a phone plan for smart phones that comes with data without unlimited SMS.


maybe in the usa, but globe is big... say you have restricted data AND restricted SMS, but someone then appears ina  wi-fi hot spot. whatsapp doesn't sound as useless all of a sudden....
 
2013-12-31 10:21:01 AM

FTFA: And there is plenty of data out there about Facebook - notably from the company itself which now has to update investors regularly about its users. The company's chief financial officer David Ebersman caused a tremor in the share price in October when he indicated that there had been a slight fall in daily activity on Facebook among teenagers.

Who wants to bet that baldy has a lot of FB shares?

The shares quickly recovered and have now scaled new heights - but surely when trading begins in New York on Monday afternoon traders will rush to sell in response to the "dead and buried" story?

Or perhaps they will decide that Professor Miller's theories show more journalistic flair than academic rigour.

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And don't call me Shirley.
 
2013-12-31 10:37:21 AM
"[obsolete technology] is going away? To be replaced by what exactly?
That's what I thought."
~ Every Unimaginative Person, throughout History
 
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