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2013-12-30 04:25:25 AM  

phrawgh: RandomRandom: JesusJuice: Any word on which Islamic terrorist group is responsible?

A good guess would be the Caucasian ones.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnia

They have some very good reasons to be a little annoyed with the Russians.

...and vice versa.


Not so much.   The Russians leveled Grozny to the ground with carpet bombing.
 

The Russians still occupy Chechnia.   There were many more Chechens killed than Russians.

The Chechens have a lot more reason to be annoyed with the Russians than vice versa.  There's strong evidence that much of the terrorism attributed to the Chechins was actually the work of the Russian security services.
 
2013-12-30 04:27:01 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: log_jammin: Fissile: The Boston bombing was Putin's revenge

lol!

Well, if Putin's revenge involves using the shiattiest terrorists ever, I'm not too scared.



The bombing was just part one of Putin's revenge.  Part two was giving Donnie Wahlberg another TV series.
 
2013-12-30 04:27:37 AM  

RandomRandom: phrawgh: RandomRandom: JesusJuice: Any word on which Islamic terrorist group is responsible?

A good guess would be the Caucasian ones.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnia

They have some very good reasons to be a little annoyed with the Russians.

...and vice versa.

Not so much.   The Russians leveled Grozny to the ground with carpet bombing.
 

The Russians still occupy Chechnia.   There were many more Chechens killed than Russians.

The Chechens have a lot more reason to be annoyed with the Russians than vice versa.  There's strong evidence that much of the terrorism attributed to the Chechins was actually the work of the Russian security services.


Yes. The first interactions between Chechnya and Russia happened in our lifetimes. I forgot about that.

/I wish I hadn't introduced them to one another at that cocktail party.
 
2013-12-30 04:38:10 AM  

ImpendingCynic: For it to be a valid comparison against GWB, Putin would have to take revenge on Finland.


That would only be true if it were the case that the Finnish government sanctioned an attempted assassination on Putin's father, who, by the way, would also have had to have been the former President of the United States.
 
2013-12-30 05:14:36 AM  

SevenizGud: Finnish government sanctioned an attempted assassination


And if Finland was compensating the families of Lithuanian suicide bombers trying to liberate Belarus.
 
2013-12-30 05:30:41 AM  

skinink: So even after Snowden reveals the NSA conspiracy to hoover up all the info they can on whoever they want including the heads of other countries, and incliding the Fark link below of the Der Spiegel story revealing how far the NSA will go, you still think a "Grand Conspiracy" is not feasable?


a spy agency keeping secrets from the general public, and the spy agencies of other countries isn't a "grand conspiracy". It's what we intended them to do when they were created by our elected reps.

you can not like what they've supposedly done, but that doesn't make it a conspiracy or outside the law.
 
2013-12-30 05:42:38 AM  
The US couldn't have been behind this. They were having tea with the global Zionist conspiracy at the same time  Fissile and  DrPainMD were circle jerking while huffing paint behind the local k-mart.
 
2013-12-30 05:59:09 AM  

dolphkhan: Another rothschilde zionist ploy played by the hands of the house of Al Saud. the sayanim(closer zionist) that is the jahoodi arabia treacherous phoney crypto jew klan that runs arabia now. Soon the arab world will come to awakening that this klan is composed of Crypto jews like Ataturk in Turkey and the Closet zionist Talaat pasha. Same architects and servants of the Rothschilde ugly vampire bats that sicken mankind and plague the human race. Time is slowly running out . with your P++sy riots and your khodorovskies and phoney bought and paid for revolutions under the guise of FREEDom .you are done as raw sushi!


///obviously
 
2013-12-30 06:12:35 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-30 06:34:37 AM  

OooShiny: OgreMagi: OooShiny: Gyrfalcon:   Putin's a lot meaner and more ruthless than even GWB ever even thought of being.

Bush said he just knew Putin had a soul when he saw him wearing a cross.

/The soul of an undead commie zombie, but hey that's just tomayto-tomahto so no biggy.

Know who else wore crosses (made from Iron)?

Is it 'circumferentially-hirsute Euros in Speedos'??


That cross is clearly made of fold, fake gold. If it were real, dude couldn't walk upright.
 
2013-12-30 06:40:07 AM  

dolphkhan: Another rothschilde zionist ploy played by the hands of the house of Al Saud. the sayanim(closer zionist) that is the jahoodi arabia treacherous phoney crypto jew klan that runs arabia now. Soon the arab world will come to awakening that this klan is composed of Crypto jews like Ataturk in Turkey and the Closet zionist Talaat pasha. Same architects and servants of the Rothschilde ugly vampire bats that sicken mankind and plague the human race. Time is slowly running out . with your P++sy riots and your khodorovskies and phoney bought and paid for revolutions under the guise of FREEDom .you are done as raw sushi!


Time for you to adjust your meds.
 
2013-12-30 06:51:47 AM  

Fissile: The CIA is behind these attacks.  The West has a long history of using Muslims from the Caucus Mountains to attack the Russia.


I voted that in as 'funny'. Thanks for the laugh.
 
2013-12-30 06:55:52 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: NewportBarGuy: There will be many, many more. Every militant group Putin is fighting will use this opportunity on the world's stage.

I say we keep our athletes home. This will get messy.

I say we send them over with grenade launchers.


Because grenade launchers are so effective at combating suicide bombers.
 
2013-12-30 07:02:53 AM  

gfid: Mambo Bananapatch: NewportBarGuy: There will be many, many more. Every militant group Putin is fighting will use this opportunity on the world's stage.

I say we keep our athletes home. This will get messy.

I say we send them over with grenade launchers.

Because grenade launchers are so effective at combating suicide bombers.


I'm glad you pointed out the flaws in that completely serious comment.
 
2013-12-30 07:04:30 AM  

bluorangefyre: So, how long until Putin starts bombing Chechnya?


shiat, had he stopped?

I thought they were still rolling around there killin' folk.
 
2013-12-30 07:30:13 AM  

Notabunny: I can't imagine how nervous the Olympic athletes and their families must be.


No apparently you can't.

I can. They're not nervous at all, why would they be?
 
2013-12-30 07:30:38 AM  
Ничто не ново под луною:
Что есть, то было, будет ввек.
И прежде кровь лилась рекою,
И прежде плакал человек...

As it shall always be.
 
2013-12-30 07:35:34 AM  

Fissile: The CIA is behind these attacks.  The West has a long history of using Muslims from the Caucus Mountains to attack the Russia.


They should use these Caucasian Mountain Shepherds instead of bombs.

dystopium.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-30 07:43:38 AM  
Because, Allah.
 
2013-12-30 07:58:03 AM  
I was kicked in the volgograd once.
 
2013-12-30 07:59:14 AM  

OgreMagi: OooShiny: Gyrfalcon:   Putin's a lot meaner and more ruthless than even GWB ever even thought of being.

Bush said he just knew Putin had a soul when he saw him wearing a cross.

/The soul of an undead commie zombie, but hey that's just tomayto-tomahto so no biggy.

Know who else wore crosses (made from Iron)?


James Coburn?

/time to watch that movie again.
 
2013-12-30 08:18:00 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-30 08:19:05 AM  

WorldCitizen: RandomRandom: Scythed: They pull off something like the Beslan Crisis during or even at the Olympics and there won't be a single Chechen or Dagestani left alive in Russia by this time next year. Putin will make sure of it.

Did you know that many typically non-conspiratorial analysts believe Putin came to power by blowing up innocent Russian apartment blocks?  There's actually quite a lot of evidence supporting the allegations.

The man who made the allegations was poisoned with something that could only have been sanctioned by the highest levels of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litvenenko#Claims_against_FSB_leadersh ip

What comes around...

I think my biggest problem with the idea of Grand Conspiracies is how they require a significant number of super competent people working together able to control wide spread events involving many people while at the same time all of them having a grand ability to keep long term secrets. Have you met people?


Have you met people who aren't hipster slackers? This may come as a shock, but not everyone thinks like you do, and some people are motivated by things other than money (which is really one of the poorest motivators, since nobody values the money itself, only the things that can be bought with the money). It is, in fact, possible to rally conspiracies, mobs, sometimes even entire armies with a binding ideology so strong that the individuals would literally rather die than betray their movement.

/and if they are willing to die, you had better believe they are much more willing to kill
 
2013-12-30 08:30:53 AM  

Tatterdemalian: think my biggest problem with the idea of Grand Conspiracies is how they require a significant number of super competent people working together able to control wide spread events involving many people while at the same time all of them having a grand ability to keep long term secrets. Have you met people?

Have you met people who aren't hipster slackers? This may come as a shock, but not everyone thinks like you do, and some people are motivated by things other than money (which is really one of the poorest motivators, since nobody values the money itself, only the things that can be bought with the money). It is, in fact, possible to rally conspiracies, mobs, sometimes even entire armies with a binding ideology so strong that the individuals would literally rather die than betray their movement.

/and if they are willing to die, you had better believe they are much more willing to kill


And the more individuals involved, the more likely that one of them won't be quite literally willing to die than betray the movement.

Another big problem with conspiracy theories is how quickly they develop without any evidence.  Note the people claiming it's the CIA or Saudi Arabia (or both) or even Israel behind this.  Sure, people here on Fark may be trolling or trying to be funny when they say that, but I guarantee you there are people out there in this world who absolutely believe that without any evidence whatsoever.  Don't worry, they'll find "evidence" which will be completely convincing to themselves though.

I can't rule out the CIA or Saudi Arabia or anyone else, but anyone who claims to "know" this at this point is either a kook or directly involved in the conspiracy.
 
2013-12-30 08:33:25 AM  
i.imgur.com
/Wanted for questioning
 
2013-12-30 08:40:52 AM  

redheededstepchild: OooShiny: OgreMagi: OooShiny: Gyrfalcon:   Putin's a lot meaner and more ruthless than even GWB ever even thought of being.

Bush said he just knew Putin had a soul when he saw him wearing a cross.

/The soul of an undead commie zombie, but hey that's just tomayto-tomahto so no biggy.

Know who else wore crosses (made from Iron)?

Is it 'circumferentially-hirsute Euros in Speedos'??

That cross is clearly made of fold, fake gold. If it were real, dude couldn't walk upright.


He will not be crucified upon a cross of gold. He wants to live, he wants to give.
 
2013-12-30 08:45:46 AM  

log_jammin: Fissile: The Boston bombing was Putin's revenge

lol!


===========

Laugh all you want to, everyone,  except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going.   The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics.  Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny.  Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.
 
2013-12-30 08:50:48 AM  

Nuclear Monk: Why does everyone always take it out on mass transit:(


That word right there is why.
 
2013-12-30 08:52:09 AM  

desertgeek: /couldn't happen to a nicer guy


Yeah all those Putins that were killed today really showed him...
 
2013-12-30 08:52:59 AM  

gfid: And the more individuals involved, the more likely that one of them won't be quite literally willing to die than betray the movement.


With the appropriate ideology and motivating factors, that chance can easily be reduced below the six-sigma threshold. Even among a set of over a hundred thousand individuals, betrayal can be made literally unthinkable, and only mistakes made by the conspirators or infiltration from the outside can reveal anything.

/once upon a time, liberty was one such ideology, and freedom the motivating factor
//then we started taking it for granted, and it wasn't enough any more
///that's why we lost it, and why it's never coming back
 
2013-12-30 08:57:56 AM  

LemSkroob: Nuclear Monk: Why does everyone always take it out on mass transit:(

That word right there is why.


So you're saying it's the Pope?
 
2013-12-30 09:00:36 AM  

Fissile: Laugh all you want to, everyone, except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going. The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics. Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny. Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.


You know the weird thing? Imagine if this crazy guy is right. Would we still mock him relentlessly or just have one of those "whoaaaaa" Keanu Reeves moments?

I'm not at all saying that you're right, Fissile. I'm just speculating possible outcomes (like you, really)
 
2013-12-30 09:02:32 AM  
With all of the crazy people in the world bombing people or in the case about the US, shootings. I have to ask a question: Why not take it out on people who deserve it instead?

It's always some group of regular people going about their business. Lame. Make a statement. You have ONE chance to make an impact. Instead of children in school why not a NAMBLA meeting? Instead of commuters why not a biker gang's bar? The possibilities are endless...
 
2013-12-30 09:02:38 AM  

Tatterdemalian: With the appropriate ideology and motivating factors, that chance can easily be reduced below the six-sigma threshold.


My god! The conspiracy is so vast that they conduct process improvement.   One would imagine that all the documentation requirements of CMMI level 3 would result in leaks...  unless, OH NO!  They have already reduced their defect rates to the entitlement level.
 
2013-12-30 09:04:02 AM  

Fissile: log_jammin: Fissile: The Boston bombing was Putin's revenge

lol!

===========

Laugh all you want to, everyone,  except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going.   The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics.  Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny.  Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.


lol!
 
2013-12-30 09:06:21 AM  

somedude210: Fissile: Laugh all you want to, everyone, except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going. The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics. Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny. Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.

You know the weird thing? Imagine if this crazy guy is right. Would we still mock him relentlessly or just have one of those "whoaaaaa" Keanu Reeves moments?

I'm not at all saying that you're right, Fissile. I'm just speculating possible outcomes (like you, really)


===============

Someone is supplying money, weapons and training to these Chechens.  Who might that be?  The Swiss?

http://pando.com/2013/12/19/the-war-nerd-saudis-syria-and-blowback/
 
2013-12-30 09:07:36 AM  
People will be entering anything Olympics naked, x-rayed, and all cavities torn inside out.
 
2013-12-30 09:10:16 AM  

tkwasny: People will be entering anything Olympics naked, x-rayed, and all cavities torn inside out.


http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/After-the-Shot/Field-Care%7C/p c /104791680/c/104689980/sc/104320080/Hunters-Specialties-Butt-Out174-2- Tool/741847.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffield-care%2F_%2FN-1 100181%2FNo-48%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104320080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat1047 91680%253Bcat104689980%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNP%26record sPerPage%3D48&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104791680%3Bcat104689980%3Bcat104320080 ">http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/After-the-Shot/Field-Care%7C /pc /104791680/c/104689980/sc/104320080/Hunters-Specialties-Butt-Out174-2- Tool/741847.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffield-care%2F_%2FN-1 100181%2FNo-48%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104320080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat1047 91680%253Bcat104689980%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNP%26record sPerPage%3D48&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104791680%3Bcat104689980%3Bcat104320080
 
2013-12-30 09:11:00 AM  

Fissile: Someone is supplying money, weapons and training to these Chechens.  Who might that be?  The Swiss?

http://pando.com/2013/12/19/the-war-nerd-saudis-syria-and-blowback/


Seems legit.
 
2013-12-30 09:21:57 AM  
You know how I know you don't know Russian?
 
2013-12-30 09:28:13 AM  

Fissile: somedude210: Fissile: Laugh all you want to, everyone, except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going. The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics. Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny. Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.

You know the weird thing? Imagine if this crazy guy is right. Would we still mock him relentlessly or just have one of those "whoaaaaa" Keanu Reeves moments?

I'm not at all saying that you're right, Fissile. I'm just speculating possible outcomes (like you, really)

===============

Someone is supplying money, weapons and training to these Chechens.  Who might that be?  The Swiss?

http://pando.com/2013/12/19/the-war-nerd-saudis-syria-and-blowback/


Go back to AboveTopSecret.
 
2013-12-30 09:31:36 AM  

Fissile: somedude210: Fissile: Laugh all you want to, everyone, except brain dead Fox News fans, know what's going. The CIA has the Saudis supplying weapons, money and training to the Chechens so as to disrupt the winter Olympics. Putin isn't going to respond this time by air-fuel bombing Grozny. Watch as certain members of the Saudi "royal" family mysteriously end up dead in the next few weeks/months.

You know the weird thing? Imagine if this crazy guy is right. Would we still mock him relentlessly or just have one of those "whoaaaaa" Keanu Reeves moments?

I'm not at all saying that you're right, Fissile. I'm just speculating possible outcomes (like you, really)

===============

Someone is supplying money, weapons and training to these Chechens.  Who might that be?  The Swiss?

http://pando.com/2013/12/19/the-war-nerd-saudis-syria-and-blowback/


an "article" by Gary Brecher AKA: War Nerd, who writes for The eXile, a tabloid based out of Moscow.

well I'm convinced.
 
2013-12-30 09:34:16 AM  

log_jammin: an "article" by Gary Brecher AKA: War Nerd, who writes for The eXile, a tabloid based out of Moscow.


===============

Um, Putin forced Ames & Co. out of Russia some time ago.
 
2013-12-30 09:36:53 AM  

Fissile: Um, Putin forced Ames & Co. out of Russia some time ago.


the weekly world news also went out of business.
 
2013-12-30 09:37:02 AM  
good. maybe this will stop the world from bothering with the olympics...

Which is what SHOULD have happened the minute Putin bragged about jailing homos.

/world is a disappointment that way
 
2013-12-30 09:38:42 AM  
From the comments at TFA:
"The BBC and the Guardian have already blamed the Jews. The UN demanded the Cohen family in Ariel desist from building that second bathroom."

You gotta admit, that's pretty funny.
 
2013-12-30 09:40:36 AM  

MadMattressMack: So it is time.

[static.fjcdn.com image 500x392]


img.fark.net
 
2013-12-30 09:44:03 AM  
Putin is finally going to get the chance to eradicate the vermin....
 
2013-12-30 09:50:29 AM  

Atillathepun: Fissile need new material

med's.
 
2013-12-30 09:51:39 AM  
The crazies might not be so crazy.   I found several articles from July/August that said the Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Bandar (also former Saudi Ambassador to the US) met with Putin and asked for cooperation on Syria and other areas in exchange for 'protection' against Chechen terrorist attacks leading up the Olympics, and he said he had American support.  He also said Saudi controls the Chechen rebels who would perform the attacks.

These articles were leaked to the Russian press obviously by the Russians as it paints Putin in a strong, positive light.

I don't think the USA had anything to do with the attacks, but it is an interesting background to these attacks and shows how complicated geopolitical events are.
 
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