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2013-12-30 02:08:22 AM
I'm sure everyone thinks 'world class city' when Indianapolis is mentioned.
 
2013-12-30 02:56:43 AM
And Chicago comes in as "the second city" yet again.
 
2013-12-30 03:22:59 AM
Well, what did you think the Indianapolis 500 meant?
 
2013-12-30 03:35:36 AM
 
2013-12-30 03:40:28 AM
"Joe Wynns, a former park director for the city, is a member of that church. He says in addition to better urban planning, the city needs more police walking neighborhoods."

I think urban planning and more police don't address the issues that are making people resort to violence.
 
2013-12-30 03:44:03 AM

skinink: "Joe Wynns, a former park director for the city, is a member of that church. He says in addition to better urban planning, the city needs more police walking neighborhoods."

I think urban planning and more police don't address the issues that are making people resort to violence.


Not enough guns?
 
2013-12-30 03:47:44 AM

pueblonative: skinink: "Joe Wynns, a former park director for the city, is a member of that church. He says in addition to better urban planning, the city needs more police walking neighborhoods."

I think urban planning and more police don't address the issues that are making people resort to violence.

Not enough guns?


I can't sleep without a really loud fan when I visit my sister at our grandmother's old house there. It's not a terrible neighborhood, but it's not far away from worse. So many sirens at all hours, people speeding... I can still see signs of why Granny liked it there, but they're fading rapidly.

Plus, their 'urban planning' seems to be gentrification without a lot of logical street routing. Getting to Gencon was a bit of an adventure.
 
2013-12-30 03:48:13 AM
Still nowhere near the murder rate of Cabot Cove.
 
2013-12-30 03:54:26 AM

Pokey.Clyde: And Chicago comes in as "the second city" yet again.


I'm okay with this...

DrPainMD: Still nowhere near the murder rate of Cabot Cove.


And yet somehow Jessica Fletcher has escaped justice...
 
2013-12-30 04:05:45 AM

duke3522: All sorts of crazy crap going on in Indy


http://fox59.com/2013/12/30/car-crashes-into-3-men-fighting-in-stree t- one-in-critical/


Good thing that car broke up that street fight,they could've really hurt each other.
 
2013-12-30 04:13:56 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: Well, what did you think the Indianapolis 500 meant?


i1079.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-30 04:30:38 AM
>world class city
>Indianapolis
Lol... stay delusional, cornfolk
 
2013-12-30 04:45:43 AM
(Sigh) We used to be able to say "We're #1!" in DC, But those glory days are gone.

Bring back Marion Barry!
.
 
2013-12-30 04:56:18 AM

Paris1127: And yet somehow Jessica Fletcher has escaped justice...


Everywhere she goes, someone dies. You'd think people would stop inviting her or any of her 2000+ nieces and nephews to social gatherings
 
2013-12-30 05:24:58 AM
And which of our "world class" cities have teams in the NFL playoffs: New York, Chicago, LA, DC, Pittsburg, Dallas, Huston, Miami?
 
2013-12-30 05:32:24 AM

jpadc: And which of our "world class" cities have teams in the NFL playoffs: New York, Chicago, LA, DC, Pittsburg, Dallas, Huston, Miami?


Well, hell, I guess you can spend your short life basking in the accomplishments of others.  That makes it alright then.
 
2013-12-30 05:33:16 AM
I dunno. The hair is standing up on the back of my neck. I'm pretty sure this is another Slap-Happy-Obammy false flag operation meant to distract us from Rahm Israel Emanuel 's failures in Chi-Town. Not to mention concurrently distracting the people from the Obammyscare Death Panels who will be forcing mothers of white Christian babies to have abortions.
 
2013-12-30 05:41:28 AM
I think I remember being in Indianapolis one time a few years back when some sort of event was going on, and there ended up being a shooting near the hotel we stayed at, that had train cars for hotel rooms. At least, I think it was Indianapolis. I remember accidentally scaring my cousin because I called over to their room asking if they were watching the news and noticed that a shooting had occurred nearby, and my cousin got scared. Oops.

/I don't make good decisions
 
2013-12-30 05:45:32 AM

Pichu0102: I think I remember being in Indianapolis one time a few years back when some sort of event was going on, and there ended up being a shooting near the hotel we stayed at, that had train cars for hotel rooms. At least, I think it was Indianapolis. I remember accidentally scaring my cousin because I called over to their room asking if they were watching the news and noticed that a shooting had occurred nearby, and my cousin got scared. Oops.

/I don't make good decisions


You were at the Crowne Plaza in what was the old Union Station. That's a pretty nice hotel.
 
2013-12-30 05:57:08 AM

redmid17: Pichu0102: I think I remember being in Indianapolis one time a few years back when some sort of event was going on, and there ended up being a shooting near the hotel we stayed at, that had train cars for hotel rooms. At least, I think it was Indianapolis. I remember accidentally scaring my cousin because I called over to their room asking if they were watching the news and noticed that a shooting had occurred nearby, and my cousin got scared. Oops.

/I don't make good decisions

You were at the Crowne Plaza in what was the old Union Station. That's a pretty nice hotel.


My family likes going to hotels they find deals on. We were going to go out and walk around town, but it started raining when we tried. Later on after we tried and were already back at the hotel is when I heard about the shooting.

Trying to remember when it was though. There was some big event or convention, and it had occasional rain. Can't remember when though.
 
2013-12-30 06:05:05 AM

Pichu0102: redmid17: Pichu0102: I think I remember being in Indianapolis one time a few years back when some sort of event was going on, and there ended up being a shooting near the hotel we stayed at, that had train cars for hotel rooms. At least, I think it was Indianapolis. I remember accidentally scaring my cousin because I called over to their room asking if they were watching the news and noticed that a shooting had occurred nearby, and my cousin got scared. Oops.

/I don't make good decisions

You were at the Crowne Plaza in what was the old Union Station. That's a pretty nice hotel.

My family likes going to hotels they find deals on. We were going to go out and walk around town, but it started raining when we tried. Later on after we tried and were already back at the hotel is when I heard about the shooting.

Trying to remember when it was though. There was some big event or convention, and it had occasional rain. Can't remember when though.


If someone got shot, it was probably the Black Expo and I mean that in the most race neutral way. Black Expo always has a certain amount of violence associated with it, even with all the cops Indy brings in. I was staying at the Crowne Plaza during it one year. The cops almost didn't let our taxi near the hotel (streets blocked off) because apparently three drunk white guys in a taxi resemble 2 blacks who escaped the area on foot.
 
2013-12-30 06:30:20 AM
I used to travel a lot for work and spent some time in Indy. Time I will never get back. Place seems to be quite the the asshole magnet.
 
2013-12-30 06:43:01 AM

careet: >world class city
>Indianapolis
Lol... stay delusional, cornfolk



Well, it's Certainly not Los Angeles.  LA smells like stale urine.
Stay delusional, rioting, piss-stinking, bankrupt folk.
 
2013-12-30 07:01:20 AM
Rochester is very competitive when it comes to homicide rates. We'll be back on top in no-time.
It's not like we have anything better to do.
 
2013-12-30 07:03:17 AM

Silverlock: I used to travel a lot for work and spent some time in Indy. Time I will never get back. Place seems to be quite the the asshole magnet.


How did you get away, then?
 
2013-12-30 07:04:23 AM
ladyfortuna: Getting to Gencon was a bit of an adventure.

With the slightest bit of sense, Indy is not hard to navigate.  That Gencon crowd...that could be your problem.
 
2013-12-30 07:15:03 AM

skinink: I think urban planning and more police don't address the issues that are making people resort to violence.


Prison is an upgrade?
 
2013-12-30 07:16:05 AM
Dirt-napolis?
 
2013-12-30 07:28:45 AM
Great. Another thing Indy has stolen from Baltimore.
 
2013-12-30 07:29:03 AM
Kill four times as many people, end up in second place.
Gotta love statistics.
 
2013-12-30 07:32:35 AM
It seems like suddenly every other morning there is talk about another murder on the morning news.
 
2013-12-30 07:33:41 AM
Indy just keeps sprawling out so you get neighborhoods left to rot as a everything moves ten miles further down the road. They have had some success revitalizing Downtown and a couple neighborhoods, but the area inside the beltloop is full of decaying areas whose glory days ended decades ago.

I am so glad to be out of that city.
 
2013-12-30 07:36:06 AM
124 murders this year? YAAAWWWWNNNN. Call me when you at least get to 200.

Love,

Baltimore

/231 murders in 2013 and still two days to go!
//17 murders in past 30 days...
 
2013-12-30 07:39:46 AM
"Murder capital of th..."

Finish the thought, subby. Capital of what?

17 murders per 100,000. That's 1/3rd the rate of Detroit, 1/2 the rate of St. Louis. Lower than Cincinnati, lower than Cleveland.

Murder capital of th...at 200 mile segment of I-65? Oops, Gary is sitting in there at damned near 40.


 

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Great. Another thing Indy has stolen from Baltimore.


Breath easy. B'more has 231 murders so far in 2013, which will land at about 35 per 100,000 residents.
 
2013-12-30 07:41:17 AM

brokenslide: 124 murders this year? YAAAWWWWNNNN. Call me when you at least get to 200.

Love,

Baltimore

/231 murders in 2013 and still two days to go!
//17 murders in past 30 days...


Amateurs.

Love,

Detroit (300 and counting)
 
2013-12-30 07:51:25 AM
I'm staying at a hotel in downtown indy, so i'm getting a kick.....

When we checkd in,the clerk made sure to tell us:

1) Get the parking pass on the mirror NOW, because the tow trucks are really quick.
2) don't even leave anything in the trunk of the car, because the game is letting out soon.
 
2013-12-30 08:05:28 AM
fta -  "However, a majority of these incidents involved both victims and suspects who were engaged in unlawful behavior which precipitated the murder." 

This.  99% of it is drug dealers and gangbanger wannabees.
 
2013-12-30 08:09:09 AM
Hmm.. "Police say there have been another 16 justifiable homicides on top of that."  How do they know the homicides were justifiable?
 
2013-12-30 08:11:07 AM

ARNOLD.HART: Hmm.. "Police say there have been another 16 justifiable homicides on top of that."  How do they know the homicides were justifiable?


The jukebox played a sad song and made them cry.
 
2013-12-30 08:12:42 AM
I bet I could draw 2 or 3 relatively small circles on a map of Indy, and 90% of those murders would be confined to those areas. Overall, Indy is a very safe place. But there are a couple of "hot zones" (as the cops call them) where shootings are frighteningly common.
 
2013-12-30 08:14:24 AM

ARNOLD.HART: Hmm.. "Police say there have been another 16 justifiable homicides on top of that."  How do they know the homicides were justifiable?


The cops did em?

/Or proper self defense shootings.
/Probably counting the cases that were obvious and already closed.
 
2013-12-30 08:18:20 AM

AngryDragon: brokenslide: 124 murders this year? YAAAWWWWNNNN. Call me when you at least get to 200.

Love,

Baltimore

/231 murders in 2013 and still two days to go!
//17 murders in past 30 days...

Amateurs.

Love,

Detroit (300 and counting)


And everyone likes to pick on Flint, we don't even break 100.
 
2013-12-30 08:21:57 AM

lack of warmth: AngryDragon: brokenslide: 124 murders this year? YAAAWWWWNNNN. Call me when you at least get to 200.

Love,

Baltimore

/231 murders in 2013 and still two days to go!
//17 murders in past 30 days...

Amateurs.

Love,

Detroit (300 and counting)

And everyone likes to pick on Flint, we don't even break 100.


Between the three Virgin Islands, we probably did almost as good(bad).
50 something last year, 30 more this year.
I'm pretty sure Puerto Rico will pickup any slack we've left.

/But the cops are on it, they've raised the fees on our mandatory firearms licenses.
/and they now close the office on fridays.  Take that, crime!
 
2013-12-30 08:22:15 AM

DoctorCal: "Murder capital of th..."

Finish the thought, subby. Capital of what?

17 murders per 100,000. That's 1/3rd the rate of Detroit, 1/2 the rate of St. Louis. Lower than Cincinnati, lower than Cleveland.

Murder capital of th...at 200 mile segment of I-65? Oops, Gary is sitting in there at damned near 40.


 Drunken_Irish_Joker: Great. Another thing Indy has stolen from Baltimore.

Breath easy. B'more has 231 murders so far in 2013, which will land at about 35 per 100,000 residents.


Sarcasm, I has it. But unlike most of the basement dwellers here, I experienced living in the city- and not the pretty gentrified suburban-white-kid fresh from college neighborhoods. I lived in a 3 block oasis in the middle of the west side that changed rapidly for the worse.

In September I moved from the hellhole that is West Baltimore several miles west into Catonsville with the Boss. She would not come to my place in the city, nor did I want her traveling there by herself due to the drug trade related gang warfare that surrounded my 3 block long oasis in the craziness.

What accelerated the decision for me to pack up and leave? The drug trade moved into my hood, specifically my block. Shootings, break ins, muggings. There was a shoot out in the otherwise quiet park a block from my house where a toddler was shot in the face! During the day!

I took to carrying a firearm on the daily because if the animals were packing, I'd be evening the odds a little. Considering I grew up hunting and shooting, my proficiency with a firearm and ability to hit a target made my chances slightly better. Besides, better to be judged by 12. Screw the lack of license- my .40 was purchased legally at least.

The police are/were powerless to affect it- my block was a no-man's land at the intersection of three districts and nobody could lay claim except the dealers and crackheads. And the cops are spread so thin they can't do anything but respond, and even that is subjective. (Southern District oversaw my block from 9 miles away on the other side of the harbor, when SW district HQ is 3 miles due west).

Over the course of a year, I went from riding a bike everywhere through Baltimore to being fearful to leave my house. That's not an exaggeration. Hell, when I moved out the "locals" tried to steal my crap out of the trailer I used. An enclosed trailer!!!

I don't claim a false sense of security in the burbs. My truck has been broken into here, too. But at least I don't have gang bangers selling their drugs standing on my corner here. And I don't have to carry anymore walking from my truck to my front door. That is well worth the increase in rent and peace of mind.

/tl:dr footnotes: why the fark did I live in the city again?
 
2013-12-30 08:24:06 AM
Clearly, Mike Pence, Indiana governor and hate-filled ideologue who bears a creepy resemblance to Jonny Quest character Race Bannon, can't waste time working on any planned legislation in the state until he solves every murder in his state, just like how Cons are convinced President Obama has to solve every Chicago murder before he implements anything. (Great premise for a detective show, networks!)
 
2013-12-30 08:24:15 AM

skinink: "Joe Wynns, a former park director for the city, is a member of that church. He says in addition to better urban planning, the city needs more police walking neighborhoods."

I think urban planning and more police don't address the issues that are making people resort to violence.


Not more police but more police "walking the neighborhood".  I think he means getting police out of their cars and walking a beat, getting to know their neighborhoods, instead of just driving by.  Makes a big difference.
 
2013-12-30 08:27:14 AM
The first of the weekend's victims, 18-year-old Markeewann Ward

Markeewann??? Add another made up name to the list.

You give a kid a name like that you are asking for bad things to happen to him.
 
2013-12-30 08:28:22 AM
FTA: "You can't grow to be this big, world class city and don't grow your public safety to keep up with it," Wynns said.

Whoa, there buddy.  I like Indianapolis as much as the next guy, but you need more than auto racing to be a world-class city.
 
2013-12-30 08:30:00 AM

DrPainMD: Still nowhere near the murder rate of Cabot Cove.


Yeah, but that was all the work of one serial killer, masquerading as a mystery writer.
 
2013-12-30 08:34:48 AM

duke3522: All sorts of crazy crap going on in Indy


http://fox59.com/2013/12/30/car-crashes-into-3-men-fighting-in-stree t- one-in-critical/


I have an alibi GB
 
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