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(Daily Mail)   London is planning on building a $362 million SkyCycle, a 135-mile network of roads 3 stories high built above suburban railways. What are the odds this will not end well?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 89
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2013-12-29 02:05:50 PM
What a multi-use trail might look like.
3.bp.blogspot.com
/Manayunk bridge which is becoming part of the multi-use trail system in this area
 
2013-12-29 02:23:36 PM
Awesome. Bet it never happens.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-12-29 02:48:24 PM
It won't draw any cyclists unless they install a bunch of red lights and stop signs for them to run.
 
2013-12-29 04:14:58 PM
Someone figured out how to make concept drawings of ideas that are never going to happen! Hooray! Notify the presses!
 
2013-12-29 04:43:56 PM
i1214.photobucket.com

Q&D
 
2013-12-29 05:02:03 PM
www.netmeister.org
 
2013-12-29 05:05:06 PM
It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.
 
2013-12-29 05:30:52 PM
£220 millionto build first four-mile stretch 

lol what?
 
2013-12-29 05:30:59 PM
$362 mBillion SkyCycle, a 135-mile network of roads 3 stories high

FTFW
 
2013-12-29 05:31:04 PM

jbc: It won't draw any cyclists unless they install a bunch of red lights and stop signs for them to run.


And one-way arrows, so they can go the wrong way.
 
2013-12-29 05:32:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.


Public transportation is for the poor, and all dirty and smelly, and full of people who don't like being called poor and smelly. No sir, let's have a £600m (after budget overruns) skylane, thanks.
 
2013-12-29 05:32:30 PM
Still not as cool as the Tokyo expressways.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-29 05:34:28 PM

BunkyBrewman: What a multi-use trail might look like.
/Manayunk bridge which is becoming part of the multi-use trail system in this area


One of the more bizarre things in rail transport, anywhere.  The Reading RR built a line out to Norristown, PA.  The PRR built a line that, for a good portion, is darn near parallel and a few feet away, out to the same spot.  The PRR built this bridge.  Years back, when it all became SEPTA, the bridge was in bad shape.  Someone decided that the  best option was to completly fix/rehabilitate the bridge, then close the line (since it was redundant), cutting it back to Cynwyd.  This created a 1 mile stub off the Harrisburg line, and left a bridge in great condition, over a river.

Amazingly, there are rail 'advocates' who think SEPTA should rebuild the now abandoned PRR routing to Norristown, thus giving that region two rail lines that are literally right next to each other.
 
2013-12-29 05:38:17 PM

Slaxl: TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.

Public transportation is for the poor, and all dirty and smelly, and full of people who don't like being called poor and smelly. No sir, let's have a £600m (after budget overruns) skylane, thanks.


Have you seen the floors on the London Underground trains? They're made of WOOD! It's like being in the stone age.
 
2013-12-29 05:39:11 PM
That won't happen. The hardcore cyclists prefer to be seen in all their smug glory using the same roads as people using cars. To segregate cyclists elsewhere won't allow the douchebags the fun of running stop signs, red lights, and going 20 mph (if that) with a line of 40 cars behind them. They like being given the option of rubbing traffic law in everyone's face.
 
2013-12-29 05:40:51 PM
Yeah its more of a Shelbyville idea.
 
2013-12-29 05:42:33 PM

Slaxl: TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.

Public transportation is for the poor, and all dirty and smelly, and full of people who don't like being called poor and smelly. No sir, let's have a £600m (after budget overruns) skylane, thanks.


Public transport has fewer stop locations and you have to walk from the terminal to your final destination. But you don't have to walk while on the train...and it is heated...and air conditioned...you are right. Why the hell wouldnt you take public transit?
 
2013-12-29 05:43:22 PM

Slaxl: TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.

Public transportation is for the poor, and all dirty and smelly, and full of people who don't like being called poor and smelly. No sir, let's have a £600m (after budget overruns) skylane, thanks.


Depends.

Basically:

Door #1: Mass transit is slower than car*.  Mass Transit is for poor smelly people who can't afford cars.
Door #2: Mass transit is faster than car.  Mass Transit is the main way of getting around unless you need a trunk for some reason.

* And all sorts of other things like parking, headway, reliability, area within reasonable walking distance of mass transit stations, etc

/And for an interesting case of both of these, see Silicon Valley.  The train is for rich people because it goes fast, while the bus is for poor people, because it takes 45 minutes to match a 12 minute train ride (which is a 30 minute drive (but goes door-to-door, so you don't have a 10 minute walk on each end)).
 
2013-12-29 05:43:51 PM
Good luck keeping old fart walkers lined up 4 wide on these things.
 
2013-12-29 05:44:58 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.


Can you take your bike on transit?  Somewhere to stack bikes, or maybe one car that has no seats and just lets you stand next to your bike?

There are people who would like to go to the other side of town and then use a bike to go beyond where the last train stop is, for them if they can take their bikes on the train it'd be a good incentive to use the train.  Buses by me have bike racks on the front now, similar idea.


fusillade762: Have you seen the floors on the London Underground trains? They're made of WOOD! It's like being in the stone age.


Buses I rode in the 80's (in Japan) had wooden floors.
 
2013-12-29 05:45:18 PM
www.comedy.co.uk

Allow me to consult the Treasury.

/obscure?
 
2013-12-29 05:45:32 PM
So, is it going to further destroy neighborhoods already under threat of division by wider roads and highways?
 
2013-12-29 05:45:59 PM
didnt batmans dad do that lol
 
2013-12-29 05:48:45 PM
We couldn't find the highway so we had to take this thing called the M4.
 
2013-12-29 05:50:09 PM

itazurakko: TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.

Can you take your bike on transit?  Somewhere to stack bikes, or maybe one car that has no seats and just lets you stand next to your bike?

There are people who would like to go to the other side of town and then use a bike to go beyond where the last train stop is, for them if they can take their bikes on the train it'd be a good incentive to use the train.  Buses by me have bike racks on the front now, similar idea.


I'm not sure, I spent a semester in London but never had a bike.  The public transportation options inside the city were great though, I absolutely loved it.  The UK also has a very robust light rail network, making it easy to get out of the city without owning a car.

Where I live now has no worthwhile public transportation, so a car is a must, but I'd love to live somewhere that had a great subway system again.  It's the best option in the world if you like nightlife - you can go out and have a good time and never have to worry about getting a DUI, having a DD, or going back to fetch your car in the morning if you have to take a cab home.
 
2013-12-29 05:50:40 PM
Kinda partial to the sky waterslide concept myself.
 
2013-12-29 05:54:15 PM
No SkyCycle for me, thanks.  I'm put all of my 2013 imaginary transport eggs in the Hyperloop basket.
 
2013-12-29 05:54:19 PM
Weatherkiss
That won't happen. The hardcore cyclists prefer to be seen in all their smug glory using the same roads as people using cars. To segregate cyclists elsewhere won't allow the douchebags the fun of running stop signs, red lights, and going 20 mph (if that) with a line of 40 cars behind them. They like being given the option of rubbing traffic law in everyone's face.

Don't assume everyone is like this. Why I am from it is usually at least three people riding together usually wearing silks.
 
2013-12-29 05:54:40 PM

goshes: didnt batmans dad do that lol


He built a tram for the poors not douche-paths.
 
2013-12-29 05:54:54 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It's a neat idea, but since it looks like it would mirror the public transportation network, why not just take the public transportation?  If would be one thing if it made getting around London faster/easier without a car, but this looks more like a vanity project for those would simply like to bike.  London already has one of the world's best public transportation networks, there's little need to own a car inside of the city.


I ride on roads which mirror the public transport network here.  If I take the subway, my commute is 30-55 minutes each way, depending on time of day.  Most of the long commute is simply waiting for the train to come.

If I bike?  18-22 minutes, no matter the time of day.  And that's not me pushing myself; when I do and there's no other traffic, I can do it in 15 minutes safely.
 
2013-12-29 05:56:23 PM
not. you missed the word 'not' from your headline. we are not planning to build this stupid white elephant. we are however planning to slap anyone who suggests it. with white elephant dicks

/lahndanah
 
2013-12-29 05:56:55 PM
That on-ramp looks steep.

/think of the poor hipsters with fixed-gear bikes.
 
2013-12-29 05:58:48 PM

netgamer7k: That on-ramp looks steep.

/think of the poor hipsters with fixed-gear bikes.


With the hub motor attached.
 
2013-12-29 05:59:26 PM
Pfffft!

When I was a kid in Denver I built a fort that was one mile above sea level....
 
2013-12-29 06:03:36 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-29 06:04:46 PM
Here on the news last night, there was a story about someone who used a guy wire used on phone poles, they strung it across the paved bike trail, and someone got clotheslined by it. Not cool.
 
2013-12-29 06:06:42 PM
Yeah its more of a Shelbyville idea.

Yeah...

/you think perhaps they'll have bikes to lend?
//not a chance, my Spandex friend
 
2013-12-29 06:07:42 PM
Neat idea. Of course we'd have to shuffle some things around in the roads budget to make it happen. Let me just run it past my transportation advi--

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AHHHHH SHIAT NO PROJECT CANCELLED ABORT ABORT ABORT
 
2013-12-29 06:08:12 PM
I cycle in London on a folding Dahon bike I bring into town on the train.These cycle highways are a suggestion not a plan.The price is astronomical.The price is for a short stretch and not the entire network.Something needs to be done to help London cyclists but this is not it.
 
2013-12-29 06:11:43 PM
That looks awesome. Might even be enough to get me to bike, if it were in the city I live in.  And the price point isn't really that bad, spread out over a distance.  A bike bridge has a lot less weight to bear than a car or train.  Although, I suspect it will cost a lot more than that in the end.
 
2013-12-29 06:13:23 PM

Pert: I cycle in London on a folding Dahon bike I bring into town on the train.These cycle highways are a suggestion not a plan.The price is astronomical.The price is for a short stretch and not the entire network.Something needs to be done to help London cyclists but this is not it.


Bingo!  But no one EVER reads TFA, especially not in a bike thread.
 
2013-12-29 06:14:24 PM

Harlow_B_Ashur: [img.fark.net image 721x480]


Where is that?
 
2013-12-29 06:16:00 PM

netgamer7k: That on-ramp looks steep.

/think of the poor hipsters with fixed-gear bikes.


I don't like the ramps, but not because of how any of the cyclists feel about it.  I was thinking of how much more real estate would be taken up by ramps compared to elevator towers.  I get the elevators would be less green, but in an island with less land to work with, real estate may be more valuable.  Also, if they are going to have cyclists riding during the winter, the ramps would kill a few and well, I guess that would be a pro for the ramps.  That is a tough call, con for ramps: take up more land; pro for ramps: may kill a few cyclists.
 
2013-12-29 06:21:40 PM

PsychoPhil: BunkyBrewman: What a multi-use trail might look like.
/Manayunk bridge which is becoming part of the multi-use trail system in this area

One of the more bizarre things in rail transport, anywhere.  The Reading RR built a line out to Norristown, PA.  The PRR built a line that, for a good portion, is darn near parallel and a few feet away, out to the same spot.  The PRR built this bridge.  Years back, when it all became SEPTA, the bridge was in bad shape.  Someone decided that the  best option was to completly fix/rehabilitate the bridge, then close the line (since it was redundant), cutting it back to Cynwyd.  This created a 1 mile stub off the Harrisburg line, and left a bridge in great condition, over a river.


The reason for the two parallel lines is pure American stupidity, what you get when you let the "free market" decide: two competing rail lines were trying to get to the same place, so they ended up with redundant parallel tracks.

SEPTA was legally forced to repair the bridge after decades of complete neglect due to legal action by people in Manayunk, who got tired of having their cars hit with chunks of concrete from the bridge.  The commercial interests along Main St raised a bunch of money to help pay for the project.
 
2013-12-29 06:25:30 PM
Tokyo

Night/Day
 
2013-12-29 06:28:15 PM

lack of warmth: the ramps would kill a few and well


We're talking London here; it really doesn't get that cold.  They get less snow than Washington, DC.

/know how I know you didn't read FTA?
//not every place has the same sort of climate of where you live.
 
2013-12-29 06:31:06 PM
I wouldnt mind one of these on the Dulles Toll Road.  Every damn day the traffic backs up because the sun is in peoples faces and people dont clean their windshields.  People start tapping the brakes and the
traffic backs up as if there is a horrendous accident.

A lightweight bridge would block all that sun.
 
2013-12-29 06:34:54 PM
Not well, seeing as they have also constructed the Black Marker in the background:

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-12-29 06:35:18 PM

germ78: Still not as cool as the Tokyo expressways.


Which came first.
Highway or building?
 
2013-12-29 06:35:29 PM

LewDux: Tokyo

Night/Day


Just like Detroit.
 
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