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2013-12-29 06:21:14 PM  
5 votes:
I'm not your buddy, guy!


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2013-12-29 05:40:51 PM  
5 votes:
What's involved in renouncing Canadian citizenship, anyway? I hope he gets paddled by a Mountie.
2013-12-29 04:01:37 PM  
5 votes:
Oddly enough I've hired lawyers to send Ted back to Canada. Or Cuba. Or Columbia. I'm not really picky at this point
2013-12-29 05:49:57 PM  
4 votes:

rnld: Mad_Radhu: At the time Obama was born there was some weirdly written law in place where the US parent had to have been physically living in the US for 5 years after the age of 14, so with his mother being 18 it was impossible for her to have met the requirement even if she never set foot outside the US. Don't know why they had the law written this stupidly, but they did.

A little research on your part is in order.



Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)
It's only for births abroad.  Obama's birth in Hawaii makes it a moot point for him, but it's an actual problem for Cruz - he doesn't dispute he was born in Canada, so it was abroad, and he doesn't dispute that his father was non-US.  So it all hinges on his mother's documented US residency for a valid duration at the time he was born.
Extra extra fun - Canada won't just take his mom's word for it, because they won't let him drop Canadian citizenship unless he has documented citizenship somewhere else, i.e. they won't let him make himself "stateless."  So presumably these lawyers are trying to find records of her residency 45-50 years back.
Triple extra fun - if Cruz & mom can't prove the above, then he's not a natural-born US citizen. Also, since he was never naturalized as an immigrant-turned-citizen, then he's working as a Senator as an illegal immigrant.
2013-12-29 05:02:32 PM  
4 votes:
Canada's response:

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2013-12-29 04:16:01 PM  
3 votes:
Canada - 1
U.S.A - 0
2013-12-29 04:15:38 PM  
3 votes:
I am certain Canadians appreciate this gesture.
2013-12-29 08:15:03 PM  
2 votes:
Ted Cruz says he's hired lawyers to renounce Canadian citizenship


l3.yimg.com
2013-12-29 07:03:43 PM  
2 votes:

Phil McKraken: What's involved in renouncing Canadian citizenship, anyway? I hope he gets paddled by a Mountie.


It's blood in, blood out.

2013-12-29 04:36:00 PM  
2 votes:
To me, it looks like Eduardo is putting things in place for a presidential run in 2016. I do hope he runs and gets the nomination. If that happens, there's little chance he'd choose anyone other than another Teabagger as a running mate. A pair of TeaTard candidates on a national ticket would likely lead to an easy Democratic win. Plus, it would shine a bright, impossible-to-ignore spotlight on the GOP's moral bankruptcy as Señor Cruz tries to peddle his empty(-headed) policy ideas.

Plus the comedy would be non-stop. Not to mention the delicious flow of Republican Tears in November 2016 - Awesome.
2013-12-29 04:33:53 PM  
2 votes:
This is not necessary. Canada's already disowned him. We etched him onto our grand list of Exiled Undesirables some time ago, right between Justin Bieber and Nickleback.
2013-12-29 04:25:49 PM  
2 votes:
All he needs to say is "Hockey sucks and Molson is sh*tter than Coors Light"
2013-12-29 04:24:26 PM  
2 votes:
I'm gonna need to see his long-form birth certificate first.
2013-12-29 09:35:11 PM  
1 votes:

ox45tallboy: TV's Vinnie: Ted Cruz says he's hired lawyers to renounce Canadian citizenship

[l3.yimg.com image 600x410]

Canadian vuvuzelas? WTF?


We call them Bonguzelas up here.

Multicultural *and* Multifunctional!
2013-12-29 09:15:23 PM  
1 votes:

Rat: Cool!  I like the guy.  My dad has duel citizenship, born in Winnipeg.  Fought in two wars for the US.  Worked until age 67 for the US Inspector Generals office.  Full of honesty, integrity, and a republican.

™ what have you guys done except shiat on men like my father today?


You willingly compared your father to Ted Cruz? Why do you hate your father?
2013-12-29 09:04:55 PM  
1 votes:

spongeboob: Shouldn't the Keystone Ninjas come from my home state of PA?


Dude, they're ninjas. They come from where you least expect them, and you'll never know it until you're dead.
2013-12-29 07:25:15 PM  
1 votes:
Hey wait who was the last Republican to renounce foreign citizenship?


/ha-ha
2013-12-29 07:07:04 PM  
1 votes:

spongeboob: Born in Alberta 43 years ago last Sunday, Sen. Ted Cruz was unaware of his dual nationality until The Dallas Morning News explored the issue in August.....His mother, he said, had understood that it would have taken an affirmative act to claim Canadian citizenship, and that's what she'd told him as a child.

Didn't Cruz go to Harvard law school, and was 'one of the smartest students. according to Alan Dershowitz never took a few minutes to look up the law about his birth but instead listened to his mommy, or is now throwing mommy under the bus.
So is he lazy or disingenuous, yeah I know


And I'm sure this experience will cause him to be sympathetic to any Mexican immigrant who was told they were a citizen by their parents and weren't aware of their actual immigration status. Right?
2013-12-29 07:03:45 PM  
1 votes:

El Pachuco: rnld: Mad_Radhu: At the time Obama was born there was some weirdly written law in place where the US parent had to have been physically living in the US for 5 years after the age of 14, so with his mother being 18 it was impossible for her to have met the requirement even if she never set foot outside the US. Don't know why they had the law written this stupidly, but they did.

A little research on your part is in order.


Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)
It's only for births abroad.  Obama's birth in Hawaii makes it a moot point for him, but it's an actual problem for Cruz - he doesn't dispute he was born in Canada, so it was abroad, and he doesn't dispute that his father was non-US.  So it all hinges on his mother's documented US residency for a valid duration at the time he was born.
Extra extra fun - Canada won't just take his mom's word for it, because they won't let him drop Canadian citizenship unless he has documented citizenship somewhere else, i.e. they won't let him make himself "stateless."  So presumably these lawyers are trying to find records of her residency 45-50 years back.
Triple extra fun - if Cruz & mom can't prove the above, then he's not a natural-born US citizen. Also, since he was never naturalized as an immigrant-turned ...


As I've stated in other Ted Cruz threads, the Tea Party could not have found a more ironic "star." Thanks to his role in the shutdown/debt ceiling debacle, Ted Cruz is now a freshmen Senator whose actions threatened the stability of the United States and her allies while managing to accomplish nothing. According to his colleagues, he's pretty snobbish about being an Ivy Leaguer, as well. Add to this his citizenship being in some sort of strange limbo, and Cruz has somehow managed to fit himself into the mold of a Foreign-Born, Elitist, Empty-Suit Destroyer of America. The whole situation is nuts.
2013-12-29 06:53:25 PM  
1 votes:

spongeboob: Ishkur: This is not necessary. Canada's already disowned him. We etched him onto our grand list of Exiled Undesirables some time ago, right between Justin Bieber and Nickleback.

have you guys ever given the US anyone who wasn't a douchebag?


Shatner?  Ok well he is kind of a jerk but I still can't hate the guy.
2013-12-29 06:24:21 PM  
1 votes:

Rat: Cool!  I like the guy.  My dad has duel citizenship, born in Winnipeg.  Fought in two wars for the US.  Worked until age 67 for the US Inspector Generals office.  Full of honesty, integrity, and a republican.

™ what have you guys done except shiat on men like my father today?


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2013-12-29 05:45:09 PM  
1 votes:
The process would go faster but he shut down the Canadian government too
2013-12-29 05:30:28 PM  
1 votes:

Rat: Cool!  I like the guy.  My dad has duel citizenship, born in Winnipeg.  Fought in two wars for the US.  Worked until age 67 for the US Inspector Generals office.  Full of honesty, integrity, and a republican.

™ what have you guys done except shiat on men like my father today?


Your father was *GASP* a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE?!? That automatically makes you a communist. Why do you hate America?
2013-12-29 05:25:15 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Vexed Thespian: FTFA    Under U.S. law, a child born with even one American parent is automatically entitled to citizenship, even if the birth takes place outside the country. Canada, like the United States, also confers automatic citizenship to anyone born on its soil, regardless of the parents' nationalities.

This is what I could never understand about the birther bullshiat.  His mother was american, who his father was and whether he actually was born in kenya was inconsequential by the fact that his mother was american. case closed.

/I know, this would only be relevant six years ago

At the time Obama was born there was some weirdly written law in place where the US parent had to have been physically living in the US for 5 years after the age of 14, so with his mother being 18 it was impossible for her to have met the requirement even if she never set foot outside the US. Don't know why they had the law written this stupidly, but they did.


I am so embarrassed I have gone this long without knowing that.  thankyou for clearing that up
2013-12-29 04:37:57 PM  
1 votes:

MustangFive: To me, it looks like Eduardo is putting things in place for a presidential run in 2016. I do hope he runs and gets the nomination. If that happens, there's little chance he'd choose anyone other than another Teabagger as a running mate. A pair of TeaTard candidates on a national ticket would likely lead to an easy Democratic win. Plus, it would shine a bright, impossible-to-ignore spotlight on the GOP's moral bankruptcy as Señor Cruz tries to peddle his empty(-headed) policy ideas.

Plus the comedy would be non-stop. Not to mention the delicious flow of Republican Tears in November 2016 - Awesome.


The comedy of Gold GOLD Jerry of this?  Every Cruz supporter I know in real life is also a damn birther.  Cruz fans here in Texas are already arguing over this.  Some have come up with a compromise:  "It's ok to break the law because they let Obama get away with it."
2013-12-29 04:35:35 PM  
1 votes:
As a Canadian, I'm having trouble seeing the downside here.

Cheers.
2013-12-29 04:21:36 PM  
1 votes:
No take backsies!
2013-12-29 04:16:53 PM  
1 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough I've hired lawyers to send Ted back to Canada. Or Cuba. Or Columbia. I'm not really picky at this point


Why would you do that to the poor Cubans? Or Colombians?
 
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