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(Talking Points Memo)   Ted Cruz: "I think it was absolutely a mistake for President Obama and Harry Reid to force a government shutdown." The balls on this guy   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 317
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2013-12-29 10:42:07 AM  
it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.
 
2013-12-29 10:43:38 AM  

FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.


it's exactly what his base believe happened
 
2013-12-29 10:47:54 AM  
At least the interviewer was actually incredulous and didn't just change the subject.
 
2013-12-29 10:55:04 AM  
And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.   I'm fully expecting my reproductive rights to go out the window when that happens.
 
2013-12-29 10:55:38 AM  

raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.


Based on what? I haven't seen that, at least not from Nate Silver.
 
2013-12-29 10:57:59 AM  

raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.   I'm fully expecting my reproductive rights to go out the window when that happens.


they'll run at least one or two teabaggers and lose what should be winnable seats, just like they did in '10 and '12.
 
2013-12-29 10:59:39 AM  

FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.


In his world of utter assholery, "Do what I say or we shut it down" means that if the other party doesn't do what he says, it's their fault the government got shut down.

It's like domestic abusers who yell "You made me do this!" as they're beating their spouses.
 
2013-12-29 11:06:13 AM  

Rincewind53: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

In his world of utter assholery, "Do what I say or we shut it down" means that if the other party doesn't do what he says, it's their fault the government got shut down.


Ted Cruz: Let me screw your wife or I'll smash you car window!
Man: No farking way! Are you crazy?
Ted Cruz: **smashes car window**
Man: You asshole!
Ted Cruz: Why did you smash your car window?
 
2013-12-29 11:07:32 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.

Based on what? I haven't seen that, at least not from Nate Silver.



Oh, you haven't heard?!  Since Obama's approval numbers are down that means the Republicans are gaining in popularity.   I know it's 'spin' but it still makes me sick that Americans would forget what the R's have done.
 
2013-12-29 11:13:17 AM  
What's Rafael up to now?  That guy is such a scamp.
 
2013-12-29 11:21:44 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.

Based on what? I haven't seen that, at least not from Nate Silver.


Playing devil's advocate, Nate Silver hasn't said diddly about politics recently
 
2013-12-29 11:22:35 AM  

raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.   I'm fully expecting my reproductive rights to go out the window when that happens.


Hell, if that happens, my reproductive rights are in danger, too, and I'm a guy.
 
2013-12-29 11:31:31 AM  
His face always says "Punch me, I'm a douche." I can't imagine people who support his views not looking at his face and wanting to deck him.
 
2013-12-29 11:34:36 AM  

alaric3: His face always says "Punch me, I'm a douche." I can't imagine people who support his views not looking at his face and wanting to deck him.


Fixed that for my amusement.
 
2013-12-29 11:37:44 AM  
At this point, I'm convincing myself that this guy is just doing some Andy Kaufman-style, elaborate performance art for the purpose of making a 'Cruz control' joke at some point.  The alternative is just far too depressing.
 
2013-12-29 11:51:08 AM  

FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.


What's scarier to me is that he actually believes this. Seriously. He is that out of touch with reality.

Is it too late to give him back to Canada?
 
2013-12-29 11:59:49 AM  
Thanks, Obama
 
2013-12-29 12:11:59 PM  
We ought to raise the debt limit two months at a time just to remind people of what douchebags the GOTP is comprised of.
 
2013-12-29 12:13:48 PM  
We have always been at war with EastAsia.
 
2013-12-29 12:23:16 PM  
Is it Opposites Day again already?

/if ever there was an asshole that needed to be run over by a bus...
 
2013-12-29 12:42:04 PM  

MrBallou: raerae1980: And yet, supposedly Republicans will gain seats in the senate.   I'm fully expecting my reproductive rights to go out the window when that happens.

Hell, if that happens, my reproductive rights are in danger, too, and I'm a guy.


So true. People act as though birth control is an issue that only affects women.
 
2013-12-29 12:43:04 PM  
"Why did those Jews throw themselves into ovens? Hitler was just going to use them to bake some nice strudel." -Sen. Ted Cruz
 
2013-12-29 12:52:21 PM  

Man On A Mission: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

What's scarier to me is that he actually believes this. Seriously. He is that out of touch with reality.

Is it too late to give him back to Canada?


Let me speak on behalf of Canada:  F*ck yes, it's too late.  Besides, we're not the ones who broke him.  Texas did.
 
2013-12-29 12:57:17 PM  

libranoelrose: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

it's exactly what his base believe happened


Jason Jones interview with that Republucan strategist on TDS have convinced me of this.

How do you negotiate with a party where their core has essentially become throwing their own poop at everyone and the asking what that crazy smell is.

It reminds me of being the sober guy at the fraternity house during a massive party. I would spend the entire night being treated like the "crazy" one as I tried to convince people not to do things they would ultimately regret. Now it is at a national scale.
 
2013-12-29 12:57:20 PM  

unyon: Man On A Mission: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

What's scarier to me is that he actually believes this. Seriously. He is that out of touch with reality.

Is it too late to give him back to Canada?

Let me speak on behalf of Canada:  F*ck yes, it's too late.  Besides, we're not the ones who broke him.  Texas did.


C'mon, take him back, please? We'll throw Alaska in as part of the deal.
 
2013-12-29 01:05:08 PM  

b2theory: libranoelrose: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

it's exactly what his base believe happened

Jason Jones interview with that Republucan strategist on TDS have convinced me of this.

How do you negotiate with a party where their core has essentially become throwing their own poop at everyone and the asking what that crazy smell is.

It reminds me of being the sober guy at the fraternity house during a massive party. I would spend the entire night being treated like the "crazy" one as I tried to convince people not to do things they would ultimately regret. Now it is at a national scale.


The segment I mentioned:

http://m.comedycentral.com/tds_video.rbml?id=republican-hostage-negot i ation&alt=http%3a%2f%2fm.comedycentral.com%2ftds_video_index.rbml
 
2013-12-29 01:14:52 PM  

simplicimus: unyon: Man On A Mission: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

What's scarier to me is that he actually believes this. Seriously. He is that out of touch with reality.

Is it too late to give him back to Canada?

Let me speak on behalf of Canada:  F*ck yes, it's too late.  Besides, we're not the ones who broke him.  Texas did.

C'mon, take him back, please? We'll throw Alaska in as part of the deal.


It's a deal.  When he arrives, we're moving him to the new Alaska part of Canada.

We'll be renaming Alaska 'Tukisinngittung', which is a rough inuktitut translation of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.He'll fit right in.  Send him naked, there'll be a mandatory cold weather reintroduction for him.
 
2013-12-29 01:19:26 PM  
Ted Cruz says something stupid and people can't believe he actually said it. News at 11.
 
2013-12-29 01:32:27 PM  

unyon: simplicimus: unyon: Man On A Mission: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

What's scarier to me is that he actually believes this. Seriously. He is that out of touch with reality.

Is it too late to give him back to Canada?

Let me speak on behalf of Canada:  F*ck yes, it's too late.  Besides, we're not the ones who broke him.  Texas did.

C'mon, take him back, please? We'll throw Alaska in as part of the deal.

It's a deal.  When he arrives, we're moving him to the new Alaska part of Canada.

We'll be renaming Alaska 'Tukisinngittung', which is a rough inuktitut translation of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.He'll fit right in.  Send him naked, there'll be a mandatory cold weather reintroduction for him.


I warn you, Alaska is pretty socialist. Everybody gets an annual check from the state just for living there.
 
2013-12-29 01:36:16 PM  
 
2013-12-29 01:36:43 PM  
Every time Ted Cruz begins a sentence with, "I think," I know the rest of it must be in jest.
 
2013-12-29 01:41:34 PM  

Rincewind53: FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.

In his world of utter assholery, "Do what I say or we shut it down" means that if the other party doesn't do what he says, it's their fault the government got shut down.

It's like domestic abusers who yell "You made me do this!" as they're beating their spouses.


Exactly, if the Democrats just did everything he asked, he wouldn't have to beat them.

Really, why must they make him beat America?
 
2013-12-29 01:44:25 PM  
I think it was a mistake for Texas to elect a Canadian to the US Senate.
 
2013-12-29 01:53:13 PM  
Isn't this one of those "narcissistic" personality traits?
 
2013-12-29 01:54:56 PM  

cman: Isn't this one of those "narcissistic" personality traits?


Yeah, but that's kind of a prereq for being a politician.
 
2013-12-29 02:00:17 PM  
The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.
 
2013-12-29 02:05:02 PM  

SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.


Um, if the House wanted to change the law the House voted for, there are more direct and less damaging ways to do that.
 
2013-12-29 02:07:52 PM  

SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.


I enjoy various meats and cheeses, but not all of them go together.  For example, Tibetan Goat Cheese compliments the Mongolian Yak meat quite well, but does not taste as delicious when paired with minced Peruvian Nutria

/stop blaming it on the Democrats you silly goose
 
2013-12-29 02:09:29 PM  

SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.


Did Santa bring you an actual personality this year?
 
2013-12-29 02:10:59 PM  

FlashHarry: it's insane that he can actually say that with a straight face.


It's about par for the course. No conscience, no empathy, no awareness that his actions might have negative consequences. Its always someone else's fault. Sure, it's disgusting but...look at it this way, the voters of this country are looking at Cruz and are very much aware of just how bad he is for them.
 
2013-12-29 02:12:28 PM  

cman: Isn't this one of those "narcissistic" personality traits?


Yes.
 
2013-12-29 02:16:57 PM  

SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.


Look, you can make up whatever lies you want and then play them in your echo chamber as loud as ya like...but I gotta tell ya, tha GOP version of the shutdown just isn't going to fly out here in the real world. We all saw Cruz as a strutting, ignorant dick bag who arrogantly tried an illegal end run around the constitution then threw a world class temper tantrum when he was told STFU and stop being a jerk. That's just how it is, and you'll have to come to terms with that reality if you plan on ever winning elections ever again.
 
2013-12-29 02:23:51 PM  

simplicimus: SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.

Um, if the House wanted to change the law the House voted for, there are more direct and less damaging ways to do that.


They did try less damaging ways.  The House repeatedly tried to repeal Obamacare, but Democrats insisted that Obamacare must be forced on people, like it or not.  Obamacare.  The Shutdown.  It's all Democrats.
 
2013-12-29 02:25:55 PM  

SkinnyHead: simplicimus: SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.

Um, if the House wanted to change the law the House voted for, there are more direct and less damaging ways to do that.

They did try less damaging ways.  The House repeatedly tried to repeal Obamacare, but Democrats insisted that Obamacare must be forced on people, like it or not.  Obamacare.  The Shutdown.  It's all Democrats.


Right. So when democracy doesn't work in your favor, use extortion.
 
2013-12-29 02:29:38 PM  

SkinnyHead: simplicimus: SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.

Um, if the House wanted to change the law the House voted for, there are more direct and less damaging ways to do that.

They did try less damaging ways.  The House repeatedly tried to repeal Obamacare, but Democrats insisted that Obamacare must be forced on people, like it or not.  Obamacare.  The Shutdown.  It's all Democrats.


No, the GOP tried and failed. They made their case, lined up their speeches, even filed their lawsuits...and in every case, they did not convince anyone that the GOP view of the ACA was dangerous. After using the channels legally available to them and failing in every way it was possible to fail, the "law and order" always obey the rules republicans decided to throw out the rule book and do an illegal end run and shut down the federal government in order to get their way.

The voters are going to remember how the GOP acted. I suspect the end results will not be very good for the republicans.
 
2013-12-29 02:31:35 PM  

simplicimus: SkinnyHead: simplicimus: SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.

Um, if the House wanted to change the law the House voted for, there are more direct and less damaging ways to do that.

They did try less damaging ways.  The House repeatedly tried to repeal Obamacare, but Democrats insisted that Obamacare must be forced on people, like it or not.  Obamacare.  The Shutdown.  It's all Democrats.

Right. So when democracy doesn't work in your favor, use extortion.


Win at all costs, thats the republican mantra. But if the democrats try and pull that shiat, then whine like a baby and burn house down rather than admit defeat.
 
2013-12-29 02:32:47 PM  
Ted Cruz has to be the subject of a Randolph & Mortimer wager between the Kochs.

"Oh yeah? Well, I bet I can get a Canadian with Cuban forebears and a foreign-sounding name into the highest level of political power -- and the teabillies will thank me for the privilege!"
 
2013-12-29 02:33:21 PM  

cman: Isn't this one of those "narcissistic" personality traits?


Absolutely.
 
2013-12-29 02:35:47 PM  

Weaver95: SkinnyHead: The record speaks for itself.  The House voted to fund the government with an added provision that the people would get a one-year delay in the Obamacare train wreck.  Harry Reid & Senate Democrats refused.  That's why the government got shut down.  Democrats thought that forcing people into Obamacare right away was more important than funding the government.

Look, you can make up whatever lies you want and then play them in your echo chamber as loud as ya like...but I gotta tell ya, tha GOP version of the shutdown just isn't going to fly out here in the real world. We all saw Cruz as a strutting, ignorant dick bag who arrogantly tried an illegal end run around the constitution then threw a world class temper tantrum when he was told STFU and stop being a jerk. That's just how it is, and you'll have to come to terms with that reality if you plan on ever winning elections ever again.


Republicans voted to fund the government; democrats voted no.  They chose to shut down the government because they could not go along with a delay in Obamacare.  That's what they were fighting for.  Democrats got to ask themselves, was it worth it?  Was forcing Obamacare on people so important that it was worth a government shutdown to prevent a delay?  Voters will get a chance to answer that question at the next election.
 
2013-12-29 02:40:37 PM  

SkinnyHead: Republicans voted to fund the government; democrats voted no.  They chose to shut down the government because they could not go along with a delay in Obamacare.  That's what they were fighting for.  Democrats got to ask themselves, was it worth it?  Was forcing Obamacare on people so important that it was worth a government shutdown to prevent a delay?  Voters will get a chance to answer that question at the next election.


Fighting for a delay? What value does that have? And for the delay of a Republican initiative? That lines the pockets of insurance companies?
 
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