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(New Musical Express)   Seven years after leaving Island Records for Mercury, U2 are returning to Island, the label that helped make them the biggest, greatest band in the world   (nme.com) divider line 112
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2013-12-29 12:49:12 PM
yawn
 
2013-12-29 02:32:33 PM
Et tu?
 
2013-12-29 02:37:44 PM
Island and Mercury - still UMg
 
2013-12-29 02:43:08 PM
Just play "One"! We don't give a fark about Africa!
 
2013-12-29 02:46:36 PM
BFD. Has any 'huge' mega selling rock act ever recorded a "classic" album while in their 50's? Pretty sure no. Hell, there are probably very,very few who have even managed it in their 40's.
 
2013-12-29 02:48:58 PM
U2 is the Tom Brady of bands.

/over-rated
 
2013-12-29 02:50:55 PM

rjakobi: Just play "One"! We don't give a fark about Africa!


I was at a U 2 concert and he said 'Everytime I count to five,two children die in Africa'.
The guy behind me yells 'Well stop doing that!!!'
 
2013-12-29 02:51:51 PM
Why should I care what label a band records with?

Do fans have favorite labels?

Hey, Polygram is releasing 3 albums next month.  2 are for bands I never heard of and the 3rd is a band I hate, but I'm gonna buy them all because I really dig Polygram..
 
2013-12-29 02:56:20 PM

gfid: Why should I care what label a band records with?

Do fans have favorite labels?

Hey, Polygram is releasing 3 albums next month.  2 are for bands I never heard of and the 3rd is a band I hate, but I'm gonna buy them all because I really dig Polygram..


Of course fans have favorite labels. Granted, none of them are the mega corps, but still. I mean, Motown springs to mind fer farks sake.
 
2013-12-29 03:00:26 PM
I like every single thing I've heard from DapTone. Other than that, it's a crapshoot.
 
2013-12-29 03:00:40 PM

W.C.fields forever: rjakobi: Just play "One"! We don't give a fark about Africa!

I was at a U 2 concert and he said 'Everytime I count to five,two children die in Africa'.
The guy behind me yells 'Well stop doing that!!!'


That joke normally goes: he was clicking his finger, saying "every time I click my finger etc. "
 
2013-12-29 03:04:38 PM

Cormee: W.C.fields forever: rjakobi: Just play "One"! We don't give a fark about Africa!

I was at a U 2 concert and he said 'Everytime I count to five,two children die in Africa'.
The guy behind me yells 'Well stop doing that!!!'

That joke normally goes: he was clicking his finger, saying "every time I click my finger etc. "


That is better.
 
2013-12-29 03:05:08 PM

DesertCoyote: Island and Mercury - still UMg


RIght, but Island is likely screwing them on royalties and by going back to them they'll get a massive signing bonus which is actually money owed.

There's also the argument that big acts are best merchandised when their catalog is on a single label; it's certainly true with the Beatles, Elvis, and Sony really only keeps Columbia running to handle Bob Dylan, who is basically his own department.
 
2013-12-29 03:09:27 PM
Headline brought to you by Sean Hannity
 
2013-12-29 03:09:52 PM
every time U2's Bono claps his hands, another million morons buy his ugg music ugg and he stashes the money away in a tax free haven and tells the poor people to send money to Africa, as he doesn't feel like flying to his money to pull out a few bucks for starving people at this time.

/The little Prick is a shiat on a global scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Crap
Everybody is gathered in Zürich, where the institute's leader explains he produced the world's biggest crap in 1960 and was so proud, he raised it as a child. Over time, it grew up into Bono,
 
2013-12-29 03:10:49 PM
Nice bait, subby
 
2013-12-29 03:17:18 PM

sheep snorter: every time U2's Bono claps his hands, another million morons buy his ugg music ugg and he stashes the money away in a tax free haven and tells the poor people to send money to Africa, as he doesn't feel like flying to his money to pull out a few bucks for starving people at this time.



You know, for decades that "tax free haven" was Ireland, the country he grew up in, right?  Ireland didn't tax artists, specifically to create a tax haven and pull money into their economy.  U2 has a business entity pored tens of millions into the country, buying up a good chunk of downtown Dublin among other things.

Bono and the band and their manager only took their money overseas when the Irish government changed the tax code during the "Celtic Tiger" boom, when they felt they no longer needed to offer shelter to artists.

Question: do you feel the same way about the Rolling Stones, who have kept all their money "offshore" since 1972?
 
2013-12-29 03:20:14 PM

drewogatory: Motown springs to mind fer farks sake.


I like some artists that happen to be on Motown but I wouldn't say I like them BECAUSE they're on Motown.  I'm with gfid on this one
 
2013-12-29 03:22:05 PM

drewogatory: Of course fans have favorite labels. Granted, none of them are the mega corps, but still. I mean, Motown springs to mind fer farks sake.


This, except some of the mega corps do own some favorite labels.

Rhino Records, for example.
 
2013-12-29 03:27:24 PM

buntz: I like some artists that happen to be on Motown but I wouldn't say I like them BECAUSE they're on Motown.  I'm with gfid on this one


If you're really into certain types of music, you have favorite labels.

You don't necessarily like artists because they are on a specific label, but you do collect all the releases a label puts out.

Certain labels just release specific types of music and always release something worth listening to.
 
2013-12-29 03:30:03 PM

buntz: drewogatory: Motown springs to mind fer farks sake.

I like some artists that happen to be on Motown but I wouldn't say I like them BECAUSE they're on Motown.  I'm with gfid on this one


Motown is pretty solid until Barry Gordy moved the operation to LA in 1972 .  He sold out in 1988, but it was falling apart by then; anyone signed after the Jackson 5 to Motown is hit or miss; almost everything before is amazing.

Chess Records is one I would point to: if you love the Blues, anything on Chess is great; when the Rolling Stones got out of their original contract, they hired Leonard Chess to set up their label.  When asked why, someone said "Because Okeh [a famous Blues label of the 1920s] no longer exists."
 
2013-12-29 03:33:35 PM

Glitchwerks: buntz: I like some artists that happen to be on Motown but I wouldn't say I like them BECAUSE they're on Motown.  I'm with gfid on this one

If you're really into certain types of music, you have favorite labels.

You don't necessarily like artists because they are on a specific label, but you do collect all the releases a label puts out.

Certain labels just release specific types of music and always release something worth listening to.


WaxTrax
 
2013-12-29 03:37:15 PM

Glitchwerks: You don't necessarily like artists because they are on a specific label, but you do collect all the releases a label puts out.

Certain labels just release specific types of music and always release something worth listening to.


Rarer these days, but still true in certain niche genres where the labels are still privately-run.
 
2013-12-29 03:39:20 PM

gfid: Why should I care what label a band records with?

Do fans have favorite labels?

Hey, Polygram is releasing 3 albums next month.  2 are for bands I never heard of and the 3rd is a band I hate, but I'm gonna buy them all because I really dig Polygram..


Janet Jackson's music was better when she was recording for A&M instead of Virgin. But, by the time she switched labels, Herb Alpert no longer owned A&M. Atlantic under Ahmet Ertegun was the last label in which the founder still had some artistic control. Today, they're run by bean counters and "American Idol" producers.

/Stuck in the '90s
 
2013-12-29 03:41:05 PM
shiat.  I suppose this means they will be putting out more awful albums that will be overhyped for months and then overplayed everywhere you go.

I actually didn't mind them 20 years ago.  Now, I can't stand the sight of them, let alone hear their music.
 
2013-12-29 03:44:58 PM

Dwight_Yeast: DesertCoyote: Island and Mercury - still UMg

RIght, but Island is likely screwing them on royalties and by going back to them they'll get a massive signing bonus which is actually money owed.

There's also the argument that big acts are best merchandised when their catalog is on a single label; it's certainly true with the Beatles, Elvis, and Sony really only keeps Columbia running to handle Bob Dylan, who is basically his own department.


Parlophone was The Beatles' UK label, but UMG sold it (sans the license to the Beatles catalog) to WMG (thanks Guy Hands for killing EMI). In the U.S., Capitol is synonymous with the Beatles. When UMG re-releases their catalog again, which label will it be under in the UK?

Columbia the label can survive without Bob Dylan. Just like Epic without Michael Jackson (but barely).
 
2013-12-29 03:45:21 PM

Slow To Return: Glitchwerks: buntz: I like some artists that happen to be on Motown but I wouldn't say I like them BECAUSE they're on Motown.  I'm with gfid on this one

If you're really into certain types of music, you have favorite labels.

You don't necessarily like artists because they are on a specific label, but you do collect all the releases a label puts out.

Certain labels just release specific types of music and always release something worth listening to.

WaxTrax


Trojan for great early ska/reggae/two tone
 
2013-12-29 03:51:42 PM

DesertCoyote: Columbia the label can survive without Bob Dylan. Just like Epic without Michael Jackson Quincy Jones (but barely).

FTFY.

 
2013-12-29 03:55:08 PM
You can bet your ass U2 are bringing a prenuptial agreement with them, too.
 
2013-12-29 03:56:17 PM

DesertCoyote: Parlophone was The Beatles' UK label, but UMG sold it (sans the license to the Beatles catalog) to WMG (thanks Guy Hands for killing EMI). In the U.S., Capitol is synonymous with the Beatles. When UMG re-releases their catalog again, which label will it be under in the UK?

Columbia the label can survive without Bob Dylan. Just like Epic without Michael Jackson (but barely).


It's been ages since I've bought any Beatles product, so I'm not even sure what label they're on at this point.It may be the time to put everything under the Apple Corp banner and be done with it, as Apple has a full-fledged business office these days and the various Beatles' rights-owners are all on speaking terms.

Columbia also has Simon & Garfunkel, which seems to be an on-going money-maker for them, given the reissues.  I went through a bunch of 1960s-era Billboards recently, and it was shocking to see how big an act S&G were from 1965 to 1970.
 
2013-12-29 04:04:04 PM
Dwight_Yeast:

Columbia also has Simon & Garfunkel, which seems to be an on-going money-maker for them, given the reissues.  I went through a bunch of 1960s-era Billboards recently, and it was shocking to see how big an act S&G were from 1965 to 1970.

This. And Paul Simon just licensed his solo recordings (in which he owns the masters to) back to Columbia (after 30 years at Warner Bros.). Many Columbia artists from the Clive Davis era (Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon) own their masters instead of the label itself. It shows how well the artists' managers negotiated with Davis.
 
2013-12-29 04:07:36 PM

Farktastic: shiat.  I suppose this means they will be putting out more awful albums that will be overhyped for months and then overplayed everywhere you go.

I actually didn't mind them 20 years ago.  Now, I can't stand the sight of them, let alone hear their music.


I loved U2 back in their Achtung Baby/Zooropa/Pop days, but now they just put me to sleep.
 
2013-12-29 04:07:56 PM
I think Michael Jackson's kids own the Beatles rights.
 
2013-12-29 04:11:26 PM

Mad_Radhu: I loved U2 back in their Achtung Baby/Zooropa/Pop days, but now they just put me to sleep.


I was a huge fan up until All that you can't leave behind.  I went back and listened to Achtung Baby recently, and it sounds like a classic rock album to me now.  Zooropa and Pop are still surprising.
 
2013-12-29 04:14:37 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Glitchwerks: You don't necessarily like artists because they are on a specific label, but you do collect all the releases a label puts out.
Certain labels just release specific types of music and always release something worth listening to.
Rarer these days, but still true in certain niche genres where the labels are still privately-run.


It's almost ubiquetous in the underground (especially electronic music).

All labels specialize. It gets much easier to follow scenes, in fact, if you ignore artists and just follow labels.

As for U2 -- the Dane Cook of rock music -- I guess I liked that one song they did. The guitar was all jangly and everything.
 
2013-12-29 04:20:14 PM
Wow, you follow "scenes."
That's very hipster of you.

That jangly guitar was making U2 millions in arenas before the idea of you was a trickle of desire in your mommy's panties, son.
 
2013-12-29 04:30:02 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Wow, you follow "scenes."


Yes. About 30 of them.

HotIgneous Intruder: That's very hipster of you.


I've been doing this a lot longer than hipsters have been around, I assure you.

HotIgneous Intruder: That jangly guitar was making U2 millions in arenas before the idea of you was a trickle of desire in your mommy's panties, son.


First of all, I'm glad you think I'm that young. I'm flattered.

Secondly, of course U2 made millions. That's what makes them so bland and inoffensive -- that they churn out the musical equivalent of rice cakes, perfect for grandmothers and 8 year olds alike. I mean, what is the Joshua Tree but a Christian rock album in everything but name. That's right. You were listening to, and liked, Jesus rock. You rebel you.

/I have an alternative theory: It's a concept album about finding loose change in the couch
//Just think about it
 
2013-12-29 04:48:34 PM
please, make it stop

/u2 were awesome
//in 1980
 
2013-12-29 04:49:13 PM
rjakobiJust play "One"! We don't give a fark about Africa!

I saw Bono speak @ a university nearby about all that & it was basically moving all the planet's goods production into inherently unstable nations surrounded by pirates, going  'We gotta do this for Africa' & I kept thinking "meh, we really should be doing this for Detroit"
 
2013-12-29 05:15:43 PM

Ishkur: Secondly, of course U2 made millions. That's what makes them so bland and inoffensive -- that they churn out the musical equivalent of rice cakes, perfect for grandmothers and 8 year olds alike. I mean, what is the Joshua Tree but a Christian rock album in everything but name. That's right. You were listening to, and liked, Jesus rock. You rebel you.


That's what makes Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop so interesting: the same born-again Christian band said, "Let's go out and find out what good and evil actually are, rather than just reading about them; let's live life!"
 
2013-12-29 05:22:39 PM
Can't you see we're really rebelling against the idea of rebelling?
 
2013-12-29 05:39:49 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Motown is pretty solid until Barry Gordy moved the operation to LA in 1972 .  He sold out in 1988, but it was falling apart by then; anyone signed after the Jackson 5 to Motown is hit or miss; almost everything before is amazing.


Gordy's big-screen dreams got in the way of growing the label when they moved to LA. With flops like "The Wiz" and "The Last Dragon," the Motown Films division was a failure. Then he hired the man who co-founded Dunhill with Lou Adler to run the label in the early '80s, shaping Lionel Richie's pop success but not much else.

Motown should have been worth more. Island was sold to PolyGram in '89 for five times what Motown sold for a year earlier. Alpert & Moss sold A&M to PolyGram for even more not too long after.
 
2013-12-29 05:53:58 PM

Glitchwerks: drewogatory: Of course fans have favorite labels. Granted, none of them are the mega corps, but still. I mean, Motown springs to mind fer farks sake.

This, except some of the mega corps do own some favorite labels.

Rhino Records, for example.


Yeah, but the real Rhino died after Warner bought them.

Now, Rhino is just WB's oldies label. Which is still good and all, but i isn't the label that released Dr Demento albums and Golden Throats and bought The Monkees.

/Now, that's Shout Factory, since the original Rhino owners are the guys who founded Shout.
 
2013-12-29 06:21:10 PM

Dwight_Yeast: That's what makes Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop so interesting: the same born-again Christian band said, "Let's go out and find out what good and evil actually are, rather than just reading about them; let's live life!"


*chortle* If you say so.

Too bad Creed couldn't trace that career path, huh?
 
2013-12-29 06:43:41 PM
When I originally heard U2 left for Mercury, I was hoping they'd be destroyed by the temperatures hot enough to melt lead, or at least suffocated by the tenuous exosphere.
 
2013-12-29 07:14:08 PM

Ishkur: Secondly, of course U2 made millions. That's what makes them so bland and inoffensive -- that they churn out the musical equivalent of rice cakes, perfect for grandmothers and 8 year olds alike. I mean, what is the Joshua Tree but a Christian rock album in everything but name. That's right. You were listening to, and liked, Jesus rock. You rebel you.


Ah yes, the Cobain Paradox.
Successful cannot = hip or kewl.

There's only one solution: a cheap walmart shotgun.
Have at it, you smug sunshine daisy, you ray of cheery positivity!
 
2013-12-29 07:29:52 PM
U2 sucks.
 
2013-12-29 07:44:38 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Successful cannot = hip or kewl.


Not necessarily, however you must understand that pop music is not a genre, it is a process of watering down the essence of a genre's purity to the point where it is a tasteless paste of shallow pads and shiny melodies and family friendly images that appeals to all ages. And in the 80s, the two rock bands that exemplified this formula the most were Bon Jovi and U2.

Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't like them. I'm just pointing out what it is you like. And that's fine. Some people are entertained by dangling keys in front of them. There's nothing wrong with that.

HotIgneous Intruder: Have at it, you smug sunshine daisy, you ray of cheery positivity!


You seem to be confusing cynicism with aggressive common sense.
 
2013-12-29 08:01:31 PM
I guess this proves that no band is an Island...
 
2013-12-29 08:14:24 PM

Ishkur: Secondly, of course U2 made millions. That's what makes them so bland and inoffensive -- that they churn out the musical equivalent of rice cakes, perfect for grandmothers and 8 year olds alike. I mean, what is the Joshua Tree but a Christian rock album in everything but name. That's right. You were listening to, and liked, Jesus rock. You rebel you.


I despise U2.

But A) Unforgettable Fire is the furthest thing from bland and B) If you think Joshua Tree is Christian Rock, you need to go re-read the lyrics to "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For".
 
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