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(Washington Post)   Three-quarters of all states are run through single-party government, which has led to the establishment of what are essentially 2 Americas. Herpistan and Derpistan, let's call them   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 34
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2013-12-29 02:18:52 PM  
7 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Satisfying as such images may be, they don't take into account the red state propensity to accept more more from the federal government than they pay in taxes. The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government. We'll just hobble along using the taxes collected in our state." As a Massachusettsian, I calculate that my Federal taxes could be cut by 25% with no change in services if we didn't have to prop up those Welfare queen states  like Mississippi, South Carolina and Alaska. When are you welfare cheats gonna start pulling your own weight?
2013-12-29 01:50:40 PM  
7 votes:
Blue states in the year 2050:
1.bp.blogspot.com

Red States in the Year 2050:
www.centives.net
2013-12-29 02:18:33 PM  
4 votes:
A prime example of  how conservatives would run a state (or country) if they get full control is NC. After 2012 the state legislature ended up with a veto proof majority of rabid, far right conservatives in both houses, with a rubber stamp conservative in the Governor's seat too.

The result has been a total reversal of decades of governing by liberals and progressives that had NC considered the most forward thinking state in the South. Voting restrictions, abortion restrictions, environmental deregulation, education defunding, taking power away from cities and counties (despite claims from conservatives that 'local government is the best'), implementing an anti-gay marriage amendment to the state constitution, raising taxes on the middle class and poor while lowering them on the rich, and passing business friendly laws were all accomplished in 2013, all over the objections of both the Democrats in the legislature and the public in general.

No telling what they'll come up with in 2014.
2013-12-29 02:01:21 PM  
4 votes:

jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal


California has been on an amazing tear since the Democrats completely took over.  Single party government can work, just not single party Republican government.
2013-12-30 09:46:12 AM  
2 votes:
Conservatives want to make the world a better place for themselves. Liberals want to make the world a better place for everybody. Liberals might not always be competent in trying to achieve their goal. You'd better pray that Conservatives never are.
2013-12-29 03:01:57 PM  
2 votes:

El Pachuco: Republican states have pursued economic and fiscal strategies built around lower taxes, deeper spending cuts and less regulation. They have declined to set up state health-insurance exchanges to implement President Obama's Affordable Care Act. They have clashed with labor unions.

Blue states have also been forced to cut spending, given the budgetary pressures caused by the recession. But rather than cutting more deeply, a number of them also have raised taxes to pay for education or infrastructure. They have backed the president on the main elements of his health-care law.

If this is actually true, then we should soon have enough data to judge which approach really worked best.  Prediction: The data is ignored and the right keeps both index fingers firmly planted in ears, chants lalalala.


And if the blue state policies turn out to be failures, it will still be the Republican's fault, the way the Obamacare disaster is due to the GOP thinking evil thoughts at it.
2013-12-29 02:23:05 PM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-12-29 01:56:05 PM  
2 votes:
*considers posting, then just says "meh" and goes back to skyrim*
2013-12-29 01:53:33 PM  
2 votes:
One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.
2013-12-30 01:40:45 AM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


blue:
theeconomiccollapseblog.com

red:
www.belch.com
2013-12-29 08:38:53 PM  
1 votes:
One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism basic understanding of reality and civics.

FTFY.

/I suppose bigotry and hatred are traditional values in America...we're not  proud of them, but they are technically  traditional.
2013-12-29 08:11:42 PM  
1 votes:

Kit Fister: I should rephrase: change it so that payout is a set amount for everyone, everyone who is a citizen is entitled to it, and the funds are collected purely as a tax, without any link between input and outflow of cash.

So, government says on retirement they pay you $30k a year or whatever, no matter your employment status or history, and funds are taken as a tax subject to all other tax breaks, levels, rebates, deductions, and rules such that the costs are unevenly split.

Abolishing the whole SS program is one way to do it: let the private citizen invest in his or her retirement in the best way they see fit.

But that is problematic as you then see a wide gap of people: those who save diligently, and those who couldn't save money if their life depended on it.

So, then the question becomes: which is the better option: collecting and setting aside money in an annuity to stem the flow of those who didn't save because they were too poor, never paid in taxes because they were too poor, and now collect welfare in their twilight years because they can neither work nor have funds to cover their end of life costs and whatnot.


Social Security taxes come out of payroll taxes, everyone pays them.  One way to help the system would be to remove the wage cap.  Currently only the first $117K of income is subject to social security tax.  Eliminate that cap so that all income is taxed, and place an additional SS cap on capital gains.  That would create a huge influx of money into the program and resolve any solvency issues for the future.
2013-12-29 07:08:05 PM  
1 votes:

HeadLever: Smackledorfer: Stop dishonestly discussing ss as welfare.
 
I was responding to an anecdote and had to make an assumption.  I fully qualified said assumption.

In other words, it is not your place to refute said assumption, but that belongs to  glmorrs1alone.


Horseshiat.

You are consistent in your dishonest characterizing of ss.It isn't limited to this thread. Further, even if this other person was stupid enough to consider ss welfare, then it still shouldn't have been included in your later agreement that it has anything to do with the debt.

Social Security does not contribute to the deficit or the debt. Period. Saying it does is ridiculous. Which is too bad, because everytime an obviously biased person like slips dishonesty into an ss discussion it decreases the chances we reasonably address any real issues that exist with it.
2013-12-29 04:41:57 PM  
1 votes:

MithrandirBooga: HeadLever: clambam: The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government.

You don't pay attention too much do you?


Oh sure, they make a big show about rejecting Federal money and saying "We can do it better on our own. With Blackjack. And Hookers". But then when things start falling apart, they come crawling back...


Rick Scott in FL did something similar, but never came crawling back.  He rejected 2.4 billion in federal funds that would have been used to build high speed rail between Tampa, Orlando, and Miami (hopefully with eventual connection between other cities).  It would have created thousands of short and long term jobs and been a huge convenience for the people of Florida when finished, but he'd rather cut of his own nose than accept money from Obama.
2013-12-29 03:46:06 PM  
1 votes:

Delay: FTA: "One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism."

Why this shiat again?


To be fair, it's impossible to hold both beliefs simultaneously. There's no way to believe your family -and- your government are essential.
2013-12-29 03:29:39 PM  
1 votes:

clambam: while Louisiana get $2.73 back. When you're sucking that ferociously at the Federal teat, I guess it's OK to turns down fourths on occasion.


Ok, I'll add geography to the growing list of stuff you know nothing about.  Look again - here let me help.  Louisiana looks like this:


www.washingtonpost.com
2013-12-29 03:17:46 PM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: And if the blue state policies turn out to be failures, it will still be the Republican's fault, the way the Obamacare disaster is due to the GOP thinking evil thoughts at it.


I know you're not accepting responsibility here or anything, but this is a useful reminder of how the the Republicans did everything they could possibly think of to sabotage the ACA, including trying to repeal it 47 times.  Any program facing that much opposition is going to have a few tiny implementation problems.

Or, in terms simple enough for you to get:

Obama: The ACA will help millions of Americans get healthcare insurance.

GOP: Oh Hell Naw!!!! *sabotage*sabotage*sabotage*sabotage*sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sa b otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sabotage *sab otage

GOP: Har har lookit all the problems with Obamacare!!!
2013-12-29 03:04:02 PM  
1 votes:

Kit Fister: *considers posting, then just says "meh" and goes back to skyrim*


Good. Save us the threadshiat.
2013-12-29 03:02:26 PM  
1 votes:

chuggernaught: TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]

Name the specific Repub policies that will cause that to pass.


Cuts to education spending, selling public utilities to private corporations and then leading them back at 150-200% markup, getting rid of union protections... I mean, how many are you looking for?
2013-12-29 02:56:35 PM  
1 votes:

clambam: No money in it for the politicians and their cronies. Screw the pre-school children of Louisiana.


Lol, those goalpost heavy?
2013-12-29 02:51:42 PM  
1 votes:

HeadLever: clambam: The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government.

You don't pay attention too much do you?



Oh sure, they make a big show about rejecting Federal money and saying "We can do it better on our own. With Blackjack. And Hookers". But then when things start falling apart, they come crawling back...
2013-12-29 02:50:13 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Name the specific Repub policies that will cause that to pass.
2013-12-29 02:41:51 PM  
1 votes:

Thrag: jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal

Bloomberg, a liberal? Really?


Bloomberg is an aspiring benevolent dictator. I wouldn't brand him as either liberal or conservative.
2013-12-29 02:37:37 PM  
1 votes:

IlGreven: Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.

Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.

I eat bread without butter.


That's a religion.
2013-12-29 02:10:56 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Analogy doesn't work. Looks like there's some adequate volcano monitoring, a completed construction project and a fluency in Black Speech.
2013-12-29 02:09:31 PM  
1 votes:
Florida tag = state run by teabaggers.
2013-12-29 02:03:01 PM  
1 votes:
A derp in every pot.

It worked great for Detroit, which was once one of the wealthiest and refined cities of the world.
2013-12-29 02:01:36 PM  
1 votes:

El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.


And

northbysouth.kenyon.edu
2013-12-29 01:59:45 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


The latter is Wichita, KS, right?
2013-12-29 01:57:56 PM  
1 votes:
Republican states have pursued economic and fiscal strategies built around lower taxes, deeper spending cuts and less regulation. They have declined to set up state health-insurance exchanges to implement President Obama's Affordable Care Act. They have clashed with labor unions.

Blue states have also been forced to cut spending, given the budgetary pressures caused by the recession. But rather than cutting more deeply, a number of them also have raised taxes to pay for education or infrastructure. They have backed the president on the main elements of his health-care law.


If this is actually true, then we should soon have enough data to judge which approach really worked best.  Prediction: The data is ignored and the right keeps both index fingers firmly planted in ears, chants lalalala.
2013-12-29 01:57:28 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal
2013-12-29 01:26:27 PM  
1 votes:
Good. Single party government is in a lot of ways a lot better - it lets you, as the voter, actually judge the government on its merits. Gridlocked government is a farking disaster of governance, both on a practical level and on an accountability level.
2013-12-29 12:02:08 PM  
1 votes:
Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.
2013-12-29 11:47:59 AM  
1 votes:
In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.
 
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