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(Washington Post)   Three-quarters of all states are run through single-party government, which has led to the establishment of what are essentially 2 Americas. Herpistan and Derpistan, let's call them   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 196
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2013-12-29 11:47:59 AM
In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.
 
2013-12-29 12:02:08 PM
Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.
 
2013-12-29 12:21:38 PM
Both sides are bad, so vote Herpderpublicat.
 
2013-12-29 12:44:04 PM
So... Big-Endians and Little-Endians

/neither too Swift
 
2013-12-29 12:52:48 PM
I'm a proud citizen of Herpistan.
 
2013-12-29 01:26:27 PM
Good. Single party government is in a lot of ways a lot better - it lets you, as the voter, actually judge the government on its merits. Gridlocked government is a farking disaster of governance, both on a practical level and on an accountability level.
 
2013-12-29 01:50:40 PM
Blue states in the year 2050:
1.bp.blogspot.com

Red States in the Year 2050:
www.centives.net
 
2013-12-29 01:51:30 PM
FTA: "One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism."

Why this shiat again?
 
2013-12-29 01:53:33 PM
One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.
 
2013-12-29 01:56:05 PM
*considers posting, then just says "meh" and goes back to skyrim*
 
2013-12-29 01:57:28 PM
Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal
 
2013-12-29 01:57:56 PM
Republican states have pursued economic and fiscal strategies built around lower taxes, deeper spending cuts and less regulation. They have declined to set up state health-insurance exchanges to implement President Obama's Affordable Care Act. They have clashed with labor unions.

Blue states have also been forced to cut spending, given the budgetary pressures caused by the recession. But rather than cutting more deeply, a number of them also have raised taxes to pay for education or infrastructure. They have backed the president on the main elements of his health-care law.


If this is actually true, then we should soon have enough data to judge which approach really worked best.  Prediction: The data is ignored and the right keeps both index fingers firmly planted in ears, chants lalalala.
 
2013-12-29 01:59:23 PM

jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal


This is s truly terrible argument.
 
2013-12-29 01:59:45 PM

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


The latter is Wichita, KS, right?
 
2013-12-29 02:01:21 PM

jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal


California has been on an amazing tear since the Democrats completely took over.  Single party government can work, just not single party Republican government.
 
2013-12-29 02:01:36 PM

El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.


And

northbysouth.kenyon.edu
 
2013-12-29 02:01:39 PM
Or we could get to the psychology of it, and call them My Team and The Bad People.
 
2013-12-29 02:03:01 PM
A derp in every pot.

It worked great for Detroit, which was once one of the wealthiest and refined cities of the world.
 
2013-12-29 02:06:46 PM

Son of Thunder: Or we could get to the psychology of it, and call them My Team and The Bad People.


So you're saying both sides are bad?  How should I vote then?
 
2013-12-29 02:07:27 PM

make me some tea: I'm a proud citizen of Herpistan.


O.o

/Couldn't resist the joke.
//*throws some teriyaki-marinated chicken thighs on the grill as peace offering*
 
2013-12-29 02:08:49 PM
Stupid should be trumped by obvious.

We dont even know who the candidates for the 2016 election will be since Obummer is term limited and the republicans arent the party in power at the second but we can already call like 3/4 of the states results for the 2016 election.
 
2013-12-29 02:09:31 PM
Florida tag = state run by teabaggers.
 
2013-12-29 02:10:56 PM

TV's Vinnie: Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Analogy doesn't work. Looks like there's some adequate volcano monitoring, a completed construction project and a fluency in Black Speech.
 
2013-12-29 02:11:49 PM

StopLurkListen: El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.

And


Why are you showing a 50 year old pic of a Democrat controled at the time state?
 
2013-12-29 02:15:49 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.


Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.


I eat bread without butter.
 
2013-12-29 02:18:33 PM
A prime example of  how conservatives would run a state (or country) if they get full control is NC. After 2012 the state legislature ended up with a veto proof majority of rabid, far right conservatives in both houses, with a rubber stamp conservative in the Governor's seat too.

The result has been a total reversal of decades of governing by liberals and progressives that had NC considered the most forward thinking state in the South. Voting restrictions, abortion restrictions, environmental deregulation, education defunding, taking power away from cities and counties (despite claims from conservatives that 'local government is the best'), implementing an anti-gay marriage amendment to the state constitution, raising taxes on the middle class and poor while lowering them on the rich, and passing business friendly laws were all accomplished in 2013, all over the objections of both the Democrats in the legislature and the public in general.

No telling what they'll come up with in 2014.
 
2013-12-29 02:18:52 PM

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Satisfying as such images may be, they don't take into account the red state propensity to accept more more from the federal government than they pay in taxes. The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government. We'll just hobble along using the taxes collected in our state." As a Massachusettsian, I calculate that my Federal taxes could be cut by 25% with no change in services if we didn't have to prop up those Welfare queen states  like Mississippi, South Carolina and Alaska. When are you welfare cheats gonna start pulling your own weight?
 
2013-12-29 02:19:29 PM

jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal


Bloomberg, a liberal? Really?
 
2013-12-29 02:22:28 PM

jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal


I'm wondering how you are characterizing the performance of the state and city governments.  With respect to the deficit, the state and city budgets were in deficit around the same time, mainly because of the financial crisis (the state budget appears to be in balance as of 2013, although with projected deficits for 2014 and later; the city budget appears to be in deficit now but is projected to be balanced in 2015).
 
2013-12-29 02:22:42 PM

IlGreven: Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.

Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.

I eat bread without butter.


Oh look everyone, it's a buttertarian!
 
2013-12-29 02:23:05 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-29 02:24:08 PM

Craptastic: IlGreven: Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.

Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.

I eat bread without butter.

Oh look everyone, it's a buttertarian!


I eat without bread.
 
2013-12-29 02:25:36 PM
Political polarization has ushered in a new era in state government, where single-party control of the levers of power has produced competing Americas. One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values LIBS SUCK; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism Repubs have become a bit wacko, don't you think?.


FTFWaPo
 
2013-12-29 02:27:22 PM

TuteTibiImperes: jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal

California has been on an amazing tear since the Democrats completely took over.  Single party government can work, just not single party Republican government.


All you had to do was shortchange state pensions by about a hundred billion and pray the feds bail you out when the bill comes due.
 
2013-12-29 02:28:32 PM

El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.


"He knew about concerned citizens. Wherever they were, they all spoke the same private language, where 'traditional values' meant 'hang someone'."  ~  T. Pratchett
 
2013-12-29 02:29:14 PM

clambam: The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government.


You don't pay attention too much do you?
 
2013-12-29 02:29:49 PM

Oldiron_79: StopLurkListen: El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.

And

Why are you showing a 50 year old pic of a Democrat controled at the time state?


That "sentence" only barely resembles standard written English. I'm guessing you were home schooled?
 
2013-12-29 02:36:26 PM

Bendal: A prime example of  how conservatives would run a state (or country) if they get full control is NC. After 2012 the state legislature ended up with a veto proof majority of rabid, far right conservatives in both houses, with a rubber stamp conservative in the Governor's seat too.

The result has been a total reversal of decades of governing by liberals and progressives that had NC considered the most forward thinking state in the South. Voting restrictions, abortion restrictions, environmental deregulation, education defunding, taking power away from cities and counties (despite claims from conservatives that 'local government is the best'), implementing an anti-gay marriage amendment to the state constitution, raising taxes on the middle class and poor while lowering them on the rich, and passing business friendly laws were all accomplished in 2013, all over the objections of both the Democrats in the legislature and the public in general.

No telling what they'll come up with in 2014.


Sounds a lot like here in WI.
 
2013-12-29 02:37:32 PM

BMulligan: Oldiron_79: StopLurkListen: El Pachuco: One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism.

Uh huh.  Sure, that's a euphemistic way of phrasing, scared old xenophobes.

And

Why are you showing a 50 year old pic of a Democrat controled at the time state?

That "sentence" only barely resembles standard written English. I'm guessing you were home schooled?


THANK YOU! I was scared I was drunk and should go home and I really haven't had much to drink today. Also, I'm already home so I wasn't sure what steps to take next.. That word salad was just absurd.
 
2013-12-29 02:37:37 PM

IlGreven: Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.

Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.

I eat bread without butter.


That's a religion.
 
2013-12-29 02:37:51 PM

IlGreven: Bareefer Obonghit: In every Derp house and in every Derp town every Derp eats his bread with the butter side down!

Long live Herpistan.

Pocket Ninja: Every Herp man and woman, every Herp kit and pup, every one of those Herps eats bread butter side up!

Long live Derpistan.

I eat bread without butter.


I voted for Kodos.
 
2013-12-29 02:38:29 PM

Delay: FTA: "One is grounded in principles of lean and limited government and on traditional values; the other is built on a belief in the essential role of government and on tenets of cultural liberalism."

Why this shiat again?


Apparently we're still having the "Do we really need government" argument.

This is what happens when you don't teach civics in school, folks.
 
2013-12-29 02:41:51 PM

Thrag: jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal

Bloomberg, a liberal? Really?


Bloomberg is an aspiring benevolent dictator. I wouldn't brand him as either liberal or conservative.
 
2013-12-29 02:43:40 PM

clambam: s a Massachusettsian, I calculate that my Federal taxes could be cut by 25% with no change in services if we didn't have to prop up those Welfare queen states  like Mississippi, South Carolina and Alaska. When are you welfare cheats gonna start pulling your own weight?


If you notice, WV is the biggest 'welfare cheat' and notice where it is located on the TFA's list.

www.ritholtz.com
 
2013-12-29 02:48:39 PM

HeadLever: clambam: The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government.

You don't pay attention too much do you?


No money in it for the politicians and their cronies. Screw the pre-school children of Louisiana.
 
2013-12-29 02:50:13 PM

TV's Vinnie: Blue states in the year 2050:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]

Red States in the Year 2050:
[www.centives.net image 800x526]


Name the specific Repub policies that will cause that to pass.
 
2013-12-29 02:51:42 PM

HeadLever: clambam: The one statement you will never hear is a red state governor saying "Sorry, we can';t accept these extra funds from the Federal government.

You don't pay attention too much do you?



Oh sure, they make a big show about rejecting Federal money and saying "We can do it better on our own. With Blackjack. And Hookers". But then when things start falling apart, they come crawling back...
 
2013-12-29 02:53:39 PM

make me some tea: Bloomberg is an aspiring benevolent dictator. I wouldn't brand him as either liberal or conservative.


And the NY Liberals who fought for him to get a third term have all regretted it.

/term limits is another form of mitigating risk
 
2013-12-29 02:55:13 PM

gingerjet: make me some tea: Bloomberg is an aspiring benevolent dictator. I wouldn't brand him as either liberal or conservative.

And the NY Liberals who fought for him to get a third term have all regretted it.

/term limits is another form of mitigating risk


No, it isn't: Term limits leave the executive and the legislation at the mercy of the bureaucrats.
 
2013-12-29 02:55:45 PM

make me some tea: Thrag: jedihirsch: Yeah I live in New York, the State has a moderate liberal governor (and before that two moderate libs and a moderate repub before that) and far-left run democrat state assembly and a staunchly conservative run Republican State Senate. And nothing gets done and it works out pretty well. The state went for nearly six years without a budget not that long ago, and it still ran pretty well. NYC which has until jan 1, 4 republicans and 47 democrats to be 3 repubs and 48 dems next year. And 44 of the dems identify as liberal. We had a liberal mayor (except on taxes) for 12 years now and a fringe liberal incoming, and NYC is billions in debt and badly managed. I think when we had a repub mayor like Rudy with a liberal council, things worked out better and maybe if the city council was more balanced the city would be run better.

 I like the split, it keeps things balanced and normal

Bloomberg, a liberal? Really?

Bloomberg is an aspiring benevolent dictator. I wouldn't brand him as either liberal or conservative.


He seems to be authoritarian when it comes to most people, but libertarian when it comes to people in his economic class ($10,000,000/year or greater).
 
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