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(The Raw Story)   Colorado and Washington brace for 'marijuana tourism' surge. Neighboring states police forces brace for border checkpoints and 'revenue enhancement' surge   (rawstory.com) divider line 53
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2013-12-29 11:55:26 AM  
7 votes:

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.


I could be wrong, but you are probably young and have connections like I did back in the day, or are lucky enough to live somewhere where you've established safe connections.

I can't afford to shiat where I eat. Having lost all my connections when I moved across the country to take my first real job, I have essentially been dry for the past decade plus. I'm too old to be doing the stupid weed dance where you bring it up in conversation and see what kind of reaction you get, and I don't have connections with the locals not affiliated with my workplace. Not worth the risk, and I don't need it, I just absolutely love it.

I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.

I am a patient person. I have relatives in Maine where legalization looks imminent, and my work regularly brings me to Colorado. For now, I just feel a warm sense of satisfaction that sometime in the not too distant future (after the smoke clears from the initial cacophony that will undoubtedly arise when demand exceeds supply; I envision long lines outside of dispensaries the morning of 1/1/14 in CO), I will be able to walk into a store, choose a gram or two of a couple different strains, and enjoy not only a buzz, but finally being able to pick and choose strains that suit my mood. To this day I have no idea whether I've smoked Northern Lights, or White Widow, or whatever. It's like blind sampling microbrews and macrobrews, all in clear nondescript bottles.
2013-12-29 10:26:08 AM  
7 votes:

BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.
2013-12-29 11:49:16 AM  
6 votes:

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.


Maybe it's just a reflection of how much of a loser I am; but even when I was in college I couldn't find a reliable source to buy weed.  Back then, I 'knew a guy' who sometimes had weed.  And he'd sometimes hook me up.  And a girl I knew, she had a cousin who would 'sometimes' come out to campus and he'd sometimes sell me some weed.  But I could never just dial a number and get some weed.  I would have gladly paid for it....I just never could find someone to sell it to me.

When I finished college it got 100x worse.  I moved cities and got a 'nice' job.  My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.  And once we started getting serious girlfriends and wives, the nights of closing out the bars turned into a few beers before calling it a night at 11pm on a Saturday.  I've had a few coworkers I've gotten along well with and even hung out with outside of work, but none that I suspect have weed or that would sell weed to me.

Admittedly, I've never tried THAT hard; but especially now, I have a lot more disposable income than I did when I was in college and I wouldn't think twice about the cost.  Ideally, I'd like a bunch of premade cookies/brownies and I'd probably want to get high 1-2 times per year.

If I were in Colorado and I could do it myself, I'd absolutely buy some weed.  But I don't want to deal with the headaches and risks associated with finding a reliable source and dealing with potentially getting busted.  So, maybe I'm the exception, but for me, that's an excellent reason to pick Colorado or Washington as a vacation destination.  I'm not much for travelling, but my wife is and CO has lots of nature stuff anyway.
2013-12-29 08:18:26 AM  
4 votes:
I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone

/I know Colorado's gov is a stick in the mud on this
//don't know about Washington's
///ass, gas or grass; only slashies are for free
2013-12-29 01:01:57 PM  
3 votes:
The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.
2013-12-29 12:02:36 PM  
3 votes:

EngineerAU: You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?


when Smoking, the high generally kicks in five to ten minutes after smoking and lasts an hour or two,
when eating the high kicks in after thirty minutes to an hour and can last 6 to 8 hours.

Also most people I know who have a "freakout" are eating it for the first time,  don't feel the effects quick enough and eat some more and by the time it fully kicks in they have over done it and flip out.
2013-12-29 01:25:53 PM  
2 votes:

b0rscht: Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ...


I dunno, seems to me that the LEO community, the TurnKey's [jailers, prison guards], judges, lawyers and the "Drug Rehab Centers" have been the biggest winners in the "War on Drugs", which for Cannabis, cost us 7.7 Billion Bucks last year alone [I pulled that figure off the internet, was for 2012 for pot ONLY, did not include all other drug wars].

The use of Civil seizures alone accounts for such an addictive level of MONEY to the Policeeece forces that it's impossible for them to wean themselves of their drug money.

Sure, the stereotype of stoner works against us, but I worked for 35 years, spent 20 years with one company alone, founded my own company and then sold that to retire at a very young age.

And I did it all while getting high on weed and for many years a functional drunk - gave up the Ethanol a long time ago, much happier.  There's a lot of normal looking people who blow thru a lot of grass, like every single Architect I ever worked with - sometimes you got baked to come up with new designs, sometimes you got baked to swallow the stupid ideas of the owner - who gets what he wants while you grind your teeth...

And yea, I have minor concerns about 'former users' coming to CO for a vacation and getting ahold of some of the stiffer grades of weed on the street - it's no Kansas Diesel anymore - and getting baked wildly, but for now, out of state visitors are limited to 7 grams per purchase, AKA a quarter oz.  Enough to have fun, probably not enough to do serious damage I guess.

Frankly, at high altitude, the booze will fark you up right away too so if you come, I suggest you stick with one or the other at a time - like a few puffs before you hit the mountain, then beers and booze lightly in the evening, but don't mix 'em or one of our finest WILL be scraping you off the ground.
2013-12-29 01:21:09 PM  
2 votes:

FizixJunkee: Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.

I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.


I'll bet if you were involved in an accident while operating a company vehicle you'd have been tested.
2013-12-29 01:09:45 PM  
2 votes:

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.


There are companies that ban employees smoking tobacco products completely, including at home when you're not at work.  If they do a test and show nicotine in your bloodstream, you're out.

This is the kind of shiat that happens when you allow unions to be decimated.  Without anyone fighting for the rights of the worker, the bosses are having a field day stripping away as many personal freedoms from employees as they can as long as it improves the bottom line a bit.
2013-12-29 11:56:28 AM  
2 votes:

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.



I partook when I was younger---before getting married and having kids---but haven't touched the stuff since (though there have been many occasions where I would have loved to have had some pot on hand...kids do that to you).

The primary reason I've not smoked any is because it's illegal and I have a lot to lose now (e.g., my job and a child) if something happened and I got arrested/convicted for pot.  It's just not worth the risk to me.

However, if pot were legal here in Georgia, yeah, I'd smoke again.  In a heartbeat.
2013-12-29 11:45:58 AM  
2 votes:

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.
2013-12-29 11:34:51 AM  
2 votes:

Breaker Moran: Here in Denver, folks seem to be pretty quiet about the new retail environment for pot.  I tend to believe that people largely are not interested and those inclined to use cannabis have had ready access to the stuff for years and years.  Again, I really think most people don't care or are a bit wary of a possible increase in an already increasing number of knuckleheads and dumbassery, overtly and insidiously (with the latter think THC-laden gummy bears, etc.).

Among the people I know who have red cards for medical pot, they complain about how expensive it is.  The retail stuff is going to be expensive, too.  If all goes well, that will be a leveling factor without a doubt.

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid -- it's not like some tourists here aren't already stoned as they ski or board or stroll the 16th Street and Pearl Street Malls.  Local public radio stupidly tried to create an issue around the question ¨Where are tourists going to smoke their pot?¨, citing that one can't smoke in public or in one's hotel room, somehow imagining that no tourist ever got stoned before in Colorado.

As far as the possibility of anticipated ¨shortages¨ go, that's a bunch of nonsense.  I have no way of knowing for certain, but I have a feeling that supply will always far outweigh demand.  Any ¨shortage" will likely be artificial, created to jack up prices.


The one that cracks me up is the MADD-types who think that "now" there will be all sorts of stoners on the streets driving around all farked up. Sorry you farking head-up-your-ass morons, but we stoners have been driving that way for years - often lighting the bowl/spliff/blunt while driving.

Making pot legal is not going to make the roads any worse - conjure up a different scandal.
2013-12-29 10:33:07 AM  
2 votes:
I've been looking into related stocks - seems like for the most part wall street has adopted a "wait and see" attitude.  There are a few companies out there listed but only one or two seem reasonably legit.  Nothing on the commonly traded markets - mostly OTC's.  I'm wondering if this will end up being like the gold rush in California - where the real people that get rich are the ones that work on selling the miners equipment, supplies and *cough* entertainment.
2013-12-29 09:44:39 AM  
2 votes:
Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.
2013-12-29 09:40:57 AM  
2 votes:
It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.
2013-12-29 04:51:42 PM  
1 votes:

profplump: pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?

Jobs with legitimate public safety concerns typically do have random, on-duty alcohol screenings. Such screenings frequently are much more time-focused than those for other drugs (due both to technological and political concerns).  And many such jobs also have mandatory drug and alcohol screening after any reportable incident.

Don't get me wrong -- I personally think drug testing is a bad idea (for both employees and employers, or any other set of parties) except for the specific case of bone fide public safety concerns. But let's not pretend that places with such concerns are ignoring alcohol.


The big difference is that tests for alcohol detect if you have intoxicating levels of alcohol in your system (though for some jobs the level considered unsafe is far less alcohol than the .08 BAC allowed for driving).  The tests for Marijuana can detect metabolites up to a month after use, even if you're 100% sober at the time.

I have no problem with workplaces testing to make sure employees aren't high or drunk on the job.  The problem I have is when the tests penalize people for use outside of work when that employee is never high or drunk while at work.
2013-12-29 03:42:24 PM  
1 votes:
I live in a bordering state (Oklahoma).

I suspect that Oklahoma will be the 53rd state to legalize marijuana...that is to say, there will be more states admitted to the union before Oklahoma legalizes.

The highest point in Oklahoma is about 5 miles from Colorado (and less than a half-mile from New Mexico), so I expect an increase in traffic to the Black Mesa.

Somehow I doubt increased LEO presence at the border of Oklahoma and the Comanche National Grassland.
2013-12-29 03:33:03 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?


Jobs with legitimate public safety concerns typically do have random, on-duty alcohol screenings. Such screenings frequently are much more time-focused than those for other drugs (due both to technological and political concerns).  And many such jobs also have mandatory drug and alcohol screening after any reportable incident.

Don't get me wrong -- I personally think drug testing is a bad idea (for both employees and employers, or any other set of parties) except for the specific case of bone fide public safety concerns. But let's not pretend that places with such concerns are ignoring alcohol.
2013-12-29 03:03:18 PM  
1 votes:

gfid: pueblonative: doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.

Tried, and went down in Colorado.

It's still illegal according to the Federal law.

Now, I'd wonder how a discrimination suit would proceed if a minority got tested and claimed that all the whites were baked out of their minds.

Yeah, there was a case earlier this year in Colorado.  The guy worked in a call center and had some sort of disability due to an accident years ago and had a MMJ card.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23104820/colorado-appeals-court-oks-fir in g-off-duty-marijuana

The guy was a quadriplegic who worked for Dish Netowrk.


That's what I was talking about.  Of course they wouldn't have minded if he came on site high off his tits on prescription meds as long as he had the prescription.

Remember: they don't count as bad drugs if your dealer wears a white overcoat.
2013-12-29 02:47:27 PM  
1 votes:

standardeviation: CSB time/

I live north of Denver, and was returning from xmas vacation back east on Friday.  On the plane from Dallas I heard no less than six people discussing how they were thinking about extending their vacations, or glad that their trip went past new years just so they could buy legal weed.

The general feeling I get is that Coloradoans are are going to be Coloradoans.  Which is to say, the entire state is full of "do what you want just don't bug me" individuals.  So long as people don't start becoming a nuisance then we couldn't possibly care less.

/now having an influx of Texans, that'll drive any of us crazy.


Where I live was part of the Republic of Texas for almost ten years.

/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas
//I really like the Republic of Texas
2013-12-29 02:29:00 PM  
1 votes:

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A realistic picture for me would be a middle aged dude with a small pipe standing in the bathroom with the exhaust fan on so his wife doesn't get pissed at the smell, followed by an hour or two of web-surfing and music-listening.
2013-12-29 02:04:20 PM  
1 votes:

doofusss: peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.

I've been around surveying/civil engineering for 25 years, almost everyone I've known uses the weed.
It helps tolerate all the hassles associated.


After the Olympic Pipeline disaster in the nineties, any company involved in gas pipeline work has to random drug test, even the owners who never go into the field.  Sucks, I know.  Good thing they never tested the admins. in the office or I'd have been in treatment or out on my ass.
2013-12-29 01:46:03 PM  
1 votes:
So the new talking point is "oh, we best watch out for all the people that can't handle it trying now because it's legal"?

Boy, I sure hope they don't curtail drinking because if all those arses that turn 21 and get wasted on alcohol cause now it's legal.

The anti-drug folks will try any tactic as their grip on the fear of people choosing their own fun slowly slips away.
2013-12-29 01:45:29 PM  
1 votes:
It's like Amsterdam without the smelly Eurotrash.
2013-12-29 01:36:47 PM  
1 votes:
fark, this thread just keeps going on and on like a Grateful Dead song where they forgot how it ends so they keep on playing.
2013-12-29 01:29:52 PM  
1 votes:
As a Colorado resident currently farking while smoking homegrown, legal weed- I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
2013-12-29 01:25:49 PM  
1 votes:
I'd suggest those farkers in WA/CO looking for `opportunities' in the ancillary market investigate Computerized Performance (impairment) Testing as a replacement for urine screens (potential to catch employees `impaired' for ANY reason and less invasive & more accurate measure of ability to perform job):

http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
2013-12-29 01:21:40 PM  
1 votes:

REO-Weedwagon: I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.


"Always been legal in Colorado"? Do you make a regular habit out of lying to people you meet on chairlifts?
2013-12-29 01:16:37 PM  
1 votes:
I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.
2013-12-29 01:14:38 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.
2013-12-29 01:11:20 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.


Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.
2013-12-29 01:08:15 PM  
1 votes:

bmwericus: The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.


Yes, and the part that makes me want to punch many faces repeatedly is that is has always been this way and we could have done this decades ago with the same big nothing to follow.

Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ones that deserve this characterization. Goddamm their puffy ageing douchebag faces.
2013-12-29 01:04:03 PM  
1 votes:

peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests


None of them any good.
2013-12-29 01:03:35 PM  
1 votes:
The best remedy still appears to be R2-45
2013-12-29 01:02:55 PM  
1 votes:
Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.
2013-12-29 12:59:43 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.

If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

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Yes every company has Keith Moon.
There are certain fields that require random drug tests, fortunately (or maybe unfortunately in his case) rock drummer is not one of them
2013-12-29 12:59:28 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.

i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).

I see what you mean. As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


Exactly, and I'm guessing those places also pay better than the minimum wage places.
2013-12-29 12:47:54 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.


i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).
2013-12-29 12:46:32 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


This is not true.  Not at all.
2013-12-29 12:45:00 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.


This is true.  I was the office manager for Land Surveying/Civil Eng. firm and the owners used say we could only seem to hire ex-cons as surveyors because they were the only ones who could pass the random DOT mandated drug tests.  We did a lot of gas pipeline work.
2013-12-29 12:44:22 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?


Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.
2013-12-29 12:25:50 PM  
1 votes:
I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.
2013-12-29 12:25:41 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.
2013-12-29 12:19:20 PM  
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BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.
2013-12-29 12:08:50 PM  
1 votes:
Settle down, things will get NORML
2013-12-29 12:05:27 PM  
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I look forward to the Nebraska state patrol putting up drug sniffing dog sign check points and watching people pulling off in the middle of nowhere.  That's when they get you.  If you're stupid enough to transport it, you'll be stupid enough to fall for it -- even with this heads up!!!

Thank you in advance for keeping our taxes low!!!
2013-12-29 12:01:13 PM  
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pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.
2013-12-29 11:56:11 AM  
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Fark_Guy_Rob: I moved cities and got a 'nice' job. My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.


Volunteer at Folk Festivals, or in your local blues/singer-songwriter community.
2013-12-29 11:50:49 AM  
1 votes:
Legal, illegal.. whatever. I'll smoke it anyway.
2013-12-29 11:44:07 AM  
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You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?
2013-12-29 11:40:47 AM  
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pueblonative: I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone


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Let's just do it without crappy beer this time.
2013-12-29 11:37:56 AM  
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BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


Most places can't do drug tests unless there is a accident, and a drug test is required per OSHAA.
However, here in Minnesota, if you are drunk or high, and get into an accident at work, if you test positive for drugs or alcohol and say "I need help" you can't get fired
2013-12-29 11:29:21 AM  
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Here in Denver, folks seem to be pretty quiet about the new retail environment for pot.  I tend to believe that people largely are not interested and those inclined to use cannabis have had ready access to the stuff for years and years.  Again, I really think most people don't care or are a bit wary of a possible increase in an already increasing number of knuckleheads and dumbassery, overtly and insidiously (with the latter think THC-laden gummy bears, etc.).

Among the people I know who have red cards for medical pot, they complain about how expensive it is.  The retail stuff is going to be expensive, too.  If all goes well, that will be a leveling factor without a doubt.

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid -- it's not like some tourists here aren't already stoned as they ski or board or stroll the 16th Street and Pearl Street Malls.  Local public radio stupidly tried to create an issue around the question ¨Where are tourists going to smoke their pot?¨, citing that one can't smoke in public or in one's hotel room, somehow imagining that no tourist ever got stoned before in Colorado.

As far as the possibility of anticipated ¨shortages¨ go, that's a bunch of nonsense.  I have no way of knowing for certain, but I have a feeling that supply will always far outweigh demand.  Any ¨shortage" will likely be artificial, created to jack up prices.
 
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