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2013-12-29 12:30:19 PM  

b0rscht: DarkVader:

But I could make a phone call and get it delivered if I wanted some.  And depending on who I called, I could probably get a free beej with the weed.  And I'm nowhere near CO or WA.

"A free beej" from a herpes-ridden thug named Rufus does not impress me.


Iwas going to go with "400-lb convict named Mother," but I see you have that covered.
 
2013-12-29 12:40:15 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.


I meant in terms of HR and recruiting.  Places that have a plethora of qualified clients will probably have more leeway in drug tests than those that are just places for warm bodies that do care if they are still making minimum wage in five to ten years.  And security and OSHA clearances would probably fall into the first category.


bhcompy: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.


If you have a job where you do public safety and/or has security clearance and come in smelling like cheeba, odds are you should be fired along with whoever hired you in the first place.  Of course you should be fired if you come in smelling like vodak or with a couple of empty pill bottles in your pockets as well.
 
2013-12-29 12:41:18 PM  

pueblonative: Places that have a plethora of qualified clients

employees

FTFM
 
2013-12-29 12:44:22 PM  

Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?


Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.
 
2013-12-29 12:44:44 PM  

b0rscht: I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.


And I am another point on that same graph right there with you.

True story time: while walking a month or so ago, I found a small bag of pot. Seriously. Have been hanging on to it without consumption, mostly because I'm in the job hunt and can't afford to fail a test.

When I get my next job, I'm going to be talking to the union rep about testing, because Colorado is a potential vacation for other reasons, but you can bet I'll be enjoying that benefit as well (if i won't lose my job).
 
2013-12-29 12:45:00 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.


This is true.  I was the office manager for Land Surveying/Civil Eng. firm and the owners used say we could only seem to hire ex-cons as surveyors because they were the only ones who could pass the random DOT mandated drug tests.  We did a lot of gas pipeline work.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:01 PM  

pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.

I meant in terms of HR and recruiting.  Places that have a plethora of qualified clients will probably have more leeway in drug tests than those that are just places for warm bodies that do care if they are still making minimum wage in five to ten years.  And security and OSHA clearances would probably fall into the first category.


bhcompy: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.

If you have a job where you do public safety and/or has security clearance and come in smelling like cheeba, odds are you should be fired along with whoever hired you in the first place.  Of course you should be f ...


What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.
Interestingly enough, this was when I worked in Colorado. Even when it's legal, if you have an accident while operating a 16-ton 40-foot long bus, the law says you're going to be drug tested. And if it's positive, you're going to lose your job.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:29 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


Tried, and went down in Colorado.

It's still illegal according to the Federal law.

Now, I'd wonder how a discrimination suit would proceed if a minority got tested and claimed that all the whites were baked out of their minds.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:32 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


This is not true.  Not at all.
 
2013-12-29 12:47:54 PM  

Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.


i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).
 
2013-12-29 12:50:30 PM  

peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.


If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

www.biography.com
 
2013-12-29 12:53:41 PM  

iron_city_ap: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.


(In best scruffy voice ) second
 
2013-12-29 12:55:53 PM  
Already read another story on one of the local television sites about this. They interviewed a deputy from Texas County (I think) in the panhandle and he had no issue with revealing his department's plan to set up checkpoints at the Oklahoma /Colorado line and he made no bones about the influx of potential revenue. With our state though as strapped for cash as they are I can see them changing the law to raise fines so after the county got their cut they would get a chunk to. After all I heard that the federal government (the DOT part) approached Oklahoma ' s DPS and will now offer $25 for EVERY commercial vehicle pulled over. So now OHP is sending their non DOT troopers through training to know what to check for when stopping a truck or bus (besides obvious violations)
 
2013-12-29 12:56:43 PM  

pueblonative: Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.

i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).


I see what you mean. As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.
 
2013-12-29 12:58:02 PM  

Oldiron_79: iron_city_ap: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.

(In best scruffy voice ) second


I'm guessing the Federal levels the next stop after a couple of years when Washington and Colorado turn out not to have descended into Sodom and Gomorrah for legalizing the sticky bud.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:01 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.

This is not true.  Not at all.


Not true to your not true; I work in a shop with specialized, reasonably well-paid tradesmen. EVERYONE gets baked. Boss man looks the other way, knowing that failed drug tests would decimate his workforce/bottom line.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:15 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


Totally Obligatory, man.
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-29 12:59:28 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.

i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).

I see what you mean. As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


Exactly, and I'm guessing those places also pay better than the minimum wage places.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:43 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.

If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


Yes every company has Keith Moon.
There are certain fields that require random drug tests, fortunately (or maybe unfortunately in his case) rock drummer is not one of them
 
2013-12-29 01:01:57 PM  
The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.
 
2013-12-29 01:02:55 PM  
Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.
 
2013-12-29 01:03:35 PM  
The best remedy still appears to be R2-45
 
2013-12-29 01:04:03 PM  

peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests


None of them any good.
 
2013-12-29 01:06:14 PM  

hammettman: Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.


Cross the border and violate federal and state law and get charged with intent to distribute.  Seems risky.
 
2013-12-29 01:07:42 PM  

hammettman: Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.


Sounds like this guy will be selling a shiat ton of DVDs:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14470003


/better method is legalization in your home state
//or federal repeal
///slashies, treys, that sorta thing
 
2013-12-29 01:08:15 PM  

bmwericus: The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.


Yes, and the part that makes me want to punch many faces repeatedly is that is has always been this way and we could have done this decades ago with the same big nothing to follow.

Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ones that deserve this characterization. Goddamm their puffy ageing douchebag faces.
 
2013-12-29 01:09:45 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.


There are companies that ban employees smoking tobacco products completely, including at home when you're not at work.  If they do a test and show nicotine in your bloodstream, you're out.

This is the kind of shiat that happens when you allow unions to be decimated.  Without anyone fighting for the rights of the worker, the bosses are having a field day stripping away as many personal freedoms from employees as they can as long as it improves the bottom line a bit.
 
2013-12-29 01:11:20 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.


Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.
 
2013-12-29 01:11:45 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-12-29 01:13:54 PM  
Ricky, Julian and Bubbles are seen planning their next vacation - to Colorado.
 
2013-12-29 01:14:38 PM  

Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.
 
2013-12-29 01:16:37 PM  
I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.
 
2013-12-29 01:17:04 PM  
Breaker Moran:

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid

www.mnn.com
 
2013-12-29 01:21:09 PM  

FizixJunkee: Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.

I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.


I'll bet if you were involved in an accident while operating a company vehicle you'd have been tested.
 
2013-12-29 01:21:40 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.


"Always been legal in Colorado"? Do you make a regular habit out of lying to people you meet on chairlifts?
 
2013-12-29 01:23:21 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.


The highest paying branch of science? Dirt science. You drive to farms, test soil, recommend ways to improve quality. It's retardedly easy chemistry with pre-made kits and the athleticism of long haul trucking. Go get 'em tiger.
 
2013-12-29 01:25:49 PM  
I'd suggest those farkers in WA/CO looking for `opportunities' in the ancillary market investigate Computerized Performance (impairment) Testing as a replacement for urine screens (potential to catch employees `impaired' for ANY reason and less invasive & more accurate measure of ability to perform job):

http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
 
2013-12-29 01:25:53 PM  

b0rscht: Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ...


I dunno, seems to me that the LEO community, the TurnKey's [jailers, prison guards], judges, lawyers and the "Drug Rehab Centers" have been the biggest winners in the "War on Drugs", which for Cannabis, cost us 7.7 Billion Bucks last year alone [I pulled that figure off the internet, was for 2012 for pot ONLY, did not include all other drug wars].

The use of Civil seizures alone accounts for such an addictive level of MONEY to the Policeeece forces that it's impossible for them to wean themselves of their drug money.

Sure, the stereotype of stoner works against us, but I worked for 35 years, spent 20 years with one company alone, founded my own company and then sold that to retire at a very young age.

And I did it all while getting high on weed and for many years a functional drunk - gave up the Ethanol a long time ago, much happier.  There's a lot of normal looking people who blow thru a lot of grass, like every single Architect I ever worked with - sometimes you got baked to come up with new designs, sometimes you got baked to swallow the stupid ideas of the owner - who gets what he wants while you grind your teeth...

And yea, I have minor concerns about 'former users' coming to CO for a vacation and getting ahold of some of the stiffer grades of weed on the street - it's no Kansas Diesel anymore - and getting baked wildly, but for now, out of state visitors are limited to 7 grams per purchase, AKA a quarter oz.  Enough to have fun, probably not enough to do serious damage I guess.

Frankly, at high altitude, the booze will fark you up right away too so if you come, I suggest you stick with one or the other at a time - like a few puffs before you hit the mountain, then beers and booze lightly in the evening, but don't mix 'em or one of our finest WILL be scraping you off the ground.
 
2013-12-29 01:29:52 PM  
As a Colorado resident currently farking while smoking homegrown, legal weed- I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
kth
2013-12-29 01:30:20 PM  
The real trick will be to make sure we don't accidentally put the baked goods away in the kitchen at my parents' condo next time we're out there.

Although, my mother on drugs would be funny.
 
2013-12-29 01:30:39 PM  

DarkVader: I don't smoke weed, it makes me really nauseous. (Yes, I know that's not normal, but it is a documented effect for a small percentage of the population.)


Same here. Handful of times I tried it made me sick to my stomach. Don't like it and don't like what it does to me. C'est la vie.

But I live in Vancouver, where weed practically grows wild. Throw a rock in any direction and hit five weed dealers. It's like being lactose intolerant and stuck in the land of chocolate.

/mmmmm...land of chocolate...
 
2013-12-29 01:31:46 PM  
bmwmericus, agreed, I just wanted to make the point that there is a not so subtle distinction between something not succeeding due to the behavior of proponents vs. something not succeeding due to behavior of detractors. And money corrupts everything. More irony (to me anyways) is that many medical growers/dispensaries are opposed to outright legalization because they fear it will cut into their own bottom line, ostensibly because there will be much more competition (especially if it scales up like with alcohol). As I said, money corrupts everything.
 
2013-12-29 01:36:47 PM  
fark, this thread just keeps going on and on like a Grateful Dead song where they forgot how it ends so they keep on playing.
 
2013-12-29 01:41:42 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.

The highest paying branch of science? Dirt science. You drive to farms, test soil, recommend ways to improve quality. It's retardedly easy chemistry with pre-made kits and the athleticism of long haul trucking. Go get 'em tiger.


Rowr :)
 
2013-12-29 01:45:29 PM  
It's like Amsterdam without the smelly Eurotrash.
 
2013-12-29 01:46:03 PM  
So the new talking point is "oh, we best watch out for all the people that can't handle it trying now because it's legal"?

Boy, I sure hope they don't curtail drinking because if all those arses that turn 21 and get wasted on alcohol cause now it's legal.

The anti-drug folks will try any tactic as their grip on the fear of people choosing their own fun slowly slips away.
 
2013-12-29 01:54:30 PM  

Crazy Lee: I'd suggest those farkers in WA/CO looking for `opportunities' in the ancillary market investigate Computerized Performance (impairment) Testing as a replacement for urine screens (potential to catch employees `impaired' for ANY reason and less invasive & more accurate measure of ability to perform job):

http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work


I know several companies that like to work their workers over 40 hours per week and regularly past 60. After 35 hours of work in a week, especially physically demanding work or in extreme heat or cold, no one would ever pass one of those tests. Fatigue is just as impairing or worse than any drug.

My opinion is if you have an accident at work, you are blood tested. If you are sober at the time, nothing happens. If you are impaired, you are sacked and no unemployment. Safety in industrial settings is very important, but what you do when off the clock is your business.

/places that work people past 40 hours regularly have more accidents
//also ones that have shifts longer than 8 hours
 
2013-12-29 01:56:29 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.


I've been around surveying/civil engineering for 25 years, almost everyone I've known uses the weed.
It helps tolerate all the hassles associated.
 
2013-12-29 01:56:36 PM  

wildcardjack: fark, this thread just keeps going on and on like a Grateful Dead song where they forgot how it ends so they keep on playing.


You forgot the lazy, forgetful and Doritos scarfing cliche in you weak troll attempt.

Hurr, hurr hippies.
 
2013-12-29 01:57:08 PM  
The highway between Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID is going to have so much trafficking. Not that it doesn't already...

/two universities within 7 miles of each other
 
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