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2013-12-29 08:18:26 AM  
I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone

/I know Colorado's gov is a stick in the mud on this
//don't know about Washington's
///ass, gas or grass; only slashies are for free
 
2013-12-29 09:40:57 AM  
It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.
 
2013-12-29 09:44:39 AM  
Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.
 
2013-12-29 10:26:08 AM  

BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.
 
2013-12-29 10:33:07 AM  
I've been looking into related stocks - seems like for the most part wall street has adopted a "wait and see" attitude.  There are a few companies out there listed but only one or two seem reasonably legit.  Nothing on the commonly traded markets - mostly OTC's.  I'm wondering if this will end up being like the gold rush in California - where the real people that get rich are the ones that work on selling the miners equipment, supplies and *cough* entertainment.
 
2013-12-29 11:29:21 AM  
Here in Denver, folks seem to be pretty quiet about the new retail environment for pot.  I tend to believe that people largely are not interested and those inclined to use cannabis have had ready access to the stuff for years and years.  Again, I really think most people don't care or are a bit wary of a possible increase in an already increasing number of knuckleheads and dumbassery, overtly and insidiously (with the latter think THC-laden gummy bears, etc.).

Among the people I know who have red cards for medical pot, they complain about how expensive it is.  The retail stuff is going to be expensive, too.  If all goes well, that will be a leveling factor without a doubt.

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid -- it's not like some tourists here aren't already stoned as they ski or board or stroll the 16th Street and Pearl Street Malls.  Local public radio stupidly tried to create an issue around the question ¨Where are tourists going to smoke their pot?¨, citing that one can't smoke in public or in one's hotel room, somehow imagining that no tourist ever got stoned before in Colorado.

As far as the possibility of anticipated ¨shortages¨ go, that's a bunch of nonsense.  I have no way of knowing for certain, but I have a feeling that supply will always far outweigh demand.  Any ¨shortage" will likely be artificial, created to jack up prices.
 
2013-12-29 11:34:51 AM  

Breaker Moran: Here in Denver, folks seem to be pretty quiet about the new retail environment for pot.  I tend to believe that people largely are not interested and those inclined to use cannabis have had ready access to the stuff for years and years.  Again, I really think most people don't care or are a bit wary of a possible increase in an already increasing number of knuckleheads and dumbassery, overtly and insidiously (with the latter think THC-laden gummy bears, etc.).

Among the people I know who have red cards for medical pot, they complain about how expensive it is.  The retail stuff is going to be expensive, too.  If all goes well, that will be a leveling factor without a doubt.

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid -- it's not like some tourists here aren't already stoned as they ski or board or stroll the 16th Street and Pearl Street Malls.  Local public radio stupidly tried to create an issue around the question ¨Where are tourists going to smoke their pot?¨, citing that one can't smoke in public or in one's hotel room, somehow imagining that no tourist ever got stoned before in Colorado.

As far as the possibility of anticipated ¨shortages¨ go, that's a bunch of nonsense.  I have no way of knowing for certain, but I have a feeling that supply will always far outweigh demand.  Any ¨shortage" will likely be artificial, created to jack up prices.


The one that cracks me up is the MADD-types who think that "now" there will be all sorts of stoners on the streets driving around all farked up. Sorry you farking head-up-your-ass morons, but we stoners have been driving that way for years - often lighting the bowl/spliff/blunt while driving.

Making pot legal is not going to make the roads any worse - conjure up a different scandal.
 
2013-12-29 11:37:56 AM  

BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


Most places can't do drug tests unless there is a accident, and a drug test is required per OSHAA.
However, here in Minnesota, if you are drunk or high, and get into an accident at work, if you test positive for drugs or alcohol and say "I need help" you can't get fired
 
2013-12-29 11:38:44 AM  

pueblonative: I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone


Hahaha.  "I bet this sticky icky and this family size bag of Funyuns against your blue cheeba and Costco-size bag of Cheetos!"
 
2013-12-29 11:40:47 AM  

pueblonative: I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone


upload.wikimedia.org

Let's just do it without crappy beer this time.
 
2013-12-29 11:44:07 AM  
You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?
 
2013-12-29 11:45:58 AM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.
 
2013-12-29 11:49:16 AM  

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.


Maybe it's just a reflection of how much of a loser I am; but even when I was in college I couldn't find a reliable source to buy weed.  Back then, I 'knew a guy' who sometimes had weed.  And he'd sometimes hook me up.  And a girl I knew, she had a cousin who would 'sometimes' come out to campus and he'd sometimes sell me some weed.  But I could never just dial a number and get some weed.  I would have gladly paid for it....I just never could find someone to sell it to me.

When I finished college it got 100x worse.  I moved cities and got a 'nice' job.  My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.  And once we started getting serious girlfriends and wives, the nights of closing out the bars turned into a few beers before calling it a night at 11pm on a Saturday.  I've had a few coworkers I've gotten along well with and even hung out with outside of work, but none that I suspect have weed or that would sell weed to me.

Admittedly, I've never tried THAT hard; but especially now, I have a lot more disposable income than I did when I was in college and I wouldn't think twice about the cost.  Ideally, I'd like a bunch of premade cookies/brownies and I'd probably want to get high 1-2 times per year.

If I were in Colorado and I could do it myself, I'd absolutely buy some weed.  But I don't want to deal with the headaches and risks associated with finding a reliable source and dealing with potentially getting busted.  So, maybe I'm the exception, but for me, that's an excellent reason to pick Colorado or Washington as a vacation destination.  I'm not much for travelling, but my wife is and CO has lots of nature stuff anyway.
 
2013-12-29 11:50:06 AM  
In basements throughout Washington and Colorado...
 
2013-12-29 11:50:18 AM  

my lip balm addiction: Breaker Moran: Here in Denver, folks seem to be pretty quiet about the new retail environment for pot.  I tend to believe that people largely are not interested and those inclined to use cannabis have had ready access to the stuff for years and years.  Again, I really think most people don't care or are a bit wary of a possible increase in an already increasing number of knuckleheads and dumbassery, overtly and insidiously (with the latter think THC-laden gummy bears, etc.).

Among the people I know who have red cards for medical pot, they complain about how expensive it is.  The retail stuff is going to be expensive, too.  If all goes well, that will be a leveling factor without a doubt.

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid -- it's not like some tourists here aren't already stoned as they ski or board or stroll the 16th Street and Pearl Street Malls.  Local public radio stupidly tried to create an issue around the question ¨Where are tourists going to smoke their pot?¨, citing that one can't smoke in public or in one's hotel room, somehow imagining that no tourist ever got stoned before in Colorado.

As far as the possibility of anticipated ¨shortages¨ go, that's a bunch of nonsense.  I have no way of knowing for certain, but I have a feeling that supply will always far outweigh demand.  Any ¨shortage" will likely be artificial, created to jack up prices.

The one that cracks me up is the MADD-types who think that "now" there will be all sorts of stoners on the streets driving around all farked up. Sorry you farking head-up-your-ass morons, but we stoners have been driving that way for years - often lighting the bowl/spliff/blunt while driving.

Making pot legal is not going to make the roads any worse - conjure up a different scandal.


Of course it's still a DUI
 
2013-12-29 11:50:49 AM  
Legal, illegal.. whatever. I'll smoke it anyway.
 
2013-12-29 11:50:59 AM  

Wadded Beef: pueblonative: I seriously want the Broncos and Seahawks to get to the Super Bowl just to see the governor's bet.  Cheeba bowl, anyone

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Let's just do it without crappy beer this time.


www.funnyandjokes.com


Also...

manmemes.com
 
2013-12-29 11:51:12 AM  
I need to learn to preview.
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2013-12-29 11:55:26 AM  

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.


I could be wrong, but you are probably young and have connections like I did back in the day, or are lucky enough to live somewhere where you've established safe connections.

I can't afford to shiat where I eat. Having lost all my connections when I moved across the country to take my first real job, I have essentially been dry for the past decade plus. I'm too old to be doing the stupid weed dance where you bring it up in conversation and see what kind of reaction you get, and I don't have connections with the locals not affiliated with my workplace. Not worth the risk, and I don't need it, I just absolutely love it.

I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.

I am a patient person. I have relatives in Maine where legalization looks imminent, and my work regularly brings me to Colorado. For now, I just feel a warm sense of satisfaction that sometime in the not too distant future (after the smoke clears from the initial cacophony that will undoubtedly arise when demand exceeds supply; I envision long lines outside of dispensaries the morning of 1/1/14 in CO), I will be able to walk into a store, choose a gram or two of a couple different strains, and enjoy not only a buzz, but finally being able to pick and choose strains that suit my mood. To this day I have no idea whether I've smoked Northern Lights, or White Widow, or whatever. It's like blind sampling microbrews and macrobrews, all in clear nondescript bottles.
 
2013-12-29 11:56:11 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I moved cities and got a 'nice' job. My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.


Volunteer at Folk Festivals, or in your local blues/singer-songwriter community.
 
2013-12-29 11:56:28 AM  

what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.



I partook when I was younger---before getting married and having kids---but haven't touched the stuff since (though there have been many occasions where I would have loved to have had some pot on hand...kids do that to you).

The primary reason I've not smoked any is because it's illegal and I have a lot to lose now (e.g., my job and a child) if something happened and I got arrested/convicted for pot.  It's just not worth the risk to me.

However, if pot were legal here in Georgia, yeah, I'd smoke again.  In a heartbeat.
 
2013-12-29 11:57:29 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.

Maybe it's just a reflection of how much of a loser I am; but even when I was in college I couldn't find a reliable source to buy weed.  Back then, I 'knew a guy' who sometimes had weed.  And he'd sometimes hook me up.  And a girl I knew, she had a cousin who would 'sometimes' come out to campus and he'd sometimes sell me some weed.  But I could never just dial a number and get some weed.  I would have gladly paid for it....I just never could find someone to sell it to me.

When I finished college it got 100x worse.  I moved cities and got a 'nice' job.  My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.  And once we started getting serious girlfriends and wives, the nights of closing out the bars turned into a few beers before calling it a night at 11pm on a Saturday.  I've had a few coworkers I've gotten along well with and even hung out with outside of work, but none that I suspect have weed or that would sell weed to me.

Admittedly, I've never tried THAT hard; but especially now, I have a lot more disposable income than I did when I was in college and I wouldn't think twice about the cost.  Ideally, I'd like a bunch of premade cookies/brownies and I'd probably want to get high 1-2 times per year.

If I were in Colorado and I could do it myself, I'd absolutely buy some weed.  But I don't want to deal with the headaches and risks associated with finding a reliable source and dealing with potentially getting busted.  So, maybe I'm the exception, but for me, that's an excellent reason to pick Colorado or Washington as a vacation destination.  I'm not much for travelling, but my wife is and CO has lots of nature stuff anyway.


I guess it's just how much of a loser you are.

I don't smoke weed, it makes me really nauseous.  (Yes, I know that's not normal, but it is a documented effect for a small percentage of the population.)

But I could make a phone call and get it delivered if I wanted some.  And depending on who I called, I could probably get a free beej with the weed.  And I'm nowhere near CO or WA.
 
2013-12-29 12:01:13 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.
 
2013-12-29 12:01:46 PM  
DarkVader:

But I could make a phone call and get it delivered if I wanted some.  And depending on who I called, I could probably get a free beej with the weed.  And I'm nowhere near CO or WA.

"A free beej" from a herpes-ridden thug named Rufus does not impress me.
 
2013-12-29 12:02:26 PM  
Yeah, but Rufus DOES have a purty mouth, eh.
 
2013-12-29 12:02:36 PM  

EngineerAU: You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?


when Smoking, the high generally kicks in five to ten minutes after smoking and lasts an hour or two,
when eating the high kicks in after thirty minutes to an hour and can last 6 to 8 hours.

Also most people I know who have a "freakout" are eating it for the first time,  don't feel the effects quick enough and eat some more and by the time it fully kicks in they have over done it and flip out.
 
2013-12-29 12:02:40 PM  
b0rscht:
I could be wrong, but you are probably young and have connections like I did back in the day, or are lucky enough to live somewhere where you've established safe connections.

I can't afford to shiat where I eat. Having lost all my connections when I moved across the country to take my first real job, I have essentially been dry for the past decade plus. I'm too old to be doing the stupid weed dance where you bring it up in conversation and see what kind of reaction you get, and I don't have connections with the locals not affiliated with my workplace. Not worth the risk, and I don't need it, I just absolutely love it.

I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.



^ So much THIS.
 
2013-12-29 12:05:16 PM  

EngineerAU: You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?


All I can say to this is, my ex-gf gave me some chocolate one time, and I was sky high, never touch that again, could have been strong dose, not sure. I certainly couldn't tell when I ate it.
 
2013-12-29 12:05:27 PM  
I look forward to the Nebraska state patrol putting up drug sniffing dog sign check points and watching people pulling off in the middle of nowhere.  That's when they get you.  If you're stupid enough to transport it, you'll be stupid enough to fall for it -- even with this heads up!!!

Thank you in advance for keeping our taxes low!!!
 
2013-12-29 12:07:28 PM  
Furthermore, it will be interesting to see what the effect of legalization will have on alcohol sales. In the rare times where I have managed to get a bit, my beer consumption has essentially evaporated. They call this "substitution". And I love beer. I just prefer a weed buzz to a beer buzz and no longer mix them like I did in college when I'd get super wasted on a semi-regular basis. Weed is for my waistline as well - the higher quality bud doesn't give me the munchies like the Mexican brick stuff did; or it could just be that my metabolism has changed as I've gotten older.
 
2013-12-29 12:08:50 PM  
Settle down, things will get NORML
 
2013-12-29 12:08:53 PM  

Mean Daddy: I look forward to the Nebraska state patrol putting up drug sniffing dog sign check points and watching people pulling off in the middle of nowhere.  That's when they get you.  If you're stupid enough to transport it, you'll be stupid enough to fall for it -- even with this heads up!!!

Thank you in advance for keeping our taxes low!!!


It will leave the state, mark my word. They can't open every damned package that leaves the state, nor can they stop every damned car. Occasionally people will get busted as they do today, but the vast vast majority will make its way through; there really is no way around this without essentially destroying Colorado/Washington's economy.
 
2013-12-29 12:09:42 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


In my experience, private sector employers very rarely drug test outside of initial employment screenings or tests after workplace accidents.  If you're working some random call center job or fast food or retail and your boss suddenly wants you to pee in a cup, he's just looking for an excuse to fire you.  Those tests cost money to perform, so they don't want to spend the money unless they must.  Cost/benefit analysis and all that.

Public sector work, especially public safety stuff like police, fire and military?  Yeah, you'll get piss tested a few times a year randomly, just expect it.  They don't want you being responsible for the lives of others if they think you'll be stoned when the excrement impacts the rotary ventilator.
 
2013-12-29 12:13:21 PM  
Not sure I'll bother to drive across the river for legal weed. Delivery guy is coming tomorrow. Unless they can beat his price, why drive across town?
 
2013-12-29 12:15:00 PM  
CSB time/

I live north of Denver, and was returning from xmas vacation back east on Friday.  On the plane from Dallas I heard no less than six people discussing how they were thinking about extending their vacations, or glad that their trip went past new years just so they could buy legal weed.

The general feeling I get is that Coloradoans are are going to be Coloradoans.  Which is to say, the entire state is full of "do what you want just don't bug me" individuals.  So long as people don't start becoming a nuisance then we couldn't possibly care less.

/now having an influx of Texans, that'll drive any of us crazy.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-29 12:19:12 PM  
I have a feeling that the phrase "odor of marijuana" will be in several future police reports.
 
2013-12-29 12:19:20 PM  

BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.


fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.
 
2013-12-29 12:19:58 PM  

Silverstaff: Public sector work, especially public safety stuff like police, fire and military? Yeah, you'll get piss tested a few times a year randomly, just expect it. They don't want you being responsible for the lives of others if they think you'll be stoned when the excrement impacts the rotary ventilator.


And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?
 
2013-12-29 12:22:25 PM  

doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.


How so?
 
2013-12-29 12:23:07 PM  

FizixJunkee: b0rscht:
I could be wrong, but you are probably young and have connections like I did back in the day, or are lucky enough to live somewhere where you've established safe connections.

I can't afford to shiat where I eat. Having lost all my connections when I moved across the country to take my first real job, I have essentially been dry for the past decade plus. I'm too old to be doing the stupid weed dance where you bring it up in conversation and see what kind of reaction you get, and I don't have connections with the locals not affiliated with my workplace. Not worth the risk, and I don't need it, I just absolutely love it.

I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.


^ So much THIS.


Yep, me too.
 
2013-12-29 12:23:45 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


And mj tourists are just the sort of yokels he'd want to be rid of.
 
2013-12-29 12:23:46 PM  
Very few places are actually going to be able to sell it on January 1st. Fortunately, I know of one just a few miles away that will be opening its doors at 7 am.
I plan on getting there at around 6 am. Not that I need the weed, I probably have a three month supply on hand right now.
I just want to be able to post a picture of my receipt on Facebook to piss off friends in other States.
 
2013-12-29 12:25:41 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.


I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.
 
2013-12-29 12:25:46 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.


Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.
 
2013-12-29 12:25:50 PM  
I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.
 
2013-12-29 12:25:52 PM  
It's no fun anymore if you don't feel you're doing something wrong.
 
2013-12-29 12:27:13 PM  

DarkVader: Fark_Guy_Rob: what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.

Maybe it's just a reflection of how much of a loser I am; but even when I was in college I couldn't find a reliable source to buy weed.  Back then, I 'knew a guy' who sometimes had weed.  And he'd sometimes hook me up.  And a girl I knew, she had a cousin who would 'sometimes' come out to campus and he'd sometimes sell me some weed.  But I could never just dial a number and get some weed.  I would have gladly paid for it....I just never could find someone to sell it to me.

When I finished college it got 100x worse.  I moved cities and got a 'nice' job.  My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.  And once we started getting serious girlfriends and wives, the nights of closing out the bars turned into a few beers before calling it a night at 11pm on a Saturday.  I've had a few coworkers I've gotten along well with and even hung out with outside of work, but none that I suspect have weed or that would sell weed to me.

Admittedly, I've never tried THAT hard; but especially now, I have a lot more disposable income than I did when I was in college and I wouldn't think twice about the cost.  Ideally, I'd like a bunch of premade cookies/brownies and I'd probably want to get high 1-2 times per year.

If I were in Colorado and I could do it myself, I'd absolutely buy some weed.  But I don't want to deal with the headaches and risks associated with finding a reliable source and dealing with potentially getting busted.  So, maybe I'm the exception, but for me, that's an excellent reason to pick Colorado or Washington as a vacation destination.  I'm not much for travelling, but my wife is and CO has lots of nature stuff anyway.

I guess it's just how much of a loser you are.

I don't smoke weed, it makes me really nauseous.  (Yes, I know that's not normal, but it is a documented effect for a small percentage of the population.)

But I could make a phone call and get it delivered if I wanted some.  And depending on who I called, I could probably get a free beej with the weed.  And I'm nowhere near CO or WA.


U R totes kool# :)!!!
 
2013-12-29 12:28:28 PM  

me texan: I've been looking into related stocks - seems like for the most part wall street has adopted a "wait and see" attitude.  There are a few companies out there listed but only one or two seem reasonably legit.  Nothing on the commonly traded markets - mostly OTC's.  I'm wondering if this will end up being like the gold rush in California - where the real people that get rich are the ones that work on selling the miners equipment, supplies and *cough* entertainment.


I bet they have the coolest and best attended stockholders meetings.  "Yeah, I propose that the company.....ah....Oh wow man, I forgot what I was gonna say....again.
 
2013-12-29 12:29:14 PM  
I quit smoking in my 20s because it gave me a headache, and I finally decided the headache wasn't worth the high.

CSB.  When I was a teen working at a restaurant one of my co-workers brought in a batch of brownies he'd cooked at home.  Very nice stuff.  Our baker was a very nice lady in her 60s or 70s.  After a bit we heard her singing "Oh I wish I were an Oscar Meyer Weiner" as she baked.  I went to Mike and asked "did you give her a brownie?".  "She saw me eating one and asked if she could have one.  What was I supposed to say?".

She never said a word about it.

/ Story took place in 74/75
// Haven't taken a hit in over 30 years
/// dang I'm old
 
2013-12-29 12:30:13 PM  

pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.


No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.
 
2013-12-29 12:30:19 PM  

b0rscht: DarkVader:

But I could make a phone call and get it delivered if I wanted some.  And depending on who I called, I could probably get a free beej with the weed.  And I'm nowhere near CO or WA.

"A free beej" from a herpes-ridden thug named Rufus does not impress me.


Iwas going to go with "400-lb convict named Mother," but I see you have that covered.
 
2013-12-29 12:40:15 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.


I meant in terms of HR and recruiting.  Places that have a plethora of qualified clients will probably have more leeway in drug tests than those that are just places for warm bodies that do care if they are still making minimum wage in five to ten years.  And security and OSHA clearances would probably fall into the first category.


bhcompy: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.


If you have a job where you do public safety and/or has security clearance and come in smelling like cheeba, odds are you should be fired along with whoever hired you in the first place.  Of course you should be fired if you come in smelling like vodak or with a couple of empty pill bottles in your pockets as well.
 
2013-12-29 12:41:18 PM  

pueblonative: Places that have a plethora of qualified clients

employees

FTFM
 
2013-12-29 12:44:22 PM  

Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?


Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.
 
2013-12-29 12:44:44 PM  

b0rscht: I am only one point on the graph, but I have to believe that there is a large, silent group of folks like me out there who would happily smoke regularly if they could get it without having to worry about getting a criminal record and ruining their lives, throwing away their careers, etc.


And I am another point on that same graph right there with you.

True story time: while walking a month or so ago, I found a small bag of pot. Seriously. Have been hanging on to it without consumption, mostly because I'm in the job hunt and can't afford to fail a test.

When I get my next job, I'm going to be talking to the union rep about testing, because Colorado is a potential vacation for other reasons, but you can bet I'll be enjoying that benefit as well (if i won't lose my job).
 
2013-12-29 12:45:00 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.


This is true.  I was the office manager for Land Surveying/Civil Eng. firm and the owners used say we could only seem to hire ex-cons as surveyors because they were the only ones who could pass the random DOT mandated drug tests.  We did a lot of gas pipeline work.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:01 PM  

pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

Some places do random tests. I've lost plenty of people to randoms.

Sounds like a place where you can afford to lose them.  On the other end, I've seen places where half the workforce smells like they just shot a cheech and chong movie.  Interestingly enough they're all low wage places.  I doubt they're going to be doing that much random testing.

No, I've lost some otherwise good employees to randoms and post-accident tests. Honestly though, if you know in your job that you're going to randomly tested, you know it's just a matter of time until you lose your job.
As the saying goes, I've never fired anybody, I just do the paperwork. They get themselves fired.

I meant in terms of HR and recruiting.  Places that have a plethora of qualified clients will probably have more leeway in drug tests than those that are just places for warm bodies that do care if they are still making minimum wage in five to ten years.  And security and OSHA clearances would probably fall into the first category.


bhcompy: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I see you don't have a job with public safety or that requires a security clearance.

If you have a job where you do public safety and/or has security clearance and come in smelling like cheeba, odds are you should be fired along with whoever hired you in the first place.  Of course you should be f ...


What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.
Interestingly enough, this was when I worked in Colorado. Even when it's legal, if you have an accident while operating a 16-ton 40-foot long bus, the law says you're going to be drug tested. And if it's positive, you're going to lose your job.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:29 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


Tried, and went down in Colorado.

It's still illegal according to the Federal law.

Now, I'd wonder how a discrimination suit would proceed if a minority got tested and claimed that all the whites were baked out of their minds.
 
2013-12-29 12:46:32 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


This is not true.  Not at all.
 
2013-12-29 12:47:54 PM  

Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.


i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).
 
2013-12-29 12:50:30 PM  

peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.


If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

www.biography.com
 
2013-12-29 12:53:41 PM  

iron_city_ap: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.


(In best scruffy voice ) second
 
2013-12-29 12:55:53 PM  
Already read another story on one of the local television sites about this. They interviewed a deputy from Texas County (I think) in the panhandle and he had no issue with revealing his department's plan to set up checkpoints at the Oklahoma /Colorado line and he made no bones about the influx of potential revenue. With our state though as strapped for cash as they are I can see them changing the law to raise fines so after the county got their cut they would get a chunk to. After all I heard that the federal government (the DOT part) approached Oklahoma ' s DPS and will now offer $25 for EVERY commercial vehicle pulled over. So now OHP is sending their non DOT troopers through training to know what to check for when stopping a truck or bus (besides obvious violations)
 
2013-12-29 12:56:43 PM  

pueblonative: Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.

i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).


I see what you mean. As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.
 
2013-12-29 12:58:02 PM  

Oldiron_79: iron_city_ap: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Remember boys and girls.  Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

if you're boss is planning a drug test odds were he wanted to fire your ass anyway, but is too cheap to pay unemployment.

I get random tests at work. Until it gets legalized at the federal level, I'm s.o.l.

(In best scruffy voice ) second


I'm guessing the Federal levels the next stop after a couple of years when Washington and Colorado turn out not to have descended into Sodom and Gomorrah for legalizing the sticky bud.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:01 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.

This is not true.  Not at all.


Not true to your not true; I work in a shop with specialized, reasonably well-paid tradesmen. EVERYONE gets baked. Boss man looks the other way, knowing that failed drug tests would decimate his workforce/bottom line.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:15 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.


Totally Obligatory, man.
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-29 12:59:28 PM  

Bob Falfa: pueblonative: Bob Falfa: What do you mean by "leeway in drug tests"? How is there leeway? I know how expensive it is to replace people, but 99% of the ones I lost to drug tests were bus drivers. 100% of my employees had to be able to drive safely, even if it was just cars.

i.e. the job has nothing to do with public safety or clearance.  Taco Bells, non driving jobs (call centers, etc).

I see what you mean. As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


Exactly, and I'm guessing those places also pay better than the minimum wage places.
 
2013-12-29 12:59:43 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.

If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


Yes every company has Keith Moon.
There are certain fields that require random drug tests, fortunately (or maybe unfortunately in his case) rock drummer is not one of them
 
2013-12-29 01:01:57 PM  
The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.
 
2013-12-29 01:02:55 PM  
Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.
 
2013-12-29 01:03:35 PM  
The best remedy still appears to be R2-45
 
2013-12-29 01:04:03 PM  

peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests


None of them any good.
 
2013-12-29 01:06:14 PM  

hammettman: Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.


Cross the border and violate federal and state law and get charged with intent to distribute.  Seems risky.
 
2013-12-29 01:07:42 PM  

hammettman: Subby has pointed out a big dilemma.  There are many of us who have not smoked weed for awhile (like, decades) and while partaking in CO and WA may wet the whistle, it sure would be nice to buy a bodacious bag and just bring it on home.  And no matter how good one thinks they can hide something in a car, the smelling power on the nose of a drug sniffing dog is something to behold. Border checkpoints will be huge revenue generators.   Cue the internet, which will no doubt publish alternate routes to take out of these states to avoid the main checkpoints.  Good times ahead.


Sounds like this guy will be selling a shiat ton of DVDs:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14470003


/better method is legalization in your home state
//or federal repeal
///slashies, treys, that sorta thing
 
2013-12-29 01:08:15 PM  

bmwericus: The real laugh in all of this is that all that is coming next month is legal retail sales.  The weed itself has been legal just under a year now and yet, somehow, life goes on.

No hordes of zombies have stormed any cities, no carnage on the highways apart from the usual drunks, no killings, no wierd deaths.  It's like they threw a big hissy fit and nothing happened.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, live in Colorado and well, I don't answer to anyone for my life - that is to say, I don't work for a living, so no one tells me how to live.

I have not seen any more cannabis than usual in the last year apart from being invited to a victory party at the local dispensery owners house after we won a local election to require the town to sell.

I repeat for those of you just tuning in:

Weed has been legalized, world fails to end, life goes on.  Thanks for tuning in, and goodnight.


Yes, and the part that makes me want to punch many faces repeatedly is that is has always been this way and we could have done this decades ago with the same big nothing to follow.

Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ones that deserve this characterization. Goddamm their puffy ageing douchebag faces.
 
2013-12-29 01:09:45 PM  

doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.


There are companies that ban employees smoking tobacco products completely, including at home when you're not at work.  If they do a test and show nicotine in your bloodstream, you're out.

This is the kind of shiat that happens when you allow unions to be decimated.  Without anyone fighting for the rights of the worker, the bosses are having a field day stripping away as many personal freedoms from employees as they can as long as it improves the bottom line a bit.
 
2013-12-29 01:11:20 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.


Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.
 
2013-12-29 01:11:45 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-12-29 01:13:54 PM  
Ricky, Julian and Bubbles are seen planning their next vacation - to Colorado.
 
2013-12-29 01:14:38 PM  

Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.


I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.
 
2013-12-29 01:16:37 PM  
I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.
 
2013-12-29 01:17:04 PM  
Breaker Moran:

I think the idea of pot tourism is rather stupid

www.mnn.com
 
2013-12-29 01:21:09 PM  

FizixJunkee: Bob Falfa: As I said, running a rental car company means 100% of employees are subject to randoms. Even the folks in the back offices can be called upon to drive company owned vehicles at any time.

I worked at Enterprise Rent-a-Car for a while in the "back offices" and I don't think I ever had to take a pee test.


I'll bet if you were involved in an accident while operating a company vehicle you'd have been tested.
 
2013-12-29 01:21:40 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: I was up at Beaver Creek yesterday. Every single out-of-state person I shared a chairlift with asked me about legal weed. I told them all the same thing. It's always been legal in Colorado, it's just now we're giving the state its share of taxes.


"Always been legal in Colorado"? Do you make a regular habit out of lying to people you meet on chairlifts?
 
2013-12-29 01:23:21 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.


The highest paying branch of science? Dirt science. You drive to farms, test soil, recommend ways to improve quality. It's retardedly easy chemistry with pre-made kits and the athleticism of long haul trucking. Go get 'em tiger.
 
2013-12-29 01:25:49 PM  
I'd suggest those farkers in WA/CO looking for `opportunities' in the ancillary market investigate Computerized Performance (impairment) Testing as a replacement for urine screens (potential to catch employees `impaired' for ANY reason and less invasive & more accurate measure of ability to perform job):

http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
 
2013-12-29 01:25:53 PM  

b0rscht: Somewhat ironically, it has been the biggest proponents of legalization that have hindered it the most. A bunch of (stereotypical) drum circle hairy hippies blathering on about how hemp will save the world, man, painted a very distorted picture of the kind of person that would actually benefit most from legalization. It has only been recently with the medical movement (which has always been somewhat of a joke, at least for 90% of the "patients" - the other 10% desperately need it) until "normal" people have been the face of legal weed. Finally, it has just been the march of time that has allowed this to happen. It's too bad that the same Boomers who smoked the shiat like it was going out of style turned into asshole coke-snorting yuppies, and finally douchebag parents who started stupid shiat like DARE. Yes, I'm being unfair to most people from that generation with this generalization, but goddamm the ...


I dunno, seems to me that the LEO community, the TurnKey's [jailers, prison guards], judges, lawyers and the "Drug Rehab Centers" have been the biggest winners in the "War on Drugs", which for Cannabis, cost us 7.7 Billion Bucks last year alone [I pulled that figure off the internet, was for 2012 for pot ONLY, did not include all other drug wars].

The use of Civil seizures alone accounts for such an addictive level of MONEY to the Policeeece forces that it's impossible for them to wean themselves of their drug money.

Sure, the stereotype of stoner works against us, but I worked for 35 years, spent 20 years with one company alone, founded my own company and then sold that to retire at a very young age.

And I did it all while getting high on weed and for many years a functional drunk - gave up the Ethanol a long time ago, much happier.  There's a lot of normal looking people who blow thru a lot of grass, like every single Architect I ever worked with - sometimes you got baked to come up with new designs, sometimes you got baked to swallow the stupid ideas of the owner - who gets what he wants while you grind your teeth...

And yea, I have minor concerns about 'former users' coming to CO for a vacation and getting ahold of some of the stiffer grades of weed on the street - it's no Kansas Diesel anymore - and getting baked wildly, but for now, out of state visitors are limited to 7 grams per purchase, AKA a quarter oz.  Enough to have fun, probably not enough to do serious damage I guess.

Frankly, at high altitude, the booze will fark you up right away too so if you come, I suggest you stick with one or the other at a time - like a few puffs before you hit the mountain, then beers and booze lightly in the evening, but don't mix 'em or one of our finest WILL be scraping you off the ground.
 
2013-12-29 01:29:52 PM  
As a Colorado resident currently farking while smoking homegrown, legal weed- I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
kth
2013-12-29 01:30:20 PM  
The real trick will be to make sure we don't accidentally put the baked goods away in the kitchen at my parents' condo next time we're out there.

Although, my mother on drugs would be funny.
 
2013-12-29 01:30:39 PM  

DarkVader: I don't smoke weed, it makes me really nauseous. (Yes, I know that's not normal, but it is a documented effect for a small percentage of the population.)


Same here. Handful of times I tried it made me sick to my stomach. Don't like it and don't like what it does to me. C'est la vie.

But I live in Vancouver, where weed practically grows wild. Throw a rock in any direction and hit five weed dealers. It's like being lactose intolerant and stuck in the land of chocolate.

/mmmmm...land of chocolate...
 
2013-12-29 01:31:46 PM  
bmwmericus, agreed, I just wanted to make the point that there is a not so subtle distinction between something not succeeding due to the behavior of proponents vs. something not succeeding due to behavior of detractors. And money corrupts everything. More irony (to me anyways) is that many medical growers/dispensaries are opposed to outright legalization because they fear it will cut into their own bottom line, ostensibly because there will be much more competition (especially if it scales up like with alcohol). As I said, money corrupts everything.
 
2013-12-29 01:36:47 PM  
fark, this thread just keeps going on and on like a Grateful Dead song where they forgot how it ends so they keep on playing.
 
2013-12-29 01:41:42 PM  

doglover: peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.

The highest paying branch of science? Dirt science. You drive to farms, test soil, recommend ways to improve quality. It's retardedly easy chemistry with pre-made kits and the athleticism of long haul trucking. Go get 'em tiger.


Rowr :)
 
2013-12-29 01:45:29 PM  
It's like Amsterdam without the smelly Eurotrash.
 
2013-12-29 01:46:03 PM  
So the new talking point is "oh, we best watch out for all the people that can't handle it trying now because it's legal"?

Boy, I sure hope they don't curtail drinking because if all those arses that turn 21 and get wasted on alcohol cause now it's legal.

The anti-drug folks will try any tactic as their grip on the fear of people choosing their own fun slowly slips away.
 
2013-12-29 01:54:30 PM  

Crazy Lee: I'd suggest those farkers in WA/CO looking for `opportunities' in the ancillary market investigate Computerized Performance (impairment) Testing as a replacement for urine screens (potential to catch employees `impaired' for ANY reason and less invasive & more accurate measure of ability to perform job):

http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work


I know several companies that like to work their workers over 40 hours per week and regularly past 60. After 35 hours of work in a week, especially physically demanding work or in extreme heat or cold, no one would ever pass one of those tests. Fatigue is just as impairing or worse than any drug.

My opinion is if you have an accident at work, you are blood tested. If you are sober at the time, nothing happens. If you are impaired, you are sacked and no unemployment. Safety in industrial settings is very important, but what you do when off the clock is your business.

/places that work people past 40 hours regularly have more accidents
//also ones that have shifts longer than 8 hours
 
2013-12-29 01:56:29 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.


I've been around surveying/civil engineering for 25 years, almost everyone I've known uses the weed.
It helps tolerate all the hassles associated.
 
2013-12-29 01:56:36 PM  

wildcardjack: fark, this thread just keeps going on and on like a Grateful Dead song where they forgot how it ends so they keep on playing.


You forgot the lazy, forgetful and Doritos scarfing cliche in you weak troll attempt.

Hurr, hurr hippies.
 
2013-12-29 01:57:08 PM  
The highway between Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID is going to have so much trafficking. Not that it doesn't already...

/two universities within 7 miles of each other
 
2013-12-29 02:04:20 PM  

doofusss: peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: There are certain fields that require random drug tests

None of them any good.

Here in Washington State Land Surveying is extremely well paid.  As far as being "good", they work nine months out of the year and spend the winter months hunting and fishing.  I've known many of them and they wouldn't trade it for anything.

I've been around surveying/civil engineering for 25 years, almost everyone I've known uses the weed.
It helps tolerate all the hassles associated.


After the Olympic Pipeline disaster in the nineties, any company involved in gas pipeline work has to random drug test, even the owners who never go into the field.  Sucks, I know.  Good thing they never tested the admins. in the office or I'd have been in treatment or out on my ass.
 
2013-12-29 02:10:49 PM  
www.ksbw.com

www.gannett-cdn.com

bc.ctvnews.ca

marijuanagrowtube.com

www.cambridgeusa.org

blogs.westword.com

www.coloradogreentours.com

www.cannachannel.org

alannaheames.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-29 02:23:27 PM  

peacheslatour: doglover: peacheslatour: This is not true. Not at all.

If you're an expendable, you can be fired. If you're truly indispensable....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

Yes every company has Keith Moon.
There are certain fields that require random drug tests, fortunately (or maybe unfortunately in his case) rock drummer is not one of them


Well, the Stones kicked Brian Jones out of the band because of drug issues.  Yeah, let that sink in for a while.
 
2013-12-29 02:29:00 PM  

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A realistic picture for me would be a middle aged dude with a small pipe standing in the bathroom with the exhaust fan on so his wife doesn't get pissed at the smell, followed by an hour or two of web-surfing and music-listening.
 
2013-12-29 02:29:18 PM  
peacheslatour:

After the Olympic Pipeline disaster in the nineties, any company involved in gas pipeline work has to random drug test, even the owners who never go into the field.  Sucks, I know.  Good thing they never tested the admins. in the office or I'd have been in treatment or out on my ass.

Around here the office personnel have been known to walk the walk during initial project approval period and then send in the lowly chiefs to do the actual work on certain projects that have screening for terrible, terrible druggies.
 
2013-12-29 02:33:01 PM  

me texan: I've been looking into related stocks - seems like for the most part wall street has adopted a "wait and see" attitude.  There are a few companies out there listed but only one or two seem reasonably legit.  Nothing on the commonly traded markets - mostly OTC's.  I'm wondering if this will end up being like the gold rush in California - where the real people that get rich are the ones that work on selling the miners equipment, supplies and *cough* entertainment.


I bet they have the best, most well attended stockholder meeting EVAR!  The CEO, opening the meeting, "I propose that we....(giggling)....oh wow man, I forgot what I was going to say...again."
 
2013-12-29 02:37:04 PM  

Zizzowop: EngineerAU: You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?

All I can say to this is, my ex-gf gave me some chocolate one time, and I was sky high, never touch that again, could have been strong dose, not sure. I certainly couldn't tell when I ate it.


I've heard that the way to do it is to simmer the MJ in butter slowly.  Then use the butter to cook things like brownies, cookies, cakes, etc.  Maybe shrimp scampi?
 
2013-12-29 02:40:58 PM  
Uhm, aren't border checkpoints BLATANTLY unconstitutional? Or are we just not gonna worry about that?
 
2013-12-29 02:42:01 PM  

FnkyTwn: I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.


Really? You should visit the west coast sometime. No need to hit WA; OR or CA are fine. I can assure you that people here are not worried about the illegality of smoking a bit of weed.

I can certainly understand concern in other states that aren't as libertarian about mj, but people here don't get worked up about it.
 
2013-12-29 02:45:08 PM  

doofusss: peacheslatour:

After the Olympic Pipeline disaster in the nineties, any company involved in gas pipeline work has to random drug test, even the owners who never go into the field.  Sucks, I know.  Good thing they never tested the admins. in the office or I'd have been in treatment or out on my ass.

Around here the office personnel have been known to walk the walk during initial project approval period and then send in the lowly chiefs to do the actual work on certain projects that have screening for terrible, terrible druggies.


Oh, yeah.  Gotta get those contracts somehow.  I noticed they only checked the Principals once a year or so, but the chain men and party chiefs much more frequently. Before new hires were out in the field they would frequently be allowed to "study" for their UA's before being officially on the payroll.
 
2013-12-29 02:45:29 PM  

DarkVader: Fark_Guy_Rob: what_now: It's not like its hard to get pot anywhere else.

I really don't think people will travel very far for legal pot.

Maybe it's just a reflection of how much of a loser I am; but even when I was in college I couldn't find a reliable source to buy weed.  Back then, I 'knew a guy' who sometimes had weed.  And he'd sometimes hook me up.  And a girl I knew, she had a cousin who would 'sometimes' come out to campus and he'd sometimes sell me some weed.  But I could never just dial a number and get some weed.  I would have gladly paid for it....I just never could find someone to sell it to me.

When I finished college it got 100x worse.  I moved cities and got a 'nice' job.  My friends were all nerdy types and while we had accepted that drinking was fun, nobody talked about weed.  And once we started getting serious girlfriends and wives, the nights of closing out the bars turned into a few beers before calling it a night at 11pm on a Saturday.  I've had a few coworkers I've gotten along well with and even hung out with outside of work, but none that I suspect have weed or that would sell weed to me.

Admittedly, I've never tried THAT hard; but especially now, I have a lot more disposable income than I did when I was in college and I wouldn't think twice about the cost.  Ideally, I'd like a bunch of premade cookies/brownies and I'd probably want to get high 1-2 times per year.

If I were in Colorado and I could do it myself, I'd absolutely buy some weed.  But I don't want to deal with the headaches and risks associated with finding a reliable source and dealing with potentially getting busted.  So, maybe I'm the exception, but for me, that's an excellent reason to pick Colorado or Washington as a vacation destination.  I'm not much for travelling, but my wife is and CO has lots of nature stuff anyway.

I guess it's just how much of a loser you are.

I don't smoke weed, it makes me really nauseous.  (Yes, I know that's not normal, but it is a document ...


Yeah - it sounds like it.  Myself and my friends were not the kind of guys who were ever a phone call away from a blowjob - unless we'd called a hooker.

In grade school they always made it sound like people would come up and TRY to give me drugs.  :(
 
2013-12-29 02:45:46 PM  

stewbert: FnkyTwn: I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.

Really? You should visit the west coast sometime. No need to hit WA; OR or CA are fine. I can assure you that people here are not worried about the illegality of smoking a bit of weed.

I can certainly understand concern in other states that aren't as libertarian about mj, but people here don't get worked up about it.


It is true - especially in the coastal neighborhoods. People walk around, smoking cannabis freely, and no one gets upset.

/coffee and cannabis
 
2013-12-29 02:47:27 PM  

standardeviation: CSB time/

I live north of Denver, and was returning from xmas vacation back east on Friday.  On the plane from Dallas I heard no less than six people discussing how they were thinking about extending their vacations, or glad that their trip went past new years just so they could buy legal weed.

The general feeling I get is that Coloradoans are are going to be Coloradoans.  Which is to say, the entire state is full of "do what you want just don't bug me" individuals.  So long as people don't start becoming a nuisance then we couldn't possibly care less.

/now having an influx of Texans, that'll drive any of us crazy.


Where I live was part of the Republic of Texas for almost ten years.

/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas
//I really like the Republic of Texas
 
2013-12-29 02:50:05 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: stewbert: FnkyTwn: I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.

Really? You should visit the west coast sometime. No need to hit WA; OR or CA are fine. I can assure you that people here are not worried about the illegality of smoking a bit of weed.

I can certainly understand concern in other states that aren't as libertarian about mj, but people here don't get worked up about it.

It is true - especially in the coastal neighborhoods. People walk around, smoking cannabis freely, and no one gets upset.

/coffee and cannabis


I prefer to be a discreet pot smoker, but it is not uncommon to go for a walk and smell it walking just about anywhere in my neighborhood.
 
2013-12-29 02:50:15 PM  
Will be paying very close attention to what happens with the neighboring states, and reports of arrests, checkpoints and so forth.

/got a week of vacation in 2014 I haven't earmarked for anything yet.
 
2013-12-29 02:52:36 PM  

pueblonative: doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.

Tried, and went down in Colorado.

It's still illegal according to the Federal law.

Now, I'd wonder how a discrimination suit would proceed if a minority got tested and claimed that all the whites were baked out of their minds.


Yeah, there was a case earlier this year in Colorado.  The guy worked in a call center and had some sort of disability due to an accident years ago and had a MMJ card.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23104820/colorado-appeals-court-oks-fir in g-off-duty-marijuana

The guy was a quadriplegic who worked for Dish Netowrk.
 
2013-12-29 02:55:59 PM  

base935: As a Colorado resident currently farking while smoking homegrown, legal weed- I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.


DAMN YOU!!!11!!!!

/shakes tiny fists of rage
 
2013-12-29 03:03:18 PM  

gfid: pueblonative: doglover: Bob Falfa: doglover: BizarreMan: Even though it's legal where you vacation doesn't mean your boss won't fire your ass if you fail a surprise drug test when you return from vacation.

fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.

How so?

Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman. If the suit doesn't work, take it higher. If you can't afford the law, turn to the mob or the A-Team.

Also, it helps to be indispensable. If they can't lose you, they won't drug test you.

Tried, and went down in Colorado.

It's still illegal according to the Federal law.

Now, I'd wonder how a discrimination suit would proceed if a minority got tested and claimed that all the whites were baked out of their minds.

Yeah, there was a case earlier this year in Colorado.  The guy worked in a call center and had some sort of disability due to an accident years ago and had a MMJ card.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23104820/colorado-appeals-court-oks-fir in g-off-duty-marijuana

The guy was a quadriplegic who worked for Dish Netowrk.


That's what I was talking about.  Of course they wouldn't have minded if he came on site high off his tits on prescription meds as long as he had the prescription.

Remember: they don't count as bad drugs if your dealer wears a white overcoat.
 
2013-12-29 03:28:32 PM  

grinding_journalist: Uhm, aren't border checkpoints BLATANTLY unconstitutional? Or are we just not gonna worry about that?


B; We're not going to worry about that because it's not going to happen.
 
2013-12-29 03:33:03 PM  

pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?


Jobs with legitimate public safety concerns typically do have random, on-duty alcohol screenings. Such screenings frequently are much more time-focused than those for other drugs (due both to technological and political concerns).  And many such jobs also have mandatory drug and alcohol screening after any reportable incident.

Don't get me wrong -- I personally think drug testing is a bad idea (for both employees and employers, or any other set of parties) except for the specific case of bone fide public safety concerns. But let's not pretend that places with such concerns are ignoring alcohol.
 
2013-12-29 03:40:44 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: OOBE Juan Kenobi: stewbert: FnkyTwn: I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.

Really? You should visit the west coast sometime. No need to hit WA; OR or CA are fine. I can assure you that people here are not worried about the illegality of smoking a bit of weed.

I can certainly understand concern in other states that aren't as libertarian about mj, but people here don't get worked up about it.

It is true - especially in the coastal neighborhoods. People walk around, smoking cannabis freely, and no one gets upset.

/coffee and cannabis

I prefer to be a discreet pot smoker, but it is not uncommon to go for a walk and smell it walking just about anywhere in my neighborhood.


I smell it at least 3-4 times a week walking down Michigan Ave in Chicago, probably the most heavily trafficked (pedestrian and cars) street in downtown Chicago. It's also got about 3-4 cops every block. I've stood right next to them as a car practically billowing smoke drives by and they didn't blink. Then again, they decriminalized weed and the PD threw a shiat fit about the process for writing the ticket and testing the weed, so maybe they are just being lazy.
 
2013-12-29 03:42:24 PM  
I live in a bordering state (Oklahoma).

I suspect that Oklahoma will be the 53rd state to legalize marijuana...that is to say, there will be more states admitted to the union before Oklahoma legalizes.

The highest point in Oklahoma is about 5 miles from Colorado (and less than a half-mile from New Mexico), so I expect an increase in traffic to the Black Mesa.

Somehow I doubt increased LEO presence at the border of Oklahoma and the Comanche National Grassland.
 
2013-12-29 03:48:03 PM  
I was at a concert last summer and while if you got caught smoking a cigarette, they would march you straight to the smoking area, if you smoked a pipe load right in front of the staff, the didn't notice at all.
 
2013-12-29 03:49:04 PM  

profplump: pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?


Yes. Drug screens also test for alcohol.
 
2013-12-29 04:29:21 PM  
I love weed but have not smoked since 1997.  My problem is somewhat the same as other posters, no place to get it and the places that is might be available are problematic to a middle aged woman.  If it were legal and I could go in  a store and pick out 7 grams of choice sinse--wow, it would be a dream come true.  My social skills have always sucked and that is why I have never been able to obtain a reliable source.
Considering a little trip to Denver later on in the year.
 
2013-12-29 04:45:17 PM  
you can still get fired if you fail the test, doesn't matter how legal it is.  The news is whipping this into more of frenzy here in Colorado than anywhere else.  Most folks I know still have the attitude of "not worth my job."

So many people are going to open up shops that I think it's going to go the other way, a big boom for a bit, and then many of the stores will shut down and then level out.  That's what happened with the medical dispensaries.  I used to see tons of dispensaries, there's still quite a few, but now many of the smaller ones are gone.
 
2013-12-29 04:50:12 PM  

Ika7734: you can still get fired if you fail the test, doesn't matter how legal it is.  The news is whipping this into more of frenzy here in Colorado than anywhere else.  Most folks I know still have the attitude of "not worth my job."

So many people are going to open up shops that I think it's going to go the other way, a big boom for a bit, and then many of the stores will shut down and then level out.  That's what happened with the medical dispensaries.  I used to see tons of dispensaries, there's still quite a few, but now many of the smaller ones are gone.


Lol- big box pot stores are gonna put the mom and pop pot shops out of business.  Weed Mart, PotCo, Home DePot
 
2013-12-29 04:51:42 PM  

profplump: pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?

Jobs with legitimate public safety concerns typically do have random, on-duty alcohol screenings. Such screenings frequently are much more time-focused than those for other drugs (due both to technological and political concerns).  And many such jobs also have mandatory drug and alcohol screening after any reportable incident.

Don't get me wrong -- I personally think drug testing is a bad idea (for both employees and employers, or any other set of parties) except for the specific case of bone fide public safety concerns. But let's not pretend that places with such concerns are ignoring alcohol.


The big difference is that tests for alcohol detect if you have intoxicating levels of alcohol in your system (though for some jobs the level considered unsafe is far less alcohol than the .08 BAC allowed for driving).  The tests for Marijuana can detect metabolites up to a month after use, even if you're 100% sober at the time.

I have no problem with workplaces testing to make sure employees aren't high or drunk on the job.  The problem I have is when the tests penalize people for use outside of work when that employee is never high or drunk while at work.
 
2013-12-29 04:54:52 PM  
"My social skills have always sucked" says Dogslobber Buttlube....that joke sets itself up. I can't tease, but I can say my 20 hour drive from NW Ohio to S Florida last week, and my upcoming trip home tomorrow would have been better if i didn't have to worry about the pure Kush I was carrying. Just a personal amount for wife and I, but enough to make a stink and enough to derail any plans of getting home on time if pulled over. Legalization would lessen this worry.
 
2013-12-29 05:06:48 PM  

aNihilV10L8tr: "My social skills have always sucked" says Dogslobber Buttlube....that joke sets itself up. I can't tease, but I can say my 20 hour drive from NW Ohio to S Florida last week, and my upcoming trip home tomorrow would have been better if i didn't have to worry about the pure Kush I was carrying. Just a personal amount for wife and I, but enough to make a stink and enough to derail any plans of getting home on time if pulled over. Legalization would lessen this worry.


What I learned was, glass jars. Not baggies. SEALED GLASS JARS. That shiat STINKS.
 
2013-12-29 05:10:00 PM  

stewbert: FnkyTwn: I have family in Colorado and what theyve noticed most of all is that when its actually legal, a whole lot of the associated paranoia just falls away. Youre not worried about the cops, or the neighbors. Its a more relaxed environment, and even though some of you hardcore guys might pretend that you dont care, it must be nice to live in a place where it's totally legal.

Really? You should visit the west coast sometime. No need to hit WA; OR or CA are fine. I can assure you that people here are not worried about the illegality of smoking a bit of weed.

I can certainly understand concern in other states that aren't as libertarian about mj, but people here don't get worked up about it.



Hell, i'm a grownassman (40) and I'm still worried about my parents finding out I partake on occasion. Pot being completely "legal" would eliminate a lot of guilt for a lot of people. Even if the cops aren't concerned about your private smoking, an army of grandparents wagging their fingers in shame and disappointment at you sucks if you have any sort of soul.

Then again, I still live where there are Sunday Blue Laws and you can only buy your liquor from a state-run ABC store.
 
2013-12-29 05:15:00 PM  

SevenizGud: I live in a bordering state (Oklahoma).

I suspect that Oklahoma will be the 53rd state to legalize marijuana...that is to say, there will be more states admitted to the union before Oklahoma legalizes.

The highest point in Oklahoma is about 5 miles from Colorado (and less than a half-mile from New Mexico), so I expect an increase in traffic to the Black Mesa.

Somehow I doubt increased LEO presence at the border of Oklahoma and the Comanche National Grassland.


Ironically, Oklahoma is still technically Indian Territory. If there is one thing we all know Indians like to do, it's to smoke the peace pipe. Even to this day, we still cannot get a break from the White Man.

museumoftheamericanwest.com
 
2013-12-29 05:27:18 PM  
I like to smoke pot about once or twice per month, but I absolutely HATE the pot culture (i.e., terrible comedy, gross food, self-righteousness, celebrating stupidity, etc.) I'm hoping legalizing it will bring a different demographic to pot smoking and change the culture.
 
2013-12-29 05:33:39 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: I like to smoke pot about once or twice per month, but I absolutely HATE the pot culture (i.e., terrible comedy, gross food, self-righteousness, celebrating stupidity, etc.) I'm hoping legalizing it will bring a different demographic to pot smoking and change the culture.


That would be great, but not to the point of pot snobs.  We have enough beer and wine snobs. But you know it will happen.
 
2013-12-29 05:36:59 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: I like to smoke pot about once or twice per month, but I absolutely HATE the pot culture (i.e., terrible comedy, gross food, self-righteousness, celebrating stupidity, etc.) I'm hoping legalizing it will bring a different demographic to pot smoking and change the culture.


The hell you say?

cdnl.complex.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com
 
2013-12-29 05:42:14 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: I like to smoke pot about once or twice per month, but I absolutely HATE the pot culture (i.e., terrible comedy, gross food, self-righteousness, celebrating stupidity, etc.) I'm hoping legalizing it will bring a different demographic to pot smoking and change the culture.

The hell you say?

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Ha!  That's nothing.  I once ate a bowl of ramen smothered in sardines.
 
2013-12-29 05:47:26 PM  
It's okay. Colorado and Washington will have the last laugh when recreational sales bring in more revenue than the filthy corrupt pigs setting up un-Constitutional checkpoints in the bordering states.
 
2013-12-29 06:51:02 PM  

MSFT: grinding_journalist: Uhm, aren't border checkpoints BLATANTLY unconstitutional? Or are we just not gonna worry about that?

B; We're not going to worry about that because it's not going to happen.


If California can have border checkpoints to ensure that you're not bringing banned fruit and produce into the state, why couldn't UT, NM, OK, NE, WY have checkpoints to make sure you're not bringing pot?
 
2013-12-29 07:53:24 PM  
dogslobber buttlube:

I've seen plenty of these sort of indecent usernames in my internet but yours is one of the best
 
2013-12-29 08:34:12 PM  

ski9600: Zizzowop: EngineerAU: You can't smoke it in public but can you consume it in other forms? Seems like that would be nearly impossible to detect casually. Is the high that different?

All I can say to this is, my ex-gf gave me some chocolate one time, and I was sky high, never touch that again, could have been strong dose, not sure. I certainly couldn't tell when I ate it.

I've heard that the way to do it is to simmer the MJ in butter slowly.  Then use the butter to cook things like brownies, cookies, cakes, etc.  Maybe shrimp scampi?


Butter or any kind of cooking oil.  THC is fat soluble (that's why it stays in your system so long, like fat soluble vitamins), but don't heat it too much.  Burnt edibles have a very bad taste.  Keep it low and slow, after 45 min or so you can run it through a sieve or coffee filter and you're left with a fine portion of cannabutter to use in whatever dish you please.

/or so I've heard
//themoreyouknow.jpg
///triple slashies
 
2013-12-29 08:35:23 PM  

doglover: Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman


only one of those things is it illegal to fire someone for.
 
2013-12-29 08:40:13 PM  
What DARE never taught me....

img.fark.net

I was told I'd be getting free drugs at every street corner, dammit.
 
2013-12-29 08:43:53 PM  

Mister Buttons: What DARE never taught me....

[img.fark.net image 280x180]

I was told I'd be getting free drugs at every street corner, dammit.


Here's an important message from your Uncle Bill. Don't buy drugs. Become a rock star, and they give you them for free!
 
2013-12-29 10:56:34 PM  
Best pot I ever ate was in the form of chocolate truffles. The chef was a professional chocolate chef and the truffles looked and tasted exactly like those one would buy in a  top quality chocolate shop, just with an added extra bonus (which I couldn't taste at all.)  Bring on legalisation.
 
2013-12-30 12:08:34 AM  
Another anecdotal story: I live in Washington.  Pot stores should exist in the next few months (no, it won't be available on January 1st....), and I think there's a good possibility I might buy some.  I have not purchased pot in almost two decades.  I am pretty sure there are a good number of people in the same boat as me: wouldn't mind giving it another try, but not willing to invest the time, trouble, and possible criminal record that would be required to try to find an illicit source.

I hate smoking it, but I can think of a few dinner recipes that would work well.......
 
2013-12-30 12:43:14 PM  

me texan: I've been looking into related stocks


You mean, like, Frito-Lay?
 
2013-12-30 12:50:50 PM  

d23: I have a feeling that the phrase "odor of marijuana" will be in several future police reports.


"I thought I smelled marijuana smoke" will no longer be grounds for a search by state or local police, any more than "I thought I smelled tobacco smoke" would be.  Doesn't mean they won't use it as an excuse anyway, of course.
 
2013-12-30 12:59:24 PM  

doglover: fark that noise.

Wrongful termination suit.


Employer has a policy of firing you if you test positive for THC, you knew this when you went to work there, you test positive for THC, they fire you--what are you going to claim was wrongful?   Remember, this will be happening in a state (and a nation) in which THC in almost any form is still illegal--it's the "coming home from vacation and getting busted and work" scenario.
 
2013-12-30 01:01:59 PM  

pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?


Serious question--when randomly drug tested at work, do they look for alcohol?  Most places I have worked have a policy forbidding being drunk at work, though I do not recall if they specified a BAC level.
 
2013-12-30 01:15:56 PM  

flondrix: pueblonative: And I'm sure they have random alcohol urine testings as well, right?

Serious question--when randomly drug tested at work, do they look for alcohol?  Most places I have worked have a policy forbidding being drunk at work, though I do not recall if they specified a BAC level.


Every drug test I've taken tested for booze, but I've never been a part of random drug testing. I've only been tested pre-employment
 
2013-12-30 02:07:58 PM  

doglover: Legal is legal. They can't fire you for riding a motorcycle with an international license or dating a Chinaman.


If you work in an "at will" state, they can fire you for any reason or for no reason.  If they are firing you for a reason that would violate federal law (i.e., you refused to tithe to the boss's church), 99% of the time the employer will come up with a substitute reason that doesn't.  Again, that substitute reason can be almost anything in an "at will" state.

Besides, the scenario was that you are coming home from your Colorado or Washington vacation, to a drug test in a state in which THC is illegal and having THC in your bloodstream is a valid reason for firing you.
 
2013-12-30 03:45:30 PM  
P.T. was so wrong.
There are many more than one born every minute.
 
2013-12-30 06:06:35 PM  

Nightjars: Another anecdotal story: I live in Washington.  Pot stores should exist in the next few months (no, it won't be available on January 1st....), and I think there's a good possibility I might buy some.  I have not purchased pot in almost two decades.  I am pretty sure there are a good number of people in the same boat as me: wouldn't mind giving it another try, but not willing to invest the time, trouble, and possible criminal record that would be required to try to find an illicit source.

I hate smoking it, but I can think of a few dinner recipes that would work well.......


If you're still interested when the shops open, maybe look into a vaporizer. It's a much easier way to get high than baking, but it's not much like smoking.

I prefer to inhale my weed, as it gives the effect quickly. With eating, I never know when I've had enough. But, legal retailers might help, since they seem to provide a consistent product.
 
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