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(The Atlantic)   Does everything make you anxious and full of anxiety, including thinking about anxiety? Does thinking about curing anxiety make you anxious? Here are some tips to help you survive anxiety   (theatlantic.com) divider line 108
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2013-12-28 07:39:33 PM
I'm far to anxious to read that article.
 
2013-12-28 07:53:37 PM
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-12-28 07:54:41 PM
This guy doesn't have an anxiety problem, he has a substance abuse problem.
 
2013-12-28 07:55:05 PM
politicalfilm.files.wordpress.com
/obviously
 
2013-12-28 07:55:35 PM
I'll come back when I'm stoned, read this again and see if it makes me paranoid. If nothing else maybe I'll get an "unprovoked" dose of adrenaline.
 
2013-12-28 07:57:18 PM
I feel anxious just reading that headline.  No way I'm reading TFA.
 
2013-12-28 07:57:23 PM
I get anxious because I don't know when exactly I get depressed. And I am always depressed due to my anxiety.
 
2013-12-28 07:58:27 PM
After reading the list of symptoms, phobias, therapies, and drugs that author of TFA went through, here is my diagnosis.

He's broken.

And that's a technical term - I have a GED in psychiatry.
 
2013-12-28 08:05:34 PM

Brittabot: I feel anxious just reading that headline.  No way I'm reading TFA.


lmao
 
2013-12-28 08:05:40 PM
www.meh.ro
 
2013-12-28 08:08:05 PM
Welp, at least Im not as broken as that guy. So theres that, which is nice...
 
2013-12-28 08:08:08 PM
WHY WAS THIS EVEN POSTED??
 
2013-12-28 08:12:29 PM
Author suffers from ironic process theory. Don't think about a white bear. If I said "don't think about the crowd" you'd go mad. It's one of the reasons I rock at presentations, I know the material and then do other things leading up to go time.

It's also why AA and NA are full of shiat. Gather a bunch of addicts together and talk about the harmful addictions? shiat, that just reminds you of your highs. Play D&D, go bowling, play poker with fellow recoverers, but do it soberly and without talking about not drinking.
 
2013-12-28 08:13:32 PM
Apparently the guy who wrote the article was actually Adrian Monk.
 
2013-12-28 08:14:29 PM
I don't get anxious but I do get depressed.
I wanted to start a group called Depressed People Anonymous.
But what's the point, nobody would come.
Just forget I even mentioned it.
 
2013-12-28 08:16:32 PM
I suffer from anxiety attacks due to drinking way too much for way too long.  A farker posted his anxiety fix in a thread a year or so ago.   He said to go with it and treat the attack like a roller coaster ride.  The first time I got to try it I was scared to death.  I went with it and it was over all most instantly.  It seams the fear of losing control amplifies the effect of the anxiety while riding it takes that fear away...you are submitting to it.  It doesn't work for everyone but it does for me.  I recently took and airplain ride by myselfy between two passengers for a couple of hours and had no issues!

Just thought I'd share
 
2013-12-28 08:17:39 PM
How does he even get that much Xanax?  My doctor keeps me at 20 per year.
 
2013-12-28 08:19:34 PM

Brittabot: I feel anxious just reading that headline.  No way I'm reading TFA.


I dunno...I read through it...it's just a guy who quells his fear of public speaking with drugs and alcohol.

I was expecting something more along the lines of:

Why do you get anxiety? You're just sitting there, watching TV and suddenly you feel a weird twinge in your body. Can it be? Are you about to get hit with a panic attack?

"No," you tell yourself. That's not it. "Is my heart beating a little faster?" You put your fingers around your wrists trying to feel your pulse, but you can't seem to find it. "My chest feels kind of funny...oh god, what if my heart stopped beating?" You wonder how long it takes for a heart attack victim to start feeling that suffocating pain in their chest.

Nope, you just found your pulse. But what if you had a heart attack? Would you be able to find your phone in time? How much is an ambulance ride? Would your family make you quit drinking forever? "OK, OK, just slow down here. You're fine. You're only breathing a little faster than normal. Ok, why am I talking to myself like I'm somebody else?" You haven't felt that chill in your blood or anythin-BAAAAMMMMM!!

Your head is screaming, blood is coursing, and you feel like it'll never end. It gets worse because now you're panicking that it might not ever end. Or at least not end before you need to get some sleep before that big meeting in the morning. You could lose your job and then how will you pay the bills? Who will take care of you? Your breathing would be fast and furious but you know longer know how to breathe. When was the last time you took a breath? You go to draw in a breath.

*thud*
 
2013-12-28 08:20:23 PM

peacheslatour: How does he even get that much Xanax?  My doctor keeps me at 20 per year.


20 pills per year? You're Dr sucks.
 
2013-12-28 08:22:22 PM
I'm fully of anxiety about over using the word "anxiety" too much or any derivative of it.

And it being used so much in this thread is making me anxious.
 
2013-12-28 08:23:23 PM
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing......Only I will remain."

Also after GLOBAL THERMAL NUCLEAR WAR I will feel more relaxed

Our leaders have failed us

I WAS PROMISED GLOBAL DESTRUCTION Screw you RAGUN!, Maccarther, actually every national security type since '39

Screw the flying cars I WANT MY MUSHROOM CLOUDS!
 
2013-12-28 08:23:59 PM

AaronK: I suffer from anxiety attacks due to drinking way too much for way too long.  A farker posted his anxiety fix in a thread a year or so ago.   He said to go with it and treat the attack like a roller coaster ride.  The first time I got to try it I was scared to death.  I went with it and it was over all most instantly.  It seams the fear of losing control amplifies the effect of the anxiety while riding it takes that fear away...you are submitting to it.  It doesn't work for everyone but it does for me.  I recently took and airplain ride by myselfy between two passengers for a couple of hours and had no issues!

Just thought I'd share


That's all a bad trip on hallucinogenics is. An anxiety attack. Just going with it is good advice.
 
2013-12-28 08:24:02 PM

Brittabot: I feel anxious just reading that headline.  No way I'm reading TFA.


Don't tell Catherine Tate
 
2013-12-28 08:25:22 PM

peacheslatour: How does he even get that much Xanax?  My doctor keeps me at 20 per year.


I think you lie, but to contrast I am percribed 90 a month and they are not helping enough so switching to something that is even more addictive yah!
 
2013-12-28 08:26:32 PM
Holy shiat I wish I had this amount of focus on the specific things that cause anxiety. Then it would be possible to combat it. Instead I have anxiety over nothing at all.
 
2013-12-28 08:29:06 PM

tinyarena: I don't get anxious but I do get depressed.
I wanted to start a group called Depressed People Anonymous.
But what's the point, nobody would come.
Just forget I even mentioned it.


One of these days, I'll get around to thinking about starting a Procrastinators Anonymous group, but maybe later.

Depression support groups really do exist, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were one for procrastinators.
 
2013-12-28 08:29:40 PM

vodka: Holy shiat I wish I had this amount of focus on the specific things that cause anxiety. Then it would be possible to combat it. Instead I have anxiety over nothing at all.


This

Try waking up in a fight, or wait no fight, but heart, muscles blood FIGHT or RUN
Try Having your mom try to help you but instead corner you and have to stop yourself from running or throwing the table aside and smashing her head into the wall.
 
2013-12-28 08:30:44 PM
Believe it or don't, fish oil.....fish oil helped me with anxiety and depression. Very inexpensive and no side-effects, other than sea-burp.
 
2013-12-28 08:32:24 PM

wildcardjack: Author suffers from ironic process theory. Don't think about a white bear. If I said "don't think about the crowd" you'd go mad. It's one of the reasons I rock at presentations, I know the material and then do other things leading up to go time.
It's also why AA and NA are full of shiat. Gather a bunch of addicts together and talk about the harmful addictions? shiat, that just reminds you of your highs. Play D&D, go bowling, play poker with fellow recoverers, but do it soberly and without talking about not drinking.


Not true. You have to talk about some of it so that you can accept that you're a fark-up, and then move on. That's why the people in those support groups are good--you can tell them stories of all kinds of heinous behavior and they'll just laugh at you and say, Hahahaa, you're a drunk! THEN you go bowling. And drink coffee, of course.

Everybody else just looks at you with that mournful face since you're a terrible fark-up. Then you feel bad and go drink more so you won't be reminded of what a horrible fark-up you are.
 
2013-12-28 08:32:30 PM

GBmanNC: peacheslatour: How does he even get that much Xanax?  My doctor keeps me at 20 per year.

20 pills per year? You're Dr sucks.


No shiat.  I get 60 every 30 days...
 
2013-12-28 08:32:46 PM

Disappearing Hitchhiker: Believe it or don't, fish oil.....fish oil helped me with anxiety and depression. Very inexpensive and no side-effects, other than sea-burp.


Serious question how does this help?
 
2013-12-28 08:38:47 PM

albatros183: Disappearing Hitchhiker: Believe it or don't, fish oil.....fish oil helped me with anxiety and depression. Very inexpensive and no side-effects, other than sea-burp.

Serious question how does this help?


http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/placebo-effect.htm
 
2013-12-28 08:40:22 PM

GBmanNC: peacheslatour: How does he even get that much Xanax?  My doctor keeps me at 20 per year.

20 pills per year? You're Dr sucks.


Maybe his Doctor went to Duke U. Everything there sucks.
 
2013-12-28 08:41:02 PM
I understand now!

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2013-12-28 08:41:10 PM
That article is way too long. Does it ever get to a point?
 
2013-12-28 08:43:07 PM

albatros183: Disappearing Hitchhiker: Believe it or don't, fish oil.....fish oil helped me with anxiety and depression. Very inexpensive and no side-effects, other than sea-burp.

Serious question how does this help?


Long ago I was chatting with a friend taking this. There's something about omega 3 or 6 fatty acids, but I don't remember the details.
 
2013-12-28 08:44:47 PM

Arthen: This guy doesn't have an anxiety problem, he has a substance abuse problem.


i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-28 08:45:55 PM

albatros183: Disappearing Hitchhiker: Believe it or don't, fish oil.....fish oil helped me with anxiety and depression. Very inexpensive and no side-effects, other than sea-burp.

Serious question how does this help?


Study it out. ...I was taking ssri's and fish oil. Doing okay. Ran out of FO. Still taking meds and became horribly depressed. Put two and two together. Took both for the next several months, then quit the ssri's on Christmas Day, 2009. Doing much better. I still get anxious/depressed, but nowhere as bad as I was.
 
2013-12-28 08:47:57 PM
Dr. Claire Weekes' "Pass Through Panic" - if you're having an anxiety attack right now, you're likely also hyper-suggestible, so you really need to get this off Audible or iTunes today.
 
2013-12-28 08:57:15 PM
What if you slowly swing back and forth between a general sense of stress and anxiety or a complete disconnect with depressive emotional shutdown? Weeee!
 
2013-12-28 09:01:21 PM

jaylectricity: AaronK: I suffer from anxiety attacks due to drinking way too much for way too long.  A farker posted his anxiety fix in a thread a year or so ago.   He said to go with it and treat the attack like a roller coaster ride.  The first time I got to try it I was scared to death.  I went with it and it was over all most instantly.  It seams the fear of losing control amplifies the effect of the anxiety while riding it takes that fear away...you are submitting to it.  It doesn't work for everyone but it does for me.  I recently took and airplain ride by myselfy between two passengers for a couple of hours and had no issues!

Just thought I'd share

That's all a bad trip on hallucinogenics is. An anxiety attack. Just going with it is good advice.


Yep. Acceptance of your situation is the best way to deal with it, if you can find a way to do that. Good practice for that is regular meditation. Every other way of dealing seems to be just some kind of way of distracting yourself, which means you're still avoidant.

/been on various meds for anxiety, used various approaches to modify my perspective. I'm at my best when I can sincerely "go with it".
 
2013-12-28 09:03:49 PM

zimbach: That article is way too long. Does it ever get to a point?


No, though this excerpt was entertaining:

"Hi, Scott," Kennedy said. "
"Uh, hi," I said, racking my brain for a plausible explanation for why I might be running through the house at cocktail hour with no pants on, drenched in sweat, swaddled in a soiled and reeking towel. But he and his friend appeared utterly unfazed-as though half-naked houseguests covered in their own excrement were common here-and walked past me down the stairs.
 
2013-12-28 09:09:07 PM
TL:DR

/pops Xanax
 
2013-12-28 09:10:18 PM
I endured frequent panic attacks starting at age 12 when my grandfather died. Really could cope with the concept of death. Then it morphed into a repetitive thoughts sort of deal (no OCD behaviour except the thoughts themselves, which I couldn't prevent in my mind -- the harder I tried, the worse they became).

So I learned to "go with it," as AaronK suggested. It didn't cure the problem, but the understanding of the process and the willingness to let the process play out made it more bearable.

Never took any medication other than a few Xanax, which I didn't take regularly enough to let it do its thing. Don't know if it would have helped or not.

Anyway, I have rarely felt a panic attack in almost a decade. If I do get keyed up, I just try to ride it out. Think of coping strategies to whatever is bothering me. Eventually it passes.

There is hope. It can be years of hell, but don't give up. I wish I had a magic bullet to offer for immediate relief. Drugs work for some people. Relaxation techniques work for others. But do talk to somebody if you can. It helps.
 
2013-12-28 09:12:41 PM
Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. Fixes all this and more.
 
2013-12-28 09:13:43 PM

Arthen: This guy doesn't have an anxiety problem, he has a substance abuse problem.


Came here to say this. The guy isn't dealing with his anxiety at all, he's using the substances to cope, and not very well. He needs some serious therapy, a eighth of weed, and maybe a scrip for Seroquel.

andynz81: Yep. Acceptance of your situation is the best way to deal with it, if you can find a way to do that. Good practice for that is regular meditation. Every other way of dealing seems to be just some kind of way of distracting yourself, which means you're still avoidant.


Agreed. Also, one of the things I learned with smoking weed is that it teaches you how to deal with the panic attacks. You know it's the pot, so when the panic and paranoia come in, you just sort of repeat the Dune mantra ("I must not fear") and roll with it. When you get an IRL panic attack, you go "Hey, this feels the same" and you've already been practicing methods to deal with it.

I'm still working on my phone fear, but three days up in the mountains away from everyone and everything did more to kick out the PTSD than any drugs I've taken so far. I just need the meds so that I can stay that way for more than two weeks once I get home.
 
2013-12-28 09:15:17 PM

wildcardjack: Author suffers from ironic process theory. Don't think about a white bear. If I said "don't think about the crowd" you'd go mad. It's one of the reasons I rock at presentations, I know the material and then do other things leading up to go time.

It's also why AA and NA are full of shiat. Gather a bunch of addicts together and talk about the harmful addictions? shiat, that just reminds you of your highs. Play D&D, go bowling, play poker with fellow recoverers, but do it soberly and without talking about not drinking.


AA used to claim the highest success (maybe 100%).  But they only counted people who stayed sober.. Their attitude is "if you relapse it's  your own fault because you didn't follow the steps". Talking and following the steps does not work for everyone and it strikes me as incongruous that they skew the results as they do.

/was an alky for 25 years. Talking about it never helped
//God's grace sobered me up
 
2013-12-28 09:16:25 PM
You need involvement, Charlie Brown!

/5 cents, please.
 
2013-12-28 09:18:12 PM

zimbach: That article is way too long. Does it ever get to a point?


No, he's just rambling.
 
2013-12-28 09:25:01 PM

cryinoutloud: wildcardjack: Author suffers from ironic process theory. Don't think about a white bear. If I said "don't think about the crowd" you'd go mad. It's one of the reasons I rock at presentations, I know the material and then do other things leading up to go time.
It's also why AA and NA are full of shiat. Gather a bunch of addicts together and talk about the harmful addictions? shiat, that just reminds you of your highs. Play D&D, go bowling, play poker with fellow recoverers, but do it soberly and without talking about not drinking.

Not true. You have to talk about some of it so that you can accept that you're a fark-up, and then move on. That's why the people in those support groups are good--you can tell them stories of all kinds of heinous behavior and they'll just laugh at you and say, Hahahaa, you're a drunk! THEN you go bowling. And drink coffee, of course.

Everybody else just looks at you with that mournful face since you're a terrible fark-up. Then you feel bad and go drink more so you won't be reminded of what a horrible fark-up you are.


Yeah, you're not supposed to talk about the "fun" you supposedly had anyway, because it skews the message for new folks and erases the reality of all the bad crap you had to deal with afterwards. From what I could tell, those who were the most successful had good sponsors and a strong support group; pretty much good advice for being successful no matter where you are or what you are doing in life.

It's also pretty powerful to have an ex-addict talk about losing his kid to a relapse. A lot of addicts go back out and forget that they have a lower tolerance, go to use the same amount they used to, and kill themselves in the process. That's the kind of thing you should hear at a meeting.

/was in NA for 30 days, stopped attending because she's not an addict, was bribed to go by the doctors in order to get anti-anxiety meds
//pretty funny when six different substance abuse counselors tell you, "You don't have an addiction problem. You have a trauma problem."
 
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