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(Mediaite)   Remember when you signed up for Obamacare and the website told you that you were now signed up for Medicaid, too? Well, you're not. So just go ahead and do that all over again. Thanks   (mediaite.com) divider line 53
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2013-12-28 05:05:55 PM  
Fist post
 
2013-12-28 05:10:22 PM  

Granny_Panties: Fist post


Fist bump to your fist post
 
2013-12-28 05:10:57 PM  

Granny_Panties: Fist post


derpicdn.net
 
2013-12-28 05:14:24 PM  
The error message:
Iowa has lost their internet connection to the Federal government. Please reapply at the State site so we can assure you that your deteriorating local coverage can be quickly processed in March.
 
2013-12-28 05:14:40 PM  
The only logical thing to do is go to single payer
 
2013-12-28 05:16:05 PM  
History's Greatest Monster Part 2: Electronic Bugaboo?

Gawd, I hate Sequels.
 
2013-12-28 05:18:22 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: The only logical thing to do is go to single payer


As somebody was is opposed to government health care, I must nonetheless agree. Outright socialism would be better. My preference ranking is something like:

Private healthcare.
Public healthcare
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Convoluted private/public catastrafack (aka, the status quo)

I suppose you could call that non-partisan extremism. I'm just mostly opposed to half-measures.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-28 05:21:42 PM  
When Fark admins get board these day, they look in the incoming queue and greenlight this shiat just for laughs.
 
2013-12-28 05:23:00 PM  
In my state you get a message like "You qualify for your state's medicare coverage and your information has been forwarded. Your state's medicare program will contact you soon".  But Alaska didn't take the medicare expansion so nobody is contacting no one.
 
2013-12-28 05:25:44 PM  
That would be irritating, especially if you're expecting coverage by next week.
 
2013-12-28 05:57:21 PM  
FTFA: The announcement affects people who entered their information into healthcare.gov and received a notice that they might qualify for Medicaid. The federal computer system was supposed to transfer their applications to a state computer system, but that transfer has been complicated by technical problems...The federal website's determination that applicants might qualify for Medicaid coverage was only preliminary. The Iowa Department of Human Services needs to determine which of the 16,000 people actually are eligible for Medicaid or related programs. Iowa administrators estimate that about 1,400 of them make too much money to qualify for the public programs.

Medicaid is state-administered. Feds don't get to say who exactly qualifies. IA spent time applying for extensions and dicking around beforehand so Branstad could figure out where the political winds would blow. I suspect if IA had just gotten its shiat together and set up its own exchange from the beginning, this would not have been the problem its become.
 
2013-12-28 05:58:25 PM  
Actually that quote was from the Des Moines Register, not the Mediaite summary.
 
2013-12-28 06:14:38 PM  

Granny_Panties: Fist post


You fisted yourself?
 
2013-12-28 06:15:44 PM  

Granny_Panties: Fist post


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
Hello. I'm Granny Panties. I'm an illiterate attention whore.
 
2013-12-28 06:46:42 PM  
Peter von Nostrand:
The only logical thing to do is go to single payer

Yes, because having the US government screw this up so completely is a great hint to let them screw up what's left.

"I know we set fire to your garage when we said we were just going to paint it, but we'd like to bid on painting your house, too."
 
2013-12-28 06:51:07 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Granny_Panties: Fist post

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 259x194]
Hello. I'm Granny Panties. I'm an illiterate attention whore.


You're just mad because you wish you'd thought of that.
 
2013-12-28 06:54:17 PM  
I'm sure we'll all be able to tell our grandkids exactly where we were when we heard this terrible news.
 
2013-12-28 07:37:33 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: The only logical thing to do is go to single payer


Proving that some people won't learn the lesson, even when it's as blatant as the this one has been. Fortunately, I think most people will be in the other camp after seeing the unholy mess of Abysmalcare.
 
2013-12-28 07:43:37 PM  
Seriously the need to drop the damn deadline as with all the issues still happening the site is not going to be working properly for some time yet.

Either that or just go to single payer already.
 
2013-12-28 07:44:18 PM  

Granny_Panties: Fist post


I hope you refuse to do business or use Google as well, since they support Republicans

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/10/google-hosting-fundraiser-for- re publican-senator-jim-inhofe/
 
2013-12-28 07:48:32 PM  

cirby: Peter von Nostrand:
The only logical thing to do is go to single payer

Yes, because having the US government screw this up so completely is a great hint to let them screw up what's left.

"I know we set fire to your garage when we said we were just going to paint it, but we'd like to bid on painting your house, too."


This was only screwed up because its required to interface with private companies and because the states were able to say yes or no to Medicaid expansion.

Notice how Medicaid/Medicare seems to work just fine when it comes to enrolling for the benefits? Single payer would be that easy. Especially since the infrastructure is already there. You just take away the enrollment age requirement and boom. Single payer.

If this is TL;DR, you're a special kind of stupid aren't you.
 
2013-12-28 07:48:34 PM  
My dog, the incompetence of this administration knows no bounds.

I love the analogy of compairing the building of the web site to winning WWII.
 
2013-12-28 08:42:22 PM  
I am amused how failure is now used as a reason for more of the same.
 
2013-12-28 08:42:28 PM  
Maryland's state exchange customer support erroneously submitted an application for me for medicaid (the website wasn't working, this happened over the phone despite my repeatedly telling them not to) in early October. I'm not actually eligible for Medicaid, and can't enroll in it, but the existing application has prevented me from signing up for anything else.  Over the next nearly 3 months, I've spent over 2 full days on the phone with them in more than a dozen phone calls, none of which have resulted in this being fixed.  No one, including the several supervisors I've spoken with, can fix it.  Tech support can't fix it, including the mystical "you can't talk to them, but we put a ticket in to higher level support" guys.  Of the 5 separate follow-up phone calls I've been promised, I've been called back a grand total of...zero times.  I've been hung up on twice, after multi-hour hold marathons.  Despite Maryland's deadline repeatedly getting pushed back (to try and counter their farktarded service preventing people from signing up), I'm about to run out of time (the last day is Dec 31st).  Friends have told me I should send an email to my state Reps and the Governor...as if they'll actually get read, and as if there is enough time for them to do something even if the emails do get through.

So, I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-12-28 08:48:06 PM  
Wisconsin is even worse. They just started building their own site so you won't be able to sign up until February at the earliest and coverage will not start until April 1. None of this retroactive coverage stuff for Scooter's people.
 
2013-12-28 09:27:38 PM  
Last Post!


Seriously, these ObamaCare threads are petering out pretty quickly. The Christmas eve one only mustered 37 posts. It seems the Henny Pennys are tapped out.
 
2013-12-28 09:45:00 PM  
Thats 16,000 iowans who will be voting against incompetent democrats next election.
 
2013-12-28 09:49:25 PM  
So vote democrat to get bigger government. Much better than what the private sector provides.
 
2013-12-28 09:50:40 PM  

Emposter: Maryland's state exchange customer support erroneously submitted an application for me for medicaid (the website wasn't working, this happened over the phone despite my repeatedly telling them not to) in early October. I'm not actually eligible for Medicaid, and can't enroll in it, but the existing application has prevented me from signing up for anything else.  Over the next nearly 3 months, I've spent over 2 full days on the phone with them in more than a dozen phone calls, none of which have resulted in this being fixed.  No one, including the several supervisors I've spoken with, can fix it.  Tech support can't fix it, including the mystical "you can't talk to them, but we put a ticket in to higher level support" guys.  Of the 5 separate follow-up phone calls I've been promised, I've been called back a grand total of...zero times.  I've been hung up on twice, after multi-hour hold marathons.  Despite Maryland's deadline repeatedly getting pushed back (to try and counter their farktarded service preventing people from signing up), I'm about to run out of time (the last day is Dec 31st).  Friends have told me I should send an email to my state Reps and the Governor...as if they'll actually get read, and as if there is enough time for them to do something even if the emails do get through.

So, I'm getting a kick...


Previous post was in response to this. ... Mobile device.
 
2013-12-28 10:08:04 PM  
Lim->Last Post
 
2013-12-28 10:27:03 PM  

SlothB77: Thats 16,000 iowans who will be voting against incompetent democrats next election.


You mean, the 16000 people who would have Medicaid taken away from them if the GOP repeals the ACA? Those 16000 people?

And you think they'll do this because they had to enter their information a 2nd time and might have to fork out some money out-of-pocket up front only to be reimbursed later if they happen to have to require medical care between now and when their medicaid application is processed?

Yea, that totally makes sense.

Totally.
 
2013-12-28 10:35:27 PM  

Cletus C.: That would be irritating, especially if you're expecting coverage by next week.


"This presents a problem for anyone who needs to go to the doctor in the intervening time, but a spokeswoman for the Iowa DHS said anyone this problem affects who qualifies for Medicaid would ultimately "have coverage retroactive to Jan. 1." "

Or... put another way... "The effective date of your coverage has nothing to do with when you are 'in the system'."

Or, put yet another way, "This doesn't represent a problem at all."
 
2013-12-28 10:37:32 PM  
16,000 people were told they have coverage, but now don't. It isn't entering their information a second time. It is uncertainty over whether they really will have coverage or not. If the site malfunctioned transferring the information, could it have also malfunctioned qualifying the applications as well?
 
2013-12-28 10:41:44 PM  
Dougie AXP:
This was only screwed up because its required to interface with private companies and because the states were able to say yes or no to Medicaid expansion.

Keep telling yourself that. The part that's broken is much deeper than the part where they're sending it to the insurance companies. They can't even get the system to reliably talk to itself - the interface with the end-providers come way down the list of "things that are horribly broken."

Notice how Medicaid/Medicare seems to work just fine when it comes to enrolling for the benefits?

Well, until a year or so from now, when the Feds stop chipping in the money they promised the states, and the funding for all of that "free" Medicare runs out. Then, of course, there's the part where such a high percentage of signups are Medicaid, when they thought they were going to be a smaller part. Not to mention all of the folks who have been told they qualify - but don't. That's going to be almost as funny as the broken exchanges when those millions of people find that out...

Expanded Medicare/Medicaid is currently still in the "we promise do do something good, but haven't had to deliver it yet" stage.
 
2013-12-28 10:51:34 PM  

SlothB77: 16,000 people were told they have coverage, but now don't. It isn't entering their information a second time. It is uncertainty over whether they really will have coverage or not. If the site malfunctioned transferring the information, could it have also malfunctioned qualifying the applications as well?


Some perhaps. All 16000? Highly doubtful.  So, some percentage... presumably a fairly large percentage... will actually qualify for Medicaid and therefore their coverage will be retroactive to January 1st. The remainder will not qualify for Medicaid, so they will pursue individual coverage like they were to begin with. Will their coverage be effective January 1st? I guess not at this point, but if I understand correctly, it will be effective as soon as... what... when their application for a particular plan is received? When it is processed? When will that be? A week... two... into January?  Yea, I suppose some small portion of those people will have needed medical care between January 1st and when their new coverage is effective and they'll be out of luck for that. I guess those people will be pissed. I'd even guess some of THOSE people might have been Obama/Dem supporters that will change their tune and suddenly want to vote for Tea Party patriots for the Senate next year.

So yea, I guess you're right. That's really something to hang your hat on there. You really showed those stoopid libs and Obama, I'll tell you what!
 
2013-12-28 10:56:40 PM  

theknuckler_33: SlothB77: Thats 16,000 iowans who will be voting against incompetent democrats next election.

You mean, the 16000 people who would have Medicaid taken away from them if the GOP repeals the ACA? Those 16000 people?

And you think they'll do this because they had to enter their information a 2nd time and might have to fork out some money out-of-pocket up front only to be reimbursed later if they happen to have to require medical care between now and when their medicaid application is processed?

Yea, that totally makes sense.

Totally.


The dumbocraps FORCED the GOP (who are the REAL victims here, not the uninsured) to oppose the streamlining and cost benefits of (among others) of socialized medicine in the name of corporate profits and general gotminefarkyouitude.  Real Amurikans will see that and vote accordingly.
 
2013-12-28 10:58:42 PM  
Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.
 
2013-12-28 11:03:13 PM  

Granny_Panties: Thirst Fist post


FTFY

/pet peeve
 
2013-12-28 11:03:43 PM  

JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.


I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.
 
2013-12-28 11:07:19 PM  

theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.

I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.


You didn't want to pay for maternity care? Seriously?

Selfish jerk.
 
2013-12-28 11:12:08 PM  

JohnnyBravo: theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.

I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.

You didn't want to pay for maternity care? Seriously?

Selfish jerk.


I don't want to pay for anything that doesn't affect me personally and immediately.

My house isn't on fire.  Let the world burn.
 
2013-12-28 11:24:18 PM  

JohnnyBravo: theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.

I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.

You didn't want to pay for maternity care? Seriously?

Selfish jerk.


So, just to be clear... you first wrote about 'healthy young people'... now it seems you are only talking about 'healthy young single men'.  Am I right about that?  Do you plan on moving the goal posts further?
 
2013-12-28 11:51:23 PM  
two step solution:
1:  single payer
2: carousel from "Logan's run"
 
2013-12-29 01:17:15 AM  

theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.

I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.


Probably because you couldn't afford it
 
2013-12-29 04:45:55 AM  
Is Obamacare a failure yet?
 
2013-12-29 05:29:34 AM  
Didn't read TFA, but you know, bullshiat.

It's probably total bullshiat that isn't even true, and doesn't affect anyone.

So rage on, Obamaphobes.
 
2013-12-29 07:23:02 AM  
The Website never told me that. It asked for an estimate of my 2014 earnings. I extrapolated my remaining 2013 earnings and added 1000 to be safe. Site said you no qualify for medicaid. But you get xxx for a subsidy. OK. Lets sign up for a policy. I did. It took me nearly a month and a half (this was before they fixed the site up). Paid my first installment and Jan 1st I'll be covered for the first time in 5 years. Woot.
 
2013-12-29 09:23:18 AM  

whidbey: Didn't read TFA, but you know, bullshiat.

It's probably total bullshiat that isn't even true, and doesn't affect anyone.

So rage on, Obamaphobes.


The dumbest man on Fark?  Possibly.  You are definitely a contender.
 
2013-12-29 09:56:33 AM  

theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: theknuckler_33: JohnnyBravo: Man, I hope all those healthy young people are signing up in droves to pay for this.

I know when I was young and healthy the last thing I wanted was health care coverage.

You didn't want to pay for maternity care? Seriously?

Selfish jerk.

So, just to be clear... you first wrote about 'healthy young people'... now it seems you are only talking about 'healthy young single men'.  Am I right about that?  Do you plan on moving the goal posts further?


You may want to use The ACA to get your sarcasm detecter checked.
 
2013-12-29 12:03:46 PM  
So the government buggers up the health care system and some people actually want to go full mega government disaster with single payer. Lunacy.
 
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