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(Gawker)   Sherlock Holmes is now in the public domain. Subette goes back to writing, "Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Leather Paddle Firmly Applied to Irene Adler's Bottom"   (gawker.com) divider line 72
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2013-12-28 01:54:39 PM
Repeat, sure. But it's funnier.

"One word, Watson: pygmies."
 
2013-12-28 02:02:35 PM
Curious question, and I ask because I have this friend, but is any of jane Austen's stuff public domain? How about Alice in wonderland?
 
2013-12-28 02:38:15 PM

Ambivalence: Curious question, and I ask because I have this friend, but is any of jane Austen's stuff public domain? How about Alice in wonderland?


They both are.
 
2013-12-28 03:00:21 PM

Ambivalence: Curious question, and I ask because I have this friend, but is any of jane Austen's stuff public domain? How about Alice in wonderland?




There's more published Jane Austen fan fic than any thing besides the Bible.
 
2013-12-28 03:15:13 PM
'My dear Watson, the dog did not bark because it was wearing a ball-gag!' - from A Furrie Holmes Companion
 
2013-12-28 03:35:40 PM
I think so Sherlock, but if they called them sad meals no one would buy them. --Watson
 
2013-12-28 03:41:59 PM
I would be interested in sampling some of Subbette's prose.
 
2013-12-28 04:03:01 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I would be interested in sampling some of Subbette's prose.



Aye! Aye!
 
2013-12-28 04:19:58 PM
I, uh... after the BBC series, that's not so much fanfic as just a simple role reversal..
 
2013-12-28 04:20:56 PM

Dougie AXP: JasonOfOrillia: I would be interested in sampling some of Subbette's prose.


Aye! Aye!


Oh Yes.
 
2013-12-28 04:24:52 PM
"Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Leather Paddle Firmly Applied to Irene Adler's Bottom."
Go on....
 
2013-12-28 04:29:39 PM
Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.
 
2013-12-28 04:37:20 PM
"By Jove you're RIGHT, Justin Bieber. You've solved the Adventure of One Direction's Lost Can of NEW Pepsi Free! Stand down, NCIS and CSI squads from o'er the network!"
 
2013-12-28 04:45:15 PM
Wait, isn't the Internet already overrun with bizarre Sherlock Holmes-related erotic fanfic? I'm still traumatized from the time that Topless Robot's fan fiction Friday featured a fanfic where Watson gave a severely constipated Holmes an enema.
 
2013-12-28 04:49:17 PM
But people will be paying royalties on Peter Pan forever.

Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988:

301. The provisions of Schedule 6 have effect for conferring on trustees for the benefit of the Hospital for Sick Children, Great Ormond Street, London, a right to a royalty in respect of the public performance, commercial publication, broadcasting or inclusion in a cable programme service of the play 'Peter Pan' by Sir James Matthew Barrie, or of any adaptation of that work, notwithstanding that copyright in the work expired on 31 December 1987
 
2013-12-28 04:50:05 PM
Nice! I am downloading from Project Gutenberg now. Didn't realize it was all available.

Ambivalence: Curious question, and I ask because I have this friend, but is any of jane Austen's stuff public domain? How about Alice in wonderland?


http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=jane+austen
 
2013-12-28 04:51:15 PM

rynthetyn: I'm still traumatized from the time that Topless Robot's fan fiction Friday featured a fanfic where Watson gave a severely constipated Holmes an enema.


Alimentary!
 
2013-12-28 04:53:09 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Holmes were a switch.
 
2013-12-28 04:57:11 PM

SmithHiller: Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.


As the article mentions, the estate was trying to argue that under American law the Sherlock Holmes stories are still under copyright because it's based on publication date and the estate was claiming that since the series didn't finish until 1927 so all elements of Sherlock Holmes should be considered to have been first published in that year. I'm a bit confused though: isn't copyright 95 years from publication in the US, not 90?

Meanwhile in the UK itself his stuff was already been free of copyright since 2000 (author's lifetime +70 years).
 
2013-12-28 04:59:17 PM
Ambivalence: Curious question, and I ask because I have this friend, but is any of jane Austen's stuff public domain? How about Alice in wonderland?

I guess Alice is fair game - at least there's been that Doctor Who audio drama where the 6th Doctor and Jamie meet a certain "Lieutenant Alice Liddell".
In that story, Lieutenant Alice Liddell is one of the most important officers leading the armies of the realm of fiction in their war against the invading Cybermen.

Coincidentally and fitting for this thread, it's mentioned that their armies were originally commanded by the tactical genius of Sherlock Holmes, but that the Cybermen finally managed to kill and/or convert Holmes.
So when The Doctor arrives and is taken by Alice to her commander in chief, Holmes is already dead and The Doctor only gets to meet Holmes' successor Count Dracula - chosen because of Vlad the Impaler's experience with leading armies against the Ottoman Empire.
 
2013-12-28 05:06:20 PM
It's a great opportunity to modernize an aging series..

"Sherlock holmes and the case of the missing iPhone"

"Sherlock holmes vs. the evidence requisition and chain of custody forms"
"Sherlock holmes and the 5 second DNA analysis montage"
"Sherlock holmes and his overload of skip tracing cases"
"Sherlock holmes vs. the workers comp faker"
 
2013-12-28 05:15:52 PM
Just the bits written before 1923, Subby. Characters and elements made in the post-1923 works are still copyrighted.
 
2013-12-28 05:21:53 PM

Grungehamster: SmithHiller: Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.

As the article mentions, the estate was trying to argue that under American law the Sherlock Holmes stories are still under copyright because it's based on publication date and the estate was claiming that since the series didn't finish until 1927 so all elements of Sherlock Holmes should be considered to have been first published in that year. I'm a bit confused though: isn't copyright 95 years from publication in the US, not 90?

Meanwhile in the UK itself his stuff was already been free of copyright since 2000 (author's lifetime +70 years).


I have a very nice collected edition of all the Conan Doyle stories in a hard back book. Legal in Britain and untill this month illigal in America. The life of the author and a bit is more than enough time for them to benifit from their works.
 
2013-12-28 05:22:22 PM
SmithHiller
Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.


I think the older stories were public domain, but not necessarily the entire character(isation)s of Holmes&co because the most recent stories were (are) still copyrighted in the US.
The way I understand it, the judge seems to have ruled that the content of those last four years of still copyrighted Holmes stories isn't original or important enough to still protect the character(s) when you compare that content to the 35 years of material that's already public domain.
 
2013-12-28 05:38:57 PM
Can I subscribe to subette's newsletter?
 
2013-12-28 05:40:03 PM
While I've had bad experiences reading fanfiction in the past, in general I'm in favor of stories that involve paddling women.
 
2013-12-28 05:53:45 PM

Norfolking Chance: I have a very nice collected edition of all the Conan Doyle stories in a hard back book. Legal in Britain and untill this month illigal in America. The life of the author and a bit is more than enough time for them to benifit from their works.


It's not for the benefit of the author's estate, it's all about protecting the licensing rights of certain companies, particularly one who made it's money making movies out of already copyright-free works in the first place...

http://youtu.be/tk862BbjWx4
 
2013-12-28 05:58:06 PM
i989.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-28 05:58:59 PM

SmithHiller: Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.


Yeah, I'm surprised that The Asylum paid the licensing fees to the Doyle estate for this POS:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-28 05:59:33 PM

The Voice of Doom: SmithHiller
Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.

I think the older stories were public domain, but not necessarily the entire character(isation)s of Holmes&co because the most recent stories were (are) still copyrighted in the US.
The way I understand it, the judge seems to have ruled that the content of those last four years of still copyrighted Holmes stories isn't original or important enough to still protect the character(s) when you compare that content to the 35 years of material that's already public domain.


The characters are tied to the works where they were introduced, so they entered the public domain in 1978 with the books from before 1923. But any character traits or story lines after 1922 are still under copyright until 2018 and beyond. So you can talk about Holmes and Watson for free, but mentioning Holmes's athletic background or his retirement requires a license. Same goes for characters added after 1922.

It's like how using some of Superman's powers in movies requires licenses from different places because different people introduced them in different stories.
 
2013-12-28 06:22:02 PM
Next up, the Gawker edition of Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Missing Cock Ring.
 
2013-12-28 06:42:19 PM
Repeats are to be avoided for absolutely any reason other than that of attention whoredom.
 
2013-12-28 06:58:14 PM
"Why, Holmes! Are you propositioning me for anal sex?"
"It's alimentary, my dear Watson."
 
2013-12-28 06:58:41 PM
~~Top 10 Fan Fic Pron


10. Dr. Watson and the Mysterious Dose of the Clap

09. Whom We Did on Our Summer Vacation by Dr. John Watson

08. The Case of Lambskin Prophylactics

07. The Baker Street Irregularities

06. Dr. Watson's Adventures in the Hareem of the Great Mogul

05. The Sinking of Queen Mary

04. On Her Majesty's Servicing

03. What Mrs. Hudson Saw

02. Our Mutual Acquaintance, Lou Salome

01. Sherlock and Kirk and Spock and Watson Get It On in the Holodeck
 
2013-12-28 07:01:04 PM

t3knomanser: "Why, Holmes! Are you propositioning me for anal sex?"
"It's alimentary, my dear Watson."



I think this joke has been in the public domain since the first Sherlock Holmes story.
 
2013-12-28 07:23:40 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: The Voice of Doom: SmithHiller
Hasn't Project Gutenberg had Sherlock Holmes available for years?
I'm confused.

I think the older stories were public domain, but not necessarily the entire character(isation)s of Holmes&co because the most recent stories were (are) still copyrighted in the US.
The way I understand it, the judge seems to have ruled that the content of those last four years of still copyrighted Holmes stories isn't original or important enough to still protect the character(s) when you compare that content to the 35 years of material that's already public domain.

The characters are tied to the works where they were introduced, so they entered the public domain in 1978 with the books from before 1923. But any character traits or story lines after 1922 are still under copyright until 2018 and beyond. So you can talk about Holmes and Watson for free, but mentioning Holmes's athletic background or his retirement requires a license. Same goes for characters added after 1922.

It's like how using some of Superman's powers in movies requires licenses from different places because different people introduced them in different stories.


WHen does super-counting and super knitting go into public domain?
 
2013-12-28 07:25:40 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

Irene is a saucy little wench.
 
2013-12-28 07:37:53 PM
i1207.photobucket.com
I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-12-28 07:44:19 PM

rjakobi: Repeat, sure. But it's funnier.

"One word, Watson: pygmies."


1) wtf is a repeat tag
2) when did repeats start staying greenlit ?
 
2013-12-28 07:54:30 PM

namatad: rjakobi: Repeat, sure. But it's funnier.

"One word, Watson: pygmies."

1) wtf is a repeat tag
2) when did repeats start staying greenlit ?


The repeat tag was created a few years ago and it's 1) admin use only, and 2) used when we feel a headline is too good to redlight despite the article being a repeat. It's not used very often, though.
 
2013-12-28 08:14:48 PM
what_now:

There's more published Jane Austen fan fic than any thing besides the Bible.

Rule #1 of fanfic: All fanfic sucks... except the fanfic that you wrote this one time...

I started writing some Austen fanfic this one time.  It was to be a novel based on Emma, but in which Emma Woodhouse is a batshiat insane serial killer.  The story would be told in narrative form, from the point of view of George Knightly.  Knightly is so in love with Emma that he forgives her murderous ways.  Instead of turning her into the authorities, he tracks her every movement and tries to stop her from killing.  Emma's very clever, though, and she occasionally gets away from him in order get a little of the old ultraviolence in.  Whenever that happens, Knightly cleans up the mess and makes sure it can't be traced back to Emma.  Most of Emma's psycho behavior arises from situations where her ill-considered meddling backfires or has an outcome she did not foresee.  That pisses her off, so she does her best to correct the course of events by the judicious application of sharpened steel.

I spent about two months cataloging every entry and exit of every character in the novel, noting where the last appearance of each one occurred.  Because that was when Emma would attempt butcher them.  Knightly would then calm down Emma, and (depending on whether or not she had been successful in killing the character) get her away and/or clean up the crime scene and convince the rest of the characters that the recently deceased had left for the reasons noted in the actual novel.

Unfortunately, there aren't all that many significant character exits in Emma, so I had to invent some random villagers for her to slaughter, with the tie-in being getting Emma cleaned up, calmed by a dose of poppy juice, and back into the main stream of the original novel at the appropriate places and times.

Eventually, Emma realizes that Knightly is the man for her (because he's so good about making sure she doesn't hang for her crimes) and accepts his offer of marriage, contingent on her not being so stabby all the time...  Of course, her father, who is a very nervous man (it's revealed then that he has known all along about his daughter's homicidal tendencies), has a hard time letting Emma go.  But when Emma, frustrated by Knightly in an attempt to off yet another character, goes on a rampage and violently tortures to death a number of turkeys in the area, Woodhouse relents, and their pastor friend Mr. Elton marries them in a ceremony that is later described as "Very little white satin, very few lace veils; a most pitiful business!"

I have a decent outline and a few early chapters sitting out on whatever Google calls its docs these days, but I doubt I'll ever finish it because I realized there was a second rule of fanfic.

Rule #2 of fanfic: Even that fanfic that you wrote that one time sucks.
 
2013-12-28 08:26:34 PM
Time to update the geek hierarchy chart??

Which is geekier? Erotic Jane Austen fanfic or erotic Sherlock Holmes fanfic?  What about furry erotic Sherlock Holmes fanfic vs. furry erotic Bronte Sisters fanfic?
 
2013-12-28 08:31:21 PM

stonelotus: [i1207.photobucket.com image 376x490]
I'll just leave this here.


Any excuse to post Natalie Dormer pics.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-28 08:38:24 PM

GungFu: t3knomanser: "Why, Holmes! Are you propositioning me for anal sex?"
"It's alimentary, my dear Watson."


I think this joke has been in the public domain since the first Sherlock Holmes story.


It made its way past the censors in Diamonds are Forever in 1967.
 
2013-12-28 08:46:19 PM

tillerman35: what_now:

There's more published Jane Austen fan fic than any thing besides the Bible.

Rule #1 of fanfic: All fanfic sucks... except the fanfic that you wrote this one time...

I started writing some Austen fanfic this one time.  It was to be a novel based on Emma, but in which Emma Woodhouse is a batshiat insane serial killer.  The story would be told in narrative form, from the point of view of George Knightly.  Knightly is so in love with Emma that he forgives her murderous ways.  Instead of turning her into the authorities, he tracks her every movement and tries to stop her from killing.  Emma's very clever, though, and she occasionally gets away from him in order get a little of the old ultraviolence in.  Whenever that happens, Knightly cleans up the mess and makes sure it can't be traced back to Emma.  Most of Emma's psycho behavior arises from situations where her ill-considered meddling backfires or has an outcome she did not foresee.  That pisses her off, so she does her best to correct the course of events by the judicious application of sharpened steel.

I spent about two months cataloging every entry and exit of every character in the novel, noting where the last appearance of each one occurred.  Because that was when Emma would attempt butcher them.  Knightly would then calm down Emma, and (depending on whether or not she had been successful in killing the character) get her away and/or clean up the crime scene and convince the rest of the characters that the recently deceased had left for the reasons noted in the actual novel.

Unfortunately, there aren't all that many significant character exits in Emma, so I had to invent some random villagers for her to slaughter, with the tie-in being getting Emma cleaned up, calmed by a dose of poppy juice, and back into the main stream of the original novel at the appropriate places and times.

Eventually, Emma realizes that Knightly is the man for her (because he's so good about making sure she doesn't hang fo ...


that sounds at least as interesting as pride and prejudice and zombies. And your characters dont need to know martial arts, which is too much of a stretch for me. Just write it and pitch it to every publisher and rake in the money. Just imagine the dust jacket : "Emma: Portrait of a serial meddler"
 
2013-12-28 09:08:27 PM
Sherlock Holmes and the Dirty Butt Plug.
 
2013-12-28 09:28:05 PM
Sherlock Holmes And The Monochrome Riverboat
 
2013-12-28 09:35:58 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: The characters are tied to the works where they were introduced, so they entered the public domain in 1978 with the books from before 1923. But any character traits or story lines after 1922 are still under copyright until 2018 and beyond. So you can talk about Holmes and Watson for free, but mentioning Holmes's athletic background or his retirement requires a license. Same goes for characters added after 1922.

It's like how using some of Superman's powers in movies requires licenses from different places because different people introduced them in different stories.


While that may be the case, the fact is as those couple years go by there's going to be less and less for the estate to hang onto now. This was the big battle. Everything after this is an increasingly smaller battle.

Meanwhile, though, watch for Disney to start angling for another extension on the Steamboat Willie copyright any day now, now that they've just witnessed that stuff can in fact go into the public domain once in a while after all.
 
2013-12-28 10:07:04 PM
Sherlock Holmes and the Missing Key of Tar Heroin

/Quick, Watson! The needle!!!
 
2013-12-28 10:08:30 PM

fusillade762: stonelotus: [i1207.photobucket.com image 376x490]
I'll just leave this here.

Any excuse to post Natalie Dormer pics.

[www.hollywoodreporter.com image 349x466]

[i.imgur.com image 746x720]




That's has to be the only picture where she doesn't have that little smirk on her face.

I like it!
 
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