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2013-12-28 02:39:36 PM
...b-b-but SOSHULIZM!!!1!!1
 
2013-12-28 02:49:37 PM
Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.
 
2013-12-28 02:50:38 PM
FTFA: "I don't think there's much reason to be concerned" about economic inequality, said Winship. The damage to the middle class, he said, "has really been overstated. The middle class has not stagnated."

Wow....  This guy is an economic adviser to the Chairman of the House Budget Committee.  And the Chairman is Paul Ryan.  Let that sink in for a moment.

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2013-12-28 03:20:01 PM

simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.


That much stupidity requires a team effort.
 
2013-12-28 04:13:13 PM
Millionaires donate money to Republican's campaigns, so how much do the poor donate? (Crickets) So fark-em.
 
2013-12-28 04:27:15 PM
Remember kids: if it's not a problem for your clients, it's not a problem for America...
 
2013-12-28 04:34:10 PM
I would have assumed Paul Ryan's economic advisor was just a Drinking Bird placed to repeatedly hit a button that plays Ayn Rand's voice squawking "TAX CUTS."
 
2013-12-28 04:35:54 PM
I'm a fan of Robert Reich -- he's one of the few people I don't personally know that I 'subscribe' to on Facebook. I read the transcript this morning, quite refreshing to have an Old School Liberal fight so damn hard.

That said, Old School Liberals are so rare and powerless nowadays that I don't have much hope that there's any chance of anything changing.
 
2013-12-28 04:38:26 PM
Any other links to the video? My ipad has epileptic fits with that site.
 
2013-12-28 04:40:33 PM
My dad raised 4 of us in a nice home on a blue collar wage.  My son coats steal with zinc 58 hours a week, and simply cannot afford to raise a family.  Yep, the middle class is just fine.

/Son not college material
//No baby mamas, no expensive habits
///He does OK except for working all the time
 
2013-12-28 04:40:43 PM

nyseattitude: Any other links to the video? My ipad has epileptic fits with that site.


Just get a youtube video of Ned Beatty learning how to squeal in Deliverance.  That pretty much sums up what happened to Ryan's economic adviser.
 
2013-12-28 04:42:20 PM
I take issue with the headline. It implies that they're capable of learning.
 
2013-12-28 04:46:34 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I don't think there's much reason to be concerned" about economic inequality, said Winship. The damage to the middle class, he said, "has really been overstated. The middle class has not stagnated."

Wow....  This guy is an economic adviser to the Chairman of the House Budget Committee.  And the Chairman is Paul Ryan.  Let that sink in for a moment.

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To be fair, the middle class hasn't stagnated.  It has regressed.
 
2013-12-28 04:47:36 PM

simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.


He stands on the shoulder of giants.
 
2013-12-28 04:49:23 PM

simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.


According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.
 
2013-12-28 04:52:17 PM

t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.


So which University do we get to sue for gross malpractice on account of graduating this clown?
 
2013-12-28 04:53:16 PM

t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.


I don't know how to take that. I've only got one Macro and one Micro class under my belt, so I have no idea of the value of a degree in the "dismal Science" is.
 
2013-12-28 04:53:18 PM

nyseattitude: Any other links to the video? My ipad has epileptic fits with that site.


Here you go.
 
2013-12-28 04:54:00 PM

duke3522: My dad raised 4 of us in a nice home on a blue collar wage.  My son coats steal with zinc 58 hours a week, and simply cannot afford to raise a family.  Yep, the middle class is just fine.

/Son not college material
//No baby mamas, no expensive habits
///He does OK except for working all the time


You need to focus on what matters, gay people getting married and Obama playing golf.
 
2013-12-28 04:56:54 PM

Yakk: duke3522: My dad raised 4 of us in a nice home on a blue collar wage.  My son coats steal with zinc 58 hours a week, and simply cannot afford to raise a family.  Yep, the middle class is just fine.

/Son not college material
//No baby mamas, no expensive habits
///He does OK except for working all the time

You need to focus on what matters, gay people getting married and Obama playing golf.


You forgot Benghazi, the arugula, and the spicy mustard.
 
2013-12-28 04:58:03 PM

sdd2000: Yakk: duke3522: My dad raised 4 of us in a nice home on a blue collar wage.  My son coats steal with zinc 58 hours a week, and simply cannot afford to raise a family.  Yep, the middle class is just fine.

/Son not college material
//No baby mamas, no expensive habits
///He does OK except for working all the time

You need to focus on what matters, gay people getting married and Obama playing golf.

You forgot Benghazi, the arugula, and the spicy mustard.


And the persecution of Phil Robertson.
 
2013-12-28 04:59:56 PM

hawcian: nyseattitude: Any other links to the video? My ipad has epileptic fits with that site.

Here you go.


Thank you
 
2013-12-28 05:01:24 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: sdd2000: Yakk: duke3522: My dad raised 4 of us in a nice home on a blue collar wage.  My son coats steal with zinc 58 hours a week, and simply cannot afford to raise a family.  Yep, the middle class is just fine.

/Son not college material
//No baby mamas, no expensive habits
///He does OK except for working all the time

You need to focus on what matters, gay people getting married and Obama playing golf.

You forgot Benghazi, the arugula, and the spicy mustard.

And the persecution of Phil Robertson.


*holds hat over his heart* That man is the Rosa Parks of morons.
 
2013-12-28 05:02:00 PM

pueblonative: t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.

So which University do we get to sue for gross malpractice on account of graduating this clown?


Harvard University.

To be fair, he got a Ph.D. in social policy. His ignorance of economics is not their fault.
 
2013-12-28 05:03:47 PM
Listen to those talking points reverberate through the echo chamber.
 
2013-12-28 05:07:04 PM

BMFPitt: Listen to those talking points reverberate through the echo chamber.


How could they reverberate when Reich smacked them down so hard?
 
2013-12-28 05:07:24 PM
Most republicans that you see on TV are in a position to say the same thing: "The middle class is fine. All my friends are in the middle class and they're doing great."

Makes me a little cranky.
 
2013-12-28 05:08:00 PM
I'm not quite sure if the word "schooled" is entirely appropriate there as the exchange was hardly heated but I did rather enjoy RR's "we must be looking at different studies then" moment.
 
2013-12-28 05:10:49 PM

t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.


Economists don't know anything about the economy. Not the 'real' economy.  Because they have no 'boots on the ground' experience.  They only know about ivory tower theories.  In fact, it's better to consult people without academic qualifications.

/yes, I have heard that multiple times from the derpers
 
2013-12-28 05:11:08 PM

max_pooper: pueblonative: t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.

So which University do we get to sue for gross malpractice on account of graduating this clown?

Harvard University.

To be fair, he got a Ph.D. in social policy. His ignorance of economics is not their fault.


But his grasp of social policy is.
 
2013-12-28 05:11:38 PM

hubiestubert: Remember kids: if it's not a problem for your clients, it's not a problem for America...


Pretty much this. It's not a big deal for Ryan's advisor because that's not who he serves.
 
2013-12-28 05:12:37 PM
FTFA: "I don't think there's much reason to be concerned" about economic inequality, said Winship. The damage to the middle class, he said, "has really been overstated. The middle class has not stagnated."

Since 1962 when your talking about real wages.  What an ignoramus.
 
2013-12-28 05:13:24 PM
you're, not your.

FTFM
 
2013-12-28 05:13:28 PM

Huggermugger: t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.

Economists don't know anything about the economy. Not the 'real' economy.  Because they have no 'boots on the ground' experience.  They only know about ivory tower theories.  In fact, it's better to consult people without academic qualifications.


Like a Russian born philosopher who accepted social security and medicare after a lifetime of smoking cigarettes and never had a successful business in her life other than fleecing autistic rubes.
 
2013-12-28 05:14:07 PM

simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

Ayn Rand has been dead for years.

FTFY
 
2013-12-28 05:14:15 PM

2wolves: FTFA: "I don't think there's much reason to be concerned" about economic inequality, said Winship. The damage to the middle class, he said, "has really been overstated. The middle class has not stagnated."

Since 1962 when your talking about real wages.  What an ignoramus.


But they have refrigerators now.
 
2013-12-28 05:15:31 PM

cameroncrazy1984: BMFPitt: Listen to those talking points reverberate through the echo chamber.

How could they reverberate when Reich smacked them down so hard?


Because what Reich says doesn't matter; he's a dirty stinking lib and their ignorance is just as good as his knowledge.  It's an affront to St. Ronnie that Reich has the same initials.
 
2013-12-28 05:20:12 PM

quatchi: I'm not quite sure if the word "schooled" is entirely appropriate there as the exchange was hardly heated but I did rather enjoy RR's "we must be looking at different studies then" moment.


I just read a few of his "studies".

In a nut shell;
The poor aren't as poor as they where thirty years ago so inequality isn't an issue

I've taken these studies and manipulated the numbers to my liking

Trickle Down economics works great
 
2013-12-28 05:24:37 PM

StopLurkListen: I'm a fan of Robert Reich -- he's one of the few people I don't personally know that I 'subscribe' to on Facebook. I read the transcript this morning, quite refreshing to have an Old School Liberal fight so damn hard.

That said, Old School Liberals are so rare and powerless nowadays that I don't have much hope that there's any chance of anything changing.


This. Reich is a very interesting man, and very smart. He's been known to school conservative blowhards before. I subscribe to him too and it's worth it.
 
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2013-12-28 05:28:30 PM
Inequality doesn't matter to Paul Ryan's Donors.. and that's all that matters to Paul Ryan.  Our system is farked.
 
2013-12-28 05:28:39 PM

pueblonative: Huggermugger: t3knomanser: simplicimus: Wait, Ryan has an economic advisor? I thought he came up with his stupidity by himself.

According to the comments, his economic advisor does not have a degree in economics, so at least he's got that going for him.

Economists don't know anything about the economy. Not the 'real' economy.  Because they have no 'boots on the ground' experience.  They only know about ivory tower theories.  In fact, it's better to consult people without academic qualifications.

Like a Russian born philosopher who accepted social security and medicare after a lifetime of smoking cigarettes and never had a successful business in her life other than fleecing autistic rubes.


I hate Ayn Rand with the passion of a thousand supernovas, but she did have a fairly good secondary education in Russia, even after the evil commies took over.

However, once she decided that she was the most brilliant genius who was ever born, she stopped reading anything that anyone else had written. So, she was woefully ignorant in a multitude of fields.  She only knew about economics what her toyboys like Alan Greenspan told her.  The Objectivist idea of being educated was attending each others' lectures.
 
2013-12-28 05:30:02 PM
There's two things to know about Robert Reich before laughing the clown out of the room.

First, inequality, his pet cause, grew worse under him than it did prior and after his tenure. At the very least that should show that he's clueless about his topic of expertise.

Second, George Will nailed him when he accurately described him as a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

The guy is the very essence of the head in the cloud economist who argues principles that are completely unworkable but if they could work... they'd be great!

But he has a series of credentials that liberals like to impress each other with so they all claim to adore the guy and read his screeds.
 
2013-12-28 05:30:54 PM

Huggermugger: She only knew about economics what her toyboys like Alan Greenspan told her.


Now there's an idea:  you want to go on an instant diet, think of Rand, Alan Greenspan, and Nathanial Branden in a threeway.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-28 05:32:12 PM

Mrbogey: Second, George Will nailed him when he accurately described him as a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.


That's an interesting from George Will, who has made his living over the last 20 years by building strawmen and creating dumb false dilemma arguments.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-28 05:32:58 PM

pueblonative: Huggermugger: She only knew about economics what her toyboys like Alan Greenspan told her.

Now there's an idea:  you want to go on an instant diet, think of Rand, Alan Greenspan, and Nathanial Branden in a threeway.


which probably DID happen...
 
2013-12-28 05:40:47 PM
Why is Reich saying Republicans won't extend unemployment benefits?

That was part of a bipartisan budget agreement passed by the Republican House, Democratic Senate and signed by a Democratic president.
 
2013-12-28 05:41:58 PM

d23: Mrbogey: Second, George Will nailed him when he accurately described him as a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

That's an interesting from George Will, who has made his living over the last 20 years by building strawmen and creating dumb false dilemma arguments.


George Will has become the measure for what stupid people think smart people sound like. He really should stick to baseball.
 
2013-12-28 05:42:01 PM

aaronx: Most republicans that you see on TV are in a position to say the same thing: "The middle class is fine. All my friends are in the middle class and they're doing great."

Makes me a little cranky.


Agreed.  It's interesting to watch actual doublethink in action - the same Republicans who say that the middle class is currently doing great because of Republican policies will turn right around and say that the middle class is currently doing terribly because of Democratic policies.

/In the alternate reality in my mind, the press occasionally calls them out on their duplicity and makes them cry a little.
//And my wife Winona Ryder and I are expecting again!
 
2013-12-28 05:51:31 PM

Cletus C.: Why is Reich saying Republicans won't extend unemployment benefits?

That was part of a bipartisan budget agreement passed by the Republican House, Democratic Senate and signed by a Democratic president.


Because the GOP won't vote for an extension?
 
2013-12-28 05:54:16 PM

Cletus C.: Why is Reich saying Republicans won't extend unemployment benefits?

That was part of a bipartisan budget agreement passed by the Republican House, Democratic Senate and signed by a Democratic president.


No it wasn't. Please pay attention or at least do a google search before posting.
 
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