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2013-12-28 09:02:37 AM
i595.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-28 09:21:34 AM
biatch! I love you.
 
2013-12-28 10:36:19 AM
That's a funny one subby
 
2013-12-28 10:41:51 AM
Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.
 
2013-12-28 10:43:06 AM
 
2013-12-28 10:44:11 AM
Will there ever be a cure for sobriety?
 
2013-12-28 10:44:28 AM

lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.


This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.
 
2013-12-28 10:46:00 AM
This will soon change, but unfortunately for the kid, not soon enough.  Can we get a fund together and anonymously send him a bag of medicinal weed?  I could probably get the vapor tips as well...
 
2013-12-28 10:46:34 AM

jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.


I'm like really sad that I'm out of weed.  Depressed even.  I should qualify.
 
2013-12-28 10:46:50 AM
Leprosy. I got leprosy. Give it to me doc.  No? Colicky baby. Restless leg.  Club foot.
 
2013-12-28 10:47:48 AM

uber humper: Will there ever be a cure for sobriety?


I think they call it church but, don't quote me on that.
 
2013-12-28 10:48:03 AM

lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.


Great way to get plenty of Valium, too.
 
2013-12-28 10:48:04 AM

jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.


I don't have a card, but was under the impression it was pretty easy, especially with "undetectable" things, like depression, anxiety, or chronic pain.

My back always hurts and painkillers make me vomit and lethargic.

I'm depressed and every pharm I've tried makes me feel like I'm going crazy.

I'm sober too much of the time and don't like it.

etc etc
 
2013-12-28 10:49:23 AM
 
2013-12-28 10:49:52 AM

grinding_journalist: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

I don't have a card, but was under the impression it was pretty easy, especially with "undetectable" things, like depression, anxiety, or chronic pain.

My back always hurts and painkillers make me vomit and lethargic.

I'm depressed and every pharm I've tried makes me feel like I'm going crazy.

I'm sober too much of the time and don't like it.

etc etc


So they're treating marijuana like every other medication, then?
 
2013-12-28 10:50:00 AM

JohnnyRebel88: This will soon change, but unfortunately for the kid, not soon enough.  Can we get a fund together and anonymously send him a bag of medicinal weed?  I could probably get the vapor tips as well...


I have a glue-coma and back pain can you send me some vapor tips too please?
 
2013-12-28 10:50:23 AM

jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.


For some those symptoms are very real and require medical intervention.  It's laughable that marijuana is illegal in Texas while Prozac is perfectly acceptable when they both do the exact same thing to treat my anxiety.  I don't even get high, it just keeps me from having a full blown PTSD panic attack.

Now if you're talking about doctors who just rubber stamp a card with a list of conditions in order to advance an agenda, I agree.
 
2013-12-28 10:51:58 AM
I'm all for legalization but it's preposterous what medical illnesses people claim in order to get access to marijuana. Why not just make it legal because it's a personal choice and doesn't hurt anyone else?

I don't buy into the "weed can cure everything" argument anymore than I buy into the "hemp can save the economy" argument. In fact, I fear the notion that the best way to liberalize something is to get the government to approve it for regulatory purposes. The better argument is where in the Constitution does the federal government find the authority to criminalize marijuana?  Or mandate health care?  Or spy on its citizens?

Who's with me?
 
2013-12-28 10:54:20 AM

jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.


Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student
 
2013-12-28 10:57:10 AM
This is bad news for MILK FORCE NINE!
 
2013-12-28 11:05:32 AM
If I fake it, I don't have it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfrueeBmfXo#t=104">http://www.youtube .com/watch?v=RfrueeBmfXo#t=104
 
2013-12-28 11:07:50 AM

duffblue: JohnnyRebel88: This will soon change, but unfortunately for the kid, not soon enough.  Can we get a fund together and anonymously send him a bag of medicinal weed?  I could probably get the vapor tips as well...

I have a glue-coma and back pain can you send me some vapor tips too please?


Opana works well for chronic back pain
 
2013-12-28 11:11:13 AM
hempbeach.com

I think this guy qualified with his bad case of Rage Against the Machine
 
2013-12-28 11:13:06 AM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

For some those symptoms are very real and require medical intervention.  It's laughable that marijuana is illegal in Texas while Prozac is perfectly acceptable when they both do the exact same thing to treat my anxiety.  I don't even get high, it just keeps me from having a full blown PTSD panic attack.

Now if you're talking about doctors who just rubber stamp a card with a list of conditions in order to advance an agenda, I agree.


I'm a marijuana advocate and I use it for a neurological disease I have (which is in remission with pot, and one other medication that has offlabel use). So, I'm not someone who is against it...at all. I also smoke way more than I need for recreation.

Pot is bad for anxiety. Really bad. It can worsen anxiety and over time can also worsen PTSD. There's also anecdotal accounts that it can affect/lessen the efficacy of prozac, though I've seen *no* studies on that, and personally my experience with prozac it hasn't impacted it. It did nothing for my anxiety before I went on the prozac.

I get that people would rather use pot than pretty much any SSRI primarily due to the sexual side effects. I really don't want to get into it on FARK because I'm open about being a sex worker but I also have PTSD (for over 20 years) with hypervigilance and noise sensitivity. Has nothing whatsoever to do with my sex work, but I avoid talking about it b/c of the stupid ass tropes, plus I really don't like talking about it anyway. But, while the pot did help with insomnia and not remembering dreams AND panic attacks, it didn't help at all with the overall anxiety and probably made it worse. I don't take the prozac for PTSD (I take it for PMDD, with which I also had clinical depression and severe anxiety) but it also helped tremendously with that.

Most drugs have components about them which suck. It's almost always a pro/con tradeoff. And prozac takes awhile to get to the 'pros' while immediately you have some 'cons'. And I REALLY REALLY like orgasming. After about six months for me, the orgasm problem resolved. I also got there faster (IMHO) by doing some 'edging' rather than just racing for the gold. ;) I personally think that helped resolve the orgasm problem (and I don't edge now, nor do I personally like edging). But that's purely anecdotal and it may have simply resolved on its own.

The entire point to my long winded shiat here is that while pot may help you with a few things, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by not also trying psychotropics. I hate to sound like someone who found Jesus or something but I had PMDD most of my life and I wish to fark I could go back in time and give my 20 year old self a prozac prescription. After being on it over a year, I'm just...much more even keeled. My perception of things is much better, I'm not as overly sensitive to a lot of shiat. My nightmare ration went waaaay down.

And, I'm just so much happier and more content. Like a huge farking rock I didn't realize I was carrying was lifted off. Anyway I'm just writing all this shiat because I wish I had been diagnosed correctly and treated sooner. And I really don't want to see someone else suffer a minute longer than they have to.

Whatever ends up happening with you, I sincerely wish only the best. I know how farking tough it is.
 
2013-12-28 11:13:53 AM
My buddy's brother has a super mild form of it and you would never know but when he is very high the effects come out, so it's like the opposite of what you want to happen but it certainly has an impact so I could see it working for someone the other way just as easily.
 
2013-12-28 11:19:09 AM
A short documentary about a German man struggling with violent Tourette's syndrome.  It's just incredible to watch. And yes, it's an extreme case, but that's the point.
 
2013-12-28 11:28:10 AM

nickdaisy: I'm all for legalization but it's preposterous what medical illnesses people claim in order to get access to marijuana. Why not just make it legal because it's a personal choice and doesn't hurt anyone else?

I don't buy into the "weed can cure everything" argument anymore than I buy into the "hemp can save the economy" argument. In fact, I fear the notion that the best way to liberalize something is to get the government to approve it for regulatory purposes. The better argument is where in the Constitution does the federal government find the authority to criminalize marijuana?  Or mandate health care?  Or spy on its citizens?

Who's with me?


I am. Always have been on this issue.

Look, if you want to get high, then great... I don't care. But don't be a disingenuous dick and tell me you want to legalize it for the many uses of hemp or because it cures your nebulous, can't-be-substantiated-by-testing disease. Yes, it helps some people with pain and other problems, and I don't deny that. I'm glad I live in a state that has legalized medical marijuana. But I resent the people who fake illnesses or make up stupid reasons why their illness would be helped by marijuana when all they really want is to get high.

If you want to get high, then say it. Don't lie about it and sit there faking twitches before you smoke some weed, then stop your act after. I'm not buying it.

I can believe the guy has Tourettes, but I do not for a second believe that his little performance in the video segment was at all genuine. I can do that, too. Give me lab-tested results, not "Oh look! I'm twitching! Now I'm smoking! Now my twitching is gone! It's a marijuana miracle!"

I used to get so pissed off at people who were passing around "legalize hemp for the economy" pamphlets, because these dreadlocked white kids thought they were  fooling  everybody, and the falseness of their campaign was anathema to me and downright insulted my intelligence. You don't give two shiats about hemp rope or shirts, kiddo. You and I both know you just want to get high.

Glaucoma? Sure. Cancer? Sure. Severe, crippling, chronic pain? Sure. (And now all the stoners are giggling that I used the word "chronic", right? Gods, you guys are predictable little cretins.)  But diseases which are essentially "I do this thing that is uncomfortable, but if I smoke weed I stop doing it"? No. Not unless you can back up your findings with more than just, "See? I smoked weed and I stopped doing that thing I hate."  I want laboratory tests. I want double-blind tests. Give some people with Tourettes real weed, and some fake weed, and see if they all stop twitching, or if only the ones with real weed stop twitching. Give it to them in food or some other non-detectable way. Put some other medication in the non-weed stuff to make people feel a little floaty, so they'll think they got the "real" stuff and fake their symptoms stopping... Or watch as the people with real Tourettes (instead of faking it, like I suspect this guy and Doctor Dude in TFA did)  don't stop twitching with the real stuff.

I'm not against people getting high. I'm against being lied to about it. Man up, say what you want, and if you can't have it under current laws in your state, move somewhere that allows your habit instead of trying to fool people with your clever ruse.
 
2013-12-28 11:38:41 AM

uber humper: Will there ever be a cure for sobriety?


The sweet release of death. In the meantime there is alcohol and pot for those of us for whom the bell has not yet rung.
 
2013-12-28 11:40:28 AM

Stone Meadow: The sweet release of death. In the meantime there is alcohol and pot for those of us for whom the bell has not yet rung

tolled.

Dammit...farked that up!
 
2013-12-28 11:48:23 AM

Stone Meadow: Stone Meadow: The sweet release of death. In the meantime there is alcohol and pot for those of us for whom the bell has not yet rungtolled.

Dammit...farked that up!


Penalty bong hit.
 
2013-12-28 11:50:07 AM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student


That's not the point.

The point is that unlike other meds, pot is not dispensed with any clinical credibility. I've been to a few dispensaries and I don't see patients being seen by a trained staff, I see stoners throwing away their sobriety. Yes it helps cancer patients and others but until there's some credible discipline around dispensing, it's a farce.
 
2013-12-28 11:56:58 AM

lohphat: Matrix Flavored Wasabi: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student

That's not the point.

The point is that unlike other meds, pot is not dispensed with any clinical credibility. I've been to a few dispensaries and I don't see patients being seen by a trained staff, I see stoners throwing away their sobriety. Yes it helps cancer patients and others but until there's some credible discipline around dispensing, it's a farce.


www.tokeofthetown.com

Looks Legit
 
2013-12-28 12:07:40 PM

Twitch Boy: This is bad news for MILK FORCE NINE!


That's classic.
 
2013-12-28 12:14:43 PM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student


So, does that property counteract the degenerative properties shown in the Harvard study released a few weeks ago linking marijuana use to increased mental illness in young people?
 
2013-12-28 12:39:02 PM

lohphat: Matrix Flavored Wasabi: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student

That's not the point.

The point is that unlike other meds, pot is not dispensed with any clinical credibility. I've been to a few dispensaries and I don't see patients being seen by a trained staff, I see stoners throwing away their sobriety. Yes it helps cancer patients and others but until there's some credible discipline around dispensing, it's a farce.


The farce is the silly 80yo prohibition.
 
2013-12-28 12:40:10 PM

bhcompy: Matrix Flavored Wasabi: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This. I have no position on the legality of marijuana, but the "symptoms" that people qualify for it medically is laughable.

Is this where you show us your PhD in neuroscience with a specialization in the psychopharmacology of cannabis? There are 80 different cannabinoids in whole marijuana and we don't fully understand the cannabinoid system, but it has control over many many other systems in the brain. That and there is primary literature (in humans and animals, more in animals) backing up its use as a neuroprotectant and as medicine for a very wide variety of disorders.

/neuro grad student

So, does that property counteract the degenerative properties shown in the Harvard study released a few weeks ago linking marijuana use to increased mental illness in young people?


YES!
One is science, the other is derp.
 
2013-12-28 12:45:01 PM
I better go to Wiki and see if there is actual science, research and literature on medicinal use of marijuana before The State Narcotic Accident of 193x.

Well, what do you know,,,
Let's start at 3,000BC or so,,,
 
2013-12-28 01:38:49 PM
Lady Indica: Inquisitive Inquisitor: jayphat: lohphat: Just say you have "anxiety" and you'll get all the "medicine" you need.

This.

For some those symptoms are very real and require medical intervention. I don't even get high, it just keeps me from having a full blown PTSD panic attack.

Now if you're talking about doctors who just rubber stamp a card with a list of conditions in order to advance an agenda, I agree.

I'm a marijuana advocate and I use it for a neurological disease I have (which is in remission with pot, and one other medication that has offlabel use). So, I'm not someone who is against it...at all. I also smoke way more than I need for recreation.

Pot is bad for anxiety. Really bad.

The number of people who are self-medicating with pot, instead of get the medicines they truly need is enormous. In the US alone, I'll bet (not being attached in any way to the medical or pot communities), There are millions that have covered their symptoms with a pot glaze, and after a few years, they have an addiction that usually aggravate the problems, along with the added legal issues.

My son (step) is one. His anger is immense and pot does calm him, but he is never without it. His anger and irrationality returns with the withdrawl and it goes right back to the depression. But, he also gets the lethergy that pot is noted for. He's 35 (ish) and still working in a convenience store, though he has many solid talents, such as musician, inventiveness (he can make a bong outta anything), and  is a whiz as a DJ or radio host. But his pot addiction doesn't allow him to do anything more than a couple of months. It ain't just not wanting to work, he left our house once (ONCE!) and, in two years, he had lost his job, lost his GF, got evicted and was living in a garage. He's now had this job foe a couple of years, has settled with himself a little, but the addiction is more important than anything else.

It's addictable, I've seen it. It may be a mental as opposed to a physical addiction. But there it is. The elephant in the room. I live in Washington, and voted for the legalization, not for his sake (he's gonna get some, laws or no), but to get pot treated as it should, as a recreational drug that has medical uses. And, boy, are they screwing that up. I hope Colorado gets it right, cause I don't want Washington to be the example to follow.

/sorry 'bout the Wall of Text
//Medical use should be dispensed by Pharmacies
///Recreational use should be sold alongside alcohol
 
2013-12-28 01:39:18 PM
Geeze how hard can it be.  All you have to do is fake...

depression...
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pain...
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obsessive compulsive disorder...
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or even PMS...
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They'll give you medical pot for almost anything
 
2013-12-28 01:42:06 PM

dbrunker: Geeze how hard can it be.  All you have to do is fake...

depression...
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pain...
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obsessive compulsive disorder...
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or even PMS...
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They'll give you medical pot for almost anything


So, we have that goin' for us, which is nice
 
2013-12-28 02:41:11 PM
PISS OUT MY ASS
 
2013-12-28 02:43:32 PM
So this is the push for medical cocaine?

Vote YES on prop 208.
 
2013-12-28 03:00:40 PM

ReverendJynxed: So this is the push for medical cocaine?

Vote YES on prop 208.


As soon as hookers covered under Obamacare
 
2013-12-28 03:07:00 PM
ZeroCorpse:

I can believe the guy has Tourettes, but I do not for a second believe that his little performance in the video segment was at all genuine. I can do that, too. Give me lab-tested results, not "Oh look! I'm twitching! Now I'm smoking! Now my twitching is gone! It's a marijuana miracle!"

..


The guy said in a voice-over "What this gives me inside of a minute and a half is a steady hand, a steady voice.. "

And in the video he was still twitching immediately after he had used cannabis.

Now, I grant you that I don't know the guy, or if it's not some act, but he didn't present the image of a person who smoked, then literally in the next instant was relieved of all his ticks on video.

Starting at roughly 30 seconds, he is definitely without his ticks, though does an impression of them for a brief time, looking different than his other ticks. It makes me think that portion of the segment was recorded well after he imbibed, he has the look of being stoned.  Heh, unless he temporarily broke character, but they'd tell us, right? ;)

At the end of the video, when the newscaster is talking over him, he looks like he may be explaining how he's starting to feel the effects, but of course I'm speculating there.
 
2013-12-28 03:18:53 PM

uber humper: ReverendJynxed: So this is the push for medical cocaine?

Vote YES on prop 208.

As soon as hookers covered under Obamacare


Stress reduction therapy.
 
2013-12-28 04:08:53 PM
Of course it doesn't qualify. Marijuana causes people to say more stupid shiat.
 
2013-12-28 04:15:08 PM

ReverendJynxed: So this is the push for medical cocaine?

Vote YES on prop 208.


Uummm, coke is already all "medical".
Roll again.
 
2013-12-28 04:38:09 PM
Titty sprinkles!
 
2013-12-28 04:52:19 PM
During probation, you could get alcohol with a prescription. So same thing here not everyone can move to colorado. I have to wait until I retire.
 
2013-12-28 08:53:58 PM

bigdog1960: During probation, you could get alcohol with a prescription. So same thing here not everyone can move to colorado. I have to wait until I retire.


Darn that probation. That's why we can't have good things.

Seriously: I don't know what else any medical or legislative body would need to approve MMJ for Tourette's than that video of him vaping up and the twitches completely going away in a matter of seconds.
 
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