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(Reuters)   Toyota recalls another 400,000 vehicles for sudden acceleration. They just can't catch a brake   (reuters.com ) divider line
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2013-12-28 10:23:45 AM  
"The Toyota brake override system automatically counteracts any instances of unintended acceleration, including cutting power to the engine."

You know what else counteracts any unintended acceleration? Hitting the right pedal.
 
2013-12-28 11:10:45 AM  
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2013-12-28 11:50:25 AM  
For the "LOL wrong pedal" folks:

"Three days after Christmas, on Monday morning, December 28 [2009], Haggerty was traveling east on Interstate 78, headed to work, when he says the car started accelerating again. Soon the car had revved itself up to 65 miles per hour.  [...] When he reached the dealership, the brakes and the tires were smoking. Haggerty put the car in neutral. The engine was still revving."

And from two months ago:

"Toyota has denied any safety defects in its cars, arguing that many incidents of unintended acceleration stemmed from drivers who stepped on the gas instead of the brake. But plaintiffs in the Oklahoma case successfully argued that Toyota's electronic throttle system was flawed, causing the car to speed out of control."  (via slashdot).
 
2013-12-28 11:52:43 AM  
Regulators in the United States in 2011 found that there was no electronic-based cause of unintended high-speed acceleration in Toyota vehicles.

But, Toyota said it recalled the vehicles in Saudi Arabia to "ensure customers' peace of mind" and after the trade ministry's "strong request" that software for a brake override system be installed, Toyota said in its emailed statement.


Translation: it may not be our fault that dopes hit the gas accidentally, but we'll suck it up and put this in anyway because calling your customers idiots and telling them to take driving lessons isn't much of an option.
 
2013-12-28 12:10:08 PM  
Unintended acceleration, subby.  Toyotas don't accelerate suddenly.  Unless they're flying off a cliff, maybe.
 
2013-12-28 12:10:12 PM  

jjorsett: Regulators in the United States in 2011 found that there was no electronic-based cause of unintended high-speed acceleration in Toyota vehicles.

But, Toyota said it recalled the vehicles in Saudi Arabia to "ensure customers' peace of mind" and after the trade ministry's "strong request" that software for a brake override system be installed, Toyota said in its emailed statement.

Translation: it may not be our fault that dopes hit the gas accidentally, but we'll suck it up and put this in anyway because calling your customers idiots and telling them to take driving lessons isn't much of an option.


THIS.   The more computers take over driving responsibilities (adaptive cruise control, backup cameras, ABS, etc.) the more people feel they don't need to pay attention to what the fark they're doing behind the wheel.  As someone with a motorcycle license, since we have to be extra-alert for said in attentive morons, it's all too obvious.  It's too easy to get a license in this country.
 
2013-12-28 12:16:28 PM  

Ivo Shandor: For the "LOL wrong pedal" folks:

"Three days after Christmas, on Monday morning, December 28 [2009], Haggerty was traveling east on Interstate 78, headed to work, when he says the car started accelerating again. Soon the car had revved itself up to 65 miles per hour.  [...] When he reached the dealership, the brakes and the tires were smoking. Haggerty put the car in neutral. The engine was still revving."

And from two months ago:

"Toyota has denied any safety defects in its cars, arguing that many incidents of unintended acceleration stemmed from drivers who stepped on the gas instead of the brake. But plaintiffs in the Oklahoma case successfully argued that Toyota's electronic throttle system was flawed, causing the car to speed out of control."  (via slashdot).


Why do people keep insisting that this is people hitting the wrong pedal? Toyota has been having a problem with this for how long? I guess people that drive Toyotas are the only people that hit the wrong pedal.
 
2013-12-28 01:18:39 PM  

ongbok: Ivo Shandor: For the "LOL wrong pedal" folks:

"Three days after Christmas, on Monday morning, December 28 [2009], Haggerty was traveling east on Interstate 78, headed to work, when he says the car started accelerating again. Soon the car had revved itself up to 65 miles per hour.  [...] When he reached the dealership, the brakes and the tires were smoking. Haggerty put the car in neutral. The engine was still revving."

And from two months ago:

"Toyota has denied any safety defects in its cars, arguing that many incidents of unintended acceleration stemmed from drivers who stepped on the gas instead of the brake. But plaintiffs in the Oklahoma case successfully argued that Toyota's electronic throttle system was flawed, causing the car to speed out of control."  (via slashdot).

Why do people keep insisting that this is people hitting the wrong pedal? Toyota has been having a problem with this for how long? I guess people that drive Toyotas are the only people that hit the wrong pedal.


From the NHTSA investigation, the primary cause of the problem is driver error.

"Of the 58 cases reported, 18 were dismissed out of hand. Of the remaining 40, 39 of them were found to have no cause; the remainder being an instance of "pedal entrapment." One investigator says most of the cases involved "pedal misapplication" - that is, "the driver stepped on the gas rather than the brake or in addition to the brake."
 
2013-12-28 01:25:04 PM  

ongbok: Ivo Shandor: For the "LOL wrong pedal" folks:

"Three days after Christmas, on Monday morning, December 28 [2009], Haggerty was traveling east on Interstate 78, headed to work, when he says the car started accelerating again. Soon the car had revved itself up to 65 miles per hour.  [...] When he reached the dealership, the brakes and the tires were smoking. Haggerty put the car in neutral. The engine was still revving."

And from two months ago:

"Toyota has denied any safety defects in its cars, arguing that many incidents of unintended acceleration stemmed from drivers who stepped on the gas instead of the brake. But plaintiffs in the Oklahoma case successfully argued that Toyota's electronic throttle system was flawed, causing the car to speed out of control."  (via slashdot).

Why do people keep insisting that this is people hitting the wrong pedal? Toyota has been having a problem with this for how long? I guess people that drive Toyotas are the only people that hit the wrong pedal.


Actually, retarded drivers buy all sorts of cars.  Even the Audi S5000 cases were proven to be bogus, not to mention that 60 Minutes set them up and engineered a sudden acceleration incident to make things juicy in their televised segment:

"60 Minutes aired a report titled "Out of Control" on November 23, 1986, featuring interviews with six people who had sued Audi after reporting unintended acceleration, including footage of an Audi 5000 ostensibly displaying a surge of acceleration while the brake pedal was depressed. Subsequent investigation revealed that 60 Minutes had not disclosed they had engineered the vehicle's behavior - fitting a canister of compressed air on the passenger-side floor, linked via a hose to a hole drilled into the transmission"
 
2013-12-28 01:26:10 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: ongbok: Ivo Shandor: For the "LOL wrong pedal" folks:

"Three days after Christmas, on Monday morning, December 28 [2009], Haggerty was traveling east on Interstate 78, headed to work, when he says the car started accelerating again. Soon the car had revved itself up to 65 miles per hour.  [...] When he reached the dealership, the brakes and the tires were smoking. Haggerty put the car in neutral. The engine was still revving."

And from two months ago:

"Toyota has denied any safety defects in its cars, arguing that many incidents of unintended acceleration stemmed from drivers who stepped on the gas instead of the brake. But plaintiffs in the Oklahoma case successfully argued that Toyota's electronic throttle system was flawed, causing the car to speed out of control."  (via slashdot).

Why do people keep insisting that this is people hitting the wrong pedal? Toyota has been having a problem with this for how long? I guess people that drive Toyotas are the only people that hit the wrong pedal.

Actually, retarded drivers buy all sorts of cars.
  Even the Audi S5000 cases were proven to be bogus, not to mention that 60 Minutes set them up and engineered a sudden acceleration incident to make things juicy in their televised segment:

"60 Minutes aired a report titled "Out of Control" on November 23, 1986, featuring interviews with six people who had sued Audi after reporting unintended acceleration, including footage of an Audi 5000 ostensibly displaying a surge of acceleration while the brake pedal was depressed. Subsequent investigation revealed that 60 Minutes had not disclosed they had engineered the vehicle's behavior - fitting a canister of compressed air on the passenger-side floor, linked via a hose to a hole drilled into the transmission"


Whoops.  Forgot the link.
 
2013-12-28 02:02:05 PM  
The Toyota white knights always gloss over the fact that other car companies already had brake override systems in their cars, some with backups to their override systems. Toyota makes pretty good cars, but they only put in safety systems when required or shamed into it.
 
2013-12-28 02:08:49 PM  
I bought a Toyota two days ago. When looking at the car the salesperson said the car has a feature that when you hit both the gas and the brake, the car automatically goes in to neutral until the car comes to a complete stop or both peddles are no longer depressed. I thought that sounded like a weird feature. I figured it was to stop the idiots that ride the brake when they drive. I am sure this is the issue they built this safeguard to prevent.
 
2013-12-28 06:39:10 PM  
Anything to keep these slather asses from jamming up the highway driving in the center or left lanes. I approve of the unintended acceleration.
 
2013-12-28 07:16:44 PM  
Sometimes the "wrong pedal" is because of piss poor engineering. Like those Jeep (Cherokee s?) That had the pedal cluster shifted to the left because transmission hump. Every other vehicle on the road has the brake pedal in-line with steering column. Those Jeeps had more gas than brake there, so panic stops became panic smashes.
 
2013-12-28 09:08:40 PM  
I suspect that when people believe they are hitting the brake but it's really the accelerator, and the car takes off when they think it should be slowing down, that there's a strong tendency to panic and repeat the same action again.

They had studies of this behavior in pilots and/or astronauts.
 
2013-12-29 01:38:36 AM  

dirkfunk: The Toyota white knights always gloss over the fact that other car companies already had brake override systems in their cars, some with backups to their override systems. Toyota makes pretty good cars, but they only put in safety systems when required or shamed into it.


It shouldn't have to come to that.  If you have trouble deciphering how a car acts when you are hitting a pedal, you have no right to be behind the wheel of said vehicle, period.  Retards.  Should. Not. Drive.  Ever.
 
2013-12-29 02:29:55 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: It shouldn't have to come to that. If you have trouble deciphering how a car acts when you are hitting a pedal, you have no right to be behind the wheel of said vehicle, period.


A brake override system can also help if the car thinks you are pressing on the gas pedal due to something like tin whiskers in a sensor, or a flipped memory bit in the computer (although this one may not work if the override logic is handled by that same computer).
 
2013-12-29 02:46:34 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Dr Jack Badofsky: It shouldn't have to come to that. If you have trouble deciphering how a car acts when you are hitting a pedal, you have no right to be behind the wheel of said vehicle, period.

A brake override system can also help if the car thinks you are pressing on the gas pedal due to something like tin whiskers in a sensor, or a flipped memory bit in the computer (although this one may not work if the override logic is handled by that same computer).


A properly trained driver DOES NOT NEED a computer to think for them.  How the F did our parents get around without goddamned nanny devices keeping retards from hitting every house/pedestrian/random object in sight?  Jeesus farking Christ, if  the most basic students of the Fangio, Schumacher, Villeneuve, etc. families not learn their keep without laughing hysterically at the general populace in which they honed their trade?  FFS, Schumacher actually asked a taxi driver in Europe to step aside so he could make it to the airport on time.  That I get, but FFS, everyone else, take some self control, some self responsibility, take the risk into your own goddamned hands and be a farking part of the equation, for God's sakes.  JEEZUS.  The boundaries to which people are so easily ready to reach to in order to acquit themselves is farking embarrassing.  GFY in the most unsdeserving way.  It's what you deserve.  DAMN.
 
2013-12-29 02:48:19 AM  
I had a 1983 toyota celica that almost killed my brother and I due to it accelerating. It floored the throttle on its own, and I could not even slow it down until I turned the key off. Finally figured out it was the cruise control system doing it, but it only happened with the system on but no speed set. Nearly killed us both though. We were going to do mushrooms at the beach, and decided it was a bad omen and went back home after we id the cause and turned off the cruise control system.
 
2013-12-29 05:44:46 AM  
No left for braking? That means no really driving. I miss my old Mitsubishi Galant VR4
 
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