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(ESPN)   Struggling New York Knicks prepare for upcoming trades and coach firings   (espn.go.com) divider line 19
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2013-12-27 11:34:50 PM  
The lesson here, as always: FARK JIM DOLAN~!
 
2013-12-28 12:14:47 AM  
I bet Carmelo Anthony just milks his injury for the rest of the season, he's probably already bought a house out in LA.
 
2013-12-28 02:00:51 AM  
"struggling" is putting it mildly
 
2013-12-28 05:15:26 AM  

Bucky Katt: "struggling" is putting it mildly


Struggling implies effort.
 
2013-12-28 05:56:14 AM  
They should hire George Karl.  I'm kidding the poor guys already had to deal with these ball hogging mooks and chuckers and cancer too.  He's suffered enough.
 
2013-12-28 08:17:24 AM  
 
2013-12-28 10:22:50 AM  
Yeah, damn right there won't be any trades:

Expirings: Kenyon Martin ($1.3m), Beno Udrih ($1.2m), and 3 guys under $1m.
Carmelo: $23m player option next season
Tyson Chandler: $14.5m next season
Amare Stoudemire: $23.4m next season
Andrea Bargnani: $12m next season
JR Smith: $6m next season, player option $6.4m in '15-16
Ray Felton: $4.3m next season, player option $4.5m in '15-16
Iman Shumpert: $2.7 next season, qualifying offer $3.8m in '15-16

The only guys on that list that a team might have interest in from a basketball perspective are Chandler and I guess maybe Bargnani (less than 6 rebounds a game though...ouch). Hardaway Jr. would be a player teams would want obviously, but even the Knicks aren't dumb enough to trade him and his rookie contract. Smith and Felton having player options through '15-16 probably eliminates them from any serious trade talks, even if there was a team that wanted them.

The best part? If Melo forgoes his option and signs as a free agent somewhere else next season, the Knicks will still be at $68m, which is going to be over the cap for '14-15 and only $7m short of the tax threshold.

So yeah, there's no help coming, Knicks fans, and it might get even worse next season, unless you think someone like Channing Frye or Jameer Nelson replacing Carmelo are the answer.
 
2013-12-28 10:32:26 AM  
You can always tell when Dolan is lying -- his lips are moving.
 
2013-12-28 10:41:43 AM  

jayhawk88: Yeah, damn right there won't be any trades:

Expirings: Kenyon Martin ($1.3m), Beno Udrih ($1.2m), and 3 guys under $1m.
Carmelo: $23m player option next season
Tyson Chandler: $14.5m next season
Amare Stoudemire: $23.4m next season
Andrea Bargnani: $12m next season
JR Smith: $6m next season, player option $6.4m in '15-16
Ray Felton: $4.3m next season, player option $4.5m in '15-16
Iman Shumpert: $2.7 next season, qualifying offer $3.8m in '15-16

The only guys on that list that a team might have interest in from a basketball perspective are Chandler and I guess maybe Bargnani (less than 6 rebounds a game though...ouch). Hardaway Jr. would be a player teams would want obviously, but even the Knicks aren't dumb enough to trade him and his rookie contract. Smith and Felton having player options through '15-16 probably eliminates them from any serious trade talks, even if there was a team that wanted them.

The best part? If Melo forgoes his option and signs as a free agent somewhere else next season, the Knicks will still be at $68m, which is going to be over the cap for '14-15 and only $7m short of the tax threshold.

So yeah, there's no help coming, Knicks fans, and it might get even worse next season, unless you think someone like Channing Frye or Jameer Nelson replacing Carmelo are the answer.


For what it is worth, they have a lot of free space after next year.

Good lord, Amar'e.  Good lord.
 
2013-12-28 10:53:21 AM  
Oh well, at least they'll earn a high pick in the upcoming draft. Too bad they have to give it to Denver...
 
2013-12-28 12:12:42 PM  

Palmer Eldritch: Oh well, at least they'll earn a high pick in the upcoming draft. Too bad Thank God they have to give it to Denver...


FTFY, because we *know* Dolan would waste it on some over-rated kid that would turn into a 6.8 PPG/6 rebound/2 assist bench player being paid $8 million a year for 5 years with a player option for 2 more years.
 
2013-12-28 02:24:46 PM  
I don't keep up with the NBA all that much, but: could the Knicks use a center?

Because it looks like one is about to come on the market...
 
2013-12-28 02:39:07 PM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: I don't keep up with the NBA all that much, but: could the Knicks use a center?

Because it looks like one is about to come on the market...


What would anyone want with someone who's knees went out on him two years ago?  Then again, the Knicks would do a dumbass move like that convincing themselves that they can fix him.
 
2013-12-28 05:31:55 PM  

spman: I bet Carmelo Anthony just milks his injury for the rest of the season, he's probably already bought a house out in LA.


That would be the best news for the Knicks.
 
2013-12-28 05:37:40 PM  

Rwa2play: Unauthorized Bratwurst: I don't keep up with the NBA all that much, but: could the Knicks use a center?

Because it looks like one is about to come on the market...

What would anyone want with someone who's knees went out on him two years ago?  Then again, the Knicks would do a dumbass move like that convincing themselves that they can fix him.


That was pretty much exactly my line of thinking.  Who would be stupid and desperate enough to throw millions at a washed up Andrew Bynum?   Why not the people throwing millions at a washed up Amare Stoudamire?
 
2013-12-28 05:50:34 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Palmer Eldritch: Oh well, at least they'll earn a high pick in the upcoming draft. Too bad Thank God they have to give it to Denver...

FTFY, because we *know* Dolan would waste it on some over-rated kid that would turn into a 6.8 PPG/6 rebound/2 assist bench player being paid $8 million a year for 5 years with a player option for 2 more years.


eh.  It's not like Denver has an awesome draft history of developing high draft picks into superstars.  We finally had a decent GM and Coach combo and Cheapass McWallmart Jr blew it up instead of coughing up some dough.

Nuggets recent top 10 picks: Melo, Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Tony Battle, Raef Lefrentz.

Not a who's who of awesomeness.
 
2013-12-28 07:41:24 PM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: I don't keep up with the NBA all that much, but: could the Knicks use a center?


Between Carmelo, Stoudemire, Bargnani, and Chandler, they already have four frontcourt players earning over $10M a year each. I doubt the Cavs would be interested in Bargnani or Stoudemire, and the Knicks aren't trading Carmelo or Chandler, so how would they get him? Or play him once they got him? Then again, with Dolan anything is possible.
 
2013-12-29 01:34:35 AM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: I don't keep up with the NBA all that much, but: could the Knicks use a center?

Because it looks like one is about to come on the market...


Fark him.  Fark him with a rusty garden weasel.
 
2013-12-29 09:10:27 AM  
"So yeah, there's no help coming, Knicks fans, and it might get even worse next season, unless you think someone like Channing Frye or Jameer Nelson replacing Carmelo are the answer."

Wouldn't that be delicious irony if they got Channing Frye back. I remember the press conference when the Knicks said that they would never trade him and that they were going to develop him. And we know how that turned out.

//Knicks fan
///just glad when we lose by 20 or less
////seven to ten years before they will be champions
 
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