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(KSDK St. Louis)   St. Louis-area brewpub makes 'frappicino' beer. Starbucks sends cease and desist letter. Brewpub owner responds with sarcastic letter, check for $6 (profit from beers sold)   (ksdk.com) divider line 97
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2013-12-27 08:36:18 PM
I'm surprised they didn't try calling it Cap-Beer-Cino.
 
2013-12-27 10:36:32 PM
So he wasn't creative enough to make up his own name for a drink, gets pissy that he was called out on it, and the kicker is that he couldn't make a good drink to begin with. What a winner he must feel like right now.
 
2013-12-27 10:37:55 PM

real_headhoncho: I'm surprised they didn't try calling it Cap-Beer-Cino.


I'm surprised they had a sale.
 
2013-12-27 10:38:24 PM
Ha. Go bar owner dude!

/hates Starbucks
 
2013-12-27 10:39:07 PM
Bailey's Chocolate Bar in St. Louis has an awesome beer milk shake. Try it out.
 
2013-12-27 10:39:53 PM
Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?
 
2013-12-27 10:41:45 PM
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2013-12-27 10:43:14 PM

nickdaisy: Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?


I beg to disagree.img.fark.net
 
2013-12-27 10:44:13 PM
Doucetastic, considering an owner of a trademark is required to defend their trademark.
 
2013-12-27 10:44:27 PM
There would be no confusion, you see a 6 pack of Frappicino Beers would cost around $8, one Frappicino from Starbucks would be $11.75.

/I enjoy sitting my evening outside of a dunken doughnuts that is across the street from a starbucks, at 9pm at night the place is packed while Dunken is empty, I simply don't get it - unless people are really paying for a $11 cup of crappy mocha.
//I really enjoy the piece and quiet, ice cold day with a medium black coffee
 
2013-12-27 10:45:29 PM

nickdaisy: Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?


www.bubblews.com
 
2013-12-27 10:47:18 PM
Starbucks, one of the most name brand protective  companies, charging 3.50 for a packet of frickin' oatmeal, much less the prices on their coffee, spending less than half at the circle K across the street.  It's a treat, for once in a while, not like many of these snot nosed kids feel is a right. If you feel hat way, maybe you need to be fleeced on the price.
/ A Trader Joes guy.
 
2013-12-27 10:47:42 PM
Starbucks misled." replies that they made the cease and desist request so customers wouldn't get confused.  Apparently Starbucks customers are dumb as rocks.  "Hey!  This isn't an overpriced, tasteless coffee drink with whipped cream on top.  It tastes like... beer.  OMG!  I've been misled."
 
2013-12-27 10:48:18 PM

Danger Avoid Death: nickdaisy: Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?


Fine by me
 
2013-12-27 10:49:05 PM
Had no idea that drink was a trademark. Guess I'll be forced to look up the generic name out of curiosity.
 
2013-12-27 10:49:05 PM
Coffee and beer follow the fruitcake formula.

Coffee = good, Beer = great, CoffeeBeer = nasty crap
 
2013-12-27 10:49:31 PM

Misconduc: There would be no confusion, you see a 6 pack of Frappicino Beers would cost around $8, one Frappicino from Starbucks would be $11.75.

/I enjoy sitting my evening outside of a dunken doughnuts that is across the street from a starbucks, at 9pm at night the place is packed while Dunken is empty, I simply don't get it - unless people are really paying for a $11 cup of crappy mocha.
//I really enjoy the piece and quiet, ice cold day with a medium black coffee


I so misread that as Drunken Donuts.
Which, come to think of it, sounds like an awesome idea, a bar and bakery together. Come for the cirrhosis, stay for the diabeetus...
/drunk
 
2013-12-27 10:49:43 PM
I hate Starbucks but fark that passive aggressive little redneck with a stick. Sounds like a real douchebag. Who makes shiatty beer.
 
2013-12-27 10:51:10 PM
Can't wait for advent of the time machine when some coffee company lawyer takes it back to 1978 and tells some TV show to stop production.
 
2013-12-27 10:52:33 PM
Here's a fight you hope both lose.
 
2013-12-27 10:52:59 PM
I like the snark.  I'll go to his pub the next time I'm in St.Louis, which will likely be never.
 
2013-12-27 10:54:05 PM
Cottleville is on Fark? Did Florida run out of idiots?

/cottleville cops will pull you over for doing two over the limit of 30, everywhere within the city limits
//IT'S A LIMIT, NOT A SUGGESTION
///kept the ticket, and a copy of a friends for "32 in a 30".

globalwarmingpraiser: Bailey's Chocolate Bar in St. Louis has an awesome beer milk shake. Try it out. pretty much everything.


FTFthis.
 
2013-12-27 10:54:25 PM
From TFA: "NewsChannel 5 reached out to Starbucks for comment on the situation."

Stop doing this. You do not "reach out" to sources. You simply try to contact them. You might call them, or email them, or even try to get them through Facebook, but you  do not f*cking "reach out" to them.

God damn it, stop talking like some New Age asshole from 1983. You are a NEWS ORGANIZATION. Jesus Farking Christ, stop it with this shiat.
 
2013-12-27 10:55:42 PM

BitwiseShift: Can't wait for advent of the time machine when some coffee company lawyer takes it back to 1978 and tells some TV show to stop production.


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Too late. It's now a fixed point. Even the Doctor couldn't do anything about it.
 
2013-12-27 10:56:19 PM
cardex:
Coffee and beer follow the fruitcake formula.
Coffee = good, Beer = great, CoffeeBeer = nasty crap


You have never enjoyed a good coffee stout, I am guessing.
 
2013-12-27 10:57:25 PM

MadAzza: God damn it, stop talking like some New Age asshole from 1983. You are a NEWS ORGANIZATION. Jesus Farking Christ, stop it with this shiat.


I worked there forever ago- it's the station ethos. They want to be perceived like a serious national news outlet, so they have to talk like them.

/the sports dept people are cool
//Hi Andy, I know you're reading this story and thread
 
2013-12-27 10:58:59 PM
Oh yeah, and my original point that I didn't make- 40 minutes away counts as "St. Louis-area"?

That must mean that out here in WestCo I'm living in "East St. Louis-area".
 
2013-12-27 11:00:25 PM

Misconduc: There would be no confusion, you see a 6 pack of Frappicino Beers would cost around $8, one Frappicino from Starbucks would be $11.75.

/I enjoy sitting my evening outside of a dunken doughnuts that is across the street from a starbucks, at 9pm at night the place is packed while Dunken is empty, I simply don't get it - unless people are really paying for a $11 cup of crappy mocha.
//I really enjoy the piece and quiet, ice cold day with a medium black coffee


Starbucks doesn't sell coffee, there's to much sugar, syrup, chocolate and whip cream in those things for it to qualify as such. People biatch about fast food being unhealthy, some of their "coffee" drinks are upwards of 500 calories.
 
2013-12-27 11:01:21 PM

grinding_journalist: MadAzza: God damn it, stop talking like some New Age asshole from 1983. You are a NEWS ORGANIZATION. Jesus Farking Christ, stop it with this shiat.

I worked there forever ago- it's the station ethos. They want to be perceived like a serious national news outlet, so they have to talk like them.

/the sports dept people are cool
//Hi Andy, I know you're reading this story and thread


They're all doing it now, that "we reached out" nonsense, and it pisses me off.

I need a beer.

/bitter ex-journalist
 
2013-12-27 11:02:17 PM

DyslexNick: cardex:
Coffee and beer follow the fruitcake formula.
Coffee = good, Beer = great, CoffeeBeer = nasty crap

You have never enjoyed a good coffee stout, I am guessing.


I agree! Founders Breakfast Stout is one of my top 5 favorite beers!

On a side note...I got a brewery kit for Christmas! :-)
 
2013-12-27 11:02:17 PM

Ex-Texan: Starbucks, one of the most name brand protective  companies, charging 3.50 for a packet of frickin' oatmeal, much less the prices on their coffee, spending less than half at the circle K across the street.  It's a treat, for once in a while, not like many of these snot nosed kids feel is a right. If you feel hat way, maybe you need to be fleeced on the price.
/ A Trader Joes guy.


Except the cups at TJs are so effing small and they start giving you the stink eye after your fourth or fifth refill.
 
2013-12-27 11:02:36 PM

DyslexNick: cardex:
Coffee and beer follow the fruitcake formula.
Coffee = good, Beer = great, CoffeeBeer = nasty crap

You have never enjoyed a good coffee stout, I am guessing.


That's because there isn't one.

Beer-snob thread!
 
2013-12-27 11:02:37 PM

DyslexNick: cardex:
Coffee and beer follow the fruitcake formula.
Coffee = good, Beer = great, CoffeeBeer = nasty crap

You have never enjoyed a good coffee stout, I am guessing.


Good? No. Been the test subject for 10 diffrent home brews that taste like stale cat piss? Yes.

/ my GM makes a great chocolate stout and has been working on a mocha beer.
 
2013-12-27 11:03:45 PM
I was almost with him, despite the fact he's pretty clearly in the wrong, until I read the stupid little PPPPPPPPS'es.
 
2013-12-27 11:04:02 PM

Danger Avoid Death: nickdaisy: Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?


img.fark.net

I accept your terms.
 
2013-12-27 11:07:29 PM
I'm calling shenanigans on this. Anessa Owen Kramer = Owns Rare Namesake. Really?

Plus in the long lead up to the actual C&D she refers to her client over and over as Starbucks Coffee Co. but the actual demand is made on behalf of Starbucks Corporation, an entity not mentioned anywhere else in the missive.

Fake.
 
2013-12-27 11:09:54 PM

AFKobel: Doucetastic, considering an owner of a trademark is required to defend their trademark.


Exactly. Trademarks are not like Copyright or Patents, you have to defend them or lose them. Many, App Store to Zipper, have been lost because the company didn't manage to stop them becoming generic terms. The way to do that is send a C+D letter to anyone using it for their generic products.

I prefer Costa Coffee here (they pay tax for one) but have to side with Starbucks on this matter.

/Also didn't know Frappuchino was a trademark.
 
2013-12-27 11:09:55 PM

Johnny Bananapeel: Ex-Texan: Starbucks, one of the most name brand protective  companies, charging 3.50 for a packet of frickin' oatmeal, much less the prices on their coffee, spending less than half at the circle K across the street.  It's a treat, for once in a while, not like many of these snot nosed kids feel is a right. If you feel hat way, maybe you need to be fleeced on the price.
/ A Trader Joes guy.

Except the cups at TJs are so effing small and they start giving you the stink eye after your fourth or fifth refill.


Are you one of those people who spends 5 minutes at the free trader joes coffee shot bar, putting milk, and sugar into it, just to get it "right"?  Or are you one the people who goes repeatedly up to the free samples bar?


Either way, I hate you.  I never take any of the free shiat.  However, it's located in an integral"turning" corner of my local trader joes, and there is always a line of low lifes looking for free shiat, makes it impossible to turn that corner, and get my shopping done.
 
2013-12-27 11:12:17 PM
I always find it amazing when people complain about Wal-Mart are the same who probably enjoy Apple products and Starbucks.
 
2013-12-27 11:12:31 PM
I bet they cash the check.
 
2013-12-27 11:14:20 PM
www.nwmicrobrews.com

This was the first craft beer I ever had, back in the mid-90s.  I remember it being the most gloriously delicious thing I'd ever tasted.  If they still make it, I hope it hasn't suffered as much as other Red Hook brews have over the years.
 
2013-12-27 11:14:27 PM
For alcohol and caffeine, nothing beats a House Cappuchino at the Tosca Cafe in San Francisco. It ruined me for life.

www.tablehopper.com
 
2013-12-27 11:14:28 PM
Starbucks is overpriced. Small breweries are pretentious. Beer is crappy, bitter pisswater swill.

I deem this story to have no winners, whatsoever.
 
2013-12-27 11:21:01 PM

nickdaisy: Alcohol is a tremendously dangerous drug that is best avoided. I am highly skeptical of any if the science that suggest drinking alcohol can be beneficial for one's health. Such findings would seem to be precisely in keeping with the interests of the alcohol industry.

The best approach is to not drink alcohol at all, ever.

Who's with me?


Then go back to living as a stone age hunter gatherer then. Why do you think humans stopped to settle and farm land for in the first place?
 
2013-12-27 11:21:43 PM
I make something I call a fappacino.

Hey Starbucks, come at me, bro!
 
2013-12-27 11:25:52 PM

SpdrJay: I make something I call a fappacino.

Hey Starbucks, come at me, bro!


Do you whip it by hand?
 
2013-12-27 11:29:29 PM
Other than the euphoric feeling of drunkenness, which I no longer find amusing, I cannot think of a single reason to ingest alcohol. Yet I can think of dozens not to consume this vial drug.

After careful review I've decided that nitrous oxide is really the only drug that, on the balance, might be worth the cost. Nitrous is (in many places) legal, cheap, and from what I have read, virtually harmless.
 
2013-12-27 11:30:02 PM
If I had a dollar for every farking time I had to get my trademark lawyer to write a letter to a farking ignoramus who uses my trademark without even doing a farking FREE trademark search...I'd still be spending way too much an attorneys.  Still amazes me how many people trademark things that already have an existing trademark on them
 
2013-12-27 11:30:22 PM
Eh. So they sent a check for profits and agrees to change the name. Why is this a news story
 
2013-12-27 11:31:05 PM
Did it taste like burned beans and ass? That would account for the confusion.
 
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