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2013-12-27 01:10:40 PM

cgraves67: If this goes before the SCOTUS, would it imperil the whole Patriot Act?


Oh please, please, make it so.
 
2013-12-27 01:10:44 PM
So this judge basically decided the ends justify the means. What a farking maroon.
 
2013-12-27 01:10:50 PM
That's why I try to insert "Fark Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul" into every phone conversation and online post.

/just for the fun of it
//hi NSA
///Fark Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul
 
2013-12-27 01:11:05 PM

JolobinSmokin: Republican controlled house does absolutely nothing about this thru legislation while bashing Obama.


Yep.  And I remember when the president was responsible for stuff from time to time.
 
2013-12-27 01:11:15 PM
U.S. District Judge William Pauley said in a written opinion that the program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaida's terror network by connecting fragmented and fleeting communications.

Bullshiat.

Farking bullshiat.
 
2013-12-27 01:11:16 PM
Duck Dynasty is dead, now what?
 
2013-12-27 01:11:27 PM

cgraves67: If this goes before the SCOTUS, would it imperil the whole Patriot Act?


Not with the current fear-mongering conservative majority bench.
 
2013-12-27 01:11:35 PM
Or, in other words, fark your right to privacy, and fark your right not to have non warrant wire tapping done to your phone. What's next? Warrentless searches of my car? My home? Arrests without probable cause? Jail terms without due process and legal representation?

/welcome to the new world, where the terrorists have won, and we not only bend over to suck their dicks, but we give up our rights as well
 
2013-12-27 01:11:39 PM
Can you hear me now? I hear everything.
 
2013-12-27 01:11:47 PM

SDRR: blacksharpiemarker: [www.infowars.com image 482x360]

"That argument has no traction here. Because without all the data points, the government cannot be certain it connected the pertinent ones," he said.


Why does this judge hate America?


He gets paid to, most likely.
 
2013-12-27 01:11:51 PM

violentsalvation: A couple weeks ago a different federal judge said the opposite.


So the questions are:
- How quickly can we get this to SCOTUS, now that there's conflicting case law?
- Is there any chance that five members of SCOTUS will be sane on this issue?
 
2013-12-27 01:12:07 PM
I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?
 
2013-12-27 01:13:25 PM

make me some tea: Take it to SCOTUS.


The fascist majority will gladly uphold the government's iron grip on us, just like it felates corporations.
 
2013-12-27 01:13:28 PM

cgraves67: If this goes before the SCOTUS, would it imperil the whole Patriot Act?


Not if you're even remotely familiar with the current court. Spoiler Alert: Scalia, Alito, and Thomas are douchenozzles.
 
2013-12-27 01:13:41 PM
Good to see at least on Judge understands what's going on.
 
2013-12-27 01:13:45 PM
Allah, bomb, jihad, Muhammad, pressure cooker backpack.  Hi NSA! Do you watch me touch myself when I'm on skype with a number of girls from the Niagara Falls area?
 
2013-12-27 01:14:03 PM
I don't care what side of the political fence you sit on, we ALL need to make this an issue in 2014 because the ONLY way this will stop is if we elect Congresscritters that will reign in the NSA.
 
2013-12-27 01:14:11 PM
He added that such a program, if unchecked, "imperils the civil liberties of every citizen"

But go right ahead.
 
2013-12-27 01:14:26 PM

blacksharpiemarker: [www.infowars.com image 482x360]


While I disagree with the NSA program in its entirety, this historical quote has, and always has been, absolute crap.  Every law is a giving up of freedom and liberty for security.  It's the basis of any and all civilized society, in definition and in practice.
 
2013-12-27 01:14:42 PM

blacksharpiemarker: [www.infowars.com image 482x360]


You know how Franklin was the one who was the first to originate that quote?

/except he wasn't
//but keep repeating it often enough and it'll become fact
 
2013-12-27 01:14:43 PM

genner: Duck Dynasty is dead, now what?


Honey Boo Boo reruns?
 
2013-12-27 01:14:50 PM

quizzical: TFA:   Pauley said the fact that the ACLU would never have learned about an order authorizing collection of telephony metadata related to its telephone numbers but for Snowden's disclosures added "another level of absurdity in this case."
"It cannot possibly be that lawbreaking conduct by a government contractor that reveals state secrets -- including the means and methods of intelligence gathering -- could frustrate Congress's intent. To hold otherwise would spawn mischief," he wrote.

The government might have been doing something illegal, but because it was illegal for Snowden to reveal that fact, , no one can take action to investigate the possible illegality of the government's actions?  Bullshiat.


Summary of judgment: This is a super neato system that gives the government enormous abilities to collect and monitor everything and you can always trust the government and the government would never abuse this so that means it doesn't violate the 4th Amendment because shut up.
 
2013-12-27 01:15:31 PM

indarwinsshadow: I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?


not really, with all other countries doing the same things to their people.... we'd be on our own.
 
2013-12-27 01:15:38 PM

indarwinsshadow: I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?


Wrestling?
Not so much.
Ya'll speak French up there, eh?

There is a history, in France, of citizenry reassuming the distribution of wealth.
 
2013-12-27 01:16:45 PM

ToastTheRabbit: indarwinsshadow: I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?

not really, with all other countries doing the same things to their people.... we'd be on our own.


And that would be because corporations laugh at your silly nationalism and leverage it for PROFIT.
 
2013-12-27 01:16:56 PM
Well, the terrorists hate us for our freedom, right? So if we give it all up, problem solved.
 
2013-12-27 01:17:04 PM
Yeah, but who watches the watchers?
 
2013-12-27 01:17:07 PM

slayer199: I don't care what side of the political fence you sit on, we ALL need to make this an issue in 2014 because the ONLY way this will stop is if we elect Congresscritters that will reign in the NSA.


But but but we have to save Phil first!
 
2013-12-27 01:17:09 PM
Oh hey, lets rule as absolutely narrowly as possible and dodge EVERY SINGLE LEGAL QUESTION regarding the issue at hand, while doing absolutely nothing and twisting basic logic. Difficulty: saying that clearly congress can handle this as it's not like it's a fourth amendment question or anything.

See, everything is okay because 9/11!

/facepalm
//it's not like this judge has been biased all the way through or anything.
 
2013-12-27 01:17:09 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Or, in other words, fark your right to privacy, and fark your right not to have non warrant wire tapping done to your phone. What's next? Warrentless searches of my car? My home? Arrests without probable cause? Jail terms without due process and legal representation?

/welcome to the new world, where the terrorists have won, and we not only bend over to suck their dicks, but we give up our rights as well


Everything you're complaining about they always could do to you. You're living in some sort of dreamworld if you think otherwise.
 
2013-12-27 01:17:35 PM

quizzical: TFA:   Pauley said the fact that the ACLU would never have learned about an order authorizing collection of telephony metadata related to its telephone numbers but for Snowden's disclosures added "another level of absurdity in this case."
"It cannot possibly be that lawbreaking conduct by a government contractor that reveals state secrets -- including the means and methods of intelligence gathering -- could frustrate Congress's intent. To hold otherwise would spawn mischief," he wrote.

The government might have been doing something illegal, but because it was illegal for Snowden to reveal that fact, , no one can take action to investigate the possible illegality of the government's actions?  Bullshiat.


Kinda like that show cheaters "i never meant for you to find out baby!"
 
2013-12-27 01:17:40 PM

vudukungfu: Yeah, but who watches the watchers?


You can follow them on Twitter
 
2013-12-27 01:17:48 PM

JolobinSmokin: Republican controlled house does absolutely nothing about this thru legislation while bashing Obama.


So how come Obama hasn't just penned and signed an "executive order" to put a stop to it?  I mean, he circumvents the Constitution for everything else he doesn't like.  Why not this?
 
2013-12-27 01:18:02 PM

firemanbuck: genner: Duck Dynasty is dead, now what?

Honey Boo Boo reruns?


When The Pope starts looking good for SNL, I quit.
 
2013-12-27 01:18:17 PM
It's just a few harmless GL-G20's. No big deal.
www.digiturkburada.com
 
2013-12-27 01:18:21 PM

snocone: indarwinsshadow: I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?

Wrestling?
Not so much.
Ya'll speak French up there, eh?

There is a history, in France, of citizenry reassuming the distribution of wealth.


The French really learned how to get a head in life, Lots of heads, even.
 
2013-12-27 01:18:48 PM
Judges do not consider the letter of the law or the constitution, only their own politics. No piece of parchment is going to protect us from the ruling class doing whatever gets them off.
 
2013-12-27 01:19:05 PM

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: JolobinSmokin: Republican controlled house does absolutely nothing about this thru legislation while bashing Obama.

So how come Obama hasn't just penned and signed an "executive order" to put a stop to it?  I mean, he circumvents the Constitution for everything else he doesn't like.  Why not this?


HURRDY HURRDY DERP DERP DERP DERP
 
2013-12-27 01:19:24 PM
Wow.  That's got to be the derpiest legal decision I've ever read.
 
2013-12-27 01:19:33 PM

meow said the dog: Conservative valuations. OM MAGOODNESS 9/11 MADE UP ORGANIZATION OF TERRORISTS MUST DO THE SAFETY KEEPING HOMELANDING SECURITY!


No real conservative thinks that way... that is a Progressive attitude. this is total .... I want my farking country back!
 
2013-12-27 01:19:48 PM

browntimmy: Well, the terrorists hate us for our freedom, right? So if we give it all up, problem solved.


I don't recall the "terrorists" saying that.
I do recall our "elected officials" saying that, eh?
 
2013-12-27 01:19:54 PM
From reading TFA it appears that the judge used the legal rationale of "It's useful to the government, therefore it's legal".
 
2013-12-27 01:20:03 PM

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: JolobinSmokin: Republican controlled house does absolutely nothing about this thru legislation while bashing Obama.

So how come Obama hasn't just penned and signed an "executive order" to put a stop to it?  I mean, he circumvents the Constitution for everything else he doesn't like.  Why not this?


Why not both.jpeg
 
2013-12-27 01:20:06 PM

snocone: master_dman: I'm shocked that one corrupt branch of our government sided with another corrupt branch of our government.

Who ya gonna call?


Why, the Ghostbusters, of course.

And then the NSA can listen in.
 
2013-12-27 01:20:14 PM
Not only will you get over it, you will learn to love Big Brother.
 
2013-12-27 01:20:14 PM
No wonder Putin says he wishes he could control the state apparatus the way the US Government does.  No bully boy tactics required, half the (shiatscared) nation simply insists it's the right thing to do to defend freedom.  Change "Patriotism" to "Fascism" in no more than 5 moves without touching the Constitution once.
 
2013-12-27 01:20:33 PM

siphra: meow said the dog: Conservative valuations. OM MAGOODNESS 9/11 MADE UP ORGANIZATION OF TERRORISTS MUST DO THE SAFETY KEEPING HOMELANDING SECURITY!

No real conservative thinks that way... that is a Progressive attitude. this is total .... I want my farking country back!


All your bases are belong to us.
Move along.
 
2013-12-27 01:21:23 PM

Sim Tree: snocone: master_dman: I'm shocked that one corrupt branch of our government sided with another corrupt branch of our government.

Who ya gonna call?

Why, the Ghostbusters, of course.

And then the NSA can listen in.


I'm wanting the StaPuft guy for President.
 
2013-12-27 01:22:46 PM

indarwinsshadow: I was all prepped to make fun of America...and then thought "hey. That's not funny in the slightest. What happened to democracy, freedom of the press and association and the right to privacy". My apologies to American farkers for my sh*tty first attitude. I don't think what's happened is good in the slightest. My country is going through a similar situation were Adolf Harper thinks it's ok that everyone's business is the gov't and we have very very little input on how we want our country to run. Looks like it's a North American thing. How did we let ourselves get here, and is it possible to wrestle our rights back?


Rights?

Your rights are to be rendered to the reeducation camp set up by Master Gates.
 
2013-12-27 01:22:56 PM

blacksharpiemarker: [www.infowars.com image 482x360]


What imaginary liberty are you giving up?

Jesus christ you people are stupid. Get a grip on reality.
 
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