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(Business Insider)   Watching "The Wolf of Wall Street" with a bunch of bankers   (businessinsider.com) divider line 24
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2013-12-27 11:35:13 AM
7 votes:
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2013-12-27 11:54:27 AM
5 votes:
While Belfort is definitely shown to be a villain, the entertainment value of the movie is in us cheering him on. The whole time I was wanting him to get caught, but also hoping he wouldn't.

I left the movie with a similar reaction as in the article. I felt like it completely demonstrated just how broken the justice system is, especially in regards to Wall Street. This guy lives a life of luxury and excess for a decade, screwing over everyone he can. Goes to jail for a couple years, gets out and barely anything has changed. His life fell apart, but that was his own doing, not the government's.

imo, this was likely Scorsese's point with the film
2013-12-27 12:48:18 PM
4 votes:
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Missed opportunity is missed.
2013-12-27 11:50:01 AM
3 votes:
A LOT of people missed the point to Wall Street too.
2013-12-27 11:48:07 AM
3 votes:

FlashHarry: only a moron would see it as a glorification of crime and excess.


And we've been down this road before, with Wall Street.
2013-12-27 02:54:03 PM
2 votes:
To me, the trend in Hollywood seems to be to glorify sex, drugs, and violence for two and a half hours, then put in 5 minutes of consequences and lesson-learning at the end to justify it. Films that come to mind: American History X, Scarface, and pretty much any other gangster film. In Scarface, Tony Montana ends up dead and lonely with his naked sister making a pass at him; but the movie is held up as something to aspire to by many. Just because there's a twist ending that shows consequences doesn't mean the film isn't glorifying the behavior of the heros/anti-heroes, or villains for that matter. The film doesn't have to condone it in order for it to validate it.
2013-12-27 12:35:51 PM
2 votes:
All bankers, hedge fund managers, stock brokers and the like need to be lined up and shot.
2013-12-27 11:56:24 AM
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: FlashHarry: only a moron would see it as a glorification of crime and excess.

And we've been down this road before, with Wall Street.


Crewmannumber6: A LOT of people missed the point to Wall Street too.


And "The Godfather", and "Scarface", and "Goodfellas", and "Apocalypse Now", and...
2013-12-27 11:40:29 AM
2 votes:

medius: my friend gets a beej in a glass elevator in that flick


That blows on many levels.
2013-12-27 11:03:53 AM
2 votes:
That's pretty much the reaction I would expect from finance people to that film...
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2013-12-27 10:54:23 AM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: i saw it on christmas. it's a highly entertaining film. and if you have a brain in your head, it's pretty easy to get that the main character is an irredeemable villain. only a moron would see it as a glorification of crime and excess.


You don't know many people who work in investment do you?
2013-12-27 10:51:15 AM
2 votes:
i saw it on christmas. it's a highly entertaining film. and if you have a brain in your head, it's pretty easy to get that the main character is an irredeemable villain. only a moron would see it as a glorification of crime and excess.

this reminds me of the idiots who claimed trainspotting was a pro-drug movie.
2013-12-27 06:48:47 PM
1 votes:

The Southern Dandy: Belfort made his money off of others greed.  The investors, even though they may have been working class, with little money, wanted something for nothing.  He appealed to their greed.  Therefore, I don't have too much pity for them.  They jumped in the greed pool without their floaties.....and they drowned.  Meh.


Well that's one way to look at it... if you want to rationalize your lack of empathy.

Try mulling this thought around for a while instead: He took advantage of people's hope for a better life.

Just imagine that you're some poor working class schlub, working your ass off your whole life just to keep your head above water, when some guy tells you that he can help you make a lot of money for a minimal investment. You should be more skeptical, but he seems legit and this is not an area you really know a lot about. But you're a hard working, working class guy, and you're used to trusting people... This could be the lifeline you've always wanted. A ticket out of barely scraping by year after year, and in to some sense of financial security instead.

Sure with hindsight maybe you should have just hung up the phone, but we don't live in hindsight - we live in NOW - and hope is a powerful thing. It's a recipe for some people to be taken advantage of if you reach out to enough of them.
2013-12-27 05:45:08 PM
1 votes:
Belfort made his money off of others greed.  The investors, even though they may have been working class, with little money, wanted something for nothing.  He appealed to their greed.  Therefore, I don't have too much pity for them.  They jumped in the greed pool without their floaties.....and they drowned.  Meh.
2013-12-27 03:18:25 PM
1 votes:
Crewmannumber6:

i saw nothing glorious in American History X. All the violence seemed very ugly in that one. Otherwise I would agree with you

It was disturbing to me too, but I remember slow motion action sequences of Edward Norton beaitng people up and getting the whole glistening torso treatment normally reserved for Rocky. Of course, he eventually went to prison and learned his lesson when a black guy saved his life and his little brother wanted to emulate him; but I couldn't help but imagine budding white supremacists or even non-racist skinheads watching the movie as violence pron.
2013-12-27 03:13:57 PM
1 votes:

NorCalLos: To me, the trend in Hollywood seems to be to glorify sex, drugs, and violence for two and a half hours, then put in 5 minutes of consequences and lesson-learning at the end to justify it. Films that come to mind: American History X, Scarface, and pretty much any other gangster film. In Scarface, Tony Montana ends up dead and lonely with his naked sister making a pass at him; but the movie is held up as something to aspire to by many. Just because there's a twist ending that shows consequences doesn't mean the film isn't glorifying the behavior of the heros/anti-heroes, or villains for that matter. The film doesn't have to condone it in order for it to validate it.


i saw nothing glorious in American History X. All the violence seemed very ugly in that one. Otherwise I would agree with you
2013-12-27 02:47:45 PM
1 votes:

Trocadero: The thing that always gets me about this story (and all the others like it) is just how many gullible rubes you need to make it work. If you get a cold call trying to sell penny stocks, who the fark bites on that? Seriously, you're too stupid not to stick the phone up your butt. It's one thing if you get swindled by Bear Sterns or Lehman Brothers, but some random douche selling obvious crap? It's barely better than Nigerian Princes. He should have never gotten any money in the first place.


 I hate to admit it, but I was a stock broker at a penny firm in the 80's. Looking back I had zero business handling other peoples money, but we younger guys looked to the older guys for guidance. I made a ton of money, I was only 19 without a college degree. My best month there I made 37k, there were many more experienced brokers who made close to a 100k that month, it was insane.

  You asked who bites? Well that's easy, the scripts were polished and we sounded sophisticated and people were greedy.  We would cold call all day long and the rule was for every hundred cold calls you made you would get ten prospects. Out of those ten prospects, one would end up purchasing. Again looking back I think the majority of our clients bought because they didn't know anything at all about the stock market, we sounded professional and they heard on the news about people making money from stocks. They wanted to be a part of that.

  I made some people money, but most didn't. An old saying then that I'm sure is still being used today was " the client makes money, the client loses money, doesn't matter because the broker always gets hits cut" I was in the business for about 4 years, the crash of 87 ended the days of the big bucks. I eventually left and I got wiser and realized that I didn't have a clue what I was doing and couldn't stomach it any more. Over the years I have thought about the incredible money I made and have thought about returning, but after a few seconds of thought I realize that I would prefer to look myself in the mirror instead.

  Like the article, a bunch of us brokers went to see Wall Street when it came out. This was at the time things were really good. We were young making a minimum of ten grand a month. I remember us laughing at the exploits on the screen and really putting Gordon Geko down as a hero. Years later I watched the movie again and I was embarrassed that I used to think that way.

  Always keep in mind when you are looking to invest. Chances are the broker you are dealing with knows less than you do about the market. Chances are his but recommendations are given to him by his firm's marketing department. Chances are you're bring given that stock recommendation because it's posting the highest commission at the moment. Porsches don't pay for themselves.
2013-12-27 12:35:53 PM
1 votes:
/Looks at article.

Yet they wonder why the average American who (on average) makes a quarter to an eighth of a banker pro's take-home pay a year in comparison want to burn them at the stake like a witch...
2013-12-27 12:32:05 PM
1 votes:

UrukHaiGuyz: Trocadero: The thing that always gets me about this story (and all the others like it) is just how many gullible rubes you need to make it work. If you get a cold call trying to sell penny stocks, who the fark bites on that? Seriously, you're too stupid not to stick the phone up your butt. It's one thing if you get swindled by Bear Sterns or Lehman Brothers, but some random douche selling obvious crap? It's barely better than Nigerian Princes. He should have never gotten any money in the first place.

The world is full of lonely and ignorant people. You remember what P.T Barnum said happens every minute, right?

/a rube sticks their phone up their butt


There is no greater crime to some folks than letting a sucker keep his money. We only have to look at the last two election cycles to see that...
2013-12-27 12:14:22 PM
1 votes:
The thing that always gets me about this story (and all the others like it) is just how many gullible rubes you need to make it work. If you get a cold call trying to sell penny stocks, who the fark bites on that? Seriously, you're too stupid not to stick the phone up your butt. It's one thing if you get swindled by Bear Sterns or Lehman Brothers, but some random douche selling obvious crap? It's barely better than Nigerian Princes. He should have never gotten any money in the first place.
2013-12-27 11:53:54 AM
1 votes:
I'm sure they were all taking notes during the movie.
2013-12-27 11:39:28 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: Who doesn't hoot and holler at every movie they attend?


White people?
2013-12-27 11:36:15 AM
1 votes:
Who doesn't hoot and holler at every movie they attend?
2013-12-27 10:59:32 AM
1 votes:

vpb: FlashHarry: i saw it on christmas. it's a highly entertaining film. and if you have a brain in your head, it's pretty easy to get that the main character is an irredeemable villain. only a moron would see it as a glorification of crime and excess.

You don't know many people who work in investment do you?


no... and apparently i'm glad i don't.
 
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