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2013-12-27 11:44:10 AM
Well maybe you shouldn't wait to the last farking minute every year you morons .
 
2013-12-27 11:53:55 AM
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2013-12-27 12:11:36 PM
This can't be true.  These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!
 
2013-12-27 12:11:43 PM
So what if you get your junk a few days late. Big deal.
 
2013-12-27 12:11:48 PM
I gave the UPS driver some shiat today about that. He gave me the finger and smiled. But I did get some late packages, so now I have a couple cases of wine I have to lock up until the 2nd.
 
2013-12-27 12:12:08 PM

edmo: Well maybe you shouldn't wait to the last farking minute every year you morons .


The guy in TFA claims to have made his last orders on December 10.
 
2013-12-27 12:13:08 PM
Amazon gave me a $20 credit for some printer ink that arrived a day late that I coincidentally bought using Prime a couple of days before Christmas (not as a gift). Win!
 
2013-12-27 12:13:49 PM
Life's tough, wear a helmet.
 
2013-12-27 12:15:45 PM
Even Christmas presents don't want to go to Boise.
 
2013-12-27 12:15:48 PM
My understanding is that UPS claimed they could handle all the last minute Amazon orders, but clearly under-estimated the volume and it has farked up their logistics pretty badly.
 
2013-12-27 12:16:54 PM
As long as she's delivering my packages, who gives a shiat..

www.hdforums.com
 
2013-12-27 12:17:46 PM

edmo: Well maybe you shouldn't wait to the last farking minute every year you morons .


Couple that with the fact there was some Global Warming mixed in, I'm surprised the packages left AT ALL.

/remember also a lot of the UPS/FedEx packages go through USPS, and we're in the same fix.
 
2013-12-27 12:19:41 PM

Skail: This can't be true.  These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!


Yea, meanwhile the USPS will spend the next 2 weeks delivering Christmas cards mailed to me 2 weeks before Christmas.

We should go to the way things used to be and only have the USPS ship packages. I miss the "Please allow 3-5 weeks for delivery" blurb on every commercial.
 
2013-12-27 12:20:20 PM
I don't see how it's a fail. It's not like they're slacking off in their truck playing card games. They're trying their best. There is only so much a person can do. Next time don't wait until the last minute to order your gift. FedEx and UPS aren't time traveling robot machines with magical powers.
 
2013-12-27 12:20:43 PM
Those magnificent bastards.
 
2013-12-27 12:20:45 PM
I worked for UPS in NJ for a week. I am surprised anyone gets any package.
 
2013-12-27 12:21:23 PM
This is all just a smokescreen to distract the public from the continuing benghazi debacle.
 
2013-12-27 12:22:27 PM
They were too cheap to hire extra workers for the holiday.

Some were forced to work 100 hours this week.
 
2013-12-27 12:24:04 PM

Mrbogey: Yea, meanwhile the USPS will spend the next 2 weeks delivering Christmas cards mailed to me 2 weeks before Christmas.

We should go to the way things used to be and only have the USPS ship packages. I miss the "Please allow 3-5 weeks for delivery" blurb on every commercial.


This is just a personal anecdote, of course, but I can't say that I've seen the USPS act any slower than UPS or FedEx, in my area.  If anything, I tend to get things faster via USPS, to the point that I preferentially seek out sites that offer them as a shipping option.
 
2013-12-27 12:24:13 PM
I know that FedEx has a policy where if a package is LATE, it then gets side-lined to low priority so OTHER packages don't get marked as "late".  That's how their metrics work.

If they didn't do that, it would cascade into all their other shipments and everything would be "late" and someone's head would roll.

/just ordered tires from TIRERACK yesterday and got them this am with no extra shipping charges.
// ordered 2 things from Amazon yesterday and also got them today!
/// sucks to be the person whose packages were "late" and are now actually at the bottom of the priority list despite what the PR says publicly.
 
2013-12-27 12:26:11 PM
The delivery companies aren't the problem, the NSA is the one that's overwhelmed and can't place bugs on all the packaged fast enough.


blatz514: As long as she's delivering my packages, who gives a shiat..

[www.hdforums.com image 419x549]


You'd think a big company like that could afford to provide uniforms that fit.
 
2013-12-27 12:28:01 PM
The Jacksonville UPS facility is the 3rd largest of its kind in the country. They have the capacity to move 60k per hour. They had a backlog of around 14k per hour. A huge part of this was Amazon Prime customers, Amazon may be looking to limit Prime, or raising the cost so that the couriers can make necessary upgrades because online shopping is only going to grow over the next few years.

I would also like to see USPS numbers. They seemed to have been VERY efficient at deliveries, but they can't do the heavy lifting (they start getting very expensive around the 30 lb level if it doesn't fit in a neat, pre-planned size).
 
2013-12-27 12:29:42 PM
The 12 Days of Christmas just started on Wednesday, so they've got plenty of time.
 
2013-12-27 12:29:56 PM

bighairyguy: The delivery companies aren't the problem, the NSA is the one that's overwhelmed and can't place bugs on all the packaged fast enough.


blatz514: As long as she's delivering my packages, who gives a shiat..

[www.hdforums.com image 419x549]

You'd think a big company like that could afford to provide uniforms that fit.


Right? That uniform is. entirely too large.
 
2013-12-27 12:30:36 PM
FedEx lost one of my packages on Dec 6th.  They still haven't found it.  Shipper won't reship until FedEx tells him that they have given up trying to find it and credits him.  They think it might be in a trailer at their research center in Utah(it was supposed to be shipped from Ohio to Massachusetts) they don't know when they will get to it because of the backup and holidays.  In the meantime I have to just wait.  When they finally do get to it and IF it's my stuff then they will contact the shipper and see what he wants them to do with it.  If he says to ship it to me they will ship it ground and because it's in Utah and they are still backed up it will likely take another week or more.

FedEx sucks,.....  And their people don't give a shiat when they lose your stuff.  I will never use them again because they don't give a shiat.
 
2013-12-27 12:32:06 PM

Mrbogey: Skail: This can't be true.  These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!

Yea, meanwhile the USPS will spend the next 2 weeks delivering Christmas cards mailed to me 2 weeks before Christmas.

We should go to the way things used to be and only have the USPS ship packages. I miss the "Please allow 3-5 weeks for delivery" blurb on every commercial.


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?id=8916342
"For overnight shipping, the post office was up to 50% cheaper. And you can save even more if you use the post office website and have the package picked up, instead of taking it to the post office yourself."

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Saving-Money/2012/1210/Cheapest-wa y- to-ship-your-package-Here-s-how-to-save
"Depending on the weight of the package, it may actually be cheapest to go with Priority Mail flat rate from the Postal Service, which takes just two or three days for most destinations. Flat-rate boxes ship for a fixed price, no matter where they're headed or how much they weigh (up to a maximum of 70 pounds). Shipping a 10-pound package in a flat-rate box to San Francisco costs $10.85, compared with $17.29 for parcel post (which would also take five days longer) and $55.10 for three-day service from FedEx or UPS. Flat-rate boxes are available for Express Mail as well and come in a variety of sizes.
 
2013-12-27 12:33:27 PM

Callous: I will never use them again because they don't give a shiat.


LAUGHTER OL they do not care about losing you because you were the worst customer of they!
 
2013-12-27 12:33:35 PM

Skail: These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!


The efficiency IS staggering.  But when demand exceeds anticipated capacity, there's very little that can be done.

This is the future of employment, by the way.  Most of us will work one month a year delivering packages, and spend the rest of our time on our asses watching Amazon Prime video.
 
2013-12-27 12:34:23 PM

Callous: FedEx lost one of my packages on Dec 6th.  They still haven't found it.  Shipper won't reship until FedEx tells him that they have given up trying to find it and credits him.  They think it might be in a trailer at their research center in Utah(it was supposed to be shipped from Ohio to Massachusetts) they don't know when they will get to it because of the backup and holidays.  In the meantime I have to just wait.  When they finally do get to it and IF it's my stuff then they will contact the shipper and see what he wants them to do with it.  If he says to ship it to me they will ship it ground and because it's in Utah and they are still backed up it will likely take another week or more.

FedEx sucks,.....  And their people don't give a shiat when they lose your stuff.  I will never use them again because they don't give a shiat.


My beef would be with the company I bought it from.  I'm their customer.  Fedex is the shipper's customer.  Your leverage is not with FedEx, it is with the company you bought the product from.
 
2013-12-27 12:34:45 PM

Mrbogey: Skail: This can't be true.  These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!

Yea, meanwhile the USPS will spend the next 2 weeks delivering Christmas cards mailed to me 2 weeks before Christmas.

We should go to the way things used to be and only have the USPS ship packages. I miss the "Please allow 3-5 weeks for delivery" blurb on every commercial.


Because that clearly refers to shipping time and not the time it takes to process the order.  USPS works very well, but screws up sometimes just like every other shipping company.

/former postal worker
 
2013-12-27 12:35:44 PM

Nightjars: Callous: FedEx lost one of my packages on Dec 6th.  They still haven't found it.  Shipper won't reship until FedEx tells him that they have given up trying to find it and credits him.  They think it might be in a trailer at their research center in Utah(it was supposed to be shipped from Ohio to Massachusetts) they don't know when they will get to it because of the backup and holidays.  In the meantime I have to just wait.  When they finally do get to it and IF it's my stuff then they will contact the shipper and see what he wants them to do with it.  If he says to ship it to me they will ship it ground and because it's in Utah and they are still backed up it will likely take another week or more.

FedEx sucks,.....  And their people don't give a shiat when they lose your stuff.  I will never use them again because they don't give a shiat.

My beef would be with the company I bought it from.  I'm their customer.  Fedex is the shipper's customer.  Your leverage is not with FedEx, it is with the company you bought the product from.


Err, I mean, FedEx is the shipper's vendor.

I hate words.  Words are mean, and sometimes the wrong one likes to jump into where it doesn't belong.  I blame Putin.
 
2013-12-27 12:36:20 PM
I had one apparently stuck in a time loop. For a week UPS showed the package being rescanned at the carrier facility. Still don't know if it ever arrived because I left town. (Says it was delivered but the friend checking on my cats hasn't seen it)
 
2013-12-27 12:36:55 PM
But please, let's shut down the USPS and let these guys run things.
 
2013-12-27 12:37:20 PM
They did have one less plane this year.

i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-12-27 12:38:12 PM

edmo: Well maybe you shouldn't wait to the last farking minute every year you morons .


I placed my order for my father's Christmas gift on the 10th of December. It was sent to Mesquite, TX (roughly one hour away) on the 16th and SAT THERE FOR 10 DAYS. Two days before Christmas it was "On-time for Delivery for the 18th" and there was nothing I could do to get them to release it to me.

So not everyone effected by this was a last minute shopper, moron.
 
2013-12-27 12:42:46 PM
USPS was no better. Priority shipping that cost extra and normally takes 2-3 days took over a week. I got in a fight on Twitter with them over it. It was pretty pathetic that they tried to make it sound like my fault that they routed a package from South Dakota to Mississippi via Florida (where it sat for 3 days).
 
2013-12-27 12:46:59 PM

That Not So Fresh Feeling: USPS was no better. Priority shipping that cost extra and normally takes 2-3 days took over a week. I got in a fight on Twitter with them over it. It was pretty pathetic that they tried to make it sound like my fault that they routed a package from South Dakota to Mississippi via Florida (where it sat for 3 days).


Not defending the 3 days part, but the hub for Mississippi (assuming southern Mississippi, otherwise it'd go through Memphis) is in Florida, I think Jacksonville.
 
2013-12-27 12:52:00 PM

BalugaJoe: They were too cheap to hire extra workers for the holiday.

Some were forced to work 100 hours this week.


I worked for USPS one Christmas.  It required 0 training at all, just some 55 yr old woman telling me to read the numbers, and sort em this way and that way.  If you don't mind 3 old guys standing around complaining that (at the time, 1999) $25/hr wasn't enough to stand around and do sorting, or the 12-14 hour days of constant mind numbing work, it's perfect for you.  But at the time, you couldn't wear earbuds (I doubt you can today either), but the drone of a loud warehouse and the constant hum of doing something that boring would just farking kill me now.  But at the time, with minimum wage being $6/hr here in Washington, I was getting paid $10/hr at 19 yrs old and loving it.  Looking back on it, I wouldn't be able to handle that kind of monotony these days...I have to have earbuds to give me something to concentrate on while I work, it helps me stay focused (I'm in new construction now, Plumber).

One of the downsides is I got Tendonitis in my left wrist from doing the same motion over and over for hours on end, and being young and stupid, I didn't mention anything until it was too late and the damage was permanent (nothing painful these days, but there is obvious limited mobility now).  To their credit, the boss running the show was extremely nice and caring, except when I reported my wrist (he was angry because had I told him earlier, I would've prevented permanent damage).

I despise Unions and Government workers with a passion these days, but politics aside, I have a ton of respect for these people now.  I can't imagine working the 7 days a week, 12-16 hours a day, doing mindless numbing drone work; and still managing to maintain enough focus to keep things going in an orderly fashion.  I shudder just thinking about that place.

/distribution plant in Federal Way, WA
//never mark a package Fragile, just wrap it up properly and send it unmarked...yes, some workers do throw them on purpose.
///next time don't order shiat so late
 
2013-12-27 12:52:09 PM
I'm still waiting for something that left White Plains on the 23rd. I can walk to White Plains in less than 24 hours. I'm beginning to think that my package is lost...

Oh and this is USPS. Not FedEx or UPS.
 
2013-12-27 12:57:55 PM

Cheesus: That Not So Fresh Feeling: USPS was no better. Priority shipping that cost extra and normally takes 2-3 days took over a week. I got in a fight on Twitter with them over it. It was pretty pathetic that they tried to make it sound like my fault that they routed a package from South Dakota to Mississippi via Florida (where it sat for 3 days).

Not defending the 3 days part, but the hub for Mississippi (assuming southern Mississippi, otherwise it'd go through Memphis) is in Florida, I think Jacksonville.



Plus, the packages have to be routed through Eagle Nest Sink.
 
2013-12-27 12:59:51 PM

Mrbogey: Skail: This can't be true.  These are private enterprises, not bloated government programs.  The efficiency should be staggering!

Yea, meanwhile the USPS will spend the next 2 weeks delivering Christmas cards mailed to me 2 weeks before Christmas.


Oh yeah well meanwhile meanwhile, FedEx will spend the next 2 months delivering me Christmas postacards mailed to me in August from the nice families a few blocks down the road.

Look mom, I can make stuff up too!
 
2013-12-27 01:01:13 PM
FTA: UPS says bad weather, high volume and a shopping season shortened by an early Thanksgiving are to blame for delivery delays.

That makes no sense.
 
2013-12-27 01:10:38 PM

edmo: Well maybe you shouldn't wait to the last farking minute every year you morons .


December 10th. Learn to read you illiterate bag of deformed dildos.
 
2013-12-27 01:12:59 PM
At least the stuff gets there.  When my Amazon stuff gets shipped via Lasership* it has a 66.66666% chance of getting delivered to my house.  Seriously, 2 out of 6 packages arrived via Lasership.  The other 4 were deemed 'undeliverable' as though my address doesn't exist.  My house was built in the 80's

/*Losership, Lasershiat
 
2013-12-27 01:13:10 PM

Fade2black: BalugaJoe: They were too cheap to hire extra workers for the holiday.

Some were forced to work 100 hours this week.

I worked for USPS one Christmas.  It required 0 training at all, just some 55 yr old woman telling me to read the numbers, and sort em this way and that way.  If you don't mind 3 old guys standing around complaining that (at the time, 1999) $25/hr wasn't enough to stand around and do sorting, or the 12-14 hour days of constant mind numbing work, it's perfect for you.  But at the time, you couldn't wear earbuds (I doubt you can today either), but the drone of a loud warehouse and the constant hum of doing something that boring would just farking kill me now.  But at the time, with minimum wage being $6/hr here in Washington, I was getting paid $10/hr at 19 yrs old and loving it.  Looking back on it, I wouldn't be able to handle that kind of monotony these days...I have to have earbuds to give me something to concentrate on while I work, it helps me stay focused (I'm in new construction now, Plumber).

One of the downsides is I got Tendonitis in my left wrist from doing the same motion over and over for hours on end, and being young and stupid, I didn't mention anything until it was too late and the damage was permanent (nothing painful these days, but there is obvious limited mobility now).  To their credit, the boss running the show was extremely nice and caring, except when I reported my wrist (he was angry because had I told him earlier, I would've prevented permanent damage).

I despise Unions and Government workers with a passion these days, but politics aside, I have a ton of respect for these people now.  I can't imagine working the 7 days a week, 12-16 hours a day, doing mindless numbing drone work; and still managing to maintain enough focus to keep things going in an orderly fashion.  I shudder just thinking about that place.

/distribution plant in Federal Way, WA
//never mark a package Fragile, just wrap it up properly and send it unmarked ...


4 years as a casual, ugh.  They did allow us to wear head phones at least, as long as we took them off when we walked in the aisles.  Luckily we were a small plant as well so we had a few different things we could do.  I hated weekends because I'd be stuck on the flat sorter all day, which is pretty much making sure the mail stays relatively straight and pull out tubs when they get full.

I hated most of the union employees, or at least their non-existent work ethic.  Threw a package in the wrong bin? fark it.  Why should I have to do anything when there's a filthy casual here?  I do have some sympathy for them after a lot of the distribution plants were closed.  Contract states they're supposed to be put into similar jobs, which apparently meant put 60 year old workers that can barely walk out on the street to deliver mail.

/don't get rid of it, just overhaul the whole damn thing
//Hickory, NC
 
2013-12-27 01:14:14 PM

Johnson: I know that FedEx has a policy where if a package is LATE, it then gets side-lined to low priority so OTHER packages don't get marked as "late". That's how their metrics work.


Interesting. I also have noticed anecdotally that Fedex holds packages until the estimated delivery date. This is compared to UPS who seems to always keep a package moving and they sometimes get to me earlier than promised.
 
2013-12-27 01:18:27 PM
USPS was pretty bad this year as well. I just got this package which was supposed to be delivered on the 21st. Even though it says delivered yesterday the 26th, it was just put into my mailbox an hour ago. I also received a torn up letter from a relative in one of their  "Sorry for the inconvenience" USPS envelopes.

 First-Class Package Service

December 26, 2013 , 4:51 pm
 Delivered

DELRAY BEACH, FL 33446
December 26, 2013 , 9:07 am

Arrival at Post Office
DELRAY BEACH, FL 33446
December 24, 2013
Depart USPS Sort Facility

WEST PALM BEACH, FL 33416
December 24, 2013 , 4:42 pm
Processed through USPS Sort Facility

WEST PALM BEACH, FL 33416
December 21, 2013 , 4:34 pm
Processed through USPS Sort Facility

OPA LOCKA, FL 33054
December 21, 2013
Depart USPS Sort Facility

OPA LOCKA, FL 33054
December 18, 2013
Electronic Shipping Info Received

December 17, 2013 , 11:56 pm
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility
WHITE PLAINS, NY 10610

December 17, 2013 , 10:41 pm
Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility
SUFFERN, NY 10901
 
2013-12-27 01:20:43 PM

Psylence: I'm still waiting for something that left White Plains on the 23rd. I can walk to White Plains in less than 24 hours. I'm beginning to think that my package is lost...

Oh and this is USPS. Not FedEx or UPS.


Strangely, when things are sent from one town that's next to another town via USPS, they first get sent to your local regional distribution center for processing. This can add a day or three to your wait.
 
2013-12-27 01:20:47 PM
You think you all have it bad. We ordered something that shipped from Vermont on the 6th. Still no sign and no tracking number provided this isn't the first time no tracking number for international USPS deliveries so that is a valid excuse. I am sitting here mulling about having my credit card cancel the order. If it doesn't show up by the 6th, I will start the process
 
2013-12-27 01:30:34 PM

RandyJohnson: FTA: UPS says bad weather, high volume and a shopping season shortened by an early Thanksgiving are to blame for delivery delays.

That makes no sense.


It confused me too.
 
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