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(Vanity Fair)   "John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr were ... a puberty rite writ large"   (vanityfair.com ) divider line 69
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2013-12-27 11:12:29 AM  
I'm sure they kick-started ovulation in a bunch of teenage girls.
DNRTFA
 
2013-12-27 11:14:01 AM  
Had the Kinks worn tight pants on TV to the delight of sexually repressed boomer girls first, Ray Davies would have been shot and killed in '81.
 
2013-12-27 11:24:18 AM  
Oh yay, the British Imitation.
 
2013-12-27 11:25:31 AM  
Somebody needs to take this clown's keyboard away. Please.
 
2013-12-27 11:32:43 AM  
'Boomers.  Whiny, narcissistic, self righteous people with a simple philosophy: GIMME THAT, IT'S MINE.'

-- George Carlin
 
2013-12-27 11:33:03 AM  
 FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD
 
2013-12-27 11:39:19 AM  
i22.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-27 11:53:05 AM  

zvoidx:  FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD


You should have continued to the part where we had to watch MULTIPLE waves of Boomer nostalgia, from Happy Days to the Wonder Years and China Beach, the endless movies in the 90s about dads that never came to your school play because they were working, Field of Dreams, it goes on and on but believe me folks, just because we weren't at Woodstock or there for Beatlemania doesn't mean we didn't have to rewatch it over and over,
 
2013-12-27 12:08:59 PM  
The article makes a good point that this is just the beginning.

We're gonna get Boomer bullshiat 50th anniversary nostalgia-thons about the greatest decade in the history of life for the rest of.... well, until the last Boomer dies, slumped in his sofa, his remote still in his hand and the television flickering some inane naval-gazing tribute to self-serving myopia.
 
2013-12-27 12:12:50 PM  

Ishkur: The article makes a good point that this is just the beginning.

We're gonna get Boomer bullshiat 50th anniversary nostalgia-thons about the greatest decade in the history of life for the rest of.... well, until the last Boomer dies, slumped in his sofa, his remote still in his hand and the television flickering some inane naval-gazing tribute to self-serving myopia.


And poor, poor you will be forced to endure it all. Good.
 
2013-12-27 12:15:01 PM  
is this the thread where sad-sack mopes try to assign some sort of actual conscious intent on the part of demographic groupings as though those groupings were sentient entities?

the boomer is coming to git you ...ah-hah
 
2013-12-27 12:22:04 PM  
CHAPTER 11
1 But many of you may be wondering, How can I tell when I'm thinking about the right things?
2 What if they're the wrong things,
3 And I wind up making life more difficult for myself,
4 Instead of easier,
5 Which would be just my luck?
6 I'm pleased to tell you, though, that this shouldn't be a problem,
7 At all,
8 Because in spite of everything,
9 Harry gave us an excellent guideline to use,
10 A guideline called the Trinity of Harry,
11 Which consists of Desire, Certainty, and Blame,
12 And is practically tailor-made for our purposes.

CHAPTER 12
1 For example, if you're like me, you don't necessarily know what you want out of life,
2 But you almost always know what you Desire,
3 Whether it's that tasty little number at Saks,
4 Or a hairdo so ugly and unflattering that none of them will ever try to hit on you,
5 Or the one absolutely perfect remark to use on that slut who thinks she's just it,
6 Or someone else's job,
7 Or someone else's ilover,
8 Or a twenty-carat engagement ring,
9 Or a twenty-million-dollar estate on the Main Line,
10 Or revenge,
11 Or bigger boobs,
12 Or a cause you can really sink your teeth into,
13 Or a title so big and important that you can just look down and laugh at the world,
14 Or even children.
15 The thing is, it's okay to have desires like these,
16 And good for you too,
17 Which means that there's no reason to feel guilty about having them,
18 And no reason not to just reach out and grab the object of your desire,
19 No matter who gets hurt.

CHAPTER 13
1 You see, it's about time we gave up all the softness and sensitivity and passivity and patience they wished on us about a million years ago,
2 Because look what it got us,
3 Which is not much,
4 Not to mention the fact that there's just not enough time left to be coy about anything.
5 That's why it's so important to remember the part about Certainty,
6 Which always came easily to us anyway,
7 And makes everything a lot simpler,
8 Especially when you don't have to hide your feelings anymore.
9 Stop trying to see the other side,
10 And making allowances,
11 And holding back because someone you've never met might not approve,
12 And biting your tongue because some idiot in your life would definitely not approve.
13 Be certain instead.
14 About everything.
15 If you have a whim, cast it in the concrete of certainty,
16 And stop second-guessing yourself.
17 It's your whim, after all,
18 And if you can't be certain about your own whims,
19 What can you be certain about?

CHAPTER 14
1 I'm sure that some of you are still dubious,
2 And probably thinking that the Way of Harry is fraught with peril,
3 Because you think they'll stop you from satisfying your desires,
4 And they'll punish you for your certainty,
5 And life will get harder instead of easier,
6 But that's because you've already forgotten about the third part of Harry's Trinity,
7 Which is the most important part,
8 And is called Blame.
9 For blame is the best friend you can ever have,
10 Certainly better than any of them,
11 And if we can be honest, better than each other,
12 Because we all know that we don't really like each other that much,
13 No matter how much we sort of wish we did.
14 Blame is so powerful and great that it is almost a way unto itself.
15 Blame is the slayer of guilt,
16 The enemy of introspection,
17 The destroyer of doubt,
18 And the ultimate weapon of all the oppressed Others everywhere.

CHAPTER 15
1 When you're not satisfied.
2 Find someone or something to blame.
3 Point the finger of blame with certainty,
4 And demand that your desires be met.
5 If your parents don't accede to your desires,
6 Blame them for raising you to be a second-class citizen.
7 If your suitors don't knuckle under,
8 Blame them for treating you like a sex object.
9 If your employers don't give you what you desire,
10 Blame them for maintaining a viciously sexist double standard.
11 If society doesn't conform itself precisely to your desires,
12 Blame society for everything in your life that irritates you,
13 And make your demands for compensation with absolute certainty,
14 And never ever relent,
15 Or "listen to reason,"
16 Or "accept reality,"
17 Or "think about the progress you've made,"
18 Or pay attention to any of their lies,
19 Because no matter what anyone says,
20 Blind unthinking hatred is the most fun you can have on earth,
21 Sex included,
22 And don't you forget it.

CHAPTER 16
1 Another thing that is very important to remember is the unity of Harry's Trinity,
2 Which will not work for you if you use it selectively.
3 If you point the finger of blame without being certain,
4 They will walk all over you.
5 If you are certain without pursuing your desires,
6 You won't have much fun to speak of.
7 If you pursue your desires but are not willing to blame others for the consequences,
8 You will come to grief,
9 Which is to say you will be troubled by doubt and guilt,
10 And other forms of thought,
11 Which is a foolish risk to take.
12 Only when you use the Trinity in all its parts will your mind be clear and free.
13 Only then will the ambiguities and contradictions melt away,
14 And leave you blissfully serene in your certainty.

CHAPTER 17
1 For unlike many of them,
2 You will be challenged when you follow the Way of Harry,
3 Because you are not the only ones who possess this knowledge about Desire, Certainty, and Blame,
4 And you can bet that they will be fearless about finding ways to blame you,
5 For anything and everything,
6 Because that is the Way of Harry,
7 And they were already used to blaming us for everything anyway,
8 As they always have,
9 Since the beginning of time.
10 This means that your resolve will be tested,
11 And they will try every trick in the book to make you think,
12 Instead of them.
/from the Boomer Bible
 
2013-12-27 12:26:16 PM  

zvoidx: FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD


That's where I stopped reading. The author needs a stiff cockpunch for being a condescending douchebag of the highest order.
 
2013-12-27 12:26:33 PM  
Which is a less productive use of time:

1) Boomers whining about everything, or
2) Everyone whining about Boomers.
 
2013-12-27 01:08:57 PM  

give me doughnuts: Which is a less productive use of time:

1) Boomers whining about everything, or
2) Everyone whining about Boomers.


I just figured out how to exploit boomers and extract some of that fat lucre, so as far as I'm concerned, they can whine all day long.

Just like I used to biatch about banks, and then one day shut up and bought bank stock.  Now when they screw people over for profit, I can smile instead of seethe.
 
2013-12-27 01:22:42 PM  
FTA :

the deeper we move into this decade, the darker the events being memorialized and the more nihilistic the fury, with even the mud bath at Woodstock shadowed by the violence months later at the free concert at the Altamont Speedway, where pool cues wielded by Hell's Angels came whaling down.

Pool cues with the fat end hollowed out and filled with lead, no less.

Those Angels really knew how to beat on a hippie.
 
2013-12-27 01:27:01 PM  

contrapunctus: 'Boomers.  Whiny, narcissistic, self righteous people with a simple philosophy: GIMME THAT, IT'S MINE.'

-- George Carlin


So, he was 20 years ahead of his time in stating the fact that they're EXACTLY LIKE MILLENIALS?

/not a millenial
//sorry media, being born in 1979 doesn't make you a millenial. I was getting laid in my high school parking lot before they were even alive
 
2013-12-27 01:34:21 PM  

letrole: is this the thread where sad-sack mopes try to assign some sort of actual conscious intent on the part of demographic groupings as though those groupings were sentient entities?

the boomer is coming to git you ...ah-hah


The boomers invented that shiat. The reason the Greatest Generation were called such was that boomers belatedly decided they should honor the generation that raised them.
 
2013-12-27 01:39:15 PM  

EyeballKid: Had the Kinks worn tight pants on TV to the delight of sexually repressed boomer girls first, Ray Davies would have been shot and killed in '81.


Not sure what that has to do with Lennon getting shot in 1980, but hoooo-kaay.
 
2013-12-27 01:56:26 PM  

Lorelle: I don't understand why conservatives are still defending McCarthy after it was revealed that the dude was gay.




cite
 
2013-12-27 02:17:02 PM  
Was at the Candlestick Park in San Francisco 1966 final concert.

Age 12
 
2013-12-27 02:42:19 PM  

dryknife: Was at the Candlestick Park in San Francisco 1966 final concert.

Age 12


That makes you a real boomer. No question.

The thing is, I keep getting lumped in with you guys. For no apparent reason.
And my first show (age 14) was ELP at MSG on 7/7/77.
 
2013-12-27 02:51:21 PM  

Fano: zvoidx:  FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD

You should have continued to the part where we had to watch MULTIPLE waves of Boomer nostalgia, from Happy Days to the Wonder Years and China Beach, the endless movies in the 90s about dads that never came to your school play because they were working, Field of Dreams, it goes on and on but believe me folks, just because we weren't at Woodstock or there for Beatlemania doesn't mean we didn't have to rewatch it over and over,


And Generation X doesn't do the same bullshiat? How often have we been reliving the goddamn '80s? It feels like decades now.
 
2013-12-27 02:54:03 PM  
The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.
 
2013-12-27 02:55:18 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Fano: zvoidx:  FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD

You should have continued to the part where we had to watch MULTIPLE waves of Boomer nostalgia, from Happy Days to the Wonder Years and China Beach, the endless movies in the 90s about dads that never came to your school play because they were working, Field of Dreams, it goes on and on but believe me folks, just because we weren't at Woodstock or there for Beatlemania doesn't mean we didn't have to rewatch it over and over,

And Generation X doesn't do the same bullshiat?


The quality of music for the Gen X types pretty much bordered on the "I need a lobotomy" level.

How often have we been reliving the goddamn '80s? It feels like decades now.

Hey now, the 80s were damn cool.  The 90s however?  Fark that shiat.
 
2013-12-27 02:56:21 PM  

Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.


Were they a label run boy band?  Yeah.  The first?  Not so sure.
 
2013-12-27 03:00:56 PM  

Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.


And Sinatra was the Beiber of his day.

www.thefranksinatra.com
 
2013-12-27 03:16:22 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: dryknife: Was at the Candlestick Park in San Francisco 1966 final concert.

Age 12

That makes you a real boomer. No question.

The thing is, I keep getting lumped in with you guys. For no apparent reason.
And my first show (age 14) was ELP at MSG on 7/7/77.


Standing in line outside of Candlestick a plane circled throwing out flyers advertising (not yet on TV) The Monkees.
 
2013-12-27 03:18:27 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Fano: zvoidx:  FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD

You should have continued to the part where we had to watch MULTIPLE waves of Boomer nostalgia, from Happy Days to the Wonder Years and China Beach, the endless movies in the 90s about dads that never came to your school play because they were working, Field of Dreams, it goes on and on but believe me folks, just because we weren't at Woodstock or there for Beatlemania doesn't mean we didn't have to rewatch it over and over,

And Generation X doesn't do the same bullshiat? How often have we been reliving the goddamn '80s? It feels like decades now.


Rewatch Wonder Years, Stand By Me, etc. The EARNEST levels of "losing your innocence" and WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN reached epic proportions that were impossible to reach again without the aid of the internet. Every mouthpiece spoke for an entire generation, which never truly happened ever after, we fragmented too much. They created a national narrative based around where everyone was doing when Kennedy was shot and various other things. Very few events were treated the same way by later generations. Forrest Gump lives forever in Boomer Valhalla, having marked all the Stations of the Cross for them.
 
2013-12-27 03:22:48 PM  

Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.


Oh look, it's this very original and oh-so-contrarian line of thinking again.
 
2013-12-27 03:46:15 PM  

Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band.


Except for the part where they were essentially given complete creative control.
 
2013-12-27 03:46:19 PM  

Fano: B.L.Z. Bub: Fano: zvoidx:  FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD

You should have continued to the part where we had to watch MULTIPLE waves of Boomer nostalgia, from Happy Days to the Wonder Years and China Beach, the endless movies in the 90s about dads that never came to your school play because they were working, Field of Dreams, it goes on and on but believe me folks, just because we weren't at Woodstock or there for Beatlemania doesn't mean we didn't have to rewatch it over and over,

And Generation X doesn't do the same bullshiat? How often have we been reliving the goddamn '80s? It feels like decades now.

Rewatch Wonder Years, Stand By Me, etc. The EARNEST levels of "losing your innocence" and WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN reached epic proportions that were impossible to reach again without the aid of the internet. Every mouthpiece spoke for an entire generation, which never truly happened ever after, we fragmented too much. They created a national narrative based around where everyone was doing when Kennedy was shot and various other things. Very few events were treated the same way by later generations. Forrest Gump lives forever in Boomer Valhalla, having marked all the Stations of the Cross for them.


I can get behind this as a gen-x-er myself.  there was really nothing that became a touchstone.  Even the shuttle disaster has basically been forgotten.
 
2013-12-27 03:56:23 PM  
The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.

F--- you, buster; how many gold records do you have?
 
2013-12-27 03:58:24 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band.

Except for the part where they were essentially given complete creative control.


Y'know, I love the Beatle-haters that just spout off BS that they can't google.

Memo to the haters:  Just say "I hate the Beatles" and you're done.  No need to explain yourselves; just leave it like that so we can ignore you.
 
2013-12-27 04:07:14 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band.

Except for the part where they were essentially given complete creative control.


You are correct, Larry.  Mangoose knows that is 100% grade a bullsheet and a weak ass troll.

The labels never told the Beatles anything except "no", and once they got a yes they did everything themselves, including playing their own instruments, writing their own songs, and (greatest shocker of all) having total autonomy in the studio and all the time they wanted.  They called all the shots and then even had their own label.

They were the exact opposite of a label run boy band.

Now if the claim is made that they appealed largely to young girls during the early 60s, well, name me one successful artist who didn't.  That WAS the entirety of the music market then.  The Beatles changed all that. (Not alone, but they were by far the leading influence, with Dylan #2).

/ I enjoy your posts in the baseball threads, BTW
 
2013-12-27 04:09:01 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: The Beatles were the first label run boy band. Anyone that doesn't accept that is probably 60.

F--- you, buster; how many gold records do you have?


EF you too, the Beatles were a boy band, EVERY BAND during that time frame was a boy band. The Jackson 5 were a boy band. The Bay city rollers. Sinatra was a belieber and so was David Cassidy and Donny Osmond. It's all god damn POP MUSIC! There is nothing sacred about the Beatles.

if anything, they are the root and cause of why pop music, and the music industry in general, sucks as much as it does right now.
 
2013-12-27 04:11:23 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: if anything, they are the root and cause of why pop music, and the music industry in general, sucks as much as it does right now.


You are gonna have to back that up with facts or logic or we will have to call it raw stupid.
 
2013-12-27 04:17:25 PM  

The Dynamite Monkey: Cerebral Knievel: if anything, they are the root and cause of why pop music, and the music industry in general, sucks as much as it does right now.

You are gonna have to back that up with facts or logic or we will have to call it raw stupid.


There are no facts and logic to be found in that statement. Raw stupid is putting it mildly.
 
2013-12-27 04:21:14 PM  

The Dynamite Monkey: The labels never told the Beatles anything except "no", and once they got a yes they did everything themselves, including playing their own instruments, writing their own songs, and (greatest shocker of all) having total autonomy in the studio and all the time they wanted. They called all the shots and then even had their own label.


What about...? Eh, nevermind
 
2013-12-27 04:26:46 PM  
to which George Harrison replied, "Well, there's your tie, for a start." That was the turning point, according to Smith, as John Lennon and Paul McCartney joined in with jokes and comic wordplay that made Martin think that he should sign them to a contract for their wit alone

Not impressed
/Link
 
2013-12-27 04:31:48 PM  

The Dynamite Monkey: Cerebral Knievel: if anything, they are the root and cause of why pop music, and the music industry in general, sucks as much as it does right now.

You are gonna have to back that up with facts or logic or we will have to call it raw stupid.


I think I get the point he's trying to make. Only trying, of course. It's the same as saying "Biggie ruined rap music" or "Watchmen ruined comics". There is merit to both statements despite Notorious B.I.G. and Watchmen being paragons in their media. Watchmen had a completely different tone and style than many comics of the day and Biggie did the (then) unheard of thing of linking Hip-Hop music to high society. Shortly thereafter imitators pick up the idea knowing they can ride a wave of popularity, despite not knowing how or why the originals were good. Nirvana becomes Puddle of Mudd becomes Nickleback, Watchmen becomes Youngblood, Biggie becomes every rapper drinking Cristal (sp?) and making it rain whether it makes sense or not. Boy Bands used to be The Beatles, who pioneered recording techniques and vocal performance in their genre. Corporate rock used to be ELO, who kicked ass, I don't really know much about them besides that Rockaria! kicked ass.
 
2013-12-27 04:53:01 PM  

dryknife: Mr_Fabulous: dryknife: Was at the Candlestick Park in San Francisco 1966 final concert.

Age 12

That makes you a real boomer. No question.

The thing is, I keep getting lumped in with you guys. For no apparent reason.
And my first show (age 14) was ELP at MSG on 7/7/77.

Standing in line outside of Candlestick a plane circled throwing out flyers advertising (not yet on TV) The Monkees.


My first show was KISS (1976, DC) with Bob Segar opening for them.
 
2013-12-27 04:58:03 PM  

Lee451: My first show was KISS (1976, DC) with Bob Segar opening for them.



The first half of that show sounds great.

/ Crosby Stills and Nash 1985
 
2013-12-27 05:14:52 PM  

Glenford: zvoidx: FTA:  O, you poor Generation Xers, Generation Yers, and Millennials (bent under the load of student debt as if it were a brick-filled backpack), how I pity thee. Thanks to us Baby-Boomers,

EABOD

That's where I stopped reading. The author needs a stiff cockpunch for being a condescending douchebag of the highest order.


Too bad you didn't have the attention span to finish the paragraph. He's obviously joking there, making fun of the Boomers' endless nostalgia, not being condescending to thin-skinned snowflakes like you.
 
2013-12-27 05:46:45 PM  

Phaeon: The Dynamite Monkey: Cerebral Knievel: if anything, they are the root and cause of why pop music, and the music industry in general, sucks as much as it does right now.

You are gonna have to back that up with facts or logic or we will have to call it raw stupid.

I think I get the point he's trying to make. Only trying, of course. It's the same as saying "Biggie ruined rap music" or "Watchmen ruined comics". There is merit to both statements despite Notorious B.I.G. and Watchmen being paragons in their media. Watchmen had a completely different tone and style than many comics of the day and Biggie did the (then) unheard of thing of linking Hip-Hop music to high society. Shortly thereafter imitators pick up the idea knowing they can ride a wave of popularity, despite not knowing how or why the originals were good. Nirvana becomes Puddle of Mudd becomes Nickleback, Watchmen becomes Youngblood, Biggie becomes every rapper drinking Cristal (sp?) and making it rain whether it makes sense or not. Boy Bands used to be The Beatles, who pioneered recording techniques and vocal performance in their genre. Corporate rock used to be ELO, who kicked ass, I don't really know much about them besides that Rockaria! kicked ass.


I had a screed typed up to respond, but.... I dumped it to refreash the feed.
yes.. that is pretty much what I'm trying to say. its hard to make good points when you are farking on a phone and the keyboard is fighting you.

I do not dislike the beatles. I dislike the notion that half the band is dead, nothing new has come from the band in over 40 years. every year a new hyper expensive box set of the same old crap is put out with a slightly new mix and new packaging that people go freak out over.

they may call me stupid for pointing out that this is all SOP for the music industry and it all started with the beatles, elvis and the etc. I'll just retort that they are pants on retarded for agreeing with me up to the point that I include your favorite band.

I just want people to stop felating the corpse of the beatles and move on.
 
2013-12-27 05:48:02 PM  
Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band.
Larry Mahnken: Except for the part where they were essentially given complete creative control.

None of them could read music. The only songs that can be honestly credited to Lennon/McCartney are ones with three guitars and drums. George Martin *ghost wrote* the rest of the Beatles Catalogue.

Just look at the way everything Lennon did after the Beatles was awful amateur shiate, and examples of McCartney's work seem to be much better if a greater number of creative types are involved.

Make no mistake - the influence of the Beatles is no myth.

But Lennon/McCartney? Hacks. Hired front-men.
 
2013-12-27 06:06:05 PM  

letrole: Mangoose: The Beatles were the first label run boy band.
Larry Mahnken: Except for the part where they were essentially given complete creative control.

None of them could read music. The only songs that can be honestly credited to Lennon/McCartney are ones with three guitars and drums. George Martin *ghost wrote* the rest of the Beatles Catalogue.

Just look at the way everything Lennon did after the Beatles was awful amateur shiate, and examples of McCartney's work seem to be much better if a greater number of creative types are involved.

Make no mistake - the influence of the Beatles is no myth.

But Lennon/McCartney? Hacks. Hired front-men.


Errand boys sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill.
 
2013-12-27 06:50:54 PM  
The author of the article comes off as a prick right out of the gate, to the extent that I lost interest in anything he had to say and stopped reading. That's a basic failure as a writer. You're supposed to hook the reader at the start of your piece, not alienate him.

I see the Beatles haters of Fark are in attendance. I wonder how their minds work. There's a similar phenomenon in the Sports Tab where people who hate baseball go out of their way to post in baseball threads to tell everyone how much baseball sucks. It's not as if they're going to convince anybody who likes baseball (or the Beatles for that matter) to change their minds. In fact, I think that baseball fans (and Beatles fans) look on these thread shiatters as being hopelessly ignorant (and eager to share their ignorance).
 
2013-12-27 07:15:27 PM  

Phaeon: It's the same as saying "Biggie ruined rap music" or "Watchmen ruined comics".


Ahh, the "diet cola" phenomenon.  Great things spawn shiatty imitators so throw them all out in the same bucket.  Not buying it.

.

Cerebral Knievel: I do not dislike the beatles. I dislike the notion that half the band is dead, nothing new has come from the band in over 40 years. every year a new hyper expensive box set of the same old crap is put out with a slightly new mix and new packaging that people go freak out over.


Legitimate point, but not really what you said before.

Cerebral Knievel: they may call me stupid for pointing out that this is all SOP for the music industry and it all started with the beatles, elvis and the etc


Dude you are painting all pop culture here... you wanna get in a club with William F. Buckley and Steve Allen and hate folk art, go ahead.  The fact that it is marketed doesn't mean it's not art -- (that was the point of the pop art movement, AFAIK).

Cerebral Knievel: I just want people to stop felating the corpse of the beatles and move on.


Dude it's a thread about a Beatles article.  Also I did not argue that the Beatles were great, you are free to hate them if you want.  That's OPINION, and you get to have yours.   I just took issue with that "boy band" canard that gets thrown at them and other bands (I've had this argument 50X in sex pistols threads).  Bands that write and choose their own music, play the instruments, and manage their own destiny -- including having their own label and company -- are the opposite of a manufactured boy band.  That's FACT, and you don't get your own.

letrole: But Lennon/McCartney? Hacks. Hired front-men.


LeTrole, good to see you, thanks for feeling we are important enough to stop by!
 
2013-12-27 07:20:13 PM  

Rwa2play: Hey now, the 80s were damn cool.  The 90s however?  Fark that shiat.


Actually, the 90s were awesome. Everything went to shiat after the 90s.
 
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