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2013-12-27 09:11:55 AM
Jason left Christmas Eve dinner and picked up all of the luminaries with the exception of a few.
"I cleaned up the whole block. I left his [the neighbor that complained]. Maybe that's me being a little spiteful about it," he said.

Wow, what a dick.

Alvator had a change of heart and cleaned it up Thursday.

Oh, after the whole holiday was over. Even more of a passive aggressive dick.

"It had nothing to do with religion. It was about bringing people in our neighborhood closer together," Jason said.

 Yes, we do it on Christmas Eve because it has nothing to do with religion.

Look, there's not a war on Christmas. It's more a war on stupid people who think that their religion should be the default mode for EVERYBODY. Knock the shiat off.
 
2013-12-27 09:20:50 AM
"It had nothing to do with religion. It was about bringing people in our neighborhood closer together," Jason said.

Mission accomplished, you dick.
 
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2013-12-27 09:27:51 AM
Christmas is about consumerism not religion.  Besides, if the neighbors were lighting the streets with menorahs and someone complained it would be outrage.
 
2013-12-27 09:31:13 AM
After they say they checked with the local fire and police departments and were given the green light, 300 decorative luminaries were lined along their street on Joyce Road on Christmas Eve.

Maybe you should have checked with all the neighbors.
 
2013-12-27 09:36:18 AM
I don't care if they're overplayed, I still like the Luminaries.
 
2013-12-27 09:38:12 AM
The amazing thing is that these people obviously went to WPIX with this news. This guy reached out and was willing to tell the world that, yes, my Jewish neighbor asked that I not decorate the front of his house for the birth of Jesus, but I purposely left it out there until after Christmas was over out of spite. He volunteered that information for the world.
 
2013-12-27 09:42:31 AM
Granted, it's not like they put up a nativity scene in front of the Jewish neighbor's house.  But I'd be a little annoyed if someone decorated in front of my house without asking me.  On the flip side I don't think I'd be calling the mayor to ask him to intervene.

Lots of asshattery to be had in this one.
 
2013-12-27 09:44:53 AM
"Unfortunately, the mayor's actions were violating to our family," Loran added.

Is it me, or is this sentence terribly constructed?
 
2013-12-27 09:47:07 AM
Yes, the guy was being a dick but why the f*ck did the mayor decide to get involved?  This just got completely stupid really fast.  isn't it against the Jewish faith to have decorative lights?  The Jewish neighbor should have just knocked on Alvator's door and asked him to remove the luminaries.  If Alvator refused, just pick the damn things up in front of your house and either toss them or put them in front of Alvator's.  Don't call the friggin' cops and/or mayor.

And the mayor's an ass for getting involved.  On Christmas Eve, no less.  I'd tell them all to STFU and act like adults.
 
2013-12-27 10:06:56 AM

Cake Hunter: I don't care if they're overplayed, I still like the Luminaries.


Diogenes: Granted, it's not like they put up a nativity scene in front of the Jewish neighbor's house.  But I'd be a little annoyed if someone decorated in front of my house without asking me.  On the flip side I don't think I'd be calling the mayor to ask him to intervene.

Lots of asshattery to be had in this one.


Agreed... and it is a bit odd to put luminaria on the public sidewalk right in front of people's houses, at least without some agreement by everyone on the street that "Yeah, that is cool" (which, obviously this person didn't have).  My sister-in-laws old neighborhood puts them out, but, in the greenway street divider strip, so, it isn't in anyone's yard.

I don't get the specific religious aspect of it (of course, as a non-church going Unitarian, that is I guess to be expected)... I mean, I know it is mostly Christian people/neighborhoods doing it where I've seen it, but, I just always thought they were just "pretty lights" for the "holidays".  Maybe someone wants to "enlighten" me.
 
2013-12-27 10:08:42 AM

dletter: I don't get the specific religious aspect of it (of course, as a non-church going Unitarian, that is I guess to be expected)... I mean, I know it is mostly Christian people/neighborhoods doing it where I've seen it, but, I just always thought they were just "pretty lights" for the "holidays".  Maybe someone wants to "enlighten" me.


The idea was to light the way to your home to welcome the Baby Jesus. At least, that's how it was explained to me when I was a kid.
 
2013-12-27 10:09:32 AM

dletter: I don't get the specific religious aspect of it (of course, as a non-church going Unitarian, that is I guess to be expected)


Mostly by association with the event I'd say.
 
2013-12-27 10:17:26 AM
I was going to post a funny killjoy pic, but the GIS just turned up images of some stupid clown.
 
2013-12-27 10:18:17 AM
Don't care who it is or what they put there, if they want to put it on my lawn they better ask first.

These guys sound like complete dicks.
 
2013-12-27 10:19:57 AM
I got a Luminary stuck in my rectum this year.

/wrong thread?
 
2013-12-27 10:20:31 AM

unlikely: Don't care who it is or what they put there, if they want to put it on my lawn they better ask first.

These guys sound like complete dicks.


Well, "technically" in most places, if you have a sidewalk in front of your house... the sidewalk and the strip of grass between that and the road is generally considered "public" (although, obviously it is generally considered your 'responsibility" to mow/maintain it).   But, I'd agree, I wouldn't put stuff there without the home owners consent.
 
2013-12-27 10:22:39 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I got a Luminary stuck in my rectum this year.


Mayor Rustin?
 
2013-12-27 10:23:09 AM

brigid_fitch: Yes, the guy was being a dick but why the f*ck did the mayor decide to get involved?  This just got completely stupid really fast.  isn't it against the Jewish faith to have decorative lights?  The Jewish neighbor should have just knocked on Alvator's door and asked him to remove the luminaries.  If Alvator refused, just pick the damn things up in front of your house and either toss them or put them in front of Alvator's.  Don't call the friggin' cops and/or mayor.

And the mayor's an ass for getting involved.  On Christmas Eve, no less.  I'd tell them all to STFU and act like adults.


My guess, though wholly unsupported by TFA, is that the Jewish neighbor was not around when the guy set these up.  Since they were on the public sidewalk and throughout the entire neighborhood, he might have thought the town set them up.  He was offended that the town would do that and made a call to city hall.  The story took on a life of its own after that.  Just a guess.
 
2013-12-27 10:25:37 AM

Diogenes: Three Crooked Squirrels: I got a Luminary stuck in my rectum this year.

Mayor Rustin?


And here I thought the internet was anonymous.
 
2013-12-27 10:27:11 AM
What, some Jew is discriminating against Diwali?
 
2013-12-27 10:28:37 AM
ftfa:  "It kind of felt like the Grinch was knocking on my front door and my children felt the same way. They were confused by what was happening," said wife Loran.

It's a feeling they'll probably have to get used to.
 
2013-12-27 10:29:00 AM
"Unfortunately, the mayor's actions were violating to our family," Loran added.

No they weren't you cock.  The mayor's actions were stupid, silly and pointless, but nobody violated you.
 
2013-12-27 10:29:12 AM
"It had nothing to do with religion. It was about bringing people in our neighborhood closer together," Jason said.
"Unfortunately, the mayor's actions were violating to our family."


God, what a whiny little biatch.
 
2013-12-27 10:31:30 AM

Egoy3k: "Unfortunately, the mayor's actions were violating to our family," Loran added.

No they weren't you cock.  The mayor's actions were stupid, silly and pointless, but nobody violated you.


I'm guessing they should be very compliant when they park about town, in the future.
 
2013-12-27 10:31:48 AM
Why would you force your religion on another person? That is totally wrong.
 
2013-12-27 10:31:51 AM

JerseyTim: The amazing thing is that these people obviously went to WPIX with this news. This guy reached out and was willing to tell the world that, yes, my Jewish neighbor asked that I not decorate the front of his house for the birth of Jesus, but I purposely left it out there until after Christmas was over out of spite. He volunteered that information for the world.


Because he thinks his religion is the "default" one and that the rest of the world will automatically support him because he's fighting for Christians.
 
2013-12-27 10:32:39 AM
Jason left Christmas Eve dinner and picked up all of the luminaries with the exception of a few.
"I cleaned up the whole block. I left his [the neighbor that complained]. Maybe that's me being a little spiteful about it," he said.



Aaaaaand there's the Christmas spirit.
 
2013-12-27 10:33:49 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I got a Luminary stuck in my rectum this year.

/wrong thread?


One time, my cousin Walter got this cat stuck up his ass. True story.

/chocolate covered pretzel?
 
2013-12-27 10:34:44 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: brigid_fitch: Yes, the guy was being a dick but why the f*ck did the mayor decide to get involved?  This just got completely stupid really fast.  isn't it against the Jewish faith to have decorative lights?  The Jewish neighbor should have just knocked on Alvator's door and asked him to remove the luminaries.  If Alvator refused, just pick the damn things up in front of your house and either toss them or put them in front of Alvator's.  Don't call the friggin' cops and/or mayor.

And the mayor's an ass for getting involved.  On Christmas Eve, no less.  I'd tell them all to STFU and act like adults.

My guess, though wholly unsupported by TFA, is that the Jewish neighbor was not around when the guy set these up.  Since they were on the public sidewalk and throughout the entire neighborhood, he might have thought the town set them up.  He was offended that the town would do that and made a call to city hall.  The story took on a life of its own after that.  Just a guess.


I can see someone making that assumption which could explain why the mayor ended up being involved.
 
2013-12-27 10:36:34 AM
 WTF do luminaries have to do with "religion"? Other than going to mass and a few songs, what tiny percentage of modern Christmas activities have the least bit to do with Jesus? Sweet Odin's sweaty balls, people need to chill the fark out.
 
2013-12-27 10:36:46 AM
So "Call the mayor!" came to mind before "Just blow the damn candles out."?
 
2013-12-27 10:36:48 AM
 Sounds like next season this fool needs to find a giant menorah in his front yard.
 
2013-12-27 10:37:59 AM
When I saw "NJ mayor personally asks", I thought this was going to be about Cory Booker asking some asshats to remove some "fark you Jews it's CHRISTmas!"-type decorations.  Instead, it's just some guy blowing out candles.  Yawn.
 
2013-12-27 10:38:44 AM

BalugaJoe: Why would you force your religion on another person? That is totally wrong.


Not to this asshole, apparently. No, see, his religion is the right one, and so he feels unfairly persecuted because someone else didn't want his decorations in front of their house.
 
2013-12-27 10:39:46 AM

Trivia Jockey: Jason left Christmas Eve dinner and picked up all of the luminaries with the exception of a few.
"I cleaned up the whole block. I left his [the neighbor that complained]. Maybe that's me being a little spiteful about it," he said.


Aaaaaand there's the Christmas spirit.


Burning a Star of David into their lawn would provide longer lasting spite.
 
2013-12-27 10:40:08 AM
In an effort to manufacture outrage, I have adopted the Aztec calendar. Any attempt to push Christian values on me by wishing me a Happy New Year based on the Gregorian calendar (an attempt to make Easter sit still) will be met with a mock violent outburst.

fark 'em if they can't take a joke.
 
2013-12-27 10:40:24 AM
Even though everyone involved seems to be dicks, what's the big deal with a bunch of candles lining the entire street and including your home?  Pick your battles, or even better just let some stuff go and don't think of it as a battle.

A colleague was telling me a story about his mid 20 something girlfriend new in her first real job who said "Merry Christmas" in an elevator to someone she didn't really know who turned out to be relatively senior in the firm who gave her an apparently nasty harrangue that she should have known he was Jewish and he didn't appreciate.... blah blah blah.

Why be an asshole?  You can accomplish the same thing in a pleasant manner.  She isn't going to say it to him again in either case.  Even better, you can just say "Thanks, same to you"
 
2013-12-27 10:40:35 AM
So next year, have someone just put piles of spagetti in front of everyone's house.

Problem solved.
 
2013-12-27 10:41:38 AM
Learned a new word today. Luminaries.
I don't like this word.
 
2013-12-27 10:43:20 AM

FormlessOne: BalugaJoe: Why would you force your religion on another person? That is totally wrong.

Not to this asshole, apparently. No, see, his religion is the right one, and so he feels unfairly persecuted because someone else didn't want his decorations in front of their house.


godswillchurch.com
This applies
 
2013-12-27 10:43:54 AM
To bad religions don't include not being a dick to everyone.
 
2013-12-27 10:43:57 AM
"It had nothing to do with religion. It was about bringing people in our neighborhood closer together," Jason said.

 If he did it on any other day of the year, however, doing it at the time of a major religious feast day may not be appreciated by people of another religion.
 
2013-12-27 10:46:10 AM

Braggi: To bad religions don't include not being a dick to everyone.


If anything the spokespersons for those religions tend to advocate being a dick to everyone not of their particular religion.
 
2013-12-27 10:48:22 AM
Whole neighborhood has luminaries on the street for 1 night and you get offended and complain to the mayor?  You're a prick.

Neighbor, however prickish he may be, asks you to remove the luminaries and you remove them all, except the ones in front of your neighbor's house?  You're a prick.

Yay, pricks all around.
 
2013-12-27 10:48:34 AM
Why didn't the neighbor that found the candles offensive just go outside and remove the ones in front of their house? Why call the mayor to complain?

/everyone in this story is an idiot.
 
2013-12-27 10:48:42 AM

susler: Even though everyone involved seems to be dicks, what's the big deal with a bunch of candles lining the entire street and including your home?  Pick your battles, or even better just let some stuff go and don't think of it as a battle.

A colleague was telling me a story about his mid 20 something girlfriend new in her first real job who said "Merry Christmas" in an elevator to someone she didn't really know who turned out to be relatively senior in the firm who gave her an apparently nasty harrangue that she should have known he was Jewish and he didn't appreciate.... blah blah blah.

Why be an asshole?  You can accomplish the same thing in a pleasant manner.  She isn't going to say it to him again in either case.  Even better, you can just say "Thanks, same to you"


One of my employees is a Jehova's Witness I wished him a merry Christmas the other day accidentally then caught myself and apologized.  He laughed and asked if I was traveling home to see the family this year.  I can't imagine how that would have went if he wasn't such a cool guy, I'm an atheist so it would be an awfully awkward situation to get into an argument because I was forcing Christmas at someone.  Luckily he's a cool guy.
 
2013-12-27 10:49:12 AM
Egoy3k:The mayor's actions were stupid, silly and pointless, but nobody violated you.

Keep in mind that the only report we have on this visit comes from the guy who placed the lights.  I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that there's a bit of skewed perspective going on. I expect the job of removing the lights fell to the local police.  The mayor likely stepped in so that he could try to reason with these folks in an attempt to head off hard feelings.

What were his other options?  Ignore the statute because it might annoy the people who were violating it?  Send police to the guy's door?
 
2013-12-27 10:49:17 AM
People sure do take their little pretend holidays seriously.
 
2013-12-27 10:51:46 AM
This is typical. What I read was that the Mayor used his power and took HIS religion's side. this is what I hate about people and their religious beliefs. IT'S A F*CKING CANDLE IN A BAG! NOT CROSSES AND BABY JESUS'S EVERYWHERE!!! You can't just let it go? you can't just go along to get along? Stupid farking selfish arseholes ruin everything.

don't the Jews have a "festival of lights" holiday? and this di**head couldn't even just pretend??!!

SOOO farking tired of religions. Don't you all know it was written by man to CONTROL their fellow man??(and make TONS of money) The "big three" religions should be abolished.

/believes in "God"
//doesn't believe in what man has written, it's like a 2000 year game of "operator".
 
2013-12-27 10:52:13 AM

Belias: Send police to the guy's door?


OMG - every head at Fox News would have asploded.
 
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