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(SeattlePI)   Boy gets SCUBA gear for Christmas. Father takes him diving A) in a pool for practice B) in a shallow water lagoon C) In a 300-foot deep underwater cave system   (seattlepi.com) divider line 221
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2013-12-26 04:37:28 PM
Yeah, going cave diving when you don't have the experience is just asking for trouble.
 
2013-12-26 04:41:43 PM
Sometimes Darwin covers past misses
 
2013-12-26 04:53:47 PM
Going into a cave at all is dumb if you are experienced, let alone a cave full of water.

/Experienced caver.
 
2013-12-26 04:55:33 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sometimes Darwin covers past misses


Darwin, much like God, is way too slow.
 
2013-12-26 04:57:10 PM
From another news site:

At 8:30 p.m., a certified underwater recovery diver went into the cave to look for the two men.
The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.
Officials said that the divers' equipment will be checked and deputies will continue to investigate.
The cave is considered an advanced and very technical dive, according to area diving enthusiasts, and has been described inside as being like the "Grand Canyon" or the "Mount Everest" of cave diving. Located deep in the woods, it looks like a small, unassuming pond from Earth's surface, but underneath is a network of huge chambers.
One diving website, aquaviews.net, named Eagle's Nest Sink "one of the top three extreme dives in the world."
"Only for highly experienced cave divers and the technically sound, the descent the Eagle's nest is similar to that of a chimney and hundreds of feet below it opens up into a large cavern called "the Main Ballroom", beyond which are longer tunnels and crannies that go even deeper," the website said.

Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/418265-darrin-spivey-dillon-sanchez-i d d-as-father-son-divers-who-died-in-florida/#ixzz2ocXDzUZH
 
2013-12-26 05:00:15 PM
I ain't going no cuba divin
 
2013-12-26 05:07:38 PM

vernonFL: Yeah, going cave diving when you don't have the experience is just asking for trouble.


From what I've read, having experience is still asking for trouble; without it you're just shouting "Come at me Darwin!"
I've been a caver, and someday I'd like to learn to dive, but no way in hell I'd combine them, no matter how spectacular
the views might possibly be.  I don't ever want to tightrope walk across the Grand Canyon either.
 
2013-12-26 05:34:54 PM
~~The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.

67 feet isn't that deep, but for someone with zero experience, it is! 127 feet is deep even for someone with experience.

The deeper you go, the faster you use your air. Inexperienced divers tend to use more air, and when you panic you definately use more air
 
2013-12-26 07:21:52 PM
Q: What sounds do a pair of inexperenced cave divers make at 67 feet?

A: Glug Glug.
 
2013-12-26 07:24:59 PM
I love diving, been doing it since I was a teenager, but no way in hell am I going into a cave underwater. I like knowing there's a surface above me.
 
2013-12-26 07:30:02 PM
I guess it is a scenic way to commit suicide. sort of. if you ignore the panic part.
Asshole know it all dad proves that he didnt know it all.
Meh
 
2013-12-26 07:54:08 PM
www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-12-26 07:55:11 PM
Stupid is as stupid drowns.
 
2013-12-26 08:50:04 PM

Confabulat: I love diving, been doing it since I was a teenager, but no way in hell am I going into a cave underwater. I like knowing there's a surface above me.


Certified 1981.......this
 
2013-12-26 09:06:35 PM
According to the sheriff's office, the 35-year-old Spivey was a certified diver; however, he was not a certified cave diver. They say Sanchez was not a certified diver.

They can now be certified as idiots, however.
 
2013-12-26 09:11:56 PM

bdub77: According to the sheriff's office, the 35-year-old Spivey was a certified diver; however, he was not a certified cave diver. They say Sanchez was not a certified diver.

They can now be certified as ex-idiots, however.


FTFY

/and not just pinin' for the fjords
 
2013-12-26 10:24:12 PM
"Cave diving in this area is extremely dangerous - even life threatening!! Do not dive unless you are a certified cave diver!!"According to the sheriff's office, the 35-year-old Spivey was a certified diver; however, he was not a certified cave diver.

What a difference a word makes
 
2013-12-26 10:26:04 PM
I hope a ghost kicks this kid's dad in his ghost-balls for being an idiot


/way worse than shooting your eye out
 
2013-12-26 10:26:05 PM

altside: I ain't going no cuba divin


Not even in the O chin?
 
2013-12-26 10:28:03 PM
I tried doing the cave diving certification about 10 years ago. Scared the shiat out of me. Some things are just not worth my life.
 
2013-12-26 10:28:11 PM
"Life is Good" bumper stickers and t-shirts assured me this would be fun and easy.   Something is wrong with this story.  Bumper stickers are wise and apparel does not lie.
 
2013-12-26 10:28:17 PM
Around these parts, cave diving means something very different
 
2013-12-26 10:28:48 PM
Well, it was probably the best gift of his life!
 
2013-12-26 10:28:54 PM

TheHighlandHowler: From another news site:

At 8:30 p.m., a certified underwater recovery diver went into the cave to look for the two men.
The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.
Officials said that the divers' equipment will be checked and deputies will continue to investigate.
The cave is considered an advanced and very technical dive, according to area diving enthusiasts, and has been described inside as being like the "Grand Canyon" or the "Mount Everest" of cave diving. Located deep in the woods, it looks like a small, unassuming pond from Earth's surface, but underneath is a network of huge chambers.
One diving website, aquaviews.net, named Eagle's Nest Sink "one of the top three extreme dives in the world."
"Only for highly experienced cave divers and the technically sound, the descent the Eagle's nest is similar to that of a chimney and hundreds of feet below it opens up into a large cavern called "the Main Ballroom", beyond which are longer tunnels and crannies that go even deeper," the website said.

Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/418265-darrin-spivey-dillon-sanchez-i d d-as-father-son-divers-who-died-in-florida/#ixzz2ocXDzUZH


I hate the Everest comparison. Everest is no joke of a mountain by I highly doubt it's as dangerous as this cave system now that it has been commercialized.
 
2013-12-26 10:30:27 PM
Certified advanced open water, you'll never catch my ass in a cave. Fark that noise.
I've done some wall dives down past 120, but I'll take a clear path back to the surface above me at all times, thanks.
 
2013-12-26 10:30:33 PM
http://vimeo.com/9565244

I looked up the caves and found this video.

Yeah, no way in hell would I go into that even if I was trained.
 
2013-12-26 10:31:06 PM

TheHighlandHowler: From another news site:

At 8:30 p.m., a certified underwater recovery diver went into the cave to look for the two men.
The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.
Officials said that the divers' equipment will be checked and deputies will continue to investigate.
The cave is considered an advanced and very technical dive, according to area diving enthusiasts, and has been described inside as being like the "Grand Canyon" or the "Mount Everest" of cave diving. Located deep in the woods, it looks like a small, unassuming pond from Earth's surface, but underneath is a network of huge chambers.
One diving website, aquaviews.net, named Eagle's Nest Sink "one of the top three extreme dives in the world."
"Only for highly experienced cave divers and the technically sound, the descent the Eagle's nest is similar to that of a chimney and hundreds of feet below it opens up into a large cavern called "the Main Ballroom", beyond which are longer tunnels and crannies that go even deeper," the website said.

Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/418265-darrin-spivey-dillon-sanchez-i d d-as-father-son-divers-who-died-in-florida/#ixzz2ocXDzUZH


Sounds neat, though.  Wonder if anyone has ever surveyed it or mapped it out?
 
2013-12-26 10:33:09 PM
Self-Contained Apparatus for Breathing Underwater. SCABU.
 
2013-12-26 10:34:12 PM

vernonFL: ~~The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.

67 feet isn't that deep, but for someone with zero experience, it is! 127 feet is deep even for someone with experience.

The deeper you go, the faster you use your air. Inexperienced divers tend to use more air, and when you panic you definately use more air


Into a cave. In the dark. Underwater.

My wild assed guess...too much bottom time inside (poor planning or got disoriented) and just didn't have enough to get back out.

Experienced divers carry multi tanks in caves, and will often rig lines with extra stashes going in and out. Extremely complex dives will also include support divers that meet you at your decompression stops.
 
2013-12-26 10:35:09 PM

hardinparamedic: Q: What sounds do a pair of inexperenced cave divers make at 67 feet?

A: Glug Glug.



There's nothing you can do that can't be done
Nothing you can dive that can't be swum
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy

Nothing you can make that can't be made
Underwater in a cave you can't be saved
Nothing you can do but learn to breathe water too, in time
It's easy

All you need is glub
All you need is glub
All you need is glub
Glub is all you need
 
2013-12-26 10:36:57 PM
I'm gonna struggle for sympathy here.

Much like they probably did for air at some point.

/sad
//not that sympathetic
 
2013-12-26 10:37:01 PM
I read Shadow Divers and I doubt I'd go snorkeling after that mess! I enjoy air...
 
2013-12-26 10:37:35 PM
Found:
www.caveatlas.com
www.caveatlas.com
www.caveatlas.com

www.caveatlas.com

www.caveatlas.com
www.caveatlas.com
 
2013-12-26 10:37:42 PM
I guess they ignored this then

www.floridadiveconnection.com
 
2013-12-26 10:37:43 PM
Do we really even need the Florida tag anymore?
I mean, I think we all knew it was Florida without looking.
 
2013-12-26 10:38:26 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sometimes Darwin covers past misses


This diver down story has almost as many covers as Van Halen's "Diver Down".
 
2013-12-26 10:38:36 PM
Under water, nobody can hear you say "Hold my beer!"
 
2013-12-26 10:39:16 PM
Dumbasses.  No, make that dead dumbasses.
 
2013-12-26 10:39:54 PM

Satanic_Hamster: TheHighlandHowler: From another news site:

At 8:30 p.m., a certified underwater recovery diver went into the cave to look for the two men.
The recovery diver found Sanchez first, inside a cave at 67 feet. Two more recovery divers went to the cave and found Spivey at 127 feet.
Officials said that the divers' equipment will be checked and deputies will continue to investigate.
The cave is considered an advanced and very technical dive, according to area diving enthusiasts, and has been described inside as being like the "Grand Canyon" or the "Mount Everest" of cave diving. Located deep in the woods, it looks like a small, unassuming pond from Earth's surface, but underneath is a network of huge chambers.
One diving website, aquaviews.net, named Eagle's Nest Sink "one of the top three extreme dives in the world."
"Only for highly experienced cave divers and the technically sound, the descent the Eagle's nest is similar to that of a chimney and hundreds of feet below it opens up into a large cavern called "the Main Ballroom", beyond which are longer tunnels and crannies that go even deeper," the website said.

Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/418265-darrin-spivey-dillon-sanchez-i d d-as-father-son-divers-who-died-in-florida/#ixzz2ocXDzUZH

Sounds neat, though.  Wonder if anyone has ever surveyed it or mapped it out?


They did once, they came out in the money pit up in canada.
 
2013-12-26 10:40:10 PM
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-26 10:41:08 PM
The dad was an idiot, but I feel bad for the teenager. He didn't know any better and was just trusting his dad, who was a certified diver. Sucks for their family, too, of course.
 
2013-12-26 10:41:22 PM

upload.wikimedia.org


RIP HOLY DIVER

 
2013-12-26 10:43:20 PM
Get 500 feet of rope.

Tie one end to tree at surface, tie other end to left ankle

The end.

Am I missing something?
 
2013-12-26 10:43:57 PM

Rezurok: I guess they ignored this then

[www.floridadiveconnection.com image 850x637]


Actually, that's my fault. I stuck this in front:
www.ptbarnumspeaks.com
 
2013-12-26 10:45:50 PM
"At 8:30 p.m., a certified underwater recovery diver went into the cave to look for the two men."

Good thing he made it out, or they would have had to send in a certified underwater cave certified underwater cave recovery diver recovery diver.
 
2013-12-26 10:45:51 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Found


Wow, this place sounds cool as hell. I can see why it would be a death trap for "adventurous" types.
 
2013-12-26 10:46:31 PM
I got my SCUBA certification back in high school. Not sure I would consider cave diving even if Bill Gates paid me a billion dollars to try it. That shiat looks scary as hell.
 
2013-12-26 10:46:41 PM

bulldg4life: Get 500 feet of rope.

Tie one end to tree at surface, tie other end to left ankle

The end.

Am I missing something?


I believe most experienced cave divers do use guide lines. I'm guessing Dad was too cool for all that.
 
2013-12-26 10:46:44 PM

bulldg4life: Get 500 feet of rope.

Tie one end to tree at surface, tie other end to left ankle

The end.

Am I missing something?


The ropes would get tangled if every diver had one tied to his ankle.
 
2013-12-26 10:48:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: bulldg4life: Get 500 feet of rope.

Tie one end to tree at surface, tie other end to left ankle

The end.

Am I missing something?

The ropes would get tangled if every diver had one tied to his ankle.



But surely there is a downside to the idea.
 
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