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(Scientific American)   Southern California has record high Christmas temperatures. Which is news to subby who had the thermostat set to 85   ( scientificamerican.com) divider line
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2013-12-26 02:15:49 PM  
Fark you, subby.
I'm in Vermont.
 
2013-12-26 02:44:43 PM  
So *that's* where all the global warming went.  I wish they'd send some this way.  Double digits below zero isn't fun.
 
2013-12-26 03:08:54 PM  

xanadian: So *that's* where all the global warming went.  I wish they'd send some this way.  Double digits below zero isn't fun.


Neither is having to dig your shorts and sandals out of storage.
 
2013-12-26 03:13:46 PM  
Since I know that this will need to be said at some point, I'm going to say it now:

Weather is not the same as climate.
 
2013-12-26 03:16:36 PM  
One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

www.woodfortrees.org

Probably just weather.
 
2013-12-26 03:25:40 PM  

SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Probably just weather.



Probably not weather, but still misleading for the exact same reasons (and more), as we have explained to you repeatedly, and you continue to irrationally ignore.
 
2013-12-26 03:26:23 PM  

SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

Probably just weather.


In before seve...

Dammit! Does this guy have an alert that tells him to post that stupid and misleading image?
 
2013-12-26 03:34:07 PM  

SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Probably just weather.


Incidentally, if you include the data for 1995, the trendline turns positive.

If you include the data for the 1990s, the trendline gets really positive.

But since you are cherrypicking data and all, I think it's fair to note exactly how cherry-picked it is.
 
2013-12-26 03:35:06 PM  
It WAS rather warm here in SoCal yesterday. Some of my relatives wore shorts to my family's Xmas celebration.

/upper 70s, windy right now
 
2013-12-26 03:35:53 PM  
www.skepticalscience.com
 
2013-12-26 03:38:45 PM  
Santa an' a fire? What a Christmas!
 
2013-12-26 03:41:10 PM  
85 degrees? What are you, a farking reptoid?
 
2013-12-26 03:41:58 PM  

zeroman987: SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

Probably just weather.

In before seve...

Dammit! Does this guy have an alert that tells him to post that stupid and misleading image?


Maybe he's a bot operated by some pro-industry group that crawls news aggregator sites looking for certain keywords so he can delve into the comments to post that graph.
 
2013-12-26 03:42:04 PM  

zeroman987: In before seve...

Dammit! Does this guy have an alert that tells him to post that stupid and misleading image?


If that person is in most temperature / climate threads with that image, there is a chance that they are a paid shill.  A number of companies offer such services, with their employees monitoring popular websites, spreading manipulated information and attacking those who they learn are opposed to their client's views.

Or the person is an aspie sitting in their parents' basement, trolling the fark out of us.
 
2013-12-26 03:44:18 PM  

AgentPothead: 85 degrees? What are you, a farking reptoid?


I keep the AC in the summer at 82.  Right now the heat is set at 76 and I was cold enough to need to grab a sweatshirt.
 
2013-12-26 03:51:18 PM  
I would like to congratulate Amy from Saint Paul for her first green. Lord knows it's an accurate.
 
2013-12-26 04:07:53 PM  
*waves from Sunny, 80 degree San Diego*
 
2013-12-26 04:09:06 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Amy from Saint Paul


Tastes like Chicken
 
2013-12-26 04:11:54 PM  
It's warm in Southern California? WTF?
 
2013-12-26 04:11:58 PM  
AgentPothead: 85 degrees? What are you, a farking reptoid?

lol nope, I hail from a warmer climate

www.greatexpectationsusvi.com
 
2013-12-26 04:15:09 PM  
79F Manhattan Beach in LA County :)
 
2013-12-26 04:16:53 PM  
Sitting in my shorts in socal, so getting a kick...
 
2013-12-26 04:19:26 PM  
Hold on for just a few more days, SoCal.  Going to Whale's Vagina tomorrow morning.
 
2013-12-26 04:21:26 PM  
56 degrees here in the TX.
 
2013-12-26 04:29:18 PM  
Yup. Put on a jacket, too hot. Put on a sweater, too hot. Put on two t-shirts, just right. Drove to my brother's for Xmas, not a cloud in the sky.

78 degrees F on december 26th, record was 79 F
Where I was it was 81, it's 73 now

hee hee hee
 
2013-12-26 04:29:20 PM  

GWSuperfan: *waves from Sunny, 80 degree San Diego*


High five!
 
2013-12-26 04:30:21 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Hold on for just a few more days, SoCal.  Going to Whale's Vagina tomorrow morning.


Join the club :)  Beatlefreak is headed this way tomorrow as well.
 
2013-12-26 04:32:44 PM  

RexTalionis: Since I know that this will need to be said at some point, I'm going to say it now:

Weather is not the same as climate.


And a model isn't the same as the earth.
 
2013-12-26 04:33:38 PM  

GWSuperfan: *waves from Sunny, 80 degree San Diego*


Howdy!

/82 here in Santa Barbara today.
//Wore a polo shirt and shorts to work.
 
Zel [TotalFark]
2013-12-26 04:37:27 PM  

SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Probably just weather.


I'm trying to figure out what the hell a hadcrut3vgl is and why we should care for it. It looks like some kind of internal data manipulation. It goes from zero to zero point eight, so maybe let's say it is a proportion, and definitely always positive, indicating an exponential warming trend.
 
2013-12-26 04:40:40 PM  

jjorsett: RexTalionis: Since I know that this will need to be said at some point, I'm going to say it now:

Weather is not the same as climate.

And a model isn't the same as the earth.


No, in the same sense that a model of the universe isn't the universe.

However, models are great because it allows us to make predictions using our understanding of data to approximate the thing they are modelling.
 
2013-12-26 04:44:30 PM  
Great when the Santa Anas come this time of year, strip the trees of any remaining leaves, weakened branches.

Can hardly wait for the fires to begin...
 
2013-12-26 04:49:38 PM  

hammettman: Great when the Santa Anas come this time of year, strip the trees of any remaining leaves, weakened branches.

Can hardly wait for the fires to begin...


I'm building a new deck out into the overgrown hills behind the house this year to lead the fires right up to the structure.

/gotta be ready for fire season
 
2013-12-26 04:56:45 PM  

Zel: SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Probably just weather.

I'm trying to figure out what the hell a hadcrut3vgl is and why we should care for it. It looks like some kind of internal data manipulation. It goes from zero to zero point eight, so maybe let's say it is a proportion, and definitely always positive, indicating an exponential warming trend.


Hadcrut 3 is the third revision of the global temperature average created by hadley climate research unit(which is where hadcrut comes from).  It is slightly outdated since the 4th revision has been released.  The reason for this revision is some new data being used as well as improved mechanisms for dealing with biases and uncertainties in ocean temperature data.

That being said aside from being a slightly outdated dataset, the time period chosen is far too short, and seems deliberately used to mislead.  Temperature isn't expected to increase every year, the internal variability due to volcanic activity, solar variation, and ENSO activity keeps that from being the case.
 
2013-12-26 05:16:14 PM  
After the -50 Fahrenheit wind chills we had around a week ago the current 25 Fahrenheit temperatures have me wearing just a light hoodie for a jacket. It's like farking spring in December!
 
2013-12-26 05:21:05 PM  
The night-time Santa Ana winds not only blew half the water out of my backyard fountain, it gave my dog so much static cling she slept outside all night.

/Perfect San Diego Christmas, 80°F and clear, just right for playing with your brand new radio-controlled toys out in the street to make the neighbor kids jealous.
 
2013-12-26 05:21:58 PM  
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-12-26 05:37:28 PM  
Loving it in Palm Springs today, but can't wait to get back to San Diego and surf all weekend.
 
2013-12-26 05:49:10 PM  
Here in central VA, we are around 50f daytime, 20 overnights, last weekend we set a new high temp record of 78f.

of course, I've worked in a brewery so long I'm just used to always being cold and wet. I never wear a jacket, usually just tooling around in short sleeved t shirts, Jeans or shortsRegardless of the temp
 
2013-12-26 06:00:10 PM  
I took off out of John Wayne this morning and you could see forever! It was the most amazing views I've ever seen.
From Irvine(ish) you could see Victorville, SLO, San Diego, All of LA clearly All the freeways.
From top of the world yesterday you could see san clemente island and the channel islands.  it was incredible.
 
2013-12-26 06:05:03 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: Here in central VA, we are around 50f daytime, 20 overnights, last weekend we set a new high temp record of 78f.

of course, I've worked in a brewery so long I'm just used to always being cold and wet. I never wear a jacket, usually just tooling around in short sleeved t shirts, Jeans or shortsRegardless of the temp


So you're one of those people? Are you like 400 lbs or did you grow up in Greenland or something?

Never ceases to amaze me. Here I am freezing my ass off all bundled up (still shivering) and someone walks past me in a t shirt and sandals. How do they pull it off? Are they secret androids?
 
2013-12-26 06:44:02 PM  
I live in northern CA. We've had rain for about three days this winter. Unless this place turns into the rain forest for the next two months, there's going to be one hell of a drought next summer.
 
2013-12-26 07:03:03 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: I live in northern CA. We've had rain for about three days this winter. Unless this place turns into the rain forest for the next two months, there's going to be one hell of a drought next summer.


Ditto.  I even bought a new raincoat before our typical rain season, which never emerged.

/Aussie outback duster style coat
 
2013-12-26 07:42:44 PM  

SevenizGud: Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:


Yep, another dishonest huckster who decides to complain we're not getting any higher when he's already on top of Mt. Everest.
 
2013-12-26 07:59:58 PM  

jigger: Never ceases to amaze me. Here I am freezing my ass off all bundled up (still shivering) and someone walks past me in a t shirt and sandals. How do they pull it off? Are they secret androids?


I'm one of those types too, and I can tell you, I have no idea. However, people like me also tend to handle hot weather worse than people like you. In my case, I really don't like anything above 80.
 
2013-12-26 09:01:01 PM  

jigger: Cerebral Knievel: Here in central VA, we are around 50f daytime, 20 overnights, last weekend we set a new high temp record of 78f.

of course, I've worked in a brewery so long I'm just used to always being cold and wet. I never wear a jacket, usually just tooling around in short sleeved t shirts, Jeans or shortsRegardless of the temp

So you're one of those people? Are you like 400 lbs or did you grow up in Greenland or something?

Never ceases to amaze me. Here I am freezing my ass off all bundled up (still shivering) and someone walks past me in a t shirt and sandals. How do they pull it off? Are they secret androids?


I'm very sorry for your plight.. I'm actually about 300 pounds, but I'm also about 6'7" and have a giant, full beard and toss around beer kegs for a living. I've worn the beard for a decade now.. I recently discovered that I am fashinonable for having facial insulation.

Like I said, I have spent the last decade and a half mussing around in a beer cellar. I spent the majority of my time in cold and damp environments. usually 45f and 80% humidity. I HATE the cold and the damp, but I am used to it. the last time I got to go down to the Florida keys I was so happy, I love it hot and humid.

but quite frankly, with how I spend most of my time.. cold and wet?  if the outside temp is in the mid fifties and mid grade humidity? it aint no thang for me. I heavy coats get in the way.. at the most, I'll wear thermals under my regular clothes because I can layer down at that point.  when I left the house this morning, it was 21f outside, went to work in full thermals, jeans and T-shirt. got gas on the way in, self serve, no issue the heater in the truck was getting overbearing about halfway into my 10 minute commute.

most of the early day was taken up running the 22 ounce bottling line.. and that is pretty much standing beside a giant cold water radiator while standing around in the constant cold and damp, juggling lowfills and the like with your bare hands that are just slightly above 31f

I don't care for the cold and dank.. I'm just USED to it.

I actually grow a lot of tropical plants at home because i dream of the south pacific
 
2013-12-26 09:48:31 PM  

RexTalionis: [www.skepticalscience.com image 813x555]


I'm stealing that and sharing it around what tiny bits of the internet I can.
 
2013-12-26 11:51:17 PM  
85? Where I live it was minus 40 last week and my thermostat is never higher than 68
 
2013-12-27 01:02:58 AM  

OgreMagi: Ego edo infantia cattus: I live in northern CA. We've had rain for about three days this winter. Unless this place turns into the rain forest for the next two months, there's going to be one hell of a drought next summer.

Ditto.  I even bought a new raincoat before our typical rain season, which never emerged.

/Aussie outback duster style coat


I just replaced my parents' windshield wiper blades. Not sure if they'll be of much use, besides cleaning off dust and tree sap.
 
2013-12-27 04:06:30 AM  

drumhellar: zeroman987: SevenizGud: One day in one region of one state = climate change, amirite?

Meanwhile, on the entire surface of the planet for now some 15+ years:

Probably just weather.

In before seve...

Dammit! Does this guy have an alert that tells him to post that stupid and misleading image?

Maybe he's a bot operated by some pro-industry group that crawls news aggregator sites looking for certain keywords so he can delve into the comments to post that graph.


Or he's just an attention hooooor.
 
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