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(Slate)   What do the best selling books on Amazon for 2013 tell us about America? Well, let's be honest -- nothing that's going to surprise you   (slate.com) divider line 89
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2013-12-26 03:31:58 PM  
Does someone have an equivalent list for the EU?  Without some sort of standard to measure it against, it's hard to give a damn.
 
2013-12-26 03:34:18 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: Ugh. Strengths Finder... what a joke of a book. Like all management books, really. Also with a clever, built-in way to sell more books.

/Books by right wing authors on list also make me sad.


We actually use the strengths thing at work, and have for a decade. Used right, it's pretty effective and useful.
 
2013-12-26 03:36:51 PM  

ronaprhys: Does someone have an equivalent list for the EU?  Without some sort of standard to measure it against, it's hard to give a damn.


Here's the amazon.co.uk list

The Fast Diet - Michael Mosley
Alex Ferguson: My Autobiography - Alex Ferguson
Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Gone Girl - Gillian Flynn
Demon Dentist - David Walliams
The Hairy Dieters - Hairy Bikers
Inferno - Dan Brown
Minecraft: The Official 2014 Annual
The Fault in Our Stars - John Green
Tom Kerridge's Proper Pub Food - Tom Kerridge
 
2013-12-26 03:38:15 PM  

gito: uknowzit: Say's more about the type of people that order from Amazon then anything.

Actually, it says more about the type of people who still order physical books. The ebook bestseller list is almost entirely different.

//And the DSM-5 is an essential professional reference material. Slate writer knows better.


I just go to the library and read stuff for free.
 
2013-12-26 03:39:07 PM  

rugman11: ronaprhys: Does someone have an equivalent list for the EU?  Without some sort of standard to measure it against, it's hard to give a damn.

Here's the amazon.co.uk list

The Fast Diet - Michael Mosley
Alex Ferguson: My Autobiography - Alex Ferguson
Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Gone Girl - Gillian Flynn
Demon Dentist - David Walliams
The Hairy Dieters - Hairy Bikers
Inferno - Dan Brown
Minecraft: The Official 2014 Annual
The Fault in Our Stars - John Green
Tom Kerridge's Proper Pub Food - Tom Kerridge


So - there's no real difference in the levle of schlock that both sides are reading.

I, for one, am shocked.  How it is that Americans aren't the scum of the earth in their reading habits shocks me.  Amazon must be lying.
 
2013-12-26 03:39:10 PM  

rugman11: ronaprhys: Does someone have an equivalent list for the EU?  Without some sort of standard to measure it against, it's hard to give a damn.

Here's the amazon.co.uk list

The Fast Diet - Michael Mosley
Alex Ferguson: My Autobiography - Alex Ferguson
Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Gone Girl - Gillian Flynn
Demon Dentist - David Walliams
The Hairy Dieters - Hairy Bikers
Inferno - Dan Brown
Minecraft: The Official 2014 Annual
The Fault in Our Stars - John Green
Tom Kerridge's Proper Pub Food - Tom Kerridge


You can also change the top-level domain to get any other Amazon site's lists.

Amazon.fr's top three books were the Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy.
 
2013-12-26 03:41:08 PM  

secularsage: cgraves67: I rather like Rick Riordan's books. It makes ancient Greek and Roman culture palatable for young readers.

I read the first Percy Jackson book and was astounded at the low quality of Rich Riordan's writing. Even for a book aimed at kids, it was astoundingly poor.

JK Rowling isn't the best writer to grace children's literature in the last decade, but there's a reason her works will endure - she actually put some craft to her storytelling and was obviously more in love with the story than the eventual money she made.

/She just needed an editor in books 4-7 who wasn't terrified of saying "no" to pointless tangents. Books 1-3 were much better for it.


I am currently reading her last publication,   "Casual Vacancy".   a book about small town politics and such.    so far pretty good.
 
2013-12-26 03:46:53 PM  

Skraeling: cgraves67: I rather like Rick Riordan's books. It makes ancient Greek and Roman culture palatable for young readers.

also signing on to the I rather like his book bandwagon.  Ive read all of them so far.  Pretty solid for YA fare and honestly trump some of the adult offerings (50 shades was shiat, but less shiat than twilight was).


but compared to potter or hunger games or divergent, the jackson books are crap.
They could have been so much better if they were written by a woman or someone who could write characters that we cared about.

I gave them away when I was done with them. I will never reread them. There was no meat to the stories or the characters.

FFS, I could name hundreds of characters from harry potter and some of their story.
But Jackson? I had to struggle to remember the names of any of the main characters, let alone minor characters. The books could have been amazing. Instead they were, YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNN.
 
2013-12-26 03:46:57 PM  

CruJones: Needlessly Complicated: Ugh. Strengths Finder... what a joke of a book. Like all management books, really. Also with a clever, built-in way to sell more books.

/Books by right wing authors on list also make me sad.

We actually use the strengths thing at work, and have for a decade. Used right, it's pretty effective and useful.


Go on....
 
2013-12-26 04:02:43 PM  
Surprised this didn't turn into an impromptu Photoshop thread.
 
2013-12-26 04:04:47 PM  
So let me see if I get this straight: a powerful businesswoman has a book on the bestseller list and it is indicative of the unequal treatment women receive in the workplace.  I assume if a power businessman had a book on the bestseller list it would be indicative of the unequal treatment men receive?

/Not trolling
//ok, just a little.
 
2013-12-26 04:20:11 PM  

RyansPrivates: So let me see if I get this straight: a powerful businesswoman has a book on the bestseller list and it is indicative of the unequal treatment women receive in the workplace.  I assume if a power businessman had a book on the bestseller list it would be indicative of the unequal treatment men receive?

/Not trolling
//ok, just a little.


Don't look too much into it. This is the archetype of the drivel Slate churns out lately. They used to be a somewhat respected media outlet and now it's lists of thinly-veiled insults about the average American so people can read it and feel good about themselves.
 
2013-12-26 04:21:00 PM  

cgraves67: I rather like Rick Riordan's books. It makes ancient Greek and Roman culture palatable for young readers.


I'm all for introducing young readers to classical mythology, but what I can tell from Riordan's work, how he portrays the gods is so inaccurate that they might as well be from an entirely different pantheon. Kids would be better off starting with Padraic Colum's books, which are simply portrayals of myths in language targeted toward younger readers. Not to mention that they contain great illustrations by Willy Pogany. Here's The Adventures of Odysseus and The Tale of Troy on Project Gutenberg, including the illustrations: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16867/16867-h/16867-h.htm
 
2013-12-26 04:25:26 PM  
I've seen farkers in real life. You people shouldn't be so quick to judge.
 
2013-12-26 04:32:56 PM  

Walter Paisley: cgraves67: I rather like Rick Riordan's books. It makes ancient Greek and Roman culture palatable for young readers.

I'm all for introducing young readers to classical mythology, but what I can tell from Riordan's work, how he portrays the gods is so inaccurate that they might as well be from an entirely different pantheon. Kids would be better off starting with Padraic Colum's books, which are simply portrayals of myths in language targeted toward younger readers. Not to mention that they contain great illustrations by Willy Pogany. Here's The Adventures of Odysseus and The Tale of Troy on Project Gutenberg, including the illustrations: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16867/16867-h/16867-h.htm


read Edith White for Greek Mythology light.
 
2013-12-26 04:51:25 PM  

jjorsett: What I learned is that whatever you read, from self-help to The Great Gatsby, a certain Slate columnist will find fault with it and mock you, your taste, and all that you represent.



After reading the list, I went to Google Play to see if they have The Great Gatsby as one of their free ones.  They don't.  It costs $4.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  It's an electronic book.  The guy who wrote the original died over 70 years ago.  How do they have the right to be selling it?!

I guess I'll have to go to the old fashioned library if I want to read it.
 
2013-12-26 05:16:04 PM  
I wonder if, one day, S will make the list or if people will be too stupid to enjoy it.
 
2013-12-26 05:16:18 PM  
I weep for America.
 
2013-12-26 05:29:19 PM  

durbnpoisn: jjorsett: What I learned is that whatever you read, from self-help to The Great Gatsby, a certain Slate columnist will find fault with it and mock you, your taste, and all that you represent.


After reading the list, I went to Google Play to see if they have The Great Gatsby as one of their free ones.  They don't.  It costs $4.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  It's an electronic book.  The guy who wrote the original died over 70 years ago.  How do they have the right to be selling it?!

I guess I'll have to go to the old fashioned library if I want to read it.


The Great Gatsby is under copyright in the United States until 2021. That's how Google Play has the right to be selling it.

You can legally download the book in every country in the world except seven. The United States is one of those seven.
 
2013-12-26 05:31:45 PM  

Ex-Texan: I weep for America.


No you don't. In fact, I'd wager that you quite enjoy acting like you're better than everyone.
 
2013-12-26 05:55:33 PM  
I got a kindle fire hd for christmas and started buying my first ebooks.

My first book: How to tell your cat is plotting to kill you.
Second book:  Game of thrones

I have no idea what this says about me.
 
2013-12-26 06:03:48 PM  

QueenMamaBee: Why are people ordering the DSM-5? Good Lord, people are hard up to have a mental illness (or explain away their stupid behavior... "I'm not a drama queen, I have Histronic Personality Disorder!"


Yeah, Hot Topic's entire business plan is based on this.
 
2013-12-26 06:13:00 PM  
Liberals don't read? Try to have a conversation with one that's not about pop culture and that's easy to figure out.
 
2013-12-26 06:14:04 PM  

5 star chef of tv dinners: I got a kindle fire hd for christmas and started buying my first ebooks.

My first book: How to tell your cat is plotting to kill you.
Second book:  Game of thrones

I have no idea what this says about me.



It means you like pussy and dark humor.


/What I did thar, do you see it?
 
2013-12-26 06:26:13 PM  
It says Subby has the emotional development of a Jesse Jackson fundraiser
 
2013-12-26 06:30:07 PM  

Sudlow: Same as always. Here's the list from last year: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2012/books or here's the list from 2000: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_1399312_4?ie=UTF8& d ocId=106277&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0EBN8TEPDWP X717E32DS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=219785801&pf_rd_i=524140


Then a comparison with best selling books in the 50's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publishers_Weekly_list_of_bestselling_nov els_in_the_United_States_in_the_1950s

Some true classics.


I hope Mickey Spillane is on the 50s list.

Ha. He's not yet according to his Wiki in 1980 he still had 7 of the top 15 All time best selling fiction titles in the US. Methinks that list methodology is a bit off.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Spillane

Took a 50s lit class and we had to read one of his books for perspective. The one current printing - for an incredibly best selling Communist fear monger author - was stupid hard to find but I found a vintage copy at a store. That pictured, on the cover, the scene where his secretary is tied up by Commies from her wrists and iirc naked. Shown from the back of course.

Ah, popular culture.
 
2013-12-26 07:05:38 PM  

QueenMamaBee: Crazy Lee: QueenMamaBee: Why are people ordering the DSM-5? Good Lord, people are hard up to have a mental illness (or explain away their stupid behavior... "I'm not a drama queen, I have Histronic Personality Disorder!"

Serious contenders are transitioning from the IC-9 to the ICD-10

I was upset that misophonia didn't make it into the DSM-5. I need justification for when I pimp slap the nail clipper, the ice cruncher and the popcorn cruncher.


Earlier this year I heard they were no longer going to recognize Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It's wonderful, telling narcissists they will not be paid attention to!
 
2013-12-26 07:28:13 PM  
I'll give a pass forever to the wimpy kids books. My younger son hated reading- we had to force him to read, word by agonizing word. Then he picked up one of his brother's Wimpy Kid books and read the entire thing,by himself, laughing the whole time. Since then he's become quite a good reader, but the publishing of a new one in that series is always a happy day in his life.
 
2013-12-26 07:43:18 PM  

CivicMindedFive: [global3.memecdn.com image 680x484]


Dang you got to it before me.  +1 vote
 
2013-12-26 07:44:29 PM  
That Rush Limbaugh book looks hysterical.
 
2013-12-26 07:51:02 PM  

Donald_McRonald: CruJones: Needlessly Complicated: Ugh. Strengths Finder... what a joke of a book. Like all management books, really. Also with a clever, built-in way to sell more books.

/Books by right wing authors on list also make me sad.

We actually use the strengths thing at work, and have for a decade. Used right, it's pretty effective and useful.

Go on....


We use it not to pick people for jobs, but to help motivate and work together better. People with different strengths respond differently to things. And we believing in focusing on strengths, and making you great at those, not trying to get your biggest weaknesses better. Use what you're good at. Everyone has their top 5 strengths on their badge, and usually at their desk.

/strategy, input, command, competition, and achiever
//pretty accurate
 
2013-12-26 08:13:09 PM  

uknowzit: gito: uknowzit: Say's more about the type of people that order from Amazon then anything.

Actually, it says more about the type of people who still order physical books. The ebook bestseller list is almost entirely different.

//And the DSM-5 is an essential professional reference material. Slate writer knows better.

I just go to the library and read stuff for free.


Weirdly enough, a person really does get enough mileage out of it to own one. When I was in university, studying archaeology and anthropology and taking no psychology courses at all, for a good 2 1/2 years it was much easier to have my own DSM-IV and a few other choice medical reference books of my own rather than compete for the library copy.
 
2013-12-26 08:19:31 PM  
I am disappointed.that I havent read any of those books.... I am currently reading Ship of Theseus.... oh how I love it....
 
2013-12-26 09:09:50 PM  

hasty ambush: 1. The Great Gatsby sucked and blew, both book and movies


Oh shut the fark up.   Bashing an example of classic literature doesnt make you smart, it makes you a boring contrarian BS artist.   Just because the story wasn't took your liking (sorry, no superheroes or wizards in this one), Fitzgerald made the English language his biatch in that book.  Storyteller?  Maybe so-so.  Wordsmith?  Farking amazing.
 
2013-12-26 09:19:27 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Liberals don't read? Try to have a conversation with one that's not about pop culture and that's easy to figure out.


Liberals are smart enough to go to the library and read books for free.
 
2013-12-27 12:12:13 AM  
Maybe nothing is wrong with us. Maybe it's what someone wants is to believe.
 
2013-12-27 06:16:01 AM  

Marshmallow Jones: hasty ambush: 1. The Great Gatsby sucked and blew, both book and movies

Oh shut the fark up.   Bashing an example of classic literature doesnt make you smart, it makes you a boring contrarian BS artist.   Just because the story wasn't took your liking (sorry, no superheroes or wizards in this one), Fitzgerald made the English language his biatch in that book.  Storyteller?  Maybe so-so.  Wordsmith?  Farking amazing.


Just because it has been designated classic by "them" whoever they are does not mean I have to like it. You seem to like it because it is designated a classic. It was basically a bunch of whiny people lamenting their lot in life. How it got designated classic is beyond me.
 
2013-12-27 06:32:53 AM  
Just realize that book sales can be a form of money laundering.  Write a book, take in political donations, buy the book up in bulk with those donations, give away the books to anyone who will accept them.  Profit.
 
2013-12-27 03:36:35 PM  

hasty ambush: Marshmallow Jones: hasty ambush: 1. The Great Gatsby sucked and blew, both book and movies

Oh shut the fark up.   Bashing an example of classic literature doesnt make you smart, it makes you a boring contrarian BS artist.   Just because the story wasn't took your liking (sorry, no superheroes or wizards in this one), Fitzgerald made the English language his biatch in that book.  Storyteller?  Maybe so-so.  Wordsmith?  Farking amazing.

Just because it has been designated classic by "them" whoever they are does not mean I have to like it. You seem to like it because it is designated a classic. It was basically a bunch of whiny people lamenting their lot in life. How it got designated classic is beyond me.


You see, I don't understand this thinking.  For example, I don't like the book either, but I appreciate its influence, writing style, themes etc, even though I don't like the characters.  I also don't like it for being a classic.  I just don't think it is utter tripe because I don't like it.  But I do get why it is a classic.

It's the same way I feel about jazz.  Totally not my thing.  Never really got into it, but I do see why some consider it one of the great musical art-forms.
 
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