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(Slate)   It started as an April Fools' joke, and thanks to the NSA is turning into reality: the carrier-pigeon Internet   (slate.com) divider line 39
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2013-12-26 03:09:02 PM
What's wrong with foxing?
 
2013-12-26 03:10:04 PM
Or go back to snail mail.
 
2013-12-26 03:15:05 PM
That's okay. I send all my messages via Clacks.
 
2013-12-26 03:27:42 PM
r/trees will switch to smoke signals.
 
2013-12-26 03:33:19 PM
Alert the feline counter measures!
 
2013-12-26 03:39:52 PM
Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.
 
2013-12-26 03:41:20 PM
excuse me stewardess, i speak jive.
 
2013-12-26 03:47:43 PM

Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.


...says the obvious NSA operative!

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-12-26 03:58:59 PM
Am I the only one getting sick of people constantly bringing up the NSA?
 
2013-12-26 04:05:17 PM

Smidge204: Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.

...says the obvious NSA operative!


A wrench! My only weakness!
 
2013-12-26 04:08:44 PM
Encryption + line of sight (laser) communication - doesn't work 100% of the time, but it works far more of the time than IPoAC.
 
2013-12-26 04:09:18 PM

Rezurok: Smidge204: Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.

...says the obvious NSA operative!

A wrench! My only weakness!


Rubber hose cryptography. Awesome.
 
2013-12-26 04:12:01 PM
The Latency is horrible for on-line gaming though...
 
2013-12-26 04:16:26 PM
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

The RFC for "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"

On 28 April 2001, IPoAC was actually implemented by the Bergen Linux user group.[4] They sent nine packets over a distance of approximately five kilometers (three miles), each carried by an individual pigeon and containing one ping (ICMP Echo Request), and received four responses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
 
2013-12-26 04:23:55 PM

gopher321: Or go back to snail mail.


I wonder how feasible it would be to print packets as QR codes or something, then send them through snail mail.
 
2013-12-26 04:24:03 PM

change1211: Am I the only one getting sick of people constantly bringing up the NSA?


Nope.

"Mother of God! The NSA just infiltrated my e-mail and discovered my moms secret oatmeal chocolate chip cookie recipe!"
 
2013-12-26 04:28:30 PM
yea, until those pigeons get paid off.   they are american pigeons, you know.   anything goes for a dollar.
 
2013-12-26 04:29:10 PM

change1211: Am I the only one getting sick of people constantly bringing up the NSA?



how about No Strings Attached??
 
2013-12-26 04:33:03 PM

Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.


That's amazing! That's the same as the combination to my luggage!
 
2013-12-26 04:44:28 PM
Bird feathers on your lawn will now be probable cause for ~whatever~.
 
2013-12-26 04:44:42 PM
Well, everybody's heard about the bird
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Don't you know about the bird?
Well, everybody knows that the bird is a word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Don't you know about the bird?
Everybody knows that the bird is a word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Well, everybody's heard about the bird
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
Baby, bird, bird, bird
Bird is the word
 
2013-12-26 05:02:31 PM
I just use my numbers station.  Unbreakable.
 
2013-12-26 05:06:48 PM

MurphyMurphy: Bird feathers on your lawn will now be probable cause for ~whatever~.


That and sending letters in sealed envelopes, instead of writing in the open on post cards like someone with nothing to hide...
 
2013-12-26 05:31:08 PM
cdn-static.zdnet.com

This looks like it came from an NSA think tank
 
2013-12-26 05:44:42 PM
Future Internet Drone

fc03.deviantart.net
 
2013-12-26 05:57:23 PM
Dark wings, dark words
 
2013-12-26 06:25:34 PM
You could set the TTL on a ping with a little C4 and a tiny timer.
 
2013-12-26 06:51:27 PM
LewDux

What's wrong with foxing?

Nobody knows what a fox says.
 
2013-12-26 07:11:19 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-26 07:19:25 PM

Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.


They don't need to break it if they can read the plaintext off of your computer.

NSA Able to Foil Basic Safeguards of Privacy on Web

What they can't break, they sidestep by looking on the computers of those who use it.  Doesn't matter if you use the strongest encryption possible if they can put a keylogger or trojan on your machine and read it either before it gets encrypted, or after it's decrypted.

The only way to foil that is with strong encryption on an air-gapped computer, or strong manual encryption.
 
2013-12-26 08:48:57 PM
Well, duh! What do you think TCP/IP stands for, eh?

/Tame Carrier Pigeon/Internet Protocol
 
2013-12-26 11:01:37 PM

macdaddy357: Don't you know about the bird?
Well, everybody knows that the bird is a word


images.sodahead.com
 
2013-12-27 02:48:44 AM
YOU SHOT SPECKLED JIM?

/he was tasty
 
2013-12-27 06:22:56 AM

change1211: Am I the only one getting sick of people constantly bringing up the NSA?


I know, right? I mean some made-up government agency is all spooky in a popular movie or somesuch and all of a sudden everyone thinks it's real.
 
2013-12-27 06:32:02 AM
What a stupid idea
 
2013-12-27 08:49:09 AM

HexMadroom: Dark wings, dark words


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-27 12:17:56 PM

Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.


Or you could just use something other than AES as an algorithm, if you're really concerned about that. Twofish still holds up well, for example.
 
2013-12-27 03:06:01 PM

dittybopper: Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.

They don't need to break it if they can read the plaintext off of your computer.

NSA Able to Foil Basic Safeguards of Privacy on Web

What they can't break, they sidestep by looking on the computers of those who use it.  Doesn't matter if you use the strongest encryption possible if they can put a keylogger or trojan on your machine and read it either before it gets encrypted, or after it's decrypted.

The only way to foil that is with strong encryption on an air-gapped computer, or strong manual encryption.


Sure, but you'd have to be pretty high profile to warrant such targeted information gathering.  In that case, you'd be wise to take the extra precautions you mention.
 
2013-12-27 06:19:19 PM

Rezurok: dittybopper: Rezurok: Or *gasp* encrypt your sensitive data.  Contrary to what nutjobs might tell you, there is no NSA backdoor to AES encryption, and it will not be broken within your lifetime.  Just don't pick 12345 as your key generation password.

They don't need to break it if they can read the plaintext off of your computer.

NSA Able to Foil Basic Safeguards of Privacy on Web

What they can't break, they sidestep by looking on the computers of those who use it.  Doesn't matter if you use the strongest encryption possible if they can put a keylogger or trojan on your machine and read it either before it gets encrypted, or after it's decrypted.

The only way to foil that is with strong encryption on an air-gapped computer, or strong manual encryption.

Sure, but you'd have to be pretty high profile to warrant such targeted information gathering.  In that case, you'd be wise to take the extra precautions you mention.


Well, how do you know if you are being watched or not? It's not like they are going to let you know.

They check social connections several layers deep, can't remember of the top of my head but I think it's 4 levels deep*. Sure, you're not high profile, but what if a friend of a friend of a friend is?


*On iPod and looking it up is cumbersome.
 
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