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(Anchorage Daily News)   Guy hears Jesus talking to him. Alaska Supreme Court: "He's not crazy, just another good church-going fellow"   (adn.com) divider line 163
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2013-12-26 10:20:34 AM
Wow,


I wonder how long it will be before he goes out and hurts someone or himself based on the voice of jesus telling him to.
 
2013-12-26 10:45:48 AM
When he heard lucifer he was committed. When he heard Jesus he was ok?
 
2013-12-26 11:06:22 AM

Approves.


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2013-12-26 11:25:05 AM
I lean the other way.
Church going people should all be committed.
 
2013-12-26 12:43:06 PM
Lucky. Jesus only ever visits my grilled cheese for me.
 
2013-12-26 01:33:52 PM
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2013-12-26 01:36:21 PM
He should move to Texas or Arizona.  He'd be hearing from a lot of Jesuses.
 
2013-12-26 01:55:14 PM
www.thegreatdeejays.com
"Go take a shiat on the salad bar at Wendys!"
 
2013-12-26 02:34:31 PM
Religion is a magnet for the mentally ill.
 
2013-12-26 02:37:47 PM
"However, in (Stephen's) case, the religiosity that he manifested started five years ago and led him to behave in a way that was substantially dangerous to himself, and could have killed him," the psychiatrist said. "And it doesn't come from a cultural, historical context. It comes out of the blue."
The voices were back, the psychiatrist said, and that meant Stephen was a danger to himself again.

"In any event, even if Stephen's beliefs did come about suddenly, this should not undermine their validity," the opinion says. "More to the point, there was nothing harmful or dangerous about Stephen's religious beliefs or experiences. ... Further, as Stephen points out in his brief, if 'chronic psychosis' means merely a continuation of his current symptoms, namely a persistent sense that Jesus is speaking to him and telling him to attend church, follow his teachings, and have an optimistic outlook on the future, that condition would in no way compromise Stephen's capacity to function independently or live safely."


Good thing judges suddenly know more than psychiatrists. It'd be awesome if they could be sued for letting crazy out into the world to kill himself and others.
 
2013-12-26 02:59:02 PM

Heliovdrake: Wow,


I wonder how long it will be before he goes out and hurts someone or himself based on the voice of jesus telling him to.


WHEN he does, will Sarah Palin open her pie-hole again and claim the guy's faith is being attacked by those meanie lib'rulz?
 
2013-12-26 03:01:12 PM

Ennuipoet: [www.thegreatdeejays.com image 445x668]
"Go take a shiat on the salad bar at Wendys!"


Damnit to hell I miss him so much
 
2013-12-26 03:04:01 PM
If you talk to God then you're religious, if God talks back then you need help.
 
2013-12-26 03:06:21 PM
Have you heard the kind of crap Jesus talks lately?
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2013-12-26 03:06:58 PM
In the late 21st century it will be discovered that religious belief is neurological disorder.
 
2013-12-26 03:08:51 PM
If a man says he talks to God, we nod and shake our head. If a man says he talks to God through his toaster, we think he's crazy.

Why should the addition of an appliance make a difference?
 
2013-12-26 03:09:46 PM

dstanley: If a man says he talks to God, we nod and shake our head. If a man says he talks to God through his toaster, we think he's crazy.

Why should the addition of an appliance make a difference?


because who uses a toaster anymore...I mean really.
 
2013-12-26 03:11:51 PM
So you're sane as long as you worship the voices in your head. Got it. Thank you, unbiased Christian judge!
 
2013-12-26 03:13:13 PM
You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?
 
2013-12-26 03:14:43 PM
I'm not a psychiatrist, don't play one on TV, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, so I could be wrong on this. I was under the impression that hearing voices was one of the very few definitive red lines for whether or not someone was mentally ill. Anyone with a better background in psychology or neuroscience out there who could weigh in?
 
2013-12-26 03:18:29 PM
If a medication makes it impossible for your deity to talk to you then you have selected a pretty lame god.
 
2013-12-26 03:18:37 PM
Jesus spoke to me when I was a teenager, but all he said was to clean up my room and make sure I put my socks in the hamper.
 
2013-12-26 03:20:15 PM
Just up his meds, now getting him to take them all regularly is a whole different can of worms.
 
2013-12-26 03:21:42 PM
He's already hurt himself by jumping off a ledge, from the article:

"He broke his ankle, gashed his head, sustained a concussion, and was temporarily wheelchair-bound as a result"
 
2013-12-26 03:24:40 PM
Remember the population of Alaska is smaller than the fifth largest city in Texas. Your state may have a town or two larger. If so your municipal Court has just been challenged.
 
2013-12-26 03:26:14 PM

ghettodwarf: because who uses a toaster anymore...I mean really.


OK, Mr. Smartypants, how do YOU make toast, then?  Holding a piece of bread over a hot burner with a fork?

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2013-12-26 03:29:21 PM

Deucednuisance: ghettodwarf: because who uses a toaster anymore...I mean really.

OK, Mr. Smartypants, how do YOU make toast, then?  Holding a piece of bread over a hot burner with a fork?

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Coat hanger, duh!
 
2013-12-26 03:32:33 PM

A Cave Geek: You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?


Did the voice sound like Alan Rickman?
 
2013-12-26 03:32:53 PM
I have a friend named Phil. He gives me advice when I need it. He tells me what to do when I bring my problems to him. There is not a more important person in my life than Phil.

No one else has ever seen Phil, he is invisible. No one else can hear Phil, but I hear him. I know he is there. I know he is real.

You probably think I am not right in the head, and need a coat that ties in the back and a padded room. Phil is not real, and I need to be drugged up and counseled until I realize that.

Why is it suddenly OK if instead of Phil, my imaginary friend's name is Jesus?
 
2013-12-26 03:35:49 PM

uncoveror: I have a friend named Phil. He gives me advice when I need it. He tells me what to do when I bring my problems to him. There is not a more important person in my life than Phil.

No one else has ever seen Phil, he is invisible. No one else can hear Phil, but I hear him. I know he is there. I know he is real.

You probably think I am not right in the head, and need a coat that ties in the back and a padded room. Phil is not real, and I need to be drugged up and counseled until I realize that.

Why is it suddenly OK if instead of Phil, my imaginary friend's name is Jesus?


Well that's using logic. If religious people had any grasp of logic, they wouldn't be religious.
 
2013-12-26 03:36:39 PM

uncoveror: Why is it suddenly OK if instead of Phil, my imaginary friend's name is Jesus?


If your family would have spent hours and hours telling you about Phil when you were a child, it would be okay.
 
2013-12-26 03:37:08 PM

BMFPitt: A Cave Geek: You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?

Did the voice sound like Alan Rickman?


Ian McKellan
 
2013-12-26 03:37:35 PM
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2013-12-26 03:40:32 PM

A Cave Geek: You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?


so if some chick named 'Mary', who happens to be a virgin, tells her fiance that she's pregnant with god's child... she should be committed to an institution?  And when angels appear to her fiance and tell him it's ok... she's not a slut, name the kid 'Jesus' and just go with it... he should also be committed to an institution?  Seems like you think that some modern human 'judges' should have the ability to overrule 'the mystery of faith' or something...
 
2013-12-26 03:42:20 PM

Sofa King Smart: A Cave Geek: You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?

so if some chick named 'Mary', who happens to be a virgin, tells her fiance that she's pregnant with god's child... she should be committed to an institution?  And when angels appear to her fiance and tell him it's ok... she's not a slut, name the kid 'Jesus' and just go with it... he should also be committed to an institution?  Seems like you think that some modern human 'judges' should have the ability to overrule 'the mystery of faith' or something...


um....WTF????
 
2013-12-26 03:42:36 PM
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2013-12-26 03:43:55 PM

ghettodwarf: because who uses a toaster anymore...I mean really.


Amateurs.
Use an iron.
Behold! I am backing that statement with a chart for my own self assurance and your edification.

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2013-12-26 03:48:09 PM
This is the best part:

"potentially limiting the man's options for employment or owning guns."

Because that's what's important.
 
2013-12-26 03:48:45 PM
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2013-12-26 03:48:53 PM
"I hear a voice in my head."
"You're nuts!"
"He says his name is 'Jesus'."
"Hallelujah!"


Would it really be all that different is the guy had said the voice's name was "Bob"?

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Nucking futs is nucking futs, no matter what name it uses.
 
2013-12-26 03:49:59 PM
It is really sad that so many atheists are hateful and bitter. This is a trend I have noticed in the real world as well as on fark.


/I'll be praying for you.
 
2013-12-26 03:51:35 PM

special20: ghettodwarf: because who uses a toaster anymore...I mean really.

Amateurs.
Use an iron.
Behold! I am backing that statement with a chart for my own self assurance and your edification.

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You skipped "WOOL."


THE GRAPH IS A LIE!!1!
 
2013-12-26 03:52:58 PM
"I wonder how long it will be before he goes out and hurts someone or himself based on the voice of jesus telling him to."

Seeing that is the exact opposite of the Golden Rule that Jesus taught it's most likely just an excuse.
However, there's a ton of confusion on Fark about this kind of thing, so not too surprising.
 
2013-12-26 03:52:58 PM

Lee451: It is really sad that so many atheists are hateful and bitter. This is a trend I have noticed in the real world as well as on fark.


/I'll be praying for you.



Ignorance is bliss.
 
2013-12-26 03:54:34 PM

Wenchmaster: I'm not a psychiatrist, don't play one on TV, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, so I could be wrong on this. I was under the impression that hearing voices was one of the very few definitive red lines for whether or not someone was mentally ill. Anyone with a better background in psychology or neuroscience out there who could weigh in?


There's "crazy", then there's "crazy enough to warrant involuntary commitment". Nobody's denying that he's the first, the question is whether or not he's dangerous enough to be the second. If all he's doing at the moment is annoying people with crazy Jesus-talk, that's not dangerous enough. We don't just lock up anyone who is mentally I'll.
The counter argument is that he got dangerous last time, so let's lock him up before he does it again.
 
2013-12-26 03:55:19 PM

Lee451: I'll be praying for you.


Cool, I'll be doing a rain dance for you.  It'll be just as effective, but at least I'll have better quads.
 
2013-12-26 03:55:49 PM

Heliovdrake: Wow,


I wonder how long it will be before he goes out and hurts someone or himself based on the voice of jesus telling him to.


No legal reason why he couldn't go out and by a gun (maybe because Jesus told him to hunt down the vampires).
 
2013-12-26 03:56:48 PM

give me doughnuts: You skipped "WOOL."


...and here's why.
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2013-12-26 03:58:54 PM

BMFPitt: A Cave Geek: You talk to god, you're religious....God talks to you, you're insane.  Seems pretty simple to me.  What's this court's problem?

Did the voice sound like Alan Rickman?


He does have a magical voice.
 
2013-12-26 03:59:19 PM

AgentPothead: In the late 21st century it will be discovered that religious belief is neurological disorder.


His family already have:

"(Stephen would) ... talk about Jesus and going to church, and his behavior was "creeping her out." It was the same sort of behavior that led up to Stephen's prior suicide attempt, the father said."
 
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