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(The New York Times)   LAPD turns focus toward internal inefficiency and corruption. Just kidding, they're cracking down on jaywalkers   (nytimes.com) divider line 90
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2013-12-26 02:15:29 PM
Aren't there any minorities to roust?
 
2013-12-26 02:17:20 PM
$eem$ you $hould have $tepped into the cro$$walk, citizen.
 
2013-12-26 02:17:45 PM
It'$ all about upholding the law$ of the land.
 
2013-12-26 02:18:34 PM
The citizenry isn't going to brutalize itself, subby.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-12-26 02:19:19 PM
That"ll teach you to stay in the "No Taze" zone.
 
2013-12-26 02:19:53 PM
farking assholes raising money and doing what they really need to be doing because it is too hard.
 
2013-12-26 02:20:30 PM
i444.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-26 02:21:37 PM

johnny queso: farking assholes raising money and doing what they really need to be doing because it is too hard.


...not doing...

Typing is too hard.
 
2013-12-26 02:21:49 PM
I hate Jaywalkers and know that they do cause a lot of traffic accidents. But a $197 ticket for starting to cross while the "don't walk" is blinking?

That's "storming the Bastille" levels of stupid.
 
2013-12-26 02:22:58 PM
You whiny biatches. 

Goddamn sign says "Don't Farking Walk, you Farking icehole" ... what, you can't read?
 
2013-12-26 02:24:45 PM
How come I never seeing them ticking jaywalkers when they are actually blocking traffic?
Some people have so little going in their lives that they get their jollies by making cars wait.

It sounds like these examples weren't doing that...they were just making the mistake of crossing the street in view of cops with a quota to keep up.

/lives in LA
//Drives like I own the road
///When I am a pedestrian, I assume cars will hit me if I am not where I am supposed to be, and act accordingly.
 
2013-12-26 02:24:51 PM

fearthecowboy: You whiny biatches. 

Goddamn sign says "Don't Farking Walk, you Farking icehole" ... what, you can't read?


I don't look at signs, I look at traffic. That should be what decides when you start to cross.
 
2013-12-26 02:25:02 PM
Not the first walker busted in LA recently.

/too soon?
 
2013-12-26 02:27:02 PM
Since all crime seems to be eliminated, maybe they should think about laying off a few officers.
 
2013-12-26 02:27:10 PM
Behind tow truck drivers and city bus drivers, LAPD are the biggest menaces on our streets.
 
2013-12-26 02:29:47 PM

johnny queso: Behind tow truck drivers and city bus drivers, LAPD are the biggest menaces on our streets.


You misspelled "Asian women".
 
2013-12-26 02:30:10 PM
"Here is your ticket for jaywalking! While you are good and angry, please use the back of this ticket to provide any examples of police inefficiency or corruption that you have noticed, and turn it in to the nearest courthouse for investigation. Be sure to name names and give badge numbers, and don't forget your payment!"

There, problem solved.
 
2013-12-26 02:30:16 PM
These are Major Crimes!

Wanted Amy Sykes for Xmas, was disappointed.
 
2013-12-26 02:30:24 PM

mutterfark: Not the first walker busted in LA recently.

/too soon?

Considering I don't even know who you're talking about/referring to...No, carry on.
 
2013-12-26 02:30:52 PM
Joe Friday knows how tough some of those jaywalkers can be.
 
2013-12-26 02:31:07 PM

fearthecowboy: You whiny biatches. 

Goddamn sign says "Don't Farking Walk, you Farking icehole" ... what, you can't read?


I work in a major downtown area, and I am out walking and crossing the streets daily. If you're walking at any normal pace you can easily cross most streets while the "don't walk" sign is blinking. If I sat at intersections waiting for walk signals it would take me a half hour to get back to my office.

I'm totally in support of writing tickets for assholes who just wander into intersections in front of cars that have green lights, but ticketing someone for entering the intersection when the don't walk sign has just started to blink and all the cars have red lights is just a money grab.

They issue tickets for egregiously jaywalking around here after some asshole wanders in front of a bus for a couple of days to send the message of "STOP GETTING YOURSELF TURNED INTO PASTE BY CARS" and then stop enforcing it again.
 
2013-12-26 02:31:19 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Aren't there any minorities to roust?


They are just looking for more excuses to beat them.
Seriously, LAPD is synonymous with racist thugs.
 
2013-12-26 02:31:30 PM

i40.tinypic.com

 
2013-12-26 02:35:28 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: johnny queso: Behind tow truck drivers and city bus drivers, LAPD are the biggest menaces on our streets.

You misspelled "Asian women".


You're right. I live in koreatown, so I guess the trauma of the Asian driver must've caused me to block that from memory. The driving in ktown is really beyond compare.
 
2013-12-26 02:38:47 PM
The local cops tried that on me in my hometown not too long ago. There's a gas station across the street where everyone in our complex goes to get food and other stuff.

I had to go to court and explain the difference between an "implied" crosswalk and a "designated" crosswalk and what the Uniform Traffic Code had to say about crossing the street safely.  Then ended my defense with an appeal to have our local cops educated on what they can, and more importantly, what they cannot enforce.

I've never paid for a ticket in my life.
 
2013-12-26 02:38:49 PM

TheMega: [i40.tinypic.com image 736x633]


Well, I mean, he IS standing in the crosswalk with a green light in the background. Most states say that a pedestrian has the right of way in a crosswalk, but it IS jaywalking if the intersection is controlled by a pedestrian signal indicator.
 
2013-12-26 02:38:53 PM
In theory, this enforcement is a great idea. There is a certain subsection of people (transients) out here that wait till their light is red, and then slowly cross the the street to block traffic. It's the most annoying thing I've ever seen, and I been all over this country and it seems pretty unique to LA. It makes no sense.

In practice, this law sucks. LAPD will only ticket people that they know can pay the tickets. Basically, the transients that this law is needed for will never get one of these tickets. The people trying to get to work? You better believe they will be targeted. At this point everything the LAPD does in some way is a taxpayer shakedown.
 
2013-12-26 02:44:18 PM

johnny queso: Sin_City_Superhero: johnny queso: Behind tow truck drivers and city bus drivers, LAPD are the biggest menaces on our streets.

You misspelled "Asian women".

You're right. I live in koreatown, so I guess the trauma of the Asian driver must've caused me to block that from memory. The driving in ktown is really beyond compare.


my friend lives there as well. and he shares the same horror about the driving that you do.
 
2013-12-26 02:44:47 PM

Banacek: It's the most annoying thing I've ever seen, and I been all over this country and it seems pretty unique to LA


It isn't, unfortunately. There's a street on my drive home with a large population of transients and I've seen them literally walk in front of oncoming traffic (not even at an intersection) with their middle finger extended to the cars honking at them.

At least the ladies in heels stumbling into intersections like Bambi on ice downtown are doing it because they're too stupid to know better. The homeless guys do it just to be assholes.
 
2013-12-26 02:45:19 PM

Treygreen13: I hate Jaywalkers and know that they do cause a lot of traffic accidents. But a $197 ticket for starting to cross while the "don't walk" is blinking?  That's "storming the Bastille" levels of stupid.


I would think that as long as I know I can get my ass across the street before it becomes a solid no-walking signal, I should be allowed to do it.  But I could see how cities might want a small break so that cars making a turn have a chance to do so before the light turns red.

And if the city is going to start actively enforcing jaywalking, then it needs to spend some cash and install crosswalks between street intersections.  Walking 1000' up the street to a crosswalk and then 1000' back just to get to a building directly across the street is retarded.

The only two places I've ever seen with a real problem with jaywalking are Las Vegas and San Francisco.  In the former, tourists along the Strip completely ignore no-walking signs after the lights turn, and they block traffic like crazy.  In the latter, passive-aggressive bums in crappy parts of downtown cross streets wherever and whenever they want to.  They know that you'll stop, and if you don't and they live, they can sue your ass.  They're usually looking you in the eye as they do it.  Jaywalking fines don't do anything since they're farking homeless.

/loves dropping to 2nd gear, hitting the gas, revving the V8 to a few thousand RPM when a SF bum plays jaywalk dare
//they're actually very fast and agile little farkers when they want to be
 
2013-12-26 02:48:36 PM

Treygreen13: I'm totally in support of writing tickets for assholes who just wander into intersections in front of cars that have green lights, but ticketing someone for entering the intersection when the don't walk sign has just started to blink and all the cars have red lights is just a money grab.


Those are the farkers that need the tickets.

I too work in a downtown area and multiple times a week some idiot (or groups of idiots) will cross mid-block and make traffic either slow down or come to a complete stop while they take their leisurely waltz.
 
2013-12-26 02:48:37 PM
www.wearysloth.com

/can't believe I'm first
 
2013-12-26 02:49:04 PM

Dinjiin: I would think that as long as I know I can get my ass across the street before it becomes a solid no-walking signal, I should be allowed to do it.  But I could see how cities might want a small break so that cars making a turn have a chance to do so before the light turns red.


I guess my issue isn't so much with enforcing the laws on the books about Jaywalking, but enforcing them with a $200 fine and picking nits about mere seconds of crossing. Especially considering how egregiously some people Jaywalk and never, ever, ever face the prospect of enforcement of that law.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-12-26 02:51:01 PM

fearthecowboy: You whiny biatches.

Goddamn sign says "Don't Farking Walk, you Farking icehole" ... what, you can't read?


Welcome to NYC. Blinky signs mean jack-shatt.

"I'm walkin here!"
www.soundonsight.org
 
2013-12-26 02:52:01 PM

mjohnson71: I too work in a downtown area and multiple times a week some idiot (or groups of idiots) will cross mid-block and make traffic either slow down or come to a complete stop while they take their leisurely waltz.


The other day I was waiting to pull into my garage with a green light telling me to go and 3 cars behind me and these two motherfarkers literally stopped to have a conversation in the intersection. I just can't comprehend that action... I've been nearly killed on multiple occasions because people just blast through reds and I'm in the intersection with a walk sign and the only thing that kept me on this planet was the fact that I noticed them not slowing down. I can't imagine turning my back to traffic with a green light and chatting to someone.
 
2013-12-26 02:52:14 PM

Treygreen13: Dinjiin: I would think that as long as I know I can get my ass across the street before it becomes a solid no-walking signal, I should be allowed to do it.  But I could see how cities might want a small break so that cars making a turn have a chance to do so before the light turns red.

I guess my issue isn't so much with enforcing the laws on the books about Jaywalking, but enforcing them with a $200 fine and picking nits about mere seconds of crossing. Especially considering how egregiously some people Jaywalk and never, ever, ever face the prospect of enforcement of that law.


Agreed.  The fine doesn't seem to be fair for the crime.
 
2013-12-26 02:52:22 PM
github.com

They're a scourge, and deserve to be prosecuted as much as bad drivers do.
 
2013-12-26 02:56:36 PM

echomike23: johnny queso: Sin_City_Superhero: johnny queso: Behind tow truck drivers and city bus drivers, LAPD are the biggest menaces on our streets.

You misspelled "Asian women".

You're right. I live in koreatown, so I guess the trauma of the Asian driver must've caused me to block that from memory. The driving in ktown is really beyond compare.

my friend lives there as well. and he shares the same horror about the driving that you do.


I would say 75% of the drivers are completely unaware that there are other cars on the road. The thought of what driving in Seoul would be like keeps me awake at night.
 
2013-12-26 03:07:29 PM

Maggie_Luna: mutterfark: Not the first walker busted in LA recently.

/too soon?
Considering I don't even know who you're talking about/referring to...No, carry on.


Hint:  The Walker's name was Paul.

/the joke just exploded into a fireball inside my head
 
2013-12-26 03:12:11 PM
 Chief Beck said the crackdown was a matter of public safety and traffic flow, noting the frustration of drivers trying to make turns and faced with crosswalks filled with people.

wasn't the whole point to have the people in the crosswalks? right turn on red laws explicitly says when no people are in the way.
 
2013-12-26 03:18:52 PM
I work in Downtown LA.  I've seen this kind of scheme a few times now.  They used to love running this at the 7th & Metro red line station intersection.

They will ticket pedestrians in business apparel who step into the intersection to cross after the red blinking "Don't Walk" hand has started flashing.  There are two issues with this:

There can be so many people waiting to cross the street that you have to wait your turn to get to the actual curb to step off and cross the street.  You'd seriously just look like an idiot if you didn't step out to cross because the red hand had started flashing - you just go with the crowd of people around you when you finally get up to the curb and begin to cross, hoping the asshole cops don't single you out as the slowest gazelle in the herd and ticket you.  You still have plenty of time to cross the street in this scenario, unless you are handicapped, or drop an entire folder of papers or something.

The second issue is that pedestrians waiting to cross are often held up, when it is their turn to go, because cars are running the red light and would mow them down, or because traffic has backed up into the crosswalk (and into the intersection, really), so you are kind of standing there on the curb trying to figure out the best path to pick your way through the vehicles which are inching forward, because they know they've got their asses sticking into the interection and are blocking traffic.  Busses do this routinely.  I almost never see a cop ticket a vehicle or a bus for blocking an intersection.  I also never see them intervene when a crazy homeless person camps out in the middle of the street and blocks traffic.

Also, the tickets used to be $147.  Times are tough, I guess....gotta shake down more of those paralegals and accounting clerks trying to get to their office buildings for work!
 
2013-12-26 03:19:34 PM

Raug the Dwarf: The local cops tried that on me in my hometown not too long ago. There's a gas station across the street where everyone in our complex goes to get food and other stuff.

I had to go to court and explain the difference between an "implied" crosswalk and a "designated" crosswalk and what the Uniform Traffic Code had to say about crossing the street safely.  Then ended my defense with an appeal to have our local cops educated on what they can, and more importantly, what they cannot enforce.

I've never paid for a ticket in my life.


doesn't mean you've never been guilty
 
2013-12-26 03:20:18 PM
So, same thing as forever?
 
2013-12-26 03:20:44 PM
Now if they'd only crack down on the bikers without mufflers...
 
2013-12-26 03:22:02 PM

Curious: Chief Beck said the crackdown was a matter of public safety and traffic flow, noting the frustration of drivers trying to make turns and faced with crosswalks filled with people.

wasn't the whole point to have the people in the crosswalks? right turn on red laws explicitly says when no people are in the way.


It's happened to me before. When I leave my garage I have to make a right at the next street - a street that does not have a signifcant pause between "pedestrians finish crossing" and "other lane gets to go" periods.

While I have a green light to turn right the pedestrians also have a green light to walk and I yield to them. If they keep walking in the intersection in spite of being told not to, they eat into the very very brief window where I can turn right and sometimes I simply don't get to turn at all because someone was careless with crossing. This encourages some drivers to drive partially into the intersection (and block the crosswalk in their lane) to try to sneak in between pedestrians before the other lane gets to go, and you end up with cars sideways in intersections at (now red) signals and the pedestrians that just crossed legally can't cross in that lane.

It can be very frustrating. It doesn't happen to me very often but occasionally I'll have to wait an entire new light cycle just because some asshole doesn't know how to cross the street.
 
2013-12-26 03:22:13 PM
GOOD. This has been a problem in L.A. for a looooong time.

I'm tired of people who are too damn lazy to walk a few extra yards to use a crosswalk.
 
2013-12-26 03:29:11 PM
If there's NO ONE AROUND LATE AT NIGHT and you're gonna use a crosswalk
where it says DON'T WALK, you can bet there's a pig in the shadows waiting to pounce.
I hear in LA it's $300.

I was gonna cross, and my friend told me all about it.
Farking namby pamby state.
If the cop pops his lights after waiting in the dark, that's entrapment though.
Just make sure the PARKING LIGHTS weren't on.

Arizona jaywalking holding a pistol or AK strapped on your back? NOT A CRIME.

/nobody walks in L.A.
 
2013-12-26 03:30:01 PM
could be worse.  My town is using police officers as CROSSING GUARDS.
 
2013-12-26 03:37:30 PM
For a $197 fine, better to kill the cop and hope to get away with that.
 
2013-12-26 03:42:57 PM

Treygreen13: It can be very frustrating.


not in LA but i've had that happen. it is annoying. and i understand dick pedestrians having seen a few of them too. it looks like as per usual LAPD got told to ticket and away they went. a sliding scale for the tickets might make all this work better. as for the homeless throw their ass on the bus with a ticket to bakersfield.
 
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