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2013-12-26 08:43:15 AM
Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.
 
2013-12-26 08:46:01 AM

nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.


Ditto, with a nice backstop angled down into a sand pit.
 
2013-12-26 09:29:47 AM
I have lots of friends in both Europe and America. Care to guess which group filled my Facebook news feed with descriptions of their Christmas presents being knives, ammo, and guns?

We're a weird country.
 
2013-12-26 09:34:13 AM
Yah, I have a safe range too. The last time a story like this caught my eye, it was on FARK, the address was in TFA. I pulled up google Earth and thought WTF were they thinking? Fortunately nobody got hurt in that one though.
 
2013-12-26 09:41:06 AM
Sometimes you read a headline that makes no sense at all, then you see the Florida tag and it does.
 
2013-12-26 10:07:24 AM

nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.


So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?
 
2013-12-26 10:09:59 AM
Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.
 
2013-12-26 10:10:30 AM
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2013-12-26 10:13:07 AM

Gecko Gingrich: nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.

So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?


Are you suggesting that because he said he had 5 acres that everything beyond that is wall to wall doe-eyed children?
 
2013-12-26 10:14:59 AM
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2013-12-26 10:21:19 AM

Calmamity: Are you suggesting that because he said he had 5 acres that everything beyond that is wall to wall doe-eyed children?


I'm suggesting that someone else's property starts at the end of his 5 acres. Also, I'm suggesting that at distances approaching 3000 feet many pistol loads still have enough energy to kill or seriously maim. Also, as someone who lives in the sticks, I'm suggesting that his bit of Saturday morning sport may in fact wake his neighbors up many miles away.
 
2013-12-26 10:23:28 AM

edmo: We're a weird country.


The level of violence in the U.S. shocks and appalls the other first world nations.
 
2013-12-26 10:31:07 AM
With a helpful picture of what bullets might look like.
 
2013-12-26 10:32:52 AM
Rule 4.
 
2013-12-26 10:32:54 AM

vudukungfu: nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.

Ditto, with a nice backstop angled down into a sand pit.


At my parents:  Backstop is a mountain.
 
2013-12-26 10:33:09 AM

nekom: Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.


I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.  Am I missing something here?

1 acre = 43560 square feet
5 acres = 217800 square feet
 
2013-12-26 10:33:22 AM
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2013-12-26 10:34:29 AM
Remind me not to hire this guy whenever I decide to get my cable fixed.
 
2013-12-26 10:35:31 AM
Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf
 
2013-12-26 10:36:31 AM

nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.


I have a back-yard range also. It's hand-guns only. Very safe and with a big earthen wall behind it. If you're doing it safely, you don't need a lot of property to use it.
I'm on 1.25 acres
 
2013-12-26 10:36:38 AM

RexTalionis: Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf


Yes. If you emptied about a million rounds into it.
 
2013-12-26 10:37:22 AM
Live on a farm and have a natural 20' berm. As for waking people up, lots of hunters and shooters in my are. Gunshots are as natural as howling coyotes and horse whinneys
 
2013-12-26 10:37:28 AM
Whole lotta derp in the thread already.
 
2013-12-26 10:37:38 AM

edmo: I have lots of friends in both Europe and America. Care to guess which group filled my Facebook news feed with descriptions of their Christmas presents being knives, ammo, and guns?

We're a weird country.


No we are a large country with a lot of rural areas, high crime, and even a good sized wilderness. I maintain that guns are only scary, because we do not do enough to teach gun safety. There should be a mandatory gun education, in 1st, 5th, 9th, and 12th grade that goes over pistols, shotguns, and rifles.

That way every public school age child should know more than "If you see a gun go tell an adult."
 
2013-12-26 10:37:47 AM

RexTalionis: Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf


The range I belongs to tear down their berms every few years and sifts out the heavy metals and sells it to a scrap yard.
 
2013-12-26 10:38:22 AM
"Aw, hyuck! It's got-dang Krissmis n' um an Amurican so I's gonna shoot ma guns fer Krissmis!"
 
2013-12-26 10:38:29 AM

Gecko Gingrich: nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.

So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?


Yes.
 
2013-12-26 10:39:31 AM

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2013-12-26 10:40:02 AM

2wolves: edmo: We're a weird country.

The level of violence in the U.S. shocks and appalls the other first world nations.


Except for the UK I suppose.
 
2013-12-26 10:40:55 AM
"Christmas Day Shattered By Fatal Shooting In Deltona"

How about "Man's Chest Shattered"?
 
2013-12-26 10:42:32 AM

Calmamity: Gecko Gingrich: nekom: Only obvious results if you do it wrong.  I have a backyard range, but then my back "yard" is about 5 acres.

So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

Are you suggesting that because he said he had 5 acres that everything beyond that is wall to wall doe-eyed children?


Also that his backyard is square.
 
2013-12-26 10:42:33 AM

the_celt: I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.


True. It's 4.6 acres. I used round numbers instead of stating his back yard was 466.7 x 466.7.
 
2013-12-26 10:45:34 AM

Kit Fister: Gunshots are as natural as howling coyotes and horse whinneys


Hahahahahahah

No

You just have convinced yourself that.
 
2013-12-26 10:45:36 AM

the_celt: nekom: Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.

I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.  Am I missing something here?

1 acre = 43560 square feet
5 acres = 217800 square feet


/ 217,800 which is approximately 450x450 feet.
 
2013-12-26 10:47:00 AM

robertey: 2wolves: edmo: We're a weird country.

The level of violence in the U.S. shocks and appalls the other first world nations.

Except for the UK I suppose.


That's hysterically untrue.
 
2013-12-26 10:47:20 AM

stuhayes2010: RexTalionis: Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf

Yes. If you emptied about a million rounds into it.


Based on my reading of the article I supplied, as little as 200 rounds of .22, which is abraded into lead powder as it is passed through the berm backstop, can be transformed to hydrocerussite and other lead compounds contaminating soil in as little as 7 days.
 
2013-12-26 10:49:39 AM

adm_crunch: Also that his backyard is square.


I guess his yard could be 1 foot wide by 38 miles long. Or 100' x 2100'. Or 50' x 4400', but that seems fairly narrow.

My point was "5 acres" is - in and of itself - hardly enough area to be safely firing off a few rounds. Now, if he's got an abandoned quarry behind and "industrial hillside" flanking his property (that he can guarantee will never have anyone wandering around in), sure have at it.
 
2013-12-26 10:49:45 AM
I live in a one bedroom apartment and have a shooting range.
Anyone have a problem.
 
2013-12-26 10:50:00 AM

Ennuipoet: Sometimes you read a headline that makes no sense at all, then you see the Florida tag and it does.


A 2011 Florida law prohibits cities and counties from regulating use of firearms.

Apparently the bullet didn't come from the range.

I can't do much about living near a gun owner but I sure don't want to hang out with any.
 
2013-12-26 10:50:26 AM

the_celt: nekom: Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.

I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.  Am I missing something here?

1 acre = 43560 square feet
5 acres = 217800 square feet


Math and rounding skills, perhaps? Just kidding. But, really, 450x450 is close to 5 acres.
 
2013-12-26 10:50:45 AM

RexTalionis: stuhayes2010: RexTalionis: Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf

Yes. If you emptied about a million rounds into it.

Based on my reading of the article I supplied, as little as 200 rounds of .22, which is abraded into lead powder as it is passed through the berm backstop, can be transformed to hydrocerussite and other lead compounds contaminating soil in as little as 7 days.


And this is why you spread Lyme over the berm so as to speed up oxidation and prevent leaching of lead into the water table. Duh.
 
2013-12-26 10:51:09 AM

RexTalionis: stuhayes2010: RexTalionis: Random question - even if you build a dirt berm as a backstop for your own range, aren't you just setting yourself for lead contamination of your land later on in time?

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contami na tion%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf

Yes. If you emptied about a million rounds into it.

Based on my reading of the article I supplied, as little as 200 rounds of .22, which is abraded into lead powder as it is passed through the berm backstop, can be transformed to hydrocerussite and other lead compounds contaminating soil in as little as 7 days.


That is because you cheated and actually read the article. Gun advocates know better than to read stuff created by the liberal media and them scientists.
 
2013-12-26 10:51:17 AM

robertey: 2wolves: edmo: We're a weird country.

The level of violence in the U.S. shocks and appalls the other first world nations.

Except for the UK I suppose.


Huh? The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world. Some police officers  even go unarmed.
 
2013-12-26 10:52:42 AM

wichitaleaf: I live in a one bedroom apartment and have a shooting range.
Anyone have a problem.


How high is the dirt berm?
 
2013-12-26 10:52:58 AM

Shadow Blasko: Kit Fister: Gunshots are as natural as howling coyotes and horse whinneys

Hahahahahahah

No

You just have convinced yourself that.


Rather have the sound of distant target practice than thumping bass.

And I'm used to it. I don't care, don't like it? Don't live here.
 
2013-12-26 10:53:51 AM

the_celt: nekom: Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.

I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.  Am I missing something here?

1 acre = 43560 square feet
5 acres = 217800 square feet


You got so close to finding the solution, but stopped a step too soon. You need to square 450 and compare.
 
2013-12-26 10:53:54 AM

Ablejack: the_celt: nekom: Gecko Gingrich:
So, you have a backyard that's approximately 450x450 feet and you figure that's a safe area in which to fire off a few rounds?

It's beyond safe, there's an old limestone quarry in the back and all of the adjacent property is unused industrial zoned hillside.  I'm not trying to pull off sniper maneuvers or anything.

I was told that math was not on the test however, 450x450 is not 5 acres.  Am I missing something here?

1 acre = 43560 square feet
5 acres = 217800 square feet

/ 217,800 which is approximately 450x450 feet.


450*450 = 202,500.  Accurate to +/- 10%

thecelt, you suck at math.
 
2013-12-26 10:53:55 AM

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2013-12-26 10:54:03 AM

2wolves: edmo: We're a weird country.

The level of violence in the U.S. shocks and appalls the other first world nations.


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2013-12-26 10:54:47 AM
Subby obviously jumped to a conclusion.
 
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