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2013-12-25 09:22:48 PM
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2013-12-25 10:15:01 PM
What's the world coming to where a teacher doesn't keep the panties in a drawer in his desk will all the other weird shiat students have brought and had confiscated?

The trophy drawer is a time honored tradition.
 
2013-12-25 10:15:53 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-25 10:18:40 PM
Oh boo f*cking hoo. Somebody really got their panties in a bunch over this.
 
2013-12-25 10:23:15 PM
FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
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2013-12-25 10:25:58 PM
So he played a prank on a kid. Big deal. Sounds like it was done in innocent fun. They should just tell him to knock it off. No need to really punish him at all.
 
2013-12-25 10:26:03 PM

Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
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Well, he is going to lose a years pay... So there is that.
 
2013-12-25 10:26:58 PM

Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
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I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing. Would people prefer a child shiat on the floor?
 
2013-12-25 10:32:34 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing.


You've never met a child, have you?

If you don't have rules like hall passes or at least asking, then the bad kids will just get up and leave. And usually the bad kids are the cool ones so the betas will follow them.

Left to their own devices, they'll just hang out in the toilet all class or skip school and go light fires or something.
 
2013-12-25 10:40:22 PM

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I was only tryin' to give the kid a pair of those purty purple squirrel covers is all.

 
2013-12-25 10:42:09 PM
Looks like a purple panty hider to me.
 
2013-12-25 10:42:35 PM
From another article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/raymond-wantroba-teacher_n_3 0 41601.html

This isn't his first offense: "Two Broward County teachers previously disciplined for harassing their students are again in trouble... Last May, Wantroba, 55, was suspended for three days without pay after he refused to allow a student to use the restroom and the student defecated in his pants. Wantroba also received counseling about his classroom management in 2006, 2007 and 2009."

Not exactly 'Teacher of the Year' material.
 
2013-12-25 10:47:44 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
.

I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing. Would people prefer a child shiat on the floor?


Partly because children with behavioral issues will use the bathroom pass as a means of avoiding class without being punished for cutting school.

Also partly because of accountability -where is the child when the fire alarm rings or when the school initiates its lockdown procedures? The first thing we would have to do after ushering the students to a designated safe location was take attendance. A missing student creates a shiatstorm of trouble as the school admins or SROs fan out to find him or her, particularly if the student is young (in terms of age or emotional maturity) or handicapped.
 
2013-12-25 10:53:15 PM
That whole story was just weird.

First I thought it was a female teacher putting her panties in a young man's locker.
Then I read 'he' so maybe it's a male teacher giving a gift to a female student.
But no, it's a male teacher putting some panties he found into a boy's shoe.

WTF?
 
2013-12-25 10:57:42 PM

doglover: teenage mutant ninja rapist: I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing.

You've never met a child, have you?

If you don't have rules like hall passes or at least asking, then the bad kids will just get up and leave. And usually the bad kids are the cool ones so the betas will follow them.

Left to their own devices, they'll just hang out in the toilet all class or skip school and go light fires or something.


One of my students last year would do exactly that - sit in the bathroom for 35 minutes out of a 55 minute class period. She would spend the time texting and Tweeting (which was dumb as herTweets made it explicitly clear that she was avoiding class and not suffering from a gastronomical issue). She would blow up if we tried to keep her in class or confiscate her phone.

She was eventually placed in a specialized behavior-assistance program. Classes after her exit were markedly more relaxed and productive.
 
2013-12-25 11:02:00 PM

vinniethepoo: So he played a prank on a kid. Big deal. Sounds like it was done in innocent fun. They should just tell him to knock it off. No need to really punish him at all.


Yeah, so what if he's supposed to be the adult in the room?

Kids need to learn that valuable lesson early as they can that no one should be trusted and to keep their head in a swivel.

Feelings and trust are signs of weekness and should be either beaten out of a child at a young age or just learn to "get over it" when an adult betrays them
 
2013-12-25 11:03:28 PM

vinniethepoo: So he played a prank on a kid. Big deal. Sounds like it was done in innocent fun. They should just tell him to knock it off. No need to really punish him at all.


no, it sounds like he is a royal asshole.

perfect gym teacher material, give him his job back and a raise.
 
2013-12-25 11:03:53 PM

IamTomJoad: Feelings and trust are signs of weekness

...

I heard about this last weak.
 
2013-12-25 11:06:54 PM
Big deal.
get over it

One less kid who is "just in love with ehr color Purple"

/Run away if you don't want to stick your pecker in a Black 'n' Decker pecker wrecker.
 
2013-12-25 11:20:22 PM
A gym teacher isn't a teacher.

That's all.
 
2013-12-25 11:47:06 PM

nanim: From another article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/raymond-wantroba-teacher_n_3 0 41601.html

This isn't his first offense: "Two Broward County teachers previously disciplined for harassing their students are again in trouble... Last May, Wantroba, 55, was suspended for three days without pay after he refused to allow a student to use the restroom and the student defecated in his pants. Wantroba also received counseling about his classroom management in 2006, 2007 and 2009."

Not exactly 'Teacher of the Year' material.


Funny how these "OMG isn't this outrageous!" stories are often less outrageous when you dig a little deeper...
 
2013-12-25 11:47:43 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing. Would people prefer a child shiat on the floor?


i141.photobucket.com

Russians don't take a dump, son, without a plan.
 
2013-12-25 11:51:01 PM
I wonder how these purple panties came into the teacher's "trophy drawer" and what a cute chick wearing such might look like

/legal chick, of course
 
2013-12-25 11:52:58 PM

quo vadimus: A gym teacher isn't a teacher.

That's all.


Oh really? Most all of our male teachers were coaches., oh wait ya the did have one old fat dude to watch the gym his wife was the English teacher.

/She cheated on him with the principal.
//Strange times
/// I had to leave and get a GED before going to collage
//yes it was because of them.
/ Political comics are not appreciated by school types ; )
 
2013-12-25 11:58:35 PM
And yet no one asks where the panties originally came from?!
That's a scandal waiting to happen!
 
2013-12-26 12:03:18 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: /// I had to leave and get a GED before going to collage


Team Never Graduated: With Honors!

I knew there was a reason I liked you.
 
2013-12-26 12:24:13 AM
Of all the things you read about teachers getting away with, this is what they want to fire one over? A harmless prank?
 
2013-12-26 12:31:10 AM
It beats a teacher taking a pair of panties out of somebody's locker...
 
2013-12-26 12:50:29 AM
Meanwhile, if he had put them in a female student's locker, it would have ended up being a sex crime instead of a hazing.

Those who can't teach, teach gym.
 
2013-12-26 12:51:26 AM
That story was not at all what I thought it was going to be.  That being said, he's still a farking asshole and really shouldn't be working with kids.
 
2013-12-26 12:59:01 AM

doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: /// I had to leave and get a GED before going to collage

Team Never Graduated: With Honors!

I knew there was a reason I liked you.


Indeed, we lived our own lives and I learned more through books than I ever would a teacher.
 
2013-12-26 01:11:46 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: quo vadimus: A gym teacher isn't a teacher.


Oh really? Most all of our male teachers were coaches.


Yeah, gym "teacher" different than coach, as you remember. My history teacher was my coach and one of the most important people in my young life. Gym teacher, though... It's been a long time, but I was on the cutting edge of the development of the "I did everything" kid, so they offered summer gym to anyone who wanted to take it so that you could take more 'real' classes during the year. That left the "I know I'm going nowhere" kids to be 'taught' gym during the year. In both seasons the adults in charge of gym were babysitting so that a box could be checked, plain and simple.

Could I "possibly" have "used" more quotation marks in a "single" post?
 
2013-12-26 01:12:42 AM

Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
.


Don't let homosexuals near children ever!
 
2013-12-26 01:23:56 AM

Resident Muslim: And yet no one asks where the panties originally came from?!
That's a scandal waiting to happen!


The Japanese Studies class. They have a vending machine.
 
2013-12-26 01:30:33 AM

quo vadimus: tinfoil-hat maggie: quo vadimus: A gym teacher isn't a teacher.


Oh really? Most all of our male teachers were coaches.

Yeah, gym "teacher" different than coach, as you remember. My history teacher was my coach and one of the most important people in my young life. Gym teacher, though... It's been a long time, but I was on the cutting edge of the development of the "I did everything" kid, so they offered summer gym to anyone who wanted to take it so that you could take more 'real' classes during the year. That left the "I know I'm going nowhere" kids to be 'taught' gym during the year. In both seasons the adults in charge of gym were babysitting so that a box could be checked, plain and simple.

Could I "possibly" have "used" more quotation marks in a "single" post?


Well that's nice, my art teacher sort of saved me through most of it but...well. My parents and teachers insured I would never pick up a high school diploma.

\Nobody told me
 
2013-12-26 01:37:55 AM

Duke_leto_Atredes: Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
.

Don't let homosexuals near children ever!


smuj.home.comcast.net
Not sure how that was the takeaway from my post...was it the 'deeper problems' line? Because what I meant was, a teacher who is repeatedly 'counselled' but not fired, a 'resting' security guard, and the fact that the teacher lied to police but the school's version didn't come into play until the trial are all indications of failure on the part of school/district administration.
 
2013-12-26 02:33:44 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
.

I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing. Would people prefer a child shiat on the floor?


Cause the usher is legally responsible for multiple children... Pugh, and a requirement to be in a mainstream classroom is to be house trained..
 
2013-12-26 02:37:20 AM

ReapTheChaos: Of all the things you read about teachers getting away with, this is what they want to fire one over? A harmless prank?


Not so sure the"butt of the joke" felt it was harmless.
 
2013-12-26 03:31:39 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Resident Muslim: And yet no one asks where the panties originally came from?!
That's a scandal waiting to happen!

The Japanese Studies class. They have a vending machine.


Ok. I larfed.

I was more expecting some teacher and/or student scandal.

Your comment took me by surprise.
 
2013-12-26 04:36:33 AM

Gig103: Meanwhile, if he had put them in a female student's locker, it would have ended up being a sex crime instead of a hazing.

Those who can't teach, teach gym.


Yeah, I was expecting uber creepy situation where he gifted a girl he was stalking so he could imagine her wearing the panties.  That article will probably break next week.
 
2013-12-26 06:04:45 AM
Shouldn't that teacher be heavily threatened to be put on The List of Lifelong Damnation, like that kid who streaked?

Zero tolerance, baby.
 
2013-12-26 08:02:08 AM
Teacher - leave them kids alone.
 
2013-12-26 09:15:31 AM

quo vadimus: tinfoil-hat maggie: quo vadimus: A gym teacher isn't a teacher.


Oh really? Most all of our male teachers were coaches.

Yeah, gym "teacher" different than coach, as you remember. My history teacher was my coach and one of the most important people in my young life. Gym teacher, though... It's been a long time, but I was on the cutting edge of the development of the "I did everything" kid, so they offered summer gym to anyone who wanted to take it so that you could take more 'real' classes during the year. That left the "I know I'm going nowhere" kids to be 'taught' gym during the year. In both seasons the adults in charge of gym were babysitting so that a box could be checked, plain and simple.

Could I "possibly" have "used" more quotation marks in a "single" post?


I read your last sentence in William Shatners voice.
 
2013-12-26 10:47:49 AM

Brainsick: Duke_leto_Atredes: Brainsick: FTFA:  During lunch hour that day, a campus security guard was resting in the gym teacher's office when Wantroba placed the panties on the guard's leg and took a photo....Later that day, two students who shared a locker were changing at the end of their gym class. One of the students discovered the panties stuffed into his shoe...."When he took the panties out of his shoe, he was among between 30 and 40 classmates, many of whom laughed at him," the judge's order states...Wantroba also laughed and asked the student if the panties were his, the judge wrote...Wantroba told the judge he didn't place the panties in the locker and denied teasing the boy, but "that denial is not credible," the judge wrote, saying the teacher confessed to the incident during a school district investigation...School district officials said Wantroba was suspended without pay for three days in 2012 for refusing to allow a student to use the restroom."

An asshole gym teacher with a pattern of being an asshole finally gets called on it and faces no real punishment...good to know school hasn't changed much since I went; though, the bolded parts of this article are indicative (to me) of deeper problems at this school than just an asshole gym teacher.
.

Don't let homosexuals near children ever!


Not sure how that was the takeaway from my post...was it the 'deeper problems' line? Because what I meant was, a teacher who is repeatedly 'counselled' but not fired, a 'resting' security guard, and the fact that the teacher lied to police but the school's version didn't come into play until the trial are all indications of failure on the part of school/district administration.


Well let's start with the "gym" teacher title , long a domain for the closet homosexual of both genders.
 
2013-12-26 12:00:44 PM
theventus.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-26 01:22:49 PM

shtychkn: Pugh, and a requirement to be in a mainstream classroom is to be house trained.


You would think that, wouldn't you?
 
2013-12-26 01:25:47 PM

aevorea: Partly because children with behavioral issues will use the bathroom pass as a means of avoiding class without being punished for cutting school.


Entirely because adults with behavioral issues try to control the defection of perfectly normal children who don't want to be locked in school all day.
 
2013-12-26 01:28:26 PM

doglover: You've never met a child, have you?


You've never met an adult, have you? They frequently do exactly the same thing under the same circumstances, but generally don't get punished for it.
 
2013-12-26 01:32:38 PM

aevorea: Classes after her exit were markedly more relaxed and productive.


How loud was she in the bathroom that it distracted you in the classroom? Or are you simultaneously complaining about both her presence and her absence?
 
2013-12-26 03:44:09 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: I have never understood the asking permission to go to the bathroom thing. Would people prefer a child shiat on the floor?


It's important to know where your students are. If you have students out of the room, you might wait a couple of minutes for them to get back before giving a lengthy and complex explanation, doing a demonstration that can only be done once, or giving critical safety information. Worst-case, if you have students out of the room and don't know it, you might pick up the class and go somewhere else, so the student ends up coming back to an empty room.
 
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