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(ABC Local)   Ric Romero tries out "handheld video game devices" for children so parents know the best one to buy their children, ensuring huge disappointment when they see Santa gave them a Game Boy Color   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 42
    More: Obvious, Game Boy Color, Ric Romero, handheld video game, PS Vita, Legend of Zelda  
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2013-12-25 01:21:46 PM
You gotta get with the times, Ric.

www.superpacman.com
 
2013-12-25 01:22:58 PM
Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?
 
2013-12-25 01:46:26 PM

Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?


They've been significantly cannibalized by it, but the 3DS is doing exceptionally well right now.  (Well, relatively speaking, when compared to the fact that a billion phones are being sold every year.)  Sony's portable gaming division is the one that got shredded.  If you're already familiar with the whole situation, I'll ramble for everyone else's convenience: Long story short, portable video games were always subsidized by the less discerning video game player who was moreso looking for the convenience of games than the quality of games.  Once mobile games started offering that convenience at a marginal price point, the 150-dollar Game Boy and the 30-dollar games stopped looking appealing.  It's been wreaking havoc on the established order of game development, because companies used to be able to use portable offerings as a means to subsidize the louder and more expensive games for the consoles.  Today, when Rovio or King make bank on their games, it isn't subsidizing the lasting works of art.
 
2013-12-25 02:50:40 PM

Mike_LowELL: f you're already familiar with the whole situation, I'll ramble for everyone else's convenience:


Actually I barely play games so I wasn't familar, that was a good summary for me. I have seen $10+ mobile games and wondered who would pay that, then I remember that it's still 1/3 that of a Gameboy game. I just wish micro-transactions weren't so popular.
 
2013-12-25 03:47:01 PM

Mugato: You gotta get with the times, Ric.

[www.superpacman.com image 288x432]


I acquired one of those kind of things for Zaxxon when I was a kid.  I thought it was the greatest thing mankind had ever achieved at the time.
 
2013-12-25 04:01:50 PM

Gig103: Actually I barely play games so I wasn't familar, that was a good summary for me. I have seen $10+ mobile games and wondered who would pay that, then I remember that it's still 1/3 that of a Gameboy game. I just wish micro-transactions weren't so popular.


Even though there's good, valid reasons that you pay a premium for a game, it's become impossibly difficult for people to justify expensive price points when they have so many cheap, high-quality games to fall back on, whether buying classic games through Steam or playing them on emulators for free.  People can talk about retail video games being as cheap as they've ever been, but purchasing power doesn't go nearly as far as it used to.  As far as downloadable content goes, it's a matter of understanding why downloadable content is a bad design philosophy beyond the notion of charging people a higher price point for content which should have already been in the game.  (Designing your content to be interchangeable or non-essential results in content which is exactly that, leading to a weaker game.)  But that requires a good, solid eye for game design, and the mobile game market is predicated on getting as many people as possible to purchase the content in your game, knowledge base be damned, so don't expect any sort of crusade against the practice.
 
2013-12-25 04:02:13 PM

Gig103: I just wish micro-transactions weren't so popular.


They wouldn't be if people would quit paying for them.
 
2013-12-25 05:00:34 PM
They don't want that dead ass Vita.
 
2013-12-25 05:02:25 PM
Used games may possibly cost less.
 
2013-12-25 05:05:20 PM
oi44.tinypic.com

Lawn.  Off.
 
2013-12-25 05:07:48 PM

Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?


No.

Any other questions?
 
2013-12-25 05:15:29 PM

lifeboat: Lawn.  Off.


You and me both. I still have my Matell Football game in storage somewhere.
 
2013-12-25 05:21:45 PM

Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?


There are many good reasons for owning both a handheld game console and a smartphone. And perhaps a tablet as well. And a full-fat console and a computer to play games on as well.
 
2013-12-25 05:32:38 PM
3DS is making more money than the Wii U.
Vita is just PS4 controller that can play games on the go.
 
2013-12-25 05:33:33 PM
& Mobile games depend too much on microtransactions.
 
2013-12-25 05:37:05 PM

lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.


We had this one:


www.handheldmuseum.com

The Head-to-head play was interesting, but usually resulted in ridiculous levels of shaking/wrestling with the game.
 
2013-12-25 05:47:13 PM
I love that he published the article on Dec 24.
 
2013-12-25 05:53:40 PM
The only handheld games I had as a kid wereones like this:
www.handheldmuseum.com

I'm enjoying my android... cheap tablet direct from china (megafeis, in case you want to look them up, I got the 9.7" one, but they have some cool looking PSP ripoff tablets that I thought about getting), plays GTASA very well, great at emulating PSP, Wii, DS, GBA, PS2, etc.
 
2013-12-25 06:01:36 PM
www.donsgamecloset.com
Sharks have. won. the toss. and elect. to receive.
 
2013-12-25 06:05:22 PM
Ric Romero is on the scene!

www.geekvintage.com
 
2013-12-25 06:11:48 PM
Next up, Console game reviews:
insertcredit.com
 
2013-12-25 06:49:46 PM

lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

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Mattel Football, holy crap!

1) Wait at edge of screen for the defenders to reposition themselves
2) Scroll over
3) If defenders at other end of screen, wait at top or bottom for them to slowly come after you
4) Dash through gap to end of screen
5) Goto 1

Gaming nirvana at the time.  Also, gimme five bees for a quarter.
 
2013-12-25 07:13:17 PM

Relatively Obscure: lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.

We had this one:


[www.handheldmuseum.com image 640x267]

The Head-to-head play was interesting, but usually resulted in ridiculous levels of shaking/wrestling with the game.


Best Football ever...

www.empire-of-the-claw.com
 
2013-12-25 07:30:34 PM

Harry_Seldon: Relatively Obscure: lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.

We had this one:


[www.handheldmuseum.com image 640x267]

The Head-to-head play was interesting, but usually resulted in ridiculous levels of shaking/wrestling with the game.

Best Football ever...

[www.empire-of-the-claw.com image 800x600]



image.allmusic.com
 
2013-12-25 07:46:56 PM

Smackledorfer: Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?

No.

Any other questions?


Yes they are... my two children are growing up with tablets in the house and we have had a Wii since before one of them was born. Haven't bought a Wii game in years, but, apps for the tablet are purchased all the time.

I have no questions, only answers.
 
2013-12-25 08:04:05 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Harry_Seldon: Relatively Obscure: lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.

We had this one:


[www.handheldmuseum.com image 640x267]

The Head-to-head play was interesting, but usually resulted in ridiculous levels of shaking/wrestling with the game.

Best Football ever...

[www.empire-of-the-claw.com image 800x600]


[image.allmusic.com image 300x281]


Awesome.  I worked at a restaurant that had that game.  Loved it.
 
2013-12-25 08:17:12 PM

trey101: Smackledorfer: Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?

No.

Any other questions?

Yes they are... my two children are growing up with tablets in the house and we have had a Wii since before one of them was born. Haven't bought a Wii game in years, but, apps for the tablet are purchased all the time.

I have no questions, only answers.


Your anecdotes mean jack shiat.

If they did though, why would your wii ownership mean a thing? Is it portable now? Mine still isn't.

Tablet apps sell big and make a shiatload. I don't think anyone arguing that portable gaming devices which aren't tablets will still sell disagree with that.

It is almost like the gaming market supports multiple platforms. Next you'll tell me the pc has been replaced and is a relic.
 
2013-12-25 08:22:03 PM

trey101: Smackledorfer: Gig103: Aren't mobile gaming platforms being replaced by smartphones and tablets?

No.

Any other questions?

Yes they are... my two children are growing up with tablets in the house and we have had a Wii since before one of them was born. Haven't bought a Wii game in years, but, apps for the tablet are purchased all the time.

I have no questions, only answers.


your kids are really, really missing out then
 
2013-12-25 08:49:14 PM
I love my game boy color, Tetris still rocks. I do wish the screen were backlit though.
 
2013-12-25 09:11:47 PM
Anybody else old enough to ask your parents for the new Mattel Electronic Football game for Christmas when they first came out, and waking up Christmas morning all excited and expecting one of these:

www.engadget.com

... and being thoroughly disappointed with the sheer unbelievable lameness of one of these:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-25 09:16:05 PM
I love my Nintendo 3DS even though I still play a fair number of games on my Android phone.
 
2013-12-25 09:37:01 PM
I own a 3D projection theater hooked up to a bleeding edge gaming PC and all I find myself playing is my [original] Xbox based CoinOps5 emulator; specifically Joust. I freakin love Joust! Can't beat the classics...
 
2013-12-25 10:22:11 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Anybody else old enough to ask your parents for the new Mattel Electronic Football game for Christmas when they first came out, and waking up Christmas morning all excited and expecting one of these:

[www.engadget.com image 166x250]

... and being thoroughly disappointed with the sheer unbelievable lameness of one of these:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x266]


I really hated vibrator football. As a kid, it had so much promise in theory, but it just sucked in reality
 
2013-12-25 10:52:05 PM
We just got my daughter a 3ds for Christmas. She has had to beg for a turn while daddy is "setting it up" all day. And we have both a Nexus 7 and an iPad mini.

There is a time and a place for each device, and the tablets do a lot more, but it is hard to beat the dedicated gaming device for games.
 
2013-12-25 11:46:47 PM

Danger Avoid Death: ... and being thoroughly disappointed with the sheer unbelievable lameness of one of these:


At least that was more interesting than "Pro Foto-Football" my dad and I tried to play a few times as a kid. You had an envelope, an offense card with a jagged and possibly dotted line, and a defense transparency. You'd slip them into the envelope, stick the whole thing on pegs, and then slowly pull the envelope out and the play would unfold. If your jagged line hit a defender spot, that's where the down was. If a defender was over the dotted line (a pass) it was an interception. IIRC there were some other spinners or something for field goals and the like, and special spots for fumbles and such. Can't remember.

At least the buzzy football games involved real motion and lots of noise (which is worth it by itself to a kid).

www.odinartcollectables.com
 
2013-12-26 12:27:02 AM
fc07.deviantart.net
 
2013-12-26 01:38:51 AM

Scoth: Danger Avoid Death: ... and being thoroughly disappointed with the sheer unbelievable lameness of one of these:

At least that was more interesting than "Pro Foto-Football" my dad and I tried to play a few times as a kid. You had an envelope, an offense card with a jagged and possibly dotted line, and a defense transparency. You'd slip them into the envelope, stick the whole thing on pegs, and then slowly pull the envelope out and the play would unfold. If your jagged line hit a defender spot, that's where the down was. If a defender was over the dotted line (a pass) it was an interception. IIRC there were some other spinners or something for field goals and the like, and special spots for fumbles and such. Can't remember.

At least the buzzy football games involved real motion and lots of noise (which is worth it by itself to a kid).


I played my grandpa's vibrating football when I was young. It was a fun toy and one could put other toys on the board. More than enough is there to enjoy with imagination.

That paper game makes battleship seem like the virtual reality game from futurama in the cyclops episode by comparison.
 
2013-12-26 02:48:39 AM

lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.


The Coleco football was better.
 
2013-12-26 05:50:49 AM

unyon: lifeboat: [oi44.tinypic.com image 642x345]

Lawn.  Off.

The Coleco football was better.


Agreed. Six months after the aforementioned Christmas of the lame vibrating football game, I got the Coleco electronic football game for my birthday. My friends all had the Mattel version with only a running game, but with the Coleco version you also had the forward pass. Suddenly the Mattel wasn't the hot toy any more, and everyone wanted the Coleco, all because of this one tiny innovation that, to us kids, made all the difference in the world.

Looking back, it was probably one of the first, if not the first electronic (could little red dots be considered video?) game war between competing companies, a precursor of what's happening with X-Box, Nintendo and PlayStation today.
 
2013-12-26 11:05:46 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Anybody else old enough to ask your parents for the new Mattel Electronic Football game for Christmas when they first came out, and waking up Christmas morning all excited and expecting one of these:

[www.engadget.com image 166x250]

... and being thoroughly disappointed with the sheer unbelievable lameness of one of these:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x266]


I think my memories of that device are fonder than its reality when we actually owned one.
 
2013-12-26 04:39:28 PM
The other thing that no has mentioned is that mobile devices have no universal controller for them.  Although there has been talk of controller add-ons being made, they aren't included with the devices.  Until my iPad comes with a controller shell, there are some types of games I refuse to play on mobile devices.

You may think you would want to play Super Mario Brothers on your iPhone, but you really don't.  Virtual buttons from my experience on mobile games have been overall pretty terrible.  I have an iPad, a 3DS, and a Vita.  I love all of them for different things.  There is something to be said for tangible buttons, and that's something NO ONE talks about.
 
2013-12-26 05:10:47 PM

LisaSimpson: The other thing that no has mentioned is that mobile devices have no universal controller for them.  Although there has been talk of controller add-ons being made, they aren't included with the devices.  Until my iPad comes with a controller shell, there are some types of games I refuse to play on mobile devices.

You may think you would want to play Super Mario Brothers on your iPhone, but you really don't.  Virtual buttons from my experience on mobile games have been overall pretty terrible.  I have an iPad, a 3DS, and a Vita.  I love all of them for different things.  There is something to be said for tangible buttons, and that's something NO ONE talks about.


I haven't used it yet, but my brother bought me a moga a while back.

That type of thing is kind of the answer to your problem, but then again if you are lugging a controller around you can certainly pack a ds.

Further, my ds has huge battery life. My galaxy s2 surely does not. Do I ever want my phone to die because of gaming? Not really.
 
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