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(Opposing Views)   How much jail time does stealing $2.1 million in jewelry get you? Well, that depends. Are you a corporate executive?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 60
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2013-12-25 01:35:00 PM  
To be fair, Tiffany jewelry sells for 100s of percent above the actual value.

I saw a thin silver ring set with a saphire so small you couldn't tell it was blue that would set you back $30 including labor as a custom job from a normal jeweler priced at over $100 used.

So $2.1 million? Probably $30,000 actual value.
 
2013-12-25 02:06:16 PM  
I agree the Markup is very high on diamonds and she is going to have to pay them back.
 
2013-12-25 02:07:03 PM  
corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs
 
2013-12-25 02:08:02 PM  
Affluenza can strike at any time...

The judge found it hard to identify a clear motive for Lederhaas-Okun's repeated thefts, calling her actions "difficult to explain." She and her ex-husband reportedly earned a total of $900,000 annually and lived in a $4 million house in Connecticut, so money clearly wasn't the problem.

Stealing is only wrong if you actually need the money.
 
2013-12-25 02:10:48 PM  
Every time I've bought a diamond for some broad I've always felt like me and the guy who dug it out of the ground got farked over, and all the people in between us earned more money than they deserved. I'm usually uber capitalistic, but the whole jewelry monopoly/scam makes me skeptical
 
2013-12-25 02:10:56 PM  
Funny how there's a thread about an old woman going to the pokey for an unpaid seat belt ticket.  Sometimes this place feels like it's just smacking you in the face with a 20 lb salmon.
 
2013-12-25 02:11:27 PM  
There are many facets to consider here: kleptomania, greed, thrill-seeking, etc. However it's eventually cut, this in absolute clarity: This woman was no gem.
 
2013-12-25 02:12:19 PM  

Apos: There are many facets to consider here: kleptomania, greed, thrill-seeking, etc. However it's eventually cut, this is in absolute clarity: This woman was no gem.


FTFM
 
2013-12-25 02:15:07 PM  
She will get free breakfast.
 
2013-12-25 02:17:08 PM  

nickdaisy: Every time I've bought a diamond for some broad I've always felt like me and the guy who dug it out of the ground got farked over, and all the people in between us earned more money than they deserved. I'm usually uber capitalistic, but the whole jewelry monopoly/scam makes me skeptical


So find a broad who doesn't give a damn about diamonds.  Oh, but one who also likes men who are usually uber capitalistic... eh, you're probably f--ked.

/broad
//does not give a damn about diamonds
///as an accessory anyway, and anyone who bought me one would be admitting they didn't know a damn thing about me
 
2013-12-25 02:22:21 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: nickdaisy: Every time I've bought a diamond for some broad I've always felt like me and the guy who dug it out of the ground got farked over, and all the people in between us earned more money than they deserved. I'm usually uber capitalistic, but the whole jewelry monopoly/scam makes me skeptical

So find a broad who doesn't give a damn about diamonds.  Oh, but one who also likes men who are usually uber capitalistic... eh, you're probably f--ked.

/broad
//does not give a damn about diamonds
///as an accessory anyway, and anyone who bought me one would be admitting they didn't know a damn thing about me


you sound smart. And possibly fat. Two things to avoid in broads
 
2013-12-25 02:22:39 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: /broad
//does not give a damn about diamonds
///as an accessory anyway, and anyone who bought me one would be admitting they didn't know a damn thing about me


I have to have diamonds.

There's no substitute for the cutting/abrasive qualities... although cubic boron nitride gets close.
 
2013-12-25 02:24:32 PM  

stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs


I was surprised. I thought she would get one year probation.
 
2013-12-25 02:24:36 PM  

stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs


Also, violent crime carries harsher sentences.
 
2013-12-25 02:24:49 PM  

stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs


Rob billions from the banking system with a lawyer and a briefcase and completely disrupt the economy and cause people to loose thier jobs? You go to country club prison for a year or two.

Take a pistol and hold up a convienience store? Get sent to PMITA prison for like 20 years and most likely die a slow painfull death from AIDS/HEP C
 
2013-12-25 02:25:12 PM  
FTA: "It was big part of her unhappiness, her inside breaking," insisted the perp's public defender, Sabrina Shroff.

She made $360k a year and needed a public defender?
 
2013-12-25 02:25:19 PM  

stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs


Something tells me you're taking advantage of the holiday to be ridiculously overwrought in your rhetoric.
 
2013-12-25 02:25:21 PM  

nickdaisy: you sound smart. And possibly fat. Two things to avoid in broads


That's sexist. Dames don't like to be called broads.
 
2013-12-25 02:26:23 PM  

LeroyBourne: Funny how there's a thread about an old woman going to the pokey for an unpaid seat belt ticket.  Sometimes this place feels like it's just smacking you in the face with a 20 lb salmon.


Yeah, she spent all of 90 minutes in jail.  I don't know how you can draw a comparison but, clearly, you have your reasons so carry on.
 
2013-12-25 02:27:04 PM  

ElLoco: There's no substitute for the cutting/abrasive qualities... although cubic boron nitride gets close.


As does my ex's singing voice.
 
2013-12-25 02:29:55 PM  

Oldiron_79: stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs

Rob billions from the banking system with a lawyer and a briefcase and completely disrupt the economy and cause people to loose thier jobs? You go to country club prison for a year or two.

Take a pistol and hold up a convienience store? Get sent to PMITA prison for like 20 years and most likely die a slow painfull death from AIDS/HEP C


What good is having elected judges if they don't cover your ass when you get arrested?

/assuming you donated to the winner.
 
2013-12-25 02:33:18 PM  

99.998er: FTA: "It was big part of her unhappiness, her inside breaking," insisted the perp's public defender, Sabrina Shroff.

She made $360k a year and needed a public defender?


She used a Public Pretender? I'm surprised she didn't get the chair.
 
2013-12-25 02:33:31 PM  
Isn't it common knowledge that there is a different justice system for the rich and poor in this country?  If not, it should be.
 
2013-12-25 02:35:14 PM  
i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-25 02:36:17 PM  

Pincy: Isn't it common knowledge that there is a different justice system for the rich and poor in this country?  If not, it should be.


I beleive the correct term is the poors
 
2013-12-25 02:36:25 PM  
She got off light 'cause she's so hot.
 
2013-12-25 02:36:46 PM  

drumhellar: nickdaisy: you sound smart. And possibly fat. Two things to avoid in broads

That's sexist. Dames don't like to be called broads.


are you sure?  In my experience skirts don't much care what you call them as long as you don't interrupt their cooking or ask them to think too much.
 
2013-12-25 02:37:54 PM  

TV's Vinnie:


Thats a Bingo
 
2013-12-25 02:39:14 PM  

dryknife: She got off light 'cause she's so hot.


Damn you for making me click on that link. Oops, I mean Merry Christmas on you for making me click on that link.
 
2013-12-25 02:42:11 PM  

MrHelpful: LeroyBourne: Funny how there's a thread about an old woman going to the pokey for an unpaid seat belt ticket.  Sometimes this place feels like it's just smacking you in the face with a 20 lb salmon.

Yeah, she spent all of 90 minutes in jail.  I don't know how you can draw a comparison but, clearly, you have your reasons so carry on.


Why she was even arrested in the first place was my point.  I bet they cuffed her behind her back because reasons.
/seriously, just send a bill in the mail vs the amount of admin money for the officer, paper work etc, soooo worth it i guess.
 
2013-12-25 02:44:53 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [i44.tinypic.com image 640x797]


The law doth punish man or woman
That steals the goose from off the common,
But lets the greater felon loose
That steals the common from the goose.
 
2013-12-25 02:46:01 PM  

nickdaisy: StreetlightInTheGhetto: nickdaisy: Every time I've bought a diamond for some broad I've always felt like me and the guy who dug it out of the ground got farked over, and all the people in between us earned more money than they deserved. I'm usually uber capitalistic, but the whole jewelry monopoly/scam makes me skeptical

So find a broad who doesn't give a damn about diamonds.  Oh, but one who also likes men who are usually uber capitalistic... eh, you're probably f--ked.

/broad
//does not give a damn about diamonds
///as an accessory anyway, and anyone who bought me one would be admitting they didn't know a damn thing about me

you sound smart. And possibly fat. Two things to avoid in broads


You sound fat - and definitely not smart. Maybe that's why women avoid you?
 
2013-12-25 02:49:10 PM  
here it is:  "she will also have to pay $2.11 million to the government "
 
2013-12-25 02:49:13 PM  
It's the golden rule... he/she who has the gold makes the rules.

In other words ... poor = maximum sentence and rich = slap on the wrist

Also, if Tiffany's is paying their execretives 360k per year, they need their collective heads examined.
 
2013-12-25 02:51:22 PM  

Mortimer14: Also, if Tiffany's is paying their execretives 360k per year, they need their collective heads examined.


By a coroner.
 
2013-12-25 02:58:22 PM  

nickdaisy: drumhellar: nickdaisy: you sound smart. And possibly fat. Two things to avoid in broads

That's sexist. Dames don't like to be called broads.

are you sure?  In my experience skirts don't much care what you call them as long as you don't interrupt their cooking or ask them to think too much.


You're both wrong.  The correct term is "chicks."
 
2013-12-25 03:02:53 PM  
Came here for the alternate link to TFA; leaving disappointed.

/opposing views sucks
 
2013-12-25 03:17:00 PM  
Sentence to prison??

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-12-25 03:20:06 PM  

nickdaisy: Every time I've bought a diamond for some broad I've always felt like me and the guy who dug it out of the ground got farked over, and all the people in between us earned more money than they deserved. I'm usually uber capitalistic, but the whole jewelry monopoly/scam makes me skeptical


You're paying an insane amount of you money (remember, money represents YOUR effort, time, and resource) for something which literally performs absolutely no function. You can't eat that rock. That rock won't make you happy or save your life.

You're the one getting farked over. And you have a shallow, foolish woman. So you get twice farked over. Enjoy! (She should have asked for a new car or entertainment system! That's a keeper!)
 
2013-12-25 03:26:00 PM  
 
2013-12-25 03:41:49 PM  
You want meaningful jewelry for your loved one? Craft it yourself.
 
2013-12-25 03:52:47 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [i44.tinypic.com image 640x797]


Poor dude admitted he was wrong. That's the difference. Rich people are never wrong, you just don't understand them.
 
2013-12-25 03:53:58 PM  

CruJones: stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs

Also, violent crime carries harsher sentences.


So explain the harsh sentences for carrying around a spliff or two.
 
2013-12-25 03:55:41 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [i44.tinypic.com image 640x797]


"Violent crimes carry a much harsher penalty than paperwork crimes."

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-25 03:55:56 PM  

stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr Club Fed
Poor slob =20yrs Regular Prison

 
2013-12-25 04:01:02 PM  

doglover: To be fair, Tiffany jewelry sells for 100s of percent above the actual value.

I saw a thin silver ring set with a saphire so small you couldn't tell it was blue that would set you back $30 including labor as a custom job from a normal jeweler priced at over $100 used.

So $2.1 million? Probably $30,000 actual value.


Irrelevant.

If I stole 2.1 million dollars, I wouldn't see freedom for at least 5 years, and that's being excessively optimistic.
 
2013-12-25 04:01:39 PM  

dericwater: CruJones: stuffy: corporate executive = 1yr
Poor slob =20yrs

Also, violent crime carries harsher sentences.

So explain the harsh sentences for carrying around a spliff or two.


You are supporting the criminals by buying their ill-gotten goods. A dollar from every purchase goes to the education of a neglected Mexican cartel soldier.

Operators are standing by.
 
2013-12-25 04:04:16 PM  

LavenderWolf: doglover: To be fair, Tiffany jewelry sells for 100s of percent above the actual value.

I saw a thin silver ring set with a saphire so small you couldn't tell it was blue that would set you back $30 including labor as a custom job from a normal jeweler priced at over $100 used.

So $2.1 million? Probably $30,000 actual value.

Irrelevant.

If I stole 2.1 million dollars, I wouldn't see freedom for at least 5 years, and that's being excessively optimistic.


If I stole it I would use half to retain an attorney that would have me in rehab if I were to be caught. You need to think like a rich and you won't have to be optimistic.
 
2013-12-25 04:06:37 PM  
Christmas woes of the 0.01%: guilty plea in a $2m jewelry theft, a year in jail, her hedge fund manager husband files for divorce, and their $4.4m house on he market.

Misery? Priceless.
 
2013-12-25 04:11:38 PM  

LavenderWolf: doglover: To be fair, Tiffany jewelry sells for 100s of percent above the actual value.

I saw a thin silver ring set with a saphire so small you couldn't tell it was blue that would set you back $30 including labor as a custom job from a normal jeweler priced at over $100 used.

So $2.1 million? Probably $30,000 actual value.

Irrelevant.

If I stole 2.1 million dollars, I wouldn't see freedom for at least 5 years, and that's being excessively optimistic.


i1.ytimg.com

"Larry H. Parker stole me 2 point 1 million dollars."
 
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