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(UPI)   The price of a first class stamp is going up three cents. A stamp is that small square thing you stick on an envelope to mail a letter. Yes, a letter. You know, what your parents used to use before email and texting. Still not ringing any bells?   (upi.com) divider line 92
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2013-12-25 11:42:27 AM
I just bought some stamps so I'll be getting a kick out of some of these posts...
 
2013-12-25 11:42:40 AM
As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers
 
2013-12-25 11:43:21 AM
Do they still deliver on Saturdays in the US?

Because nobody's using the postal service in Canada they've decided to stop door-to-door delivery and raise the price of a stamp to $1.
 
2013-12-25 11:45:21 AM
Price of a stamp in Canada is supposed to go up a full 45% soon, and they're looking to drop door to door delivery outright. I sympathize, but not very much.
 
2013-12-25 11:45:23 AM

phillydrifter: I just bought some stamps so I'll be getting a kick out of some of these posts...


The postal service makes some very pretty stamps. But you usually have to ask for them special. I like putting pretty stamps on my rare snail mail. And I like to support the post office.
 
2013-12-25 11:46:36 AM

whatshisname: Do they still deliver on Saturdays in the US?

Because nobody's using the postal service in Canada they've decided to stop door-to-door delivery and raise the price of a stamp to $1.


They would love to stop Saturday delivery and raise stamps in the same manner. The problem is our Congress already has passed one toxic bill to destroy the post office, and is refusing to allow any such changes to keep it alive.
 
2013-12-25 11:46:59 AM
Still the best deal going. Look inside a postal truck and you'll see there's no shortage of people and businesses using the postal service. Online selling has been a big boost, not everybody uses UPS or FedEx.
 
2013-12-25 11:48:14 AM

whatshisname: Because nobody's using the postal service in Canada they've decided to stop door-to-door delivery and raise the price of a stamp to $1.


I'll just add that the corrective action here, obviously, is to make snail mail slower, less convenient, and far more expensive. That'll definitely re-attract customers.
 
2013-12-25 11:49:33 AM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


Why are you shipping MP3?
 
2013-12-25 11:49:45 AM
Stupid.

Raise it to 50¢.

And the next time, raise it to 75¢.

Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.
 
2013-12-25 11:50:57 AM
"temporary, lasting "just long enough to cover the loss,"

LOL
 
2013-12-25 11:53:16 AM
Fun fact: once a technology is deemed 'obsolete', all memory of its existence vanishes from the earth and the minds of the entire human race.

/buggy whips
//buggy whips
///GODDAMN BUGGY WHIPS
 
2013-12-25 11:54:03 AM

DarkVader: Stupid.
Raise it to 50¢.
And the next time, raise it to 75¢.
Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.


I snarked in one thread that Congress had passed laws so that the post office could only raise stamp prices in "embarrassingly small increments" but it wouldn't surprise me.......
 
2013-12-25 11:57:11 AM
They are called forever stamps because that's how long it takes to get your mail.
 
2013-12-25 11:58:16 AM
Email is still letters.

I mean, who says "I sent an email"? Do you also say, "I sent a mail" when you use[d] the USPS?
 
2013-12-25 11:58:43 AM
I wish they would raise it to $50. The only people I know of who send postal mail are spam warehouses who think I do something with snailmail other than put it unopened into the recycle bin.

Seriously, do you even know anyone who's mailed a (non-spam) dead-tree letter in the last decade?
 
2013-12-25 12:00:44 PM

cryinoutloud: DarkVader: Stupid.
Raise it to 50¢.
And the next time, raise it to 75¢.
Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.

I snarked in one thread that Congress had passed laws so that the post office could only raise stamp prices in "embarrassingly small increments" but it wouldn't surprise me.......


They're going to start taxing emails soon! Google "Congressional Bill 602P".
 
2013-12-25 12:01:28 PM
And what's with the first class, anyways?  Why would a stamp need a bigger seat and free drinks?
 
2013-12-25 12:03:15 PM
From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?

/ Knows too many people who repeated got 'double-dipped' by their creditors.
 
2013-12-25 12:06:00 PM
The price increase is pay for management bonuses nothing more.

Same thing happened in Canada. They lost 100 million dollars. They begged the goverment for a handout. Then gave themselves a nice bonus to "retain talent". My question is if they are bankrupting the company, how talented could they possibly be?
 
2013-12-25 12:06:00 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Email is still letters.

I mean, who says "I sent an email"? Do you also say, "I sent a mail" when you use[d] the USPS?


I sent you an email. I emailed it to you.
I sent you a letter. I mailed it to you.

/get of my lawn
 
2013-12-25 12:06:22 PM

Archimedes' Principal: From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?

/ Knows too many people who repeated got 'double-dipped' by their creditors.


Pretty sure most people do it with a credit card.
 
2013-12-25 12:06:26 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fun fact: once a technology is deemed 'obsolete', all memory of its existence vanishes from the earth and the minds of the entire human race.

/buggy whips
//buggy whips
///GODDAMN BUGGY WHIPS


Sure - but can you seal a clacks with a kiss?
 
2013-12-25 12:06:36 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fun fact: once a technology is deemed 'obsolete', all memory of its existence vanishes from the earth and the minds of the entire human race.


Either that or submitter is a retard.
 
2013-12-25 12:07:41 PM

Archimedes' Principal: From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?



No, they email me the bill and I pay it via online banking.
 
2013-12-25 12:08:09 PM

Great_Milenko: ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers

Why are you shipping MP3?


we tape iPods to records. You know, for the convenience
 
2013-12-25 12:08:35 PM

DarkVader: Stupid.

Raise it to 50¢.

And the next time, raise it to 75¢.

Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.


Amazon has cut a deal with the USPS to do exactly that. Do it in the first place, not bring it back, since there never was Sunday delivery before. However, in olden times there were two mail deliveries a day. One Leave It To Beaver episode has Beaver waiting for "the second mail".
 
2013-12-25 12:08:38 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Email is still letters.

I mean, who says "I sent an email"? Do you also say, "I sent a mail" when you use[d] the USPS?


I say, "I sent an email".

You may be confused because, used as a noun, "mail" only refers to multiple messages, but "email" can refer to a single message or a group of messages.

"I sent mail." -> ok
"I sent a mail." -> no
"I sent email." -> ok
"I sent an email." -> ok

If you want to complain that this is an irregular formation, you are going to find a lot to complain about in the English language.
 
2013-12-25 12:08:50 PM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


They just increased the freight rate on the steamships I use to ship quill pens and wagon wheels to the colonies.  It's really biting into my profits.
 
2013-12-25 12:10:13 PM
Last week I had to order documents from my condo association in order to refinance, and it was cheaper to mail them a check than to pay a convenience fee and use a credit card.  So I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-12-25 12:10:16 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: /buggy whips
//buggy whips
///GODDAMN BUGGY WHIPS


Oooh...talking naughty on this Christmas morning...
 
2013-12-25 12:11:09 PM
I still buy stamps, otherwise my bills won't reach their destinations.
 
2013-12-25 12:11:44 PM

SurelyShirley: Pants full of macaroni!!: /buggy whips
//buggy whips
///GODDAMN BUGGY WHIPS

Oooh...talking naughty on this Christmas morning...


It's naughtier when the mailman is involved.
 
2013-12-25 12:11:53 PM

ModernPrimitive01: Great_Milenko: ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers

Why are you shipping MP3?

we tape iPods to records. You know, for the convenience


You would save money if you just chose one or the other to ship, not just attach both of them together and send them off.
 
2013-12-25 12:12:29 PM

ChrisDe: Still the best deal going. Look inside a postal truck and you'll see there's no shortage of people and businesses using the postal service. Online selling has been a big boost, not everybody uses UPS or FedEx.


Nods. And, if they're doing Sunday delivery now for Amazon.

If they have to stop delivery one day, it should be a weekday. Saturday is the only day people can sign for packages or go to the Post Office.
 
2013-12-25 12:14:32 PM

jjorsett: DarkVader: Stupid.

Raise it to 50¢.

And the next time, raise it to 75¢.

Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.

Amazon has cut a deal with the USPS to do exactly that. Do it in the first place, not bring it back, since there never was Sunday delivery before. However, in olden times there were two mail deliveries a day. One Leave It To Beaver episode has Beaver waiting for "the second mail".


Originally entitled 'Beaver Waits For The Second Male', that episode caused a shiatstorm.
 
2013-12-25 12:15:20 PM
I'm glad I bought a lifetime supply of Forever Stamps some years back and also shifted to paying all my bills electronically. At my current rate of stamp consumption  my estate will make a tidy profit when it unloads those dudes.
 
2013-12-25 12:16:44 PM
ITT:
People who in the course of their lives and/or business don't have to use the USPS, so therefore ipso facto it is never used by anyone else for any reason unless they're 99 years old or idiots and therefore braying out 'buggy whips!' is the pinnacle of humor.
 
2013-12-25 12:17:34 PM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


Music is WORTHLESS.
 
2013-12-25 12:18:13 PM
/Though the S&M mailman concept is funny I'll admit.
//Slow refresh.
//More coffee.
 
2013-12-25 12:18:16 PM
I agree that people rarely write letters any longer.  But a lot of people still like the more personal touch when it comes to holiday and birthday cards.  It's hard to attach a check or cash or a gift card to an email.  Especially when it's for my little nieces and nephews who aren't online yet.  I'd gladly pay a dollar for a stamp that I can put on a card, drop the card in my mailbox, and within 3-4 days it shows up in the mailbox of anyone in the country.
 
2013-12-25 12:20:56 PM

fisker: ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers

Music is WORTHLESS.


I would being tone deaf would be akin to seeing the world in greyscale and wondering why everyone won't shut up about colors.

How sad for you.
 
2013-12-25 12:21:33 PM
shiat.  Coffee.
I would IMAGINE being tone deaf... etc.
I'm stopping while I'm behind.
 
2013-12-25 12:26:20 PM
i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-25 12:27:59 PM
Got to pay the pensions on the gubmint employee's not delivering the mail.
 
2013-12-25 12:33:23 PM

Speef: I wish they would raise it to $50. The only people I know of who send postal mail are spam warehouses who think I do something with snailmail other than put it unopened into the recycle bin.

Seriously, do you even know anyone who's mailed a (non-spam) dead-tree letter in the last decade?


So, you don't get any bills via postal mail?

Until we moved last February we paid our apartment rent by mailing it to the property management's post office box. It was the only option given to all the tenants. And we opted to pay our natural gas bill at that locale by check because the company outsourced their billing & you were charged $3.50 on top of your bill if you wanted to pay online.

We also receive packages via USPS priority mail, in addtion to deliveries from UPS & FedEx.
 
2013-12-25 12:40:37 PM

Mean Daddy: Got to pay the pensions on the gubmint employee's not delivering the mail.


Yeah. Seventy five years in advance, as officially mandated by GOP Congresscritters.
 
2013-12-25 12:49:30 PM

jj325: I agree that people rarely write letters any longer.  But a lot of people still like the more personal touch when it comes to holiday and birthday cards.  It's hard to attach a check or cash or a gift card to an email.  Especially when it's for my little nieces and nephews who aren't online yet.  I'd gladly pay a dollar for a stamp that I can put on a card, drop the card in my mailbox, and within 3-4 days it shows up in the mailbox of anyone in the country.


This. We mail several cards a week (birthday, condolences, congratulations, etc).

We also mail our bill payments. Tried that our credit union's bill payment system and found it unreliable. Some payments are on auto-pay via a debit card, but those are pains in the arses when the card expires.

Lastly, we're small business owners and our monthly postage expenses are pretty hefty. Not shipping, just postage.

With all that said, I think the small price of postage in the US is well worth the service. Most items we mail are delivered the next day. Even some in other states. Not a bad deal.
 
2013-12-25 12:52:25 PM
Just bought a bunch of $1.10 Forever stamps since I send more mail back to Japan than domestically.

New Years cards wiped me out this year.
 
2013-12-25 12:54:10 PM

MutantMotherMouse: Lastly, we're small business owners and our monthly postage expenses are pretty hefty. Not shipping, just postage.


Stamps.com.

Use the promo code (your favorite podcast here) to give them a little quid pro quo.
 
2013-12-25 01:09:00 PM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


They can always switch to UPS at 3X the price.
 
2013-12-25 01:10:13 PM
Stamls are what I buy in books, large and small and still can never find when I need one.
 
2013-12-25 01:10:32 PM

Speef: I wish they would raise it to $50. The only people I know of who send postal mail are spam warehouses who think I do something with snailmail other than put it unopened into the recycle bin.

Seriously, do you even know anyone who's mailed a (non-spam) dead-tree letter in the last decade?


Well, yes actually. Although we use e-mail (etc) for most stuff, It's still nice to mail (and get) cards for birthdays, Xmas, sympathy, get well, etc. I guarantee that if you send your grandma an actual card on her birthday you'll be her favorite.
 
2013-12-25 01:17:47 PM
Another 3 cents? What are we up to now tree fiddy?
 
2013-12-25 01:28:15 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Email is still letters.

I mean, who says "I sent an email"? Do you also say, "I sent a mail" when you use[d] the USPS?


img.photobucket.com

The only person I know of who refers to emails as letters.
 
2013-12-25 01:39:59 PM
The only times I mail anything first class are

1. holiday cards (~50 each year); and
2. sending photos of the crotchfruit to family members.

I send lots of packages, though, but otherwise all communication is electronic.
 
2013-12-25 01:42:45 PM

Archimedes' Principal: From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?

/ Knows too many people who repeated got 'double-dipped' by their creditors.



We do electronic one-time payments (nothing recurrent) or pay using American Express.  No one has permission to automatically deduct anything from our checking or money market accounts.   We've never had any "double-dipping" issues.
 
2013-12-25 01:44:51 PM
For all the hipster hate, I still send and receive a lot of mail that could not possibly be sent by email, or excuse me, I forgot, email is buggy whips, hipster text.
 
2013-12-25 01:51:16 PM
Most bills here are paid online though we have a couple that go out as checks because its easier for the people receiving them.  Saved about $80 in postage a year by doing that.

We don't do autopay though...mistakes happen and you are out the money while they take their sweet time investigating and returning it.  I pay when I say I pay.  If you're a chronic late payer and rack up late fees, maybe its worth doing autopay.

Other uses of the postal service for business are thank you cards, reminder cards etc.  These gather more mindshare than yet another email in the box.
 
2013-12-25 01:51:28 PM

cryinoutloud: DarkVader: Stupid.
Raise it to 50¢.
And the next time, raise it to 75¢.
Stop it with the stupid penny increases.  And bring back Sunday delivery.

I snarked in one thread that Congress had passed laws so that the post office could only raise stamp prices in "embarrassingly small increments" but it wouldn't surprise me.......


Actually, that's pretty close to the truth. The post office is only allowed to raise the price of a stamp commiserate with costs; no more, no less. It is tecnically illegal for them to make a profit.

Something I beleive would solve both these problems at once: allow the post office to make a profit, but require these profits to be placed in the retirement fund. Easy cheesy pleasey.
 
2013-12-25 02:03:48 PM
Sim Tree
Actually, that's pretty close to the truth. The post office is only allowed to raise the price of a stamp commiserate with costs; no more, no less. It is tecnically illegal for them to make a profit.
Something I beleive would solve both these problems at once: allow the post office to make a profit, but require these profits to be placed in the retirement fund. Easy cheesy pleasey.


Watch out for the law of unintended consequences. Because retirement funds are always safe if something happens to the organization.
 
2013-12-25 02:05:42 PM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


If they are passing on the small increase to customers by bumping up their shipping fees a little bit, how is that killing them? It doesn't hit the bottom line, and I don't see music aficionados passing on buying an album they really want on vinyl because they had to pay 50 cents more in shipping costs. Also, since every company has to pay the same higher rates, it doesn't give one company an advantage over another.
 
2013-12-25 02:15:47 PM

entitygm: whatshisname: Do they still deliver on Saturdays in the US?

Because nobody's using the postal service in Canada they've decided to stop door-to-door delivery and raise the price of a stamp to $1.

They would love to stop Saturday delivery and raise stamps in the same manner. The problem is our Congress already has passed one toxic bill to destroy the post office, and is refusing to allow any such changes to keep it alive.


THIS.
 
2013-12-25 02:18:40 PM
"She predicted "just long enough" would be close to two years."

Isn't that about three increases?
 
2013-12-25 02:23:51 PM
I like 'real' mail for letters and all, but I do use email a lot.

"Real mail' used to be an art. Carefully hand written on various forms and grades of paper, sometimes scented. Often the penmanship was beautiful -- as the older generations learned to write in excellent script.

By the 60's, there was less emphasis on the quality and more on the quantity. Plus, typewriters were common and cheaper. Around the 70's, you started seeing hand printed letters, because most people realized their script sucked and tended to look like a scrawl.

I dimly recall the Government doing something with the USPS in the 70s that separated it to a large percent from being directly a government operation. I think they subcontracted it out mostly yet still extended government authority over it.

However, things changed. The very strict rules concerning uniform and dress codes relaxed. Postmen previously needed to have sharp creases in their pants, leather, well polished shoes, the military-like caps with the hard, shiny black brim and their badge pinned to it. All had to be clean shaven and their hair had to be only a certain length. Plus, within a year or so, costs went up.

The USPS always runs in the red because the government requires that any profit they make gets sent to the government. It's kind of hard to function as an efficient business when someone is always siphoning off your 'excess profits'.

Post offices were different. Most had 'secret' doors outside that the Postal Inspector used. He would arrive unannounced, go in the door which opened only with his key and move through hidden passages which allowed him to inspect the workers below without being seen.

He would then report on uniform violations, mishandling of the mail, efficiency, theft and other stuff. He often would leave without anyone knowing he had been there.

I recall the overhead passages with narrow, dark slots every so many feet above the main floor of the post office. The slots were designed to not let anyone see the Inspector looking out.

Until that unfortunate episode in the 70's when a postal employee went nuts and shot up his station (which created the phrase 'going postal) postmen were considered respected, friendly folks and you didn't f**k with them because they carried 'The Mail' and messing with that could bring the wrath of the Government down on you.

Aside from Junk Mail, it was always a pleasure to receive letters from friends, which could be handle, read and re-read, touching the ink on the pages placed their with their own hands would bring you closer to loved ones if you were far away.

During the Vietnam War, it wasn't unusual for the wives and girlfriends of soldiers to slip a perfumed pair of their best panties in the envelope and send it. Lovers would wipe a bit of their favorite scent on pages for their guy. Men might include pressed flowers. Photographs were a common item included.

Sometimes, paper used that had been stored in a home carried the scent of home, from cooking meals to aromatic pipe smoke, lightly infused in the fibers.

Kids sent crayon drawings and pictures in colored pencils. Pen Pals was a thing and you knew when you got a letter because they used special, light weight, international envelopes marked around the edges in red. Stamp collectors loved getting the strange and foreign stamps affixed to the paper and many eagerly read the postmark stamped at the top.

Your Great-grandparents and maybe your grandparents saved letters from loved ones, usually wrapped in ribbon in a stack and secured in an old cigar box or hidden in special places in an attic.

Hand written letters connected you with friends and family from far away and many were several pages long as folks caught up on gossip. Plus, there in your hands, in the ink and in the form of the script, was the actual trace of someone you cared about.

You knew their hands had touched those pages. For many a soldier during war, he knew his loved one carefully wrote each letter in ink, recognizing her style, her selection of ink and, occasionally, putting on lipstick to seal the letter with a kiss on the last page with her name.

Today, you get a letter on your screen. Cold. Impersonal. You can't touch the 'soul' of the letter, even if you print it out. You need a scanner to send a .jpeg of a kiss and what arrives is a sterile copy. Her lips never actually touched what you print out.

Postmen aren't as cool as before. Many sport beards. Many have long hair. Most with walking routes wear sneakers, sport pot guts, their uniforms can look sloppy. Assorted rights groups stopped the secret inspections and new Post Offices no longer have the hidden passages. The postman is no longer respected the way he used to be and many look like they're p*$$ed at the world.

Pen Pals send you email, avoiding the stamps, the post marks, the special papers and the simple fact that they actually handled the paper. It arrives in seconds, locked behind the glass or plastic of your screen and may include electronic photographs or video.

Instead of printing them out, you store thme in an electronic file. Maybe you'll download them to disk or flash drive or whatever and drop them in a box but 100 years from now, the operating system might not be able to read their code.

A hand written letter and be handled and read hundreds of years from now.

Plus, you have thousands of fonts to choose from, many quite nice -- but even if printed out from your printer, you know the one you cared for did not labor long to form each letter with love.

He or she just adjusted the settings.

Most signatures are printed. Very few are even hand written even if you have the ability to so do on your email.

Try sticking a pair of panties from home in an email that your man, fighting for his life in some dirt nation, can actually touch and think of you.

Email just doesn't equal the emotional impact of a hand written letter.

BTW. My Dad was a postman up until his death in the early 70s. He was proud of it and looked good in his uniform. He was a motor carrier and loved his job and his customers. Today, I have his hat and his badge.
 
2013-12-25 02:24:27 PM
A paper letter is a good way to get results out of an elected official, specially if you take down the address of 20 to 30 of them, and mail the letters all at once.

Demands action, shakes things up.
 
2013-12-25 02:40:03 PM
Yup, real good idea. "Hey, business is stagnant and our costs are soaring, what should we do?" "I know, let's make the service more expensive."
 
2013-12-25 02:57:29 PM

Enemabag Jones: Watch out for the law of unintended consequences. Because retirement funds are always safe if something happens to the organization.


Social Security rings a bell.

And you know what happens every time a bell rings, right?

Merry Xmas everyone!
 
2013-12-25 03:21:40 PM

cryinoutloud: The postal service makes some very pretty stamps. But you usually have to ask for them special. I like putting pretty stamps on my rare snail mail. And I like to support the post office.


If you order stamps on USPS.com they charge you shipping. It seems wrong, but it is the only way to get nice stamps. At least the special designs are finally being made as "forever" stamps.

I don't mind the price hike for as little as I mail, since I think the USPS is a vital service (so did the Framers), although Congress just needs to fix their stupid pension law.
 
2013-12-25 03:25:46 PM

Rik01: A hand written letter and be handled and read hundreds of years from now.


My wife worked on a digitization effort for Villanova, of General Sherman Thackara's personal letters. Here is a sample of his daughter's letter to Santa (seemed a fitting example today)

http://digital.library.villanova.edu/Item/vudl:31122

We won't have anything like that from our generation. I'm a computer engineer and not a historian so I'm not sure how I feel about this.
 
2013-12-25 04:06:05 PM
You see, "bells" are these things people used to use in order to make noise at one-another; in fact, some ancient ringtones for phones use bell simulations.
 
2013-12-25 04:13:15 PM

whatshisname: Do they still deliver on Saturdays in the US?

Because nobody's using the postal service in Canada they've decided to stop door-to-door delivery and raise the price of a stamp to $1.


This is a fail.   You cant just let people go down to the post office once a month to get mail.  You will lose out on 90% of your direct marketing sales.
 
2013-12-25 04:17:33 PM

Gig103: cryinoutloud: The postal service makes some very pretty stamps. But you usually have to ask for them special. I like putting pretty stamps on my rare snail mail. And I like to support the post office.

If you order stamps on USPS.com they charge you shipping. It seems wrong, but it is the only way to get nice stamps. At least the special designs are finally being made as "forever" stamps.

I don't mind the price hike for as little as I mail, since I think the USPS is a vital service (so did the Framers), although Congress just needs to fix their stupid pension law.


Do other non government companies get to pretend they will have income in the future to put in the pension fund, or do they actually have to put money in?


Due to the speed at which people are abandoning sending letters, there is nothing wrong with *not* giving the PO 30 years to contribute.
 
2013-12-25 04:43:58 PM

ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers


Not according to liberal think.   The post office employees will buy more music because they have  more money, and that means more money for your bands.   Band income goes up, not down.

Money left over after paying expenses is just crazy talk.....
 
2013-12-25 04:50:23 PM

Archimedes' Principal: From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?

/ Knows too many people who repeated got 'double-dipped' by their creditors.


Get email with bill.
Log in to bank site.
Move $123.50 from my savings account to my checking account.
Log in to Water authority.
Pay bill online from checking account.

Go ahead and try to double dip.
 
2013-12-25 04:59:12 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Archimedes' Principal: From the comments here, I get the impression that a lot of you don't pay your utility bills and such by mail. Are you allowing your creditors direct access to your checking accounts?

/ Knows too many people who repeated got 'double-dipped' by their creditors.

Get email with bill.
Log in to bank site.
Move $123.50 from my savings account to my checking account.
Log in to Water authority.
Pay bill online from checking account.

Go ahead and try to double dip.


I don't even log in to the utility's website.
Get Bill
Log in to bank site
Select "Electric" or "City" utilities ("City" includes gas where I live)
Enter amount
Funds are transferred from bank to utility

Always push money to the payee, never let them pull it.
 
2013-12-25 05:04:59 PM

anfrind: Last week I had to order documents from my condo association in order to refinance, and it was cheaper to mail them a check than to pay a convenience fee and use a credit card.  So I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.


That's like the banks.  First, it was charge you a fee for using the ATM because it is expensive.
Then it became 'charge you a fee to use the teller' because people weren't using the ATM.

The fee is just a way to charge you 5% more for your bill, without seeming like you are the one ripping them off.
 
2013-12-25 05:08:50 PM
 
2013-12-25 05:10:17 PM
The hike, raising a first-class stamp to 49 cents from 46 cents, starts Jan. 26 but is temporary, lasting "just long enough to recover the loss,"


So temporary like the income tax.
 
2013-12-25 05:19:12 PM
About damn time.

Can we charge congresspeople triple for screwing over the post office for their fiends in the private sector?
 
2013-12-25 05:48:59 PM

geoduck42: Mean Daddy: Got to pay the pensions on the gubmint employee's not delivering the mail.

Yeah. Seventy five years in advance, as officially mandated by GOP Congresscritters.


the law only requires pre-funding of obligations to actual current and past employees

just because you keep saying "75 years funding of people not born yet", doesn't make it true.
 
2013-12-25 05:49:54 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: About damn time.

Can we charge congresspeople triple for screwing over the post office for their fiends in the private sector?


Their friends in the private sector are actually funding their pensions.
 
2013-12-25 05:52:06 PM

Thelyphthoric: fisker: ModernPrimitive01: As long as packages don't go up again I'm fine with this. Shipping increases kill the small music labels I work with because they have to pass that onto customers

Music is WORTHLESS.

I would being tone deaf would be akin to seeing the world in greyscale and wondering why everyone won't shut up about colors.

How sad for you.


Oh my God. Suddenly I like music again.

Thank you for this.
 
2013-12-25 05:53:03 PM

Mad_Radhu: If they are passing on the small increase to customers by bumping up their shipping fees a little bit, how is that killing them? It doesn't hit the bottom line,


I see you got an A in economics.
 
2013-12-25 05:56:11 PM

cryinoutloud: phillydrifter: I just bought some stamps so I'll be getting a kick out of some of these posts...

The postal service makes some very pretty stamps. But you usually have to ask for them special. I like putting pretty stamps on my rare snail mail. And I like to support the post office.


???

Oh.  OH!  That place I have to go to pick up a 4 inch by 6 inch package containing 6 special-order machine screws because they felt it was necessary to send out a courier to put a message in my mailbox instead of...you know...putting the package itself in there.
 
2013-12-25 06:37:54 PM

Nutsac_Jim: geoduck42: Mean Daddy: Got to pay the pensions on the gubmint employee's not delivering the mail.

Yeah. Seventy five years in advance, as officially mandated by GOP Congresscritters.

the law only requires pre-funding of obligations to actual current and past employees

just because you keep saying "75 years funding of people not born yet", doesn't make it true.


IIRC, the pre-funding was related to health care obligations pertaining to retirees and not pensions of retirees.

I think the service the USPS provides is well worth twice the price.
 
2013-12-25 07:05:17 PM
Things still sent via post:

Driver's license
i651.photobucket.com

Voter Registration Card
i651.photobucket.com

Anything and everything rural
i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-25 07:05:23 PM
People still use the post office for something other than Netflix?
 
2013-12-25 08:29:52 PM

phillydrifter: I just bought some stamps so I'll be getting a kick out of some of these posts...


got a roll of forever stamps a week ago. good for a year or more.

ChrisDe: Online selling has been a big boost, not everybody uses UPS or FedEx.


certainly not for small stuff. i buy in the far east occasionally and the stuff shows up in a week or two USPS no problem. and no charge for shipping. even US companies ship USB cables and stuff like that USPS and the delivery is quick and cheap.
 
2013-12-25 09:03:07 PM

Speef: I wish they would raise it to $50. The only people I know of who send postal mail are spam warehouses who think I do something with snailmail other than put it unopened into the recycle bin.

Seriously, do you even know anyone who's mailed a (non-spam) dead-tree letter in the last decade?


There's a woman who keeps sending hand-written letters to people in our apartment complex. She wants us to meet her for her Bible group. So maybe she's buying all the stamps?
 
2013-12-26 01:43:27 AM
really?  almost a hundred posts in and no Benjamin Franklin, Boobiesmaster General of the USPS?
 
2013-12-26 02:38:49 AM
Rik01 2013-12-25 02:23:51 PM

I like 'real' mail for letters and all, but I do use email a lot.

"Real mail' used to be an art. Carefully hand written on various forms and grades of paper, sometimes scented. Often the penmanship was beautiful -- as the older generations learned to write in excellent script....Kids sent crayon drawings and pictures in colored pencils. Pen Pals was a thing and you knew when you got a letter because they used special, light weight, international envelopes marked around the edges in red. Stamp collectors loved getting the strange and foreign stamps affixed to the paper and many eagerly read the postmark stamped at the top.

Your Great-grandparents and maybe your grandparents saved letters from loved ones, usually wrapped in ribbon in a stack and secured in an old cigar box or hidden in special places in an attic.

Hand written letters connected you with friends and family from far away and many were several pages long as folks caught up on gossip. Plus, there in your hands, in the ink and in the form of the script, was the actual trace of someone you cared about....


Rik, I always enjoy your posts. You have a finely tuned wit and a certain melancholy poetry.

You are in fact in my Blue Farky List, which is very hard to attain.

Don't ever stop posting.
 
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