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(CNN)   Folks, we've identified Patient Zero in the War on Christmas -- Abraham Lincoln   ( divider line
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2013-12-24 12:22:39 PM  
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Fireproof: Darth_Lukecash: Good history except for one part, Lincoln never grew out of his atheist phase.

Wiki says that debate is most definitely not settled.

The two books quoted were from a Christian standpoint.

His speeches were just that- political speeches.

And him going to church with his wife after two of their kids died was probably to support his wife, who suffered from a heavy depression. Again, he never joined a church. Nor is there any mention of being Baptized-which is very important in Christian belief.

But Lincoln lost an election due to perceived hostility to Christendom, Linvpcoln being the master politician.

As Carl Sandburg recounts in Abraham Lincoln: The Prairie Years, Lincoln attended one of Cartwright's revival meetings. At the conclusion of the service, the fiery pulpiteer called for all who intended to go to heaven to rise. Naturally, the response was heartening. Then he called for all those who wished to go to hell to stand, unsurprisingly there were not many takers. Lincoln had responded to neither option. Cartwright closed in. "Mr. Lincoln, you have not expressed an interest in going to either heaven or hell. May I enquire as to where you do plan to go?" Lincoln replied: "I did not come here with the idea of being singled out, but since you ask, I will reply with equal candor. I intend to go to Congress."[

If he spoke religiously in a speech, it was to make a point. If he invoked God, it was meant to inspire.

Lincoln was the first Americans to hear about Darwinism, and the among the first to talk about it positively. Strangely enough, Lincoln rarely spoke about religion with others.
2013-12-24 11:37:08 AM  
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Waldo Pepper: Hoban Washburne: Truthfully I've never understood why Easter isn't the big party day for Christians.

It used to be. I think it may be the bigger one in Latin America. Christmas wasn't even that big of a deal until the late 19th century. The early Church didn't even recognize it as one of the major Christian holidays.

I've been trying to be less cynical lately, commercialism is the only reason I can think of as to why it's bigger.
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