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(Ultimate Classic Rock)   Ace Frehley lays down the makeup rules for any KISS reunion at next year's Hall of Fame show, says he has to be the only one in costume or he's not showing. Peter Gabriel warns Ace to quit being biatchy or he'll show up in his old Slipperman suit   (ultimateclassicrock.com) divider line 48
    More: Followup, Ace Frehley, Hall of Fames, Peter Gabriel, Rock and Roll All Nite, Paul Stanley  
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2013-12-23 09:23:20 PM  
Not really knowing anything about the history of KISS, it sounds like he was simply saying you couldn't have them both on-stage in the same make-up/costume at the same time. Which makes perfect sense and is a perfectly valid and reasonable point. That's not being a prima donna, that's putting on a good show.
 
2013-12-23 09:42:45 PM  
Didn't Ace drop dead last year?
 
2013-12-24 12:09:15 AM  
Three humbuckers? Who ever needs more than a single coil?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-24 12:21:46 AM  
No Eric Carr = fark you, whoever made that decision.

He was a way better drummer, and more important to the band that Peter Criss.

/sounds like $immons decision to me.
 
2013-12-24 12:46:48 AM  
God gave rock and roll to you.
 
2013-12-24 12:50:26 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.


I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.
 
2013-12-24 12:58:35 AM  

GreenAdder: AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.

I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.


Well, God put it in the soul of everyone.

Hard for Wyld Stallyns to claim something that everyone received.
 
2013-12-24 02:45:27 AM  

Bucky Katt: Didn't Ace drop dead last year?


It was tragic... he exploded on stage.
 
2013-12-24 03:44:09 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: It was tragic... he exploded on stage.


Did they dust for vomit?
 
2013-12-24 05:06:34 AM  
Ace back in the KISS groove
 
2013-12-24 05:39:12 AM  
Ace is assuming Gene will rent the costume at a reasonable rate.
 
2013-12-24 06:31:33 AM  

GreenAdder: AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.

I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.


Well once Wyld Stallynz stole it from Petra, anything goes.
 
2013-12-24 06:38:16 AM  

Lord_Dubu: GreenAdder: AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.

I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.

Well once Wyld Stallynz stole it from Petra, anything goes.


And Petra stole it from Argent.

/ Russ Ballard nods knowingly
 
2013-12-24 07:03:43 AM  
I suppose both Ace and Peter will get union contract scale for their appearance. About time they were able to earn some money.
 
2013-12-24 07:21:51 AM  
I'm glad I pay 50 bucks a year so you farks can greenlight shiatty headlines that are factually inaccurate.
Is this CNN?
 
2013-12-24 07:29:55 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-24 07:42:08 AM  
If I wee Peter Gabriel, I'd show up as Britannia, just to screw with people:

api.ning.com
 
2013-12-24 07:56:23 AM  
Kiss sucks, so who cares?
 
2013-12-24 07:58:05 AM  
First off, forgive me for asking the ridiculously obvious question (that whole "I hate Jann Wenner" thing), but is anyone other than Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter officially being recognized?  I know the induction list is usually very specific about which lineup is officially inducted, thus making Tommy & Eric pretty much not officially invited

Second, I wonder how quickly the three of them (Paul not included, because wisely, he picked one farking spot to color in and no shirt) can get *into* costume? Just wondering if they really want to be in costume for the whole show or something.  Or they could just say "fark it" and come out in suits and make up, a la Dressed to Kill.
 
2013-12-24 08:13:43 AM  
Disturbing lack of slippermen in this thread.
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-24 08:47:12 AM  

GreenAdder: AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.

I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.


you confuse theft with payment of royalties for use. and Russ Ballard wrote it.
 
2013-12-24 09:24:29 AM  
KISS is a perfect example of why it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not the Rock and Roll Hall of Talent. I mean, these guys beat Deep Purple?
 
2013-12-24 09:24:32 AM  
KISS sucks.  That is all.
 
2013-12-24 09:25:40 AM  

KrispyKritter: GreenAdder: AverageAmericanGuy: God gave rock and roll to you.

I still can't believe Wyld Stallynz let KISS get away with stealing that song.

you confuse theft with payment of royalties for use. and Russ Ballard wrote it.


The names "Bill" and "Ted" don't ring much of a bell for you, huh?
 
2013-12-24 09:31:11 AM  

GreenAdder: Three humbuckers? Who ever needs more than a single coil?

[i.imgur.com image 275x360]


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-24 09:31:44 AM  

olddeegee: KISS is a perfect example of why it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not the Rock and Roll Hall of Talent. I mean, these guys beat Deep Purple?


While I agree, you have to admit it would be an absolute headache trying to figure out which members of the revolving door that is Deep Purple to include.

They've been stacked with talent throughout several of their lineups.
 
2013-12-24 09:39:34 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: No Eric Carr = fark you, whoever made that decision.

He was a way better drummer, and more important to the band that Peter Criss.

/sounds like $immons decision to me.


On the fence about Eric Carr.  It wouldn't bother me if he was included.

Can't believe you are serious with your Peter Criss comment.  His vocals were pretty important to the band.  Beth, Black Diamond, Hard Luck Woman....
 
2013-12-24 09:42:17 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: No Eric Carr = fark you, whoever made that decision.

He was a way better drummer, and more important to the band that Peter Criss.

/sounds like $immons decision to me.


This kind of thing is pretty common with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  For example, when Fleetwood Mac got in, Bob Welch, who led the band in the period between the departure of Peter Green and the arrival of Buckingham and Nicks, was excluded.

The Sex Pistols were right when they called the RRHOF a "piss stain".  It's really a joke.
 
2013-12-24 09:55:25 AM  

Emrick: FirstNationalBastard: No Eric Carr = fark you, whoever made that decision.

He was a way better drummer, and more important to the band that Peter Criss.

/sounds like $immons decision to me.

On the fence about Eric Carr.  It wouldn't bother me if he was included.

Can't believe you are serious with your Peter Criss comment.  His vocals were pretty important to the band.  Beth, Black Diamond, Hard Luck Woman....


Yeah, his weird Jazz based style was important to the original sound, too.
 
2013-12-24 10:01:58 AM  
peter gabriel doth render Kiss the mewling, hackneyed poseurs they truly be.
 
2013-12-24 10:54:58 AM  
Who cares? KISS wasn't that great of a band anyway.
 
2013-12-24 11:07:55 AM  

gnosis301: Who cares? KISS wasn't that great of a band anyway.


I imagine the people that were fans of them care as well as people that consider them to have made a nice mark in popular culture in America over the years.

It seems like a sorta big ceremony they're doing and the original band member seems to care about making sure things don't look like a huge joke.
 
2013-12-24 11:18:20 AM  

gnosis301: Who cares? KISS wasn't that great of a band anyway.


Musically? No, they weren't that great.

Everything else they did was pretty close to perfect. They took being a rock star to a whole new level from massive stage shows to marketing.

Because of the costumes, catchy songs, movies, tv, comic books, etc they inspired a generation of kids to pick up an instrument and play. They also made no pretense that rock should anything but fun.

The "Hall of Fame" isn't just about the music, it's also about the impact these bands had on pop culture.
 
2013-12-24 11:20:52 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: No Eric Carr = fark you, whoever made that decision.

He was a way better drummer, and more important to the band that Peter Criss.

/sounds like $immons decision to me.


Do you mean for the induction or the performance? If the latter, I'm afraid I have some bad news for you...
 
2013-12-24 11:23:48 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: olddeegee: KISS is a perfect example of why it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not the Rock and Roll Hall of Talent. I mean, these guys beat Deep Purple?

While I agree, you have to admit it would be an absolute headache trying to figure out which members of the revolving door that is Deep Purple to include.

They've been stacked with talent throughout several of their lineups.


I'd have to go with the 69-73 line-up with Blackmore. Although I really like "Burn".
 
2013-12-24 11:56:39 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: olddeegee: KISS is a perfect example of why it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not the Rock and Roll Hall of Talent. I mean, these guys beat Deep Purple?

While I agree, you have to admit it would be an absolute headache trying to figure out which members of the revolving door that is Deep Purple to include.

They've been stacked with talent throughout several of their lineups.


Mark II (Gillian, Blackmore, Lord, Glover, Paice) would be the obvious guess - they're who brought us "Smoke on the Water" & the more memorable songs by the band.  Inviting in Evans & Coverdale in addition to Mark II would also make sense.  I wouldn't include Morse or Airey, even if they are in the current band. Simper & Hughes are meh; Simper more likely since he was an original member.
 
2013-12-24 12:09:43 PM  
I was fortunate to see Kiss at the farewell tour in 1998 - before I joined the service. My sister rented a limo and we had a huge bag of hash, let alone a bottle of Jack Daniels to go with it. It was Skidrow and Ted Nugent opening up, I almost fell asleep during Ted Nugent and my dad had to take me to get some food to sober up, bad enough I had two joints and a few shots, but during the concert weed was being passed around like cigarettes.

/it was awesome for my first time, my fav has to be judas priest though, except for the whole Whitesnake opening up, I'd rather listen to celine dion.
 
2013-12-24 12:11:21 PM  
When people say KISS weren't that good musically, who are you comparing them to?  Compared to 80s shredders?   No, they weren't that good.  Compared to any 90s grunge band?  They were light years ahead.  Compared to their contemporaries in the 70s?  They were on par.  Compared to the Beatles.....?

They had a lot of diversity in their catalogue too.  It wasn't all "Rock & Roll All Nite".  Going Blind sounds nothing like I Still Love You which sounds nothing like Great Expectations.
 
2013-12-24 01:10:36 PM  

Misconduc: I was fortunate to see Kiss at the farewell tour in 1998 - before I joined the service. My sister rented a limo and we had a huge bag of hash, let alone a bottle of Jack Daniels to go with it. It was Skidrow and Ted Nugent opening up, I almost fell asleep during Ted Nugent and my dad had to take me to get some food to sober up, bad enough I had two joints and a few shots, but during the concert weed was being passed around like cigarettes.

/it was awesome for my first time, my fav has to be judas priest though, except for the whole Whitesnake opening up, I'd rather listen to celine dion.



So all you're really talking about remembering here is the drugs and booze. Not one recollection about the quality of the music, the way the band looked, the songs they played, etc... But you remember being high, drunk, and nearly passing out.

You could have saved yourself the cost of concert tickets and just got wasted for as much of an impression as the music had on you, apparently.
 
2013-12-24 01:35:39 PM  
Whodidwhatnow?
 
2013-12-24 02:04:10 PM  
It's not that unusual when a band such as this is being "inducted" that they focus on the original line-up. When Black Sabbath was inducted they didn't invite Dio or any of the other subsequent singers or band members. When Alice Cooper went in they brought out the surviving members of the first original group as well. The four founding members of Kiss were the ones who put them on the map so it's fitting that they focus on them.
 
2013-12-24 02:07:08 PM  

ZeroCorpse: You could have saved yourself the cost of concert tickets and just got wasted for as much of an impression as the music had on you, apparently.



I have brought this to the attention of many fans of Jimmy Buffett, Dave Matthews, and Phish to no avail.
 
2013-12-24 03:21:12 PM  
Worked for CCR.
 
2013-12-24 04:15:24 PM  

Misconduc: I was fortunate to see Kiss at the farewell tour in 1998 - before I joined the service. My sister rented a limo and we had a huge bag of hash, let alone a bottle of Jack Daniels to go with it. It was Skidrow and Ted Nugent opening up, I almost fell asleep during Ted Nugent and my dad had to take me to get some food to sober up, bad enough I had two joints and a few shots, but during the concert weed was being passed around like cigarettes.

/it was awesome for my first time, my fav has to be judas priest though, except for the whole Whitesnake opening up, I'd rather listen to celine dion.


That's a hell of a story right there.
 
2013-12-24 05:46:14 PM  
"How you all feel? Alright, I got a little question for all you....I wanna know how many people here like to take a taste of alcohol?!! All right! I know, you know it's getting so hot outside and you always need something to cool you off...there's gotta be some people out there that like to drink tequila! All right! I was talking to somebody back stage before and they were telling me there's a lot of you people there that like to drink vodka and orange juice...yeah! I tell ya somethin...when you're down in the dumps and you need something to bring you up, there's only one thing that's gonna do it the way you want it! WHAT'S THAT? I can't hear you! COLD GIN!!!!!!"
 
2013-12-24 10:29:13 PM  
If it weren't for KISS there would probably be no Garth Brooks. What he did was bring the KISS stage show to country music...
 
2013-12-25 01:06:21 AM  
I quit caring when Madonna was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame.
 
2013-12-25 09:54:28 AM  
Kiss is the worst band ever
 
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