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2013-12-24 12:57:26 AM
"hey, your cholesterol is high which may mean ... something? I guess? Here's some drugs that will wreck your liver."
 
2013-12-24 01:10:24 AM
I don't eat McDonalds food very often, and I sure as hell don't eat their chicken nuggets and fries .. that being said, my neighbor of 17 years has worked for McDonalds for as long as I can remember and she does just fine ... I can't say whether she eats that crap or not, but hey, I get it .. it is ok to talk shiat about McDonalds because OMFG McDonalds!

I have a monthly budget, including food, of $1800 a month ... I have everything I need and more

Is anyone interested in a few extra pounds? I'd like to shed a few!
 
2013-12-24 01:10:54 AM

max_pooper: Except oil is an international commodity that US producers do not have a monopoly on.


And yet, let an oil producing regime collapse and who shows up to "protect our American citizens in South Sudan"?  Just as the latest example.  It is almost not an analogy to say that oil is the blood of a growing economy.  We have many donors.  Why Europe keeps whining that we should be paying the same as them per litre (whatever that is), is a tragic comedy.  They should know why by now.
 
2013-12-24 01:23:11 AM
This is silly. McDonald's employees can't afford to eat at McDonald's.

/do they even take food stamps?
 
2013-12-24 01:27:16 AM

Churchill2004: feckingmorons: . All the food at McDonalds is not bad, in fact none of the food at McDonalds is bad when part of a balanced diet.

This. For all the biatching and moaning, there's not a thing on the menu there that you would turn your nose up at if your mom set it down in front of you for home-cooked Friday dinner.


I'd call bullshiat on the home cooked part certainly
 
2013-12-24 01:29:39 AM

max_pooper: GORDON: feckingmorons: Would it be better if they suggested that eating fast food constantly was good?

McDonald's is proving proper advice and yet they get flak for it.

Reminds me of the oil industry.

They get "subsidies" and that is bad.  But if the subsidies get removed and the price of gasoline goes up, which inordinately hurts the poor more than the wealthy, then that will be bad.  When they find new oil fields and use them, ensuring there is no petroleum shortage, they are bad because global warming.  If they stop exploration and the gas dries up while there is no affordable alternative, that would, again, hurt the poor the most, and that makes them bad.

There must be money in crusading against... everything.

Except oil is an international commodity that US producers do not have a monopoly on. Ending US government subsidies for US oil companies only effects US oil companies. If they try to raise prices to maintain their rather large profits after the subsidies are removed, international commodity traders will buy oil from producers in other countries or domestic producers who's business model does of depend on government funding.

Fungible commodity is fungible.


Yes, oil is an international commodity and its price is set by the international marketplace. Keep in mind that OPEC is a huge driving force behind the price as well. If you are prepared to pay significantly more for gasoline, oil and plastics, then by all means, lets put some US oil producers out of business.

Also, crude oil is not necessarily a fungible commodity

I really enjoy listening to crazy folks .. you know the kind ...

OMFG, gas is too expensive, we need to tax the oil companies more! OMFG, we are importing too much oil from foreign countries, we need to drill here except NIMBY. OMFG, we need more electric cars, but we need to shut down coal fired plants and nuclear plants.

Kinda makes your eyes tear up a bit doesn't it.
 
2013-12-24 01:33:25 AM

phrawgh: This is silly. McDonald's employees can't afford to eat at McDonald's.

/do they even take food stamps?


Apparently they do in Michigan. Whoda think it?

Its old, but perhaps still relevant

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-gettin g- into-the-food-stamp-act/
 
2013-12-24 01:42:10 AM
You guys are missing the point. Unless they are on the clock, they don't want the tacky poors in their stores.
 
2013-12-24 01:44:07 AM
Cookies are a sometimes food
 
2013-12-24 01:44:29 AM

freetomato: You guys are missing the point. Unless they are on the clock, they don't want the tacky poors in their stores.


Bad for their suffering image. Left that off.
 
2013-12-24 02:29:17 AM

SovietCanuckistan: . I don't think the majority of people in Mexico agree with your daily McMeal quotient either.


There are ~400 McDonalds in Mexico v. about 19,000 in the US. I'll bet a majority of Mexicans have never eaten at a McDonalds. In the big town of over 1 million people in the metropolitan area where I own a home there are exactly two McDonalds.
 
2013-12-24 02:32:04 AM

zerkalo: Cookies are a sometimes food


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-24 02:32:50 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: How much are McDonald's paying these people to defend them on Fark?


I hold an equity position. It is not a significant part of my investment holdings.
 
2013-12-24 02:34:46 AM

NakedDrummer: Clemkadidlefark: 68 yo lady who worked with me (widowed 15 years) ate 3 meals a day at McDonalds. Showed me her cholesterol test, concerned that 160 might be bad.

This was when I was lean and running 7 miles 6x a week. Mine was 160. The moral of the story is genetics.

another story is cholesterol tests have proven to be non-indicative of any kind of level of health.
they are a great way for doctors to sell statins though.


That is absurd. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-12-24 03:39:14 AM

optikeye: whatshisname: Their original menu was never meant to be eaten regularly. It was a treat for a Friday night out with the kids.

Plus most of the portions where about 30 percent smaller. And the fries where fried in beef tallow oil and a small portion would fill you up.

I'll still go once a month and get a regular cheese burger and ice water when I'm too busy for a sit down lunch....any more and I don't really feel well for the rest of the day.


I get a cheeseburger and a Diet Coke for my McLunch on the run. Under $5 and reasonably lo cal. There's no reason to get the Ultra Supersize Megameal because it's A Deal.
 
2013-12-24 04:13:14 AM

whatshisname: I think McDonalds is doing a pretty good job of trying change with the times. Their original menu was never meant to be eaten regularly. It was a treat for a Friday night out with the kids.


The Friday fast food dinner was a treat for my family as a child. It only occured twice a month based on my parents paydays. My family calls homemade burgers Eddie Murphy burgers because of his routine.
 
2013-12-24 04:24:20 AM

merrillvillain: whatshisname: I think McDonalds is doing a pretty good job of trying change with the times. Their original menu was never meant to be eaten regularly. It was a treat for a Friday night out with the kids.

The Friday fast food dinner was a treat for my family as a child. It only occured twice a month based on my parents paydays. My family calls homemade burgers Eddie Murphy burgers because of his routine.


We had them maybe 3 times a year on a road trip, be it a McMuffin in the morning or a burger later.

Morgan Spurlock is to be commended. He forced them to offer healthy choices to on the go people.
 
2013-12-24 04:47:58 AM

TuteTibiImperes: optikeye: feckingmorons: Would it be better if they suggested that eating fast food constantly was good?

McDonald's is proving proper advice and yet they get flak for it.

I think it's more about suggesting that to their EMPLOYEES as a suggestion about how to be healthier employees with less days off from work and less health care costs to the corporation....and not their customers.

If they did their on their consumer web page instead of a employee only website it would be a different story.

The advice wouldn't be entirely out of place even on their consumer facing site.  It doesn't say not to eat at McDonalds, or not to eat fast food at all, it just says not to make fast food a staple of your diet.

There's nothing wrong with unhealthy food in moderation.


If people used the product in moderation, the companies that sell it would not exist on anything remotely approaching their current scale and profitability. They wouldn't beg people not to hand over their money if they weren't absolutely sure that people are going to continue handing over the money no matter what they say.
 
2013-12-24 07:16:34 AM
Whoever is in charge of that advice column, you're doing a great job!! Please keep 'em coming!!
 
2013-12-24 07:18:40 AM

whatshisname: Yogimus: SovietCanuckistan: how can stupid people fight the barrage of 'consume it all' messaging?

Same way everyone else does. Their farked up shiat of a live is the CONSEQUENCE of their failures. Consequences are good.

Perhaps in the minority of cases. Usually their situations are inherited - whether it's an addiction, abuse, a low IQ or extremely poor parenting. Not everyone can be above average. In fact less than half of us can.


Not true. When we look at this from a pure maths perspective, then there is no reason why 90% of Americans people can't weigh less than the population average.
 
2013-12-24 07:23:27 AM

syrynxx: This is like one of those paradoxes that explodes robot brains.


Why?

One of the things about McDonalds is that they're completely open about their food. Including the fact that it's something you shouldn't indulge in on a daily basis.

Doing so is just a win for them, it makes them look better, and people ignore the advice anyway. So, win/win.

---

Though at least in my country you can easily eat healthy in McDonalds. They serve apples, carrots, salad bowls etc. Quite popular with mixed groups.
 
2013-12-24 07:26:00 AM
optikeye:

If they did their on their consumer web page instead of a employee only website it would be a different story.

They do that though. Go check their consumer page.

All it does is that it makes the consumers feel really well informed, and percieve McDonalds as honest.

Some don't eat there more than once a week, which is a smart choice, others eat there every day.

Noone can blame McDonalds though.
 
2013-12-24 08:05:03 AM

kronicfeld: Guess what: if you eat nothing but carrots, you have an unhealthy diet. If you eat nothing but yogurt, you have an unhealthy diet.


BUT!  Eat carrots AND yogurt...

imageshack.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21vl3hRGlMw
 
2013-12-24 08:14:26 AM

feckingmorons: optikeye: feckingmorons: If they listed all of the nutrition information for each item they serve on the website? Well they do that.

I must assume that non-exempt part time employees at McDonalds who take time off because they have had a huge MI from eating fast food for 3 (or 7 or 8) meals a day don't actually cost the company more money, they simply don't get paid while they recuperate.

I bet you a Big Mac your retirement funds hold a position in McDonald's. so before you go all 'big food' you might want to check. If they don't you have crappy funds.

Hang on mate, you're leaping and bounding to conclusions here, along with ad hominem

I"m simply saying it is rather odd that McD recommends their own employees not to eat their stuff as part of their daily on their internal employee only website and not on the public website. This is a fact, No?

I don't think most of us spend half their waking hours at McDonalds and enjoy a staff discount. I think it is particularly relevant to those who do.


Yeah, this isn't the egregious one.  As the article said, there's been a parade of holiday cheer from McDonalds.  When the employees asked for more money, a memo went out saying they should get a second job.  Then another went out saying they should sell their superfluous items.  Apparently there was one saying you should tip your servants well this holiday season.

There's been a lot of tone-deaf nonsense pouring out of McDonald's since the strike, this is part of that narrative, I guess, but not in the same ballpark.

"Hey, I know you guys, who are mostly young or have been working poor for years, might be tempted to eat here during your shift, and maybe before and after your shift too.  We encourage you to eat here with the discounts and lack of breaks, but we'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that our food causes liver failure and heart disease.  Merry Christmas."  Fark... at least it's an honest, sensible message...
 
2013-12-24 08:15:41 AM
I've heard people whine that McDonald's should raise the wages.

And others don their monocles and state that McDonald's has always been a temporary place for college students to work.

I choose to eat italian.
 
2013-12-24 08:16:29 AM

feckingmorons: Would it be better if they suggested that eating fast food constantly was good?

McDonald's is proving proper advice and yet they get flak for it.


It's not like they have to worry. They have figured out that no matter how much proper nutrition and healthy eating is preached to the general populace it won't affect their bottom line much. Heavy users of fast food will almost always be heavy users. No matter how much weight or other health problems they have.
 
2013-12-24 08:43:40 AM

kronicfeld: Guess what: if you eat nothing but carrots, you have an unhealthy diet. If you eat nothing but yogurt, you have an unhealthy diet.


But here we are talking about an entree, a beverage, and a side.

If I ate a big salad, and drank a mixed veggie drink, and had a side of green beans every day...
 
2013-12-24 08:48:29 AM

Churchill2004: feckingmorons: . All the food at McDonalds is not bad, in fact none of the food at McDonalds is bad when part of a balanced diet.

This. For all the biatching and moaning, there's not a thing on the menu there that you would turn your nose up at if your mom set it down in front of you for home-cooked Friday dinner.


But see, my mom would make a burger from actual burger meat.  It would be on a better bun.  The ingredients would be fresher, and there would be no soda.  Instead of french fries, it would be mashed taters.
Sorry, but in most cases, you cannot compare a fast food meal to one made at home.
 
2013-12-24 08:49:01 AM
Again with this garbage about eating more fat making you fat...

Sure, it's not the large order of fries you ate and the large coke, it's the fat in the beef, the fat the fries were cooked in, and the 'special sauce' causing you to store all that energy.
 
2013-12-24 08:59:00 AM

AllDevicesZeroDown: I didn't recall McDonald's ever saying that their food WAS healthy.  They are just trying to appease the "I don't know what to put into my mouth unless the government tells me, and that's how it should be" crowd.  Bravo, I guess.


And the anti-ebil-gubmint threadshiat has happened, I see...
 
2013-12-24 09:08:12 AM

Nabb1: Bag lunch. It's cheaper, anyway.


Sorry to say, but that bologna on white bread and bag of Lay's isn't that much healthier than Mickey D's, in the long run.
 
2013-12-24 09:11:17 AM

kronicfeld: Guess what: if you eat nothing but carrots, you have an unhealthy diet. If you eat nothing but yogurt, you have an unhealthy diet.


My cousin would only eat carrots when he was a baby.  So that's what his mom gave him--as much as he wanted.  Kid's eating, right?  His body knows what it needs.
Kid turned orange.  Doc said it no harm done; just feed him some other stuff, too.
/csb
 
2013-12-24 09:13:00 AM

feckingmorons: NakedDrummer: Clemkadidlefark: 68 yo lady who worked with me (widowed 15 years) ate 3 meals a day at McDonalds. Showed me her cholesterol test, concerned that 160 might be bad.

This was when I was lean and running 7 miles 6x a week. Mine was 160. The moral of the story is genetics.

another story is cholesterol tests have proven to be non-indicative of any kind of level of health.
they are a great way for doctors to sell statins though.

That is absurd. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Cholesterol has been demonized along with salt and saturated fats, all essential to life and health. Sugar and cereals/grains are the real problem. People are still scared of eggs.. absurd since it's one of the best foods as long as you eat the whole egg including the yolk.

The whole cholesterol thing is old shaky science. I do own stock in drug companies so feel free to dump statins down your throat.
 
2013-12-24 09:18:53 AM

karlandtanya: kronicfeld: Guess what: if you eat nothing but carrots, you have an unhealthy diet. If you eat nothing but yogurt, you have an unhealthy diet.

My cousin would only eat carrots when he was a baby.  So that's what his mom gave him--as much as he wanted.  Kid's eating, right?  His body knows what it needs.
Kid turned orange.  Doc said it no harm done; just feed him some other stuff, too.
/csb


Indeed. I can attest to the veracity of this particular cool story, bro. I happened to me with carrot baby food. The family thought I had jaundice or something.

/CSB II: The 14 Carrot Caper
 
2013-12-24 09:20:41 AM

santadog: kronicfeld: Guess what: if you eat nothing but carrots, you have an unhealthy diet. If you eat nothing but yogurt, you have an unhealthy diet.

But here we are talking about an entree, a beverage, and a side.

If I ate a big salad, and drank a mixed veggie drink, and had a side of green beans every day...


You'd die from vitamin B12 deficiency. Add a big steak!
 
2013-12-24 09:48:56 AM
Ha! Nice try McDonald's but poor stupid people will continue to eat your food seven days a week and then try and sue you when they develop health problems.
 
2013-12-24 10:47:07 AM
McDonalds contracts with a third party to provide this content. It is not created by McDonalds.

This is the same issue that was completely ignored for the Hoilday Tipping Guide that got everyone worked into a tizzy.

Things like this make me wonder how much "news" is really just taken out of context and swallowed hook, line and sinker by the people of Duhmerica.
 
2013-12-24 11:32:02 AM

SovietCanuckistan: feckingmorons: SovietCanuckistan: feckingmorons: SovietCanuckistan: What the fark is up with Rotten Ronnie's lately? I love all the super-fit, super-healthy people defending these clown(s) in the thread. Look at the obesity rates, you are in the ever shrinking majority. But keep on feeling all majora like, wrap your lips around that douche nozzle. Moderation? Yeah, that's what America is all aboot, eh? Sensible homes, cars, meals, etc.

McDonald's is not responsible for people being stupid. Even if we stipulate that they are responsible for people being fat, their parents, their schools and they themselves are the reason they are stupid.

True, but how can stupid people fight the barrage of 'consume it all' messaging? Every other ad is fast food, come on in and try the new stuff. Even the smartest people are not immune to the siren call of slick ads.

So it is advertising's fault we are morons? We're lied to constantly from our government, our politicians, and the media. We know that eating three hamburgers is not a good balanced diet, but we're too lazy and stupid to do otherwise. Perhaps we have too much money to spend on fast food when we should be economizing and eating at home more. In Mexico McDonalds is a treat, not a daily meal.

Well, it's the normalizing of lies, your lying politics and media are great examples. I don't think the majority of people in Mexico agree with your daily McMeal quotient either. Most 'Weternized' nations are growing out, not up!


That's all fine and good....  but I'd just like to inform the both of you that McWhatevers or not, Mexico isn't exactly the land of the svelte.
They have been neck and neck and neck and neck with the USA for fattest of the larger countries for years.
In fact I think they are currently the fattest, but it depends on which report you read.
 
2013-12-24 11:42:59 AM
They key word is "always".
 
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