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2013-12-23 04:14:00 PM  
Waste no opportunity to foment distrust in the government but make sure you mold them into good jesusy consumers.

Thanks, guys.  When we no longer believe our own national achievements any more WTF do we have left? Creating a generation of science deniers ain't gonna make us great again.
 
2013-12-23 04:15:37 PM  
Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.
 
2013-12-23 04:17:03 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.


Is Buzz Aldrin even a real person? I don't know.
 
2013-12-23 04:18:25 PM  
Lol... What the fark?
 
2013-12-23 04:20:09 PM  

doyner: Waste no opportunity to foment distrust in the government but make sure you mold them into good jesusy consumers.

Thanks, guys.  When we no longer believe our own national achievements any more WTF do we have left? Creating a generation of science deniers ain't gonna make us great again.


Jesus Christ, so much this.
 
2013-12-23 04:24:00 PM  
asset-5.soup.io
 
2013-12-23 04:25:47 PM  
weather ... or not

Does that really annoy anyone else?
 
2013-12-23 04:26:55 PM  
These people really are the most despicable kinds of human filth imaginable. Teaching kids to be curious and to think critically is one of the most important things that can be taught. Asking "How can we be sure that Apollo 11 really landed on the moon?" is a good way to get them thinking about evidence, critical thought, and the scientific process. Telling them an outright lie that no one knows whether Apollo 11 landed on the moon or not is beyond incomprehensible.

The silver lining is that this is bound to backfire. They are trying to plant seeds of doubt in children's heads about whether or not to trust "science" so when they later talk about how evolution and the big bang theory are lies from the pits of hell, they'll be willing to accept that evil science is trying to trick them again. Unfortunately for these folks, the kids, having been taught that adults in positions of authority are full of shiat, are going to be a lot less willing to accept crazy stories about global floods, talking snakes, virgin births, and water into wine just because they were told so. Oops.
 
2013-12-23 04:31:27 PM  

vernonFL: antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.

Is Buzz Aldrin even a real person? I don't know.


Buzz Aldrin is really a crash-test dummy named Norman.  He was left behind in Arizona after they finished filming. Interesting fact:  he did a guest appearance as Buster during the elevator-shaft episode of Mythbusters.

So he's still getting work, which is nice for him.
 
2013-12-23 04:37:30 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: weather ... or not

Does that really annoy anyone else?


Your not supposed to let that sort of stuff bother you.
 
2013-12-23 04:38:22 PM  
Remember, kids, God wants you to take that amazing brain of yours and lock it up nice and tight where nothing bad can get at it! It's like you got a Bugatti Veyron for Christmas but you should only push it down the driveway to get the church bulletin!

In these people's Bibles do Adam and Even not eat from the Tree of Knowledge and instead put on nice matching sweaters and watch "Davey and Goliath?"
 
2013-12-23 04:55:52 PM  
When even the Soviets recognized we got to the moon, that pretty much settles it.
 
2013-12-23 04:59:03 PM  
I say we send those who disbelieve to the moon and remove all doubt.
 
2013-12-23 05:02:32 PM  

vernonFL: antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.

Is Buzz Aldrin even a real person? I don't know.


Ha, like anyone would go by the name Buzz.
 
2013-12-23 05:06:37 PM  
I saw an unattributed picture on some guy's blog and now I know that there is a rampant movement in this country to teach that the moon landing is fake. This enables me to feel both outrage and sadness at the state of the nation and a profound, satisfying self-awareness of my own intelligence. I shall now go find someone who posted something about atheism being a religion and express my outrage there.
 
2013-12-23 05:06:51 PM  

vernonFL: Is Buzz Aldrin even a real person? I don't know.


Your such a idiot. He and Woody overcame their rivalry and became best friends, saving Christmas in the process.
 
2013-12-23 05:23:45 PM  
Some people don't believe we built the Hoover dam, that it was a gift by angels. Did we build it? No one knows!
 
2013-12-23 05:40:24 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: weather ... or not

Does that really annoy anyone else?


I'm annoyed by the fact that it seems the book is trying to teach the kids to use "weather" and not "whether."

/unclear teaching instructions ftw!
//also, what the hell happened to parochial education? I came out of a Baptist school in 6th grade knowing more than high school seniors in public school. Now it seems like it's reversed.
 
2013-12-23 05:44:51 PM  
We seem to be going through a real anti-science period, there's pushback on vaccines, genetically modified foods, moon landing, 9/11, Obama's birf certifkat, climate change...well, you know the whack-a-doodle list.

I suspect that all of it, at least obliquely, is related to the death of religion and the belief in god(s). In order for religion to not die, and in order for the belief in gods to not die, science HAS to be wrong, proof HAS to be wrong. And so, in some areas at least, there's this fight to show it to be wrong.

Even the fiasco that is resistance to better health care for you guys is an example, where if people shriek loud enough, chant long enough, mean it enough, they can create reality.

It's very much as if they think reality cannot be measured in an external, provable way. That's it's somehow open to interpretation.

I don't think that's a conscious thing, I don't think it's anyone's strategy, but I think it's what's going on. I think this is maybe how it looks when religion dies.
 
2013-12-23 05:56:36 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: [asset-5.soup.io image 450x450]


I am wearing this very T-shirt today.
 
2013-12-23 05:56:46 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.


Right before Buzz punched the him, the guy called Buzz a liar. That was made him lose his cool, and I don't blame him. Can you imagine risking your life for science, then some snot-nose comes along and treats you like David Blane.
 
2013-12-23 05:57:19 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.


The video of that always brings a smile to my face. :)
 
2013-12-23 05:58:24 PM  

Peki: I came out of a Baptist school in 6th grade knowing more than high school seniors in public school. Now it seems like it's reversed.


And the scary part is that the public schools haven't exactly gotten better on average.
 
2013-12-23 05:58:36 PM  
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..left that off the end of the last post.

/don't call Mr. Aldrin a liar if you like your teeth
 
2013-12-23 05:59:26 PM  
Fine! I think the Smithsonian should ask for their Saturn V back (yes, by law all NASA property becomes Smithsonian property when it's deemed no longer of use, from their typewriters on up).
 
2013-12-23 05:59:52 PM  
Dumbfarks.
 
2013-12-23 06:00:01 PM  
Some people don't believe we have immortal souls. Do we have souls? No one knows.
 
2013-12-23 06:00:24 PM  

Diogenes: I say we send those who disbelieve to the moon and remove all doubt.


I second that.

images1.cliqueclack.com
 
2013-12-23 06:02:27 PM  
When do we start purging these people?
 
2013-12-23 06:02:53 PM  
How can the flag be fluttering when there is no wind on the moon?"

NASA acknowledged the moon had no atmosphere and said the flag has a wire frame in it.

/just fyi
 
2013-12-23 06:02:56 PM  
"Prager found this image on the interwebs"
"While Prager's not 100% sure of the source of this unidentified textbook - it's also been described by another blog as "an English textbook from South Korea"

Come on. This is just lame.

And already the idiot Farkers are outing themselves by going full retard against this.
 
2013-12-23 06:04:23 PM  

doyner: Peki: I came out of a Baptist school in 6th grade knowing more than high school seniors in public school. Now it seems like it's reversed.

And the scary part is that the public schools haven't exactly gotten better on average.


Exactly.
 
2013-12-23 06:05:33 PM  
The sky is simply a velvet canvas painted by God, so of course we didn't go to the moon.
 
2013-12-23 06:06:01 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: [asset-5.soup.io image 450x450]


Geez. At least use the one that fits the article:

image.spreadshirt.com
 
2013-12-23 06:07:17 PM  
I know that there is this thing called 'the domestic terrorism task force', I say we call them up and send them on down to these terrorist training centers and burn down the place or make a crater just to be sure nothing remains.

/Ignorant people are the best Teahadists.
 
2013-12-23 06:07:28 PM  

Barfmaker: We seem to be going through a real anti-science period, there's pushback on vaccines, genetically modified foods, moon landing, 9/11, Obama's birf certifkat, climate change...well, you know the whack-a-doodle list.

I suspect that all of it, at least obliquely, is related to the death of religion and the belief in god(s). In order for religion to not die, and in order for the belief in gods to not die, science HAS to be wrong, proof HAS to be wrong. And so, in some areas at least, there's this fight to show it to be wrong.

Even the fiasco that is resistance to better health care for you guys is an example, where if people shriek loud enough, chant long enough, mean it enough, they can create reality.

It's very much as if they think reality cannot be measured in an external, provable way. That's it's somehow open to interpretation.

I don't think that's a conscious thing, I don't think it's anyone's strategy, but I think it's what's going on. I think this is maybe how it looks when religion dies.


What is really dumb is that science and religion can exist side by side. Science explains the world as we perceive it. Religion explains the world as god intended. So, evolution is true, the age of the earth is true, etc..., because god made man and man perceives the world in a linear limited fashion. God perceives the universe entirely, in all times and all places, we don't know how.The bible is the unerring word of god, yes even the parts that contradict one another. The only problem is that god wrote the bible and because of mans limited ability to perceive the TRUTH we do not understand it entirely.

So, in short the bible and god are true, science is true, it is man who can not perceive both truths.
 
2013-12-23 06:08:05 PM  
BojanglesPaladin:
And already the idiot Farkers are outing themselves by going full retard against this.

I think part of the problem is that given their track record, this is incredibly believable.  It's sort of like how the Onion really can't parody a lot of things these people do because they are already too ridiculous to parody.
 
2013-12-23 06:08:09 PM  

walktoanarcade: antidisestablishmentarianism: Buzz Aldrin punched a man for insinuating that he was never on the moon.

Right before Buzz punched the him, the guy called Buzz a liar. That was made him lose his cool, and I don't blame him. Can you imagine risking your life for science, then some snot-nose comes along and treats you like David Blane.


David is real to me dammit!
 
2013-12-23 06:09:15 PM  
ilrs.gsfc.nasa.gov
 
2013-12-23 06:09:47 PM  
Teaching doubt about everything except the few things they want the kids to believe seems dangerous. Will they believe what they're told to believe, or will they become total skeptics of everything they come across.

Also, there's a dangerously high correlation between moon landing conspiracy theorists and chronic dope smokers. This would make it the publisher's fault if a kid grows up to be a pot head conspiracy theorist.
 
2013-12-23 06:09:59 PM  

NewportBarGuy: When do we start purging these people?


i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-23 06:18:28 PM  
You don't have to spend large dollars to buy a telescope that allows anyone to see the landing sites.

Who wrote that piece of crap?
 
2013-12-23 06:18:54 PM  
Why would they even start the article with the statement "On July 20th, 1969, the Apollo 11 landed on the moon." if they're trying to encourage doubt?

/stupid is as stupid does, i guess
 
2013-12-23 06:20:54 PM  
Interesting how a religion based upon an imaginary friend is attempting to teach critical thinking.
 
2013-12-23 06:26:58 PM  

2wolves: You don't have to spend large dollars to buy a telescope that allows anyone to see the landing sites.

Who wrote that piece of crap?


Bart Siebel had a part in it, I'm sure. He makes a lot of money from the idiotic, gullible masses.Just asking questions type.

www.r-hansen.com
 
2013-12-23 06:27:24 PM  
Now imagine if the Duck Dynasty thing gets the religious tards to vote en mass.  We'll wind up with this kind of thing being federally mandated.  Whoops, biatching about a guy's opinion might not have been a good idea.
 
2013-12-23 06:28:25 PM  
At least we'll get some measure of revenge in ten years or so when the admissions officer at any reputable college takes one look at where the kid graduated from, laughs, and tosses their application straight in the trash.
 
2013-12-23 06:30:19 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: What is really dumb is that science and religion can exist side by side. Science explains the world as we perceive it


I look at a physics book as a guide to understanding His universe.  He wrote the laws of nature, and through discovery, we can better understand His creation.

And when you understand the laws He created, it makes the young-earth creationist universe rather insulting in its simplicity.  Why create such a complex set of universal rules only to start everything 6000 years ago?  It drips with the hubris of human egotism.

The old universe theory seems to be much more awe inspiring, even if we may no longer play such a center role in His plan.
 
2013-12-23 06:35:04 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Some people don't believe we have immortal souls. Do we have souls? No one knows.


But see, that's actually the point of this.  It's not really to make people question whether or not we went to the moon, it's to make the idea that things that you take on faith are true acceptable ideas.

Did we go to the moon? No one knows for sure.  I mean, of course we did, everyone says so, but you just have to take it on faith since no one can be sure.
That's the same as believing in heaven.  A couple of people have claimed to have been there, plus pretty much everyone believes in it, so it must also be true, even if no one knows for sure.

It's not about making the moon landing seem less believable, but about making everything seem no more believable than religion.  Leveling the field, if you will.
 
2013-12-23 06:35:09 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Now imagine if the Duck Dynasty thing gets the religious tards to vote en mass.  We'll wind up with this kind of thing being federally mandated.  Whoops, biatching about a guy's opinion might not have been a good idea.


Just like I said in a Thanksgiving post last month: The Pilgrims came to these shores to escape ignorance and religious intolerance.

Two years later: "HANG THE WITCH! HANG THE WITCH!!"
 
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