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(CBC)   Ice-storm devastates Toronto. Rob Ford has his crack recovery team on high alert   (cbc.ca) divider line 67
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2013-12-23 01:36:48 PM

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2013-12-23 01:40:18 PM

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2013-12-23 02:06:34 PM
Bozo won't declare a state of emergency because he doesn't want to be compared to Lastman calling in the army, and the resulting jokes.
Meanwhile it's supposed to get down to -11 tonight & Toronto Public Housing has dozens of buildings full of people trapped without water or the ability to get out without electricity, many needing walkers or hov-a-rounds that don't do stairs real well...  Nearly every street around Yonge & Eg. has trees/branches down that have pulled down wires, Bayview and Finch, same thing, pretty sure nearly everywhere elsewhere too...  Nope, no emergency.  My mom is here 'cause we have power, her elderly neighbour is at her kid's place with a generator.. but there are a lot of people that don't have those options.  And the "Warming Centers" are too far for a lot of people to walk to (around all the fallen trees and wires, on the ice that is still there 'cause they can't plow or salt with all the branches and wires.  No emergency, sit back, relax, in just a few days your house will be cold enough to save all the stuff in your freezer, just open the lid/door.
 
2013-12-23 02:28:27 PM
225k customers (actually probably closer to 500-800k actual people without power, 3 hospitals on back-up generators (one of the three is one of two major trauma ER's for the city) But no emergency here.

There is a fake RF twitter acct. that has provided more & better info that real Rob Ford... awesome.
 
2013-12-23 02:36:25 PM
Oooo. I like the cut of your lines, subby. I hope this one makes HotW.
 
2013-12-23 02:40:12 PM
If you were Rob Ford (and I am certain many of you wish you were), wouldn't you pretty much be calling a state of emergency every time a dag farted by now? They stripped his power, didn't they? So why is he still making any calls on such conditions like an ice storm?
 
2013-12-23 02:42:06 PM
Very funny guys... now unlock the air lock.
 
2013-12-23 02:43:07 PM
No worries, eh.  They have eight comic books, seven packs of smokes, six packs of two-four, five golden touques, four pounds of back bacon, three French toasts, two turtlenecks, and a beer in a tree.  They'll be fine.

/and a dozen donuts
 
2013-12-23 02:43:11 PM
It's not to funny my place really sucks without power
 
2013-12-23 02:45:42 PM
woohoo the sun just came out!!!
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2013-12-23 02:46:02 PM
An emergency never happened if you don't call it an emergency.

/Rob Ford last heard telling people to get the fark outside and clean up the ice and tree branches at their own expense...
//It'll warm them up.

///This just in: Whiny people biatching about no cable TV.
 
2013-12-23 02:48:11 PM
The DVP looked awesome this morning with all the trees covered in ice. The roads are fine.

Most people have their power back by now.

I'm not sure what "state of emergency" really means though. It sounds expensive. I'm sure that the city is working 24/7 to get people back to where they need to be. If an emergency is declared, what happens?

Also - Ford is the (apparent) mayor of Toronto. Isn't most of this happening outside of the city?
 
2013-12-23 02:48:31 PM

special20: If you were Rob Ford (and I am certain many of you wish you were), wouldn't you pretty much be calling a state of emergency every time a dag farted by now? They stripped his power, didn't they? So why is he still making any calls on such conditions like an ice storm?


The rumour is that if he declares a State of Emergency, the Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly gets to run the show, not him. By Provincial Law only he can delcare a state of emergency, but what happens afterwards was dictated by council a few weeks back when they stripped him of this power.

/Rob, can you quit already so we can have some effective leadership in City Hall?
 
2013-12-23 02:49:04 PM
It's been a slippery couple of days.  I got off lucky with no power loss.  Lots of my neighbours are in tricky situations.
 
2013-12-23 02:49:34 PM

special20: If you were Rob Ford (and I am certain many of you wish you were), wouldn't you pretty much be calling a state of emergency every time a dag farted by now? They stripped his power, didn't they? So why is he still making any calls on such conditions like an ice storm?


If he does that, he actually hands power over to the deputy Mayor as per the power stripping...   so yea it's actually in his interest to not call it... how F'd up is that.
 
2013-12-23 02:50:36 PM

JasonOfOrillia: It's been a slippery couple of days.  I got off lucky with no power loss.  Lots of my neighbours are in tricky situations.


I lost mine for about 36 hours, we ended up in a hotel last night. We had power at noon today, we'll see how long it lasts.

As a bonus, I learned to cook bacon, eggs, toast and coffee on the barbeque.
 
2013-12-23 02:55:04 PM

Brick-House: Very funny guys... now unlock the air lock.


That's actually funnier in this thread than the right one.
 
2013-12-23 02:56:10 PM
No power since probably morning after the storm. Up in the not fancy part of Forest Hill in a building full of elderly people. I think we're one of the worst hit areas (haven't spent too much time online to conserve the phone battery, so I don't know). It's fine for us that we can throw our frozen food on the balcony and leave the apartment for the day, go to a pub downtown or leave town if it takes too long, but it's going to be hellish for a lot of our neighbours if we don't have power back soon. I'm talking 70-80 year old little Jewish ladies living alone stuck up a bunch of flights of stairs with no heating or hot water.
/ it's crazy to not declare an emergency
// grew up on a farm with woodstoves, so going to sleep in the cold is nothing new for me.
 
2013-12-23 02:56:55 PM
I thought Blob Ford lost his power to declare emergencies when they took away his mayor robe & hat?
And yes - "other" parts of Ontario also got hit by the ice-storm - not just drama-queen Toronto.
 
2013-12-23 02:59:12 PM

homarjr: The DVP looked awesome this morning with all the trees covered in ice. The roads are fine.

Most people have their power back by now.

I'm not sure what "state of emergency" really means though. It sounds expensive. I'm sure that the city is working 24/7 to get people back to where they need to be. If an emergency is declared, what happens?

Also - Ford is the (apparent) mayor of Toronto. Isn't most of this happening outside of the city?


Outside of core, yes. But that 300,000 number is in the city itself. It's about 50/50 in the neighbourhoods North of Eglinton. And, I think Etobicoke and Scarborough have bad areas too.
 
2013-12-23 03:00:44 PM
Put chains on your Ford for safety.
 
2013-12-23 03:01:28 PM
hey good thing we have a real mayor, right?

i wonder if he starts to rack up a body count people will start to take this mess seriously.
 
2013-12-23 03:02:15 PM
Oh, and if you ever want to know what an alien invasion looks like from afar, be somewhere near where there are transformers blowing up in an ice storm.
Looks like a long bright green or pink lightning flash with this loud low Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa kind if sound that feels like it's gonna hit you in the chest.
 
2013-12-23 03:03:19 PM

optimus_grime: hey good thing we have a real mayor, right?

i wonder if he starts to rack up a body count people will start to take this mess seriously.


Ford Nation will still stand behind him.
 
2013-12-23 03:03:37 PM
Power's been on and off for 2 days. Big branches and power lines down all along the street. Watched a women yesterday hop the caution tape and walk right over a downed power line. But Darwin was robbed.
 
2013-12-23 03:05:41 PM

Pope Larry II: Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly gets to run the show, not him. By Provincial Law only he can delcare a state of emergency, but what happens afterwards was dictated by council a few weeks back when they stripped him of this power.


sno man: If he does that, he actually hands power over to the deputy Mayor as per the power stripping...   so yea it's actually in his interest to not call it... how F'd up is that.


Oh, I see - that explains it... and without his power, he's just another fat guy in a little coat. Thanks!
 
2013-12-23 03:09:23 PM
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"Dammit, can I go home now?"
 
2013-12-23 03:09:35 PM

JasonOfOrillia: optimus_grime: hey good thing we have a real mayor, right?

i wonder if he starts to rack up a body count people will start to take this mess seriously.

Ford Nation will still stand behind him.


This. He could eat a baby on live tv and his supporters would be able to justify it with a straight face. "Probably one of them elitist librul downtown babies, anyway."

The saddest part is that their inevitable justification for standing behind him ('he keeps taxes low') aren't even true, his supporters are just dumb enough to believe it because he says it so much. Voting really should require an IQ test; if you're ignorant enough to believe obvious lies that have already been debunked then you are too farking stupid to have any say in the governing of the country.
 
2013-12-23 03:16:13 PM
Hopefully someone informed Mayor Ford that it's not the kind of ice you can smoke.

/more whack than crack
 
2013-12-23 03:20:08 PM

Pope Larry II: JasonOfOrillia: It's been a slippery couple of days.  I got off lucky with no power loss.  Lots of my neighbours are in tricky situations.

I lost mine for about 36 hours, we ended up in a hotel last night. We had power at noon today, we'll see how long it lasts.

As a bonus, I learned to cook bacon, eggs, toast and coffee on the barbeque.


That sounds like one hell of an omelette.
 
2013-12-23 03:22:35 PM
This is Ford's Katrina.

In all seriousness, advising people to go out and clear up the fallen trees on their own is just horribly stupid.  Most city dwellers haven't got a clue how to do it safely.  Also, the trees are still likely across power wires, some of which could be live.

From this vantage point, I see no organized attempt to clear the trees (Canadian Army) or restore power (bringing in workers from other municipalities and Provinces), as happened in the 1998 ice storm.

Christmas Day is supposed to be super cold.  If Ford maintains his position, the fact this happened around Christmas will be a minor footnote.  People will freeze to death.

Yes, many of the worst hit areas are in Liberal ridings.
 
2013-12-23 03:27:48 PM

oldfarthenry: I thought Blob Ford lost his power to declare emergencies when they took away his mayor robe & hat?
And yes - "other" parts of Ontario also got hit by the ice-storm - not just drama-queen Toronto.


Its just that the rest of ontario quit it's biatching and got to the business of cleaning it up.
 
2013-12-23 03:31:43 PM
Here's a thought: for the duration of the emergency, why don't Rob Ford and the city council just appoint a well-qualified third party to handle this for them?

I'm looking at you, Mayor Nenshi.
 
2013-12-23 03:33:07 PM

kpaxoid: restore power (bringing in workers from other municipalities and Provinces


Toronto Hydro did bring in some workers from out-of-town.  Haines confirmed it.

homarjr: Most people have their power back by now.


Eh, there's still huge chunks of the city that are black.

There are so many problems with this.  The ice and the downed trees are creating unsafe work environments for TH workers.  Plus, some trees are just snapping now, undoing the work that TH already did in some areas.  There's still a lot of danger and nobody should assume that since their power is back on, that it will stay on.
 
2013-12-23 03:33:25 PM
37 hours without power and counting. There's no water in my building anymore, but my food should be good because it's all out on the balcony encased in snow.

I'm taking refuge at my mothers' place, because cold nights in a freezing, dark flat are not my idea of fun.
 
2013-12-23 03:46:58 PM
All this extra ice has created room in Toronto, Maple Leafs still unable to move the puck out of the defensive zone.
 
2013-12-23 03:49:55 PM
I was in Ottawa for Ice Storm 98. Not as hard hit as Quebec, but pretty bad. Assuming TO got the same level of damage...

.... can Provincial or Federal goverment overrule his fat ass and get the army in there?
 
2013-12-23 03:51:04 PM
Well done subby.
 
2013-12-23 03:51:22 PM
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It's good to be King...muhahahaha....muhahahahaha
 
2013-12-23 03:54:17 PM
Here in Mississauga everything looks covered in glass...but no state of emergency that I'm aware of.

Panic? What panic?
 
2013-12-23 04:07:39 PM
Dat Bend. Seriously those trees are normally straight. Here's a link to more pics from Cambridge Ontario which is nowhere near The big suck  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadicoo/sets/72157638935681725/
 
2013-12-23 04:24:00 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: oldfarthenry: I thought Blob Ford lost his power to declare emergencies when they took away his mayor robe & hat?
And yes - "other" parts of Ontario also got hit by the ice-storm - not just drama-queen Toronto.

Its just that the rest of ontario quit it's biatching and got to the business of cleaning it up.


... Because their municipalities are on the ball.
/ there'd be no shame in calling in the army this time around
 
2013-12-23 04:29:52 PM
In the downtown and fringes all of the elites are gathering together and cleaning up the fallen branches. Out in the gravy-hating burbs things are a mess. Why is it that the people who want less government are the first to whine when the shiat hits the fan?
 
2013-12-23 04:33:36 PM
There are about 200,000 without power in Toronto and 120,000 without power outside of the city.

This map shows the amount of outages across the city itself: http://www.torontohydro.com/sites/electricsystem/PowerOutages/Pages/O u tageMap.aspx
 
2013-12-23 04:36:01 PM

whatshisname: In the downtown and fringes all of the elites are gathering together and cleaning up the fallen branches. Out in the gravy-hating burbs things are a mess. Why is it that the people who want less government are the first to whine when the shiat hits the fan?


It is my experience that stupidity and entitlement go hand-in-hand.

/and no one whines more than the entitled
 
2013-12-23 04:39:40 PM

whatshisname: In the downtown and fringes all of the elites are gathering together and cleaning up the fallen branches. Out in the gravy-hating burbs things are a mess. Why is it that the people who want less government are the first to whine when the shiat hits the fan?


A lot of the downed trees in Etobicoke are mired in power lines.  People have been moving branches that aren't dangerous off the roads, but not everyone has the capacity to cut them up or anything.  Lots of the downed trees are also massive - as in, multiple people working together won't be able to move them, that sort of thing.

Can't speak to downtown, except that I did see a bunch of completely downed trees that nobody was touching around Dufferin/Dupont.  They had completely blocked off some neighbourhoods as they were one-way streets.  Crazy stuff.
 
2013-12-23 05:04:51 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: whatshisname: In the downtown and fringes all of the elites are gathering together and cleaning up the fallen branches. Out in the gravy-hating burbs things are a mess. Why is it that the people who want less government are the first to whine when the shiat hits the fan?

A lot of the downed trees in Etobicoke are mired in power lines.  People have been moving branches that aren't dangerous off the roads, but not everyone has the capacity to cut them up or anything.  Lots of the downed trees are also massive - as in, multiple people working together won't be able to move them, that sort of thing.

Can't speak to downtown, except that I did see a bunch of completely downed trees that nobody was touching around Dufferin/Dupont.  They had completely blocked off some neighbourhoods as they were one-way streets.  Crazy stuff.


Downtown is mostly fine south of Bloor and pretty ok up to St. Clair. But that's partly because the core got less ice and partly because the trees are much bigger in the low-rise and residential neighbourhoods up the hill to the North a bit.
Besides, when trees are down on power lines the clean up should to be done by professionals. Saying it's serious isn't a whining thing. Last I checked the estimate was still 200,000 something households without power, which is around 500,000 people or about 1/5 of the city proper.
/ Basically the impact is either serious, or nothing at all.
// If we get wind this week, it'll get a lot worse.
 
2013-12-23 05:10:00 PM

whatshisname: In the downtown and fringes all of the elites are gathering together and cleaning up the fallen branches. Out in the gravy-hating burbs things are a mess. Why is it that the people who want less government are the first to whine when the shiat hits the fan?


No shiat. I live in the heart of Ford nation. I spent 2 hours clearing ice off my property. The rest of my neighbourhood is a frozen death trap. Fallen branches on the road. More dangling, hanging on by a thread. Hell theres a tree just resting on a fence.
 
2013-12-23 05:18:48 PM
Eastern Ontario got plenty of freezing rain, and I ain't got no garage.

Yesterday morning I spent twenty minutes tapping veery, veery carefully at my car's bodywork with a rubber mallet. The ice cracked away nicely, and no windows were harmed. That stuff was two centimetres thick!

For you Merkins, two centimetres is about four-sevenths of a cubit.
 
2013-12-23 05:19:43 PM
Doubtless Ford will try to turn this into his Falkland Islands.
 
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