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2013-12-23 01:34:31 PM
"As a self-proclaimed 'fierce advocate' of gay equality, President Obama would do well to distance himself from this nonsense and denounce it immediately."

Why don't you apologize for aligning yourself with a party that is a fierce enemy of gay equality first.  Then we'll talk.
 
2013-12-23 02:03:35 PM
"...Promoting the harmful stereotype that gay men are nothing more than sex crazed lechers... "


I am so much more than a sex crazed lecher.

I drink and do drugs, too!
 
2013-12-23 02:07:08 PM
Gay trifecta?
 
2013-12-23 02:07:14 PM
Self-loathing homosexuals are self-loathing.
 
2013-12-23 02:11:02 PM
"At a time when left-wing propagandists are decrying 'Duck Dynasty''s Phil Robertson for equating homosexuality with promiscuity and deviance, Out2Enroll and others should take a look in the mirror and ask if the truth is that they are the ones responsible for promoting such harmful stereotypes."

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-23 02:13:40 PM
Sign me up!  That's hot.

/Republican gays can suck it!
 
2013-12-23 02:14:39 PM
sex crazed

Name any man, straight or gay, going to turn down a beej.

Tune that up wiht 2 consenting men, both loving beeges, and gay, living together.

How do they ever leave the house?
 
2013-12-23 02:14:46 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "At a time when left-wing propagandists are decrying 'Duck Dynasty''s Phil Robertson for equating homosexuality with promiscuity and deviance, Out2Enroll and others should take a look in the mirror and ask if the truth is that they are the ones responsible for promoting such harmful stereotypes."

[i.imgur.com image 460x276]


But it would be racist to point out that Phil Robertson also said the negroes were happier when they were segregated.
 
2013-12-23 02:15:18 PM
"This ad is also an example of the left promoting harmful stereotypes that gay men are nothing more than sex-crazed lechers."

Oh, get HER. Miss Thing is just jealous because of what Log Cabin Republicans look like.
 
2013-12-23 02:15:30 PM
I definitely think it would be more effective if those gay men would take off those underwear.....
 
2013-12-23 02:17:11 PM
So the men in underwear ad was only appealing to gay men? So in other words -everyone is gay or secretly gay?

(eyes roll)
Oh listen to her.
 
2013-12-23 02:17:15 PM
Wait , what?
 
2013-12-23 02:17:36 PM
I'll enroll in the Affordable Care Act that was first promoted by the Heritage Foundation, but you'll never catch me signing on to Obamacare!
 
2013-12-23 02:18:21 PM
"This cynical ad betrays the depths Obamacare advocates will sink to in order to pad their pathetic enrollment numbers,"

Um. If people actually enroll, that's not padding the numbers.
 
2013-12-23 02:19:00 PM
Oh my GAWD lighten the fark up already.

Seriously.  I mean it.  2014, right around the corner.

People are jobless, hungry, wars are being fought, innocents are being killed, gun violence, disease, famine...

And this asshat wants to go off on dudes wearing underwear to promote signing up for health insurance.

Priorities.

Sigh.

/Can I give up on humanity yet?
//I really really am tempted to as of late...
 
msP
2013-12-23 02:19:12 PM
"As a self-proclaimed 'fierce advocate' of gay equality, President Obama would do well to distance himself from this nonsense and denounce it immediately."

I mean, seeing as Obama was in no way related to this, I don't know why he would have to "distance" himself from it. An organization for the LGBT community created a video to promote something they think people should know about and this is Obama's problem how?
 
2013-12-23 02:19:38 PM
Talk about your oxy-morons.
 
2013-12-23 02:20:19 PM
LOL. I saw that video, actually. Part cute, part trite. I couldn't imagine the video getting many viewers. Plus it seemed a bit ... Patronizing? As if gay men are an island if people with no exposure to any current events?

Welcome to the Streisand Effect, Republicans.
 
2013-12-23 02:20:24 PM

Buttknuckle: /Republican gays can suck it!


Based solely on personal anecdotal evidence - gay republicans are very good at the 'suck' part.
 
2013-12-23 02:22:41 PM
What men without underwear may look like. NSFW

Don't know if they're gay or not. I didn't ask.
 
2013-12-23 02:24:38 PM
FTA: This ad is also an example of the left promoting harmful stereotypes that gay men are nothing more than sex-crazed lechers

Right, because there's no reason to bring up sex when you're talking about sexuality.
 
2013-12-23 02:25:08 PM

vudukungfu: sex crazed

Name any man, straight or gay, going to turn down a beej.

Tune that up wiht 2 consenting men, both loving beeges, and gay, living together.

How do they ever leave the house?


It's difficult sometimes, but someone has to pay for the lube, party favors, and fabulous décor.

gingerjet: Buttknuckle: /Republican gays can suck it!

Based solely on personal anecdotal evidence - gay republicans are very good at the 'suck' part.


Second. The problem is when their mouth isn't full, they won't stop yapping.
 
2013-12-23 02:25:49 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "At a time when left-wing propagandists are decrying 'Duck Dynasty''s Phil Robertson for equating homosexuality with promiscuity and deviance, Out2Enroll and others should take a look in the mirror and ask if the truth is that they are the ones responsible for promoting such harmful stereotypes."

[i.imgur.com image 460x276]


Two things:

1)  I haven't heard nearly as many people decrying Phil Robertson's views as I've heard defending them.

2)  I have to agree with the Log Cabin Republicans.  While I question the wisdom of being a member of a party that hates you, I think that if you had a commercial encouraging black people to sign up by saying "Put down that fried chicken and go to the ACA website," it would deserve just as much outcry.  You can't ask to be treated equally and then act like your own stereotype.
 
2013-12-23 02:26:12 PM

gingerjet: Buttknuckle: /Republican gays can suck it!

Based solely on personal anecdotal evidence - gay republicans are very good at the 'suck' part.


go on...

/with pics of your hot self please
 
2013-12-23 02:29:09 PM

Diogenes: "As a self-proclaimed 'fierce advocate' of gay equality, President Obama would do well to distance himself from this nonsense and denounce it immediately."

Why don't you apologize for aligning yourself with a party that is a fierce enemy of gay equality first.  Then we'll talk.



So Obama has to denouce this for some reason, but they're not demanding an apology from Bobby Jindal for his idiotic comments defending the duck dynasty guy?

Log cabin republicans are such a strange group.  They're like if a black guy joined the KKK and then criticized Obama for not doing enough for the black community.  Makes no sense.
 
2013-12-23 02:29:56 PM

ohsoferrety: Second. The problem is when their mouth isn't full, they won't stop yapping.


Challenge accepted.
 
2013-12-23 02:37:39 PM
This thread is going to get out of control. Some of these replies make me think of Patrick Stewart in Jeffrey.
 
2013-12-23 02:38:04 PM

The Lone Gunman: 2)  I have to agree with the Log Cabin Republicans.  While I question the wisdom of being a member of a party that hates you, I think that if you had a commercial encouraging black people to sign up by saying "Put down that fried chicken and go to the ACA website," it would deserve just as much outcry.  You can't ask to be treated equally and then act like your own stereotype.


It was just dudes in their underwear frolicking about, so I don't see it as all that analogous to "put down the fried chicken." Without the explicit mentions of signing up for health insurance, the commercial wasn't all that different from one selling Old Spice, beer, or any number of products - pretty much all of them - we advertise with sex. Shirtless hard bodies catch your eye, regardless of orientation.

It's not necessarily a stereotype like "look at those gays, shoving their junk down our throats again."
 
2013-12-23 02:39:32 PM
Gay Republicans = both of them?
 
2013-12-23 02:40:56 PM
At least they aren't saying the Green Party candidate should be lynched and then dragged dead behind a truck for daring to run against Democrats like Dan Savage did.

Seriously, fark that asshole.
 
2013-12-23 02:42:45 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: This thread is going to get out of control. Some of these replies make me think of Patrick Stewart in Jeffrey.


Nice. I was reminded of the Stewart's paraphrase of gay men on Nightline from the same movie.

//ooh get HER
 
2013-12-23 02:43:41 PM

Somacandra: ecmoRandomNumbers: This thread is going to get out of control. Some of these replies make me think of Patrick Stewart in Jeffrey.

Nice. I was reminded of the Stewart's paraphrase of gay men on Nightline from the same movie.

//ooh get HER


Yeah, that was running through my head. Now I'm going to be thinking it all day. :)
 
2013-12-23 02:43:57 PM

Chummer45: Log cabin republicans are such a strange group.


The LRC used to be rational but they went off the deep end during the Obama administration.  They had an opportunity to be part of the sane wing of the GOP but decided to give that up for whatever reason.  Rather sad really.

/if you really want to see strange - and I hate to admit this since I lean libertarian myself - hit up a gay libertarian group meeting - now there is batshiat crazy
 
2013-12-23 02:47:45 PM
Produce an ad with sexually suggestive, scantly clad women having a good time and we will call it even.
Slutty girls need insurance coverage too.
 
2013-12-23 02:54:56 PM

Pangea: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "At a time when left-wing propagandists are decrying 'Duck Dynasty''s Phil Robertson for equating homosexuality with promiscuity and deviance, Out2Enroll and others should take a look in the mirror and ask if the truth is that they are the ones responsible for promoting such harmful stereotypes."

[i.imgur.com image 460x276]

But it would be racist to point out that Phil Robertson also said the negroes were happier when they were segregated.


I don't consider that racist at all.  It may or may not be a factual statement, assuming it's incorrect - he's simply wrong.  People are wrong all the time.  If he IS correct, then it certainly isn't racist to say it.  If something is TRUE, it's not racist.

I don't know if 'the negroes' where happier when they were segregated - but there are certainly populations that are happier or perform better when diversity is minimized.  It may or may not hold to racial groups (I'm thinking high schools with dress codes, as an example).

Now, if he is wrong but blindly clings to a belief to support an irrational dislike of other races - then he's racist.  Saying more blacks have aids isn't racist.  Saying asians make more money than whites isn't racist either.

But then, that's just my opinion and I'm probably a racist.
 
2013-12-23 02:59:06 PM
Chummer45: Log cabin republicans are such a strange group.  They're like if a black guy joined the KKK and then criticized Obama for not doing enough for the black community.  Makes no sense.

Only if you think the republican party is that group of evil white guys from the Simpsons.  No, not ironically, or as a humorous stereotype, but ACTUALLY like that group of evil white guys from the Simpsons.  That would make you a political moron...but this IS Fark after all.
 
2013-12-23 02:59:46 PM

monoski: Gay Republicans = both of them?


gingerjet: Chummer45: Log cabin republicans are such a strange group.

The LRC used to be rational but they went off the deep end during the Obama administration.  They had an opportunity to be part of the sane wing of the GOP but decided to give that up for whatever reason.  Rather sad really.

/if you really want to see strange - and I hate to admit this since I lean libertarian myself - hit up a gay libertarian group meeting - now there is batshiat crazy


You'd be surprised how many gays are Republicans, but not all gay Republicans are LCR. My Republican "friend" knows better than to say anything to me regarding anything going on politically right now, especially if he wants the D. He's a Massachusetts Republican, though; they're not as nutty as the national Republicans can be and we have some common ground on social issues.

/Socialist
//I like to give him the Yoke of Soviet Aggression
 
2013-12-23 02:59:56 PM

ManRay: Slutty girls need insurance coverage too


GIS that phrase and you get:
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-12-23 03:07:55 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't know if 'the negroes' where happier when they were segregated


Take a wild guess.

Look at the history of race relations and civil rights advancement in this country, and take a wild farking guess.
 
2013-12-23 03:11:00 PM
The irony of the whole situation is that people presume that, racism, bigotry and stereotypes are going to go away. It's not going to happen, ever. Human nature won't allow it. You can continue on with this, it's us against them bs, but, in reality and realisticly. It's never going to happen. As long as other people have something that you want, you're going to go after it. And it's simply that, if you have something I want, I'm going to go after it. No matter how you try rationalize it, no matter how you try to degrade it, if someone has something that you deem to better than what you have, you're going to strive to better it or at least make it look like you have. It's nature in play.

It's too bad people just can't realize this.
It's Darwin at his finest.
 
2013-12-23 03:15:27 PM
FTA:  Gay Republicans denounce gay-themed health care video

It's like dividing by zero.
 
2013-12-23 03:19:47 PM
Gay Republicans = Jews for Hitler
 
2013-12-23 03:21:46 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't know if 'the negroes' where happier when they were segregated

Take a wild guess.

Look at the history of race relations and civil rights advancement in this country, and take a wild farking guess.


The problem with wild guesses is that different people guess different answers.  And then think they are right, as if their guess has value.

I had a lot of trouble finding any solid data on it - but this report would suggest that 'non-white' happiness has generally increased since 1970....http://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/papers/HappinessInequality.pd f

I found some studies that show a positive correlation between happiness and a strong 'racial identity' (presumably if you were segregated by race, you'd have a strong racial identity?).  But other studies show that racially diverse neighborhoods are happier than segregated ones - but as always, correlation != causation and all that jazz.

But a lot of it depends on how you define racially diverse.  Some really 'diverse' cities have large populations of lots of different ethnic/racial groups - but they also have a bunch of small, segregated communities.

On an individual basis there is still a strong preference for marrying within one's own race (depending again on how you define race)....which some might consider segregation.

Anyway, I wouldn't call a guy racist for making a statement that may or may not be wrong.  If it is clearly wrong and he refuses to acknowledge it, then okay, maybe.  Anecdotally,  growing up I saw a lot of self-segregation....the Asian Studies Club was filled with Asian kids.  The Black frat was filled with black kids.

Similarly - I've seen studies that show women were happier (or reported being happier) in the 50s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years- ag o-.html

They had less freedom and options, but that didn't translate into being less happy.
 
2013-12-23 03:22:41 PM

ciberido: FTA:  Gay Republicans denounce gay-themed health care video

It's like dividing by zero.


Lorelle: Gay Republicans = Jews for Hitler


See what I mean? It's inherent in the human nature.
If you think it's not, then by all means, prove me wrong.
 
2013-12-23 03:30:04 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't know if 'the negroes' where happier when they were segregated

Take a wild guess.

Look at the history of race relations and civil rights advancement in this country, and take a wild farking guess.

The problem with wild guesses is that different people guess different answers.  And then think they are right, as if their guess has value.

I had a lot of trouble finding any solid data on it - but this report would suggest that 'non-white' happiness has generally increased since 1970....http://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/papers/HappinessInequality.pd f

I found some studies that show a positive correlation between happiness and a strong 'racial identity' (presumably if you were segregated by race, you'd have a strong racial identity?).  But other studies show that racially diverse neighborhoods are happier than segregated ones - but as always, correlation != causation and all that jazz.

But a lot of it depends on how you define racially diverse.  Some really 'diverse' cities have large populations of lots of different ethnic/racial groups - but they also have a bunch of small, segregated communities.

On an individual basis there is still a strong preference for marrying within one's own race (depending again on how you define race)....which some might consider segregation.

Anyway, I wouldn't call a guy racist for making a statement that may or may not be wrong.  If it is clearly wrong and he refuses to acknowledge it, then okay, maybe.  Anecdotally,  growing up I saw a lot of self-segregation....the Asian Studies Club was filled with Asian kids.  The Black frat was filled with black kids.

Similarly - I've seen studies that show women were happier (or reported being happier) in the 50s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years- ag o-.html

They had less freedom and options, but that didn't translate into being less happy.


Do you really think "happiness" is located on a report?
I'm sure there are people of all races that have what they deem to be happiness. Just because you show a report, does that make them less happy than what the report states? Does it make them more?
You can stuff that report up your ass, it doesn't change how people feel.
 
2013-12-23 03:39:53 PM

vudukungfu: Tune that up wiht 2 consenting men, both loving beeges, and gay, living together.

How do they ever leave the house?


d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net
 
2013-12-23 03:41:19 PM

kerrigand: Fark_Guy_Rob: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't know if 'the negroes' where happier when they were segregated

Take a wild guess.

Look at the history of race relations and civil rights advancement in this country, and take a wild farking guess.

The problem with wild guesses is that different people guess different answers.  And then think they are right, as if their guess has value.

I had a lot of trouble finding any solid data on it - but this report would suggest that 'non-white' happiness has generally increased since 1970....http://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/papers/HappinessInequality.pd f

I found some studies that show a positive correlation between happiness and a strong 'racial identity' (presumably if you were segregated by race, you'd have a strong racial identity?).  But other studies show that racially diverse neighborhoods are happier than segregated ones - but as always, correlation != causation and all that jazz.

But a lot of it depends on how you define racially diverse.  Some really 'diverse' cities have large populations of lots of different ethnic/racial groups - but they also have a bunch of small, segregated communities.

On an individual basis there is still a strong preference for marrying within one's own race (depending again on how you define race)....which some might consider segregation.

Anyway, I wouldn't call a guy racist for making a statement that may or may not be wrong.  If it is clearly wrong and he refuses to acknowledge it, then okay, maybe.  Anecdotally,  growing up I saw a lot of self-segregation....the Asian Studies Club was filled with Asian kids.  The Black frat was filled with black kids.

Similarly - I've seen studies that show women were happier (or reported being happier) in the 50s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years- ag o-.html

They had less freedom and options, but that didn't translate into being less happy.

Do you really think "happiness" is located on a repor ...


Whoa - calm down champ....

My point is - without objective means of quantifying data - the guy you disagree with's opinion is JUST as valid as yours.  I haven't even offered my opinion on whether or not blacks were or were not happier at any point in time.  If you want to ignore reports though, and given you seem to disagree with the original quote - how are we supposed to know you are right while the original guy was wrong?
 
2013-12-23 03:43:53 PM

flondrix: vudukungfu: Tune that up wiht 2 consenting men, both loving beeges, and gay, living together.

How do they ever leave the house?

[d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 318x409]


Thanks for helping me prove my point.
 
2013-12-23 03:45:35 PM

Chummer45: Diogenes: "As a self-proclaimed 'fierce advocate' of gay equality, President Obama would do well to distance himself from this nonsense and denounce it immediately."

Why don't you apologize for aligning yourself with a party that is a fierce enemy of gay equality first.  Then we'll talk.


So Obama has to denouce this for some reason, but they're not demanding an apology from Bobby Jindal for his idiotic comments defending the duck dynasty guy?

Log cabin republicans are such a strange group.  They're like if a black guy joined the KKK and then criticized Obama for not doing enough for the black community.  Makes no sense.


Seriously.  It's one thing to be gay but to believe in "fiscal conservativism" or other such nonsense.  I guess I'd go Independent or Libertarian or something.  But being in the GOP?  No thanks.

If these gays think they can change the GOP from the inside they're either fooling themselves, or have superhuman patience.

This Log Cabin faux outrage is either:

 - a cry for relevance
 - an attempt to appeal to the party that hates them
 - marching orders from the GOP command ("well at least make your gay selves useful")
 
2013-12-23 03:47:00 PM

kerrigand: You can stuff that report up your ass, it doesn't change how people feel.


Stuff a report up my ass and it will change how I feel. About a lot of things.
 
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