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(Science Magazine)   Eggs from urban chicken farmers have more lead than the average store-bought egg. But they're locavore   (news.sciencemag.org) divider line 32
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2013-12-23 01:45:27 PM
No surprise. Most of the soil in urban areas is contaminated after decades of leaded gasoline.
 
2013-12-23 01:45:36 PM
That urban organic co-op downwind from where a smelter operated a century ago sure seemed like a good idea to begin with.

The problem's worse than just long removed factories, we burned lead straight into the lungs of the urban people for 40 years. It was probably the cause of a lot of problems in the past, and still cause the occasional problem today.
 
2013-12-23 01:47:48 PM
Locavore huh? Well my list of words I'm willing to cock punch people over isn't getting any shorter.
 
2013-12-23 01:53:48 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-23 01:58:34 PM
Duh, my home town is on the Superfund clean up list, again. No farking way am I buying anything grown locally.
 
2013-12-23 02:02:37 PM
Factory raised chickens are confined to tiny lead free cages for their entire lives, and dosed with heavy amounts of antibiotics to remove any nasty bugs.
Of course its healthier.

/at least when compared to a chicken farmer who doesn't know what the fark he's doing and lets his animals roam on polluted soil.
 
2013-12-23 02:05:54 PM
I live in Houston and it is the 'petro metro' eating anything from the soils around here is nuts. So that is why we brought in 8 yards of high quality soil, created raised beds and sent our soil into Texas A&M for testing. But we don't have chickens, just veggies.
 
2013-12-23 02:06:18 PM

GodComplex: Locavore huh? Well my list of words I'm willing to cock punch people over isn't getting any shorter.


I like you.
 
2013-12-23 02:08:14 PM

way south: Factory raised chickens are confined to tiny lead free cages for their entire lives, and dosed with heavy amounts of antibiotics to remove any nasty bugs.
Of course its healthier.

/at least when compared to a chicken farmer who doesn't know what the fark he's doing and lets his animals roam on polluted soil.


We use a shotgun approach with antibiotics and our livestock, but we cant farking vaccinate our chickens against salmonella...
 
2013-12-23 02:10:54 PM
Brown or white, single or double yolk, small, medium or big, with or without omega-3, free range or not, organic or not, and now leaded or unleaded. Eggs are getting very complicated.
 
2013-12-23 02:15:02 PM
Lucky for me the guys who produce eggs for the local famers' market are all farms out in the country.
Same with the guy who sells the grass-fed beef.

There are benefits to small-town life.
 
2013-12-23 02:25:29 PM

wildcardjack: That urban organic co-op downwind from where a smelter operated a century ago sure seemed like a good idea to begin with.

The problem's worse than just long removed factories, we burned lead straight into the lungs of the urban people for 40 years. It was probably the cause of a lot of problems in the past, and still cause the occasional problem today.


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasol in e  The future looks a bit better.
 
2013-12-23 02:25:42 PM
I only buy premium unleaded eggs.
 
2013-12-23 02:29:47 PM
There is a place in Brooklyn where they grow all kinds of shiat on the roof of an old factory. Where they made watches and watch batteries.For which mercury was used.

No thanks.
 
2013-12-23 02:34:40 PM
While no safety standards specifically govern lead in eggs, all but one of the city eggs that the researchers tested had concentrations deemed acceptable for other foods-good news. Still, the researchers estimated that eating an egg a day with the highest lead concentration they found, 167 parts per billion (ppb), could increase kids' blood lead levels by an amount linked to a loss of roughly one IQ point.

So out of all the eggs they tested, ONE had unacceptable levels of lead. And if your kid eats one of those specific eggs every day they may see a loss of one IQ point.

WTF is with the idiot lead scare stories today? First it was OMG there is infinitesimal levels of lead in christmas tree lights, now this. geez people.
 
2013-12-23 02:37:44 PM
EGG THREAD!!!!


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2013-12-23 02:37:52 PM
Summary: We tested some stuff in NYC and applied our findings to THE WORLD!!!ONEONEONEoneoneeleven!1!1
 
2013-12-23 02:39:58 PM

Dinki: While no safety standards specifically govern lead in eggs, all but one of the city eggs that the researchers tested had concentrations deemed acceptable for other foods-good news. Still, the researchers estimated that eating an egg a day with the highest lead concentration they found, 167 parts per billion (ppb), could increase kids' blood lead levels by an amount linked to a loss of roughly one IQ point.

So out of all the eggs they tested, ONE had unacceptable levels of lead. And if your kid eats one of those specific eggs every day they may see a loss of one IQ point.

WTF is with the idiot lead scare stories today? First it was OMG there is infinitesimal levels of lead in christmas tree lights, now this. geez people.


When was the last time you ate a christmas tree light?
 
2013-12-23 02:54:37 PM
There's a joke somewhere involving alchemy and lead eggs turning into golden eggs.

/feeling inadiquite
 
2013-12-23 03:14:22 PM

SpdrJay: I only buy premium unleaded eggs.


Me too, my dietitian keeps telling me the higher ovatane does nothing for me since I can't efficiently process it, but I can tell by my mood after I eat them that it's better for me.
 
2013-12-23 03:17:53 PM

This Looks Fun: SpdrJay: I only buy premium unleaded eggs.

Me too, my dietitian keeps telling me the higher ovatane does nothing for me since I can't efficiently process it, but I can tell by my mood after I eat them that it's better for me.


I'm so old I need the leaded eggs to keep from knocking.
 
2013-12-23 03:30:24 PM

talkertopc: Brown or white, single or double yolk, small, medium or big, with or without omega-3, free range or not, organic or not, and now leaded or unleaded. Eggs are getting very complicated.


I like my diesel eggs
 
2013-12-23 03:51:08 PM

Cyno01: way south: Factory raised chickens are confined to tiny lead free cages for their entire lives, and dosed with heavy amounts of antibiotics to remove any nasty bugs.
Of course its healthier.

/at least when compared to a chicken farmer who doesn't know what the fark he's doing and lets his animals roam on polluted soil.

We use a shotgun approach with antibiotics and our livestock, but we cant farking vaccinate our chickens against salmonella...


You can vaccinate (against Salmonella and Bronchitis specifically), but that doesn't mean everyone will.
Corners to cut and all that.

/iirc they're supposed to vaccinate chicks before shipping to any grow out operation.
/Assuming the home farmer properly sourced his animals and didn't just get them from a friend of a friend.
 
2013-12-23 04:02:03 PM

Dinki: WTF is with the idiot lead scare stories today? First it was OMG there is infinitesimal levels of lead in christmas tree lights, now this. geez people.


"Lead scares" are a holdover from the 70s, when lead was actually a big enough problem to be noticeable - leaded paints (especially in houses and kids' toys), gasoline, pencils, makeup, water pipes, solder, and shot/ammunition, just to name 8 common applications.

Most people have come across "lead paint" warnings when buying or renting (or selling) a living space - my old landlord is being fined by DC for failing to have us sign the lead disclosure forms along with our lease. We know enough to know that "lead is bad", but not enough to know how much is enough to be harmful (eat a pellet a day for a year or something).

Plus, CA just got a billion-dollar settlement out of Big Lead, so it must be pretty serious.
 
2013-12-23 04:17:40 PM

Dr Dreidel: Dinki: WTF is with the idiot lead scare stories today? First it was OMG there is infinitesimal levels of lead in christmas tree lights, now this. geez people.

"Lead scares" are a holdover from the 70s, when lead was actually a big enough problem to be noticeable - leaded paints (especially in houses and kids' toys), gasoline, pencils, makeup, water pipes, solder, and shot/ammunition, just to name 8 common applications.

Most people have come across "lead paint" warnings when buying or renting (or selling) a living space - my old landlord is being fined by DC for failing to have us sign the lead disclosure forms along with our lease. We know enough to know that "lead is bad", but not enough to know how much is enough to be harmful (eat a pellet a day for a year or something).

Plus, CA just got a billion-dollar settlement out of Big Lead, so it must be pretty serious.


Fun fact: the company I work for was implicated in the lawsuit. One of the companies we acquired used to have a subsidiary that produced items with lead paint. . Thing is, we bought this company 20 years ago, which was about 30 years after the subsidiary had stopped producing anything with lead, and 20 years after they had sold off the subsidiary. So apparantly the judge decided that we are still liable for something a subsidiary did that we never had any association with 50 years ago.
 
2013-12-23 04:28:57 PM
give me doughnuts:
When was the last time you ate a christmas tree light?

i.dailymail.co.uk

So, apparently it CAN be done!
 
2013-12-23 04:42:19 PM
Next you'll be telling me fluoride bad too.
 
2013-12-23 05:23:22 PM
more per  PounB ?


/bit of a streach
 
2013-12-23 05:45:54 PM

way south: Cyno01: way south: Factory raised chickens are confined to tiny lead free cages for their entire lives, and dosed with heavy amounts of antibiotics to remove any nasty bugs.
Of course its healthier.

/at least when compared to a chicken farmer who doesn't know what the fark he's doing and lets his animals roam on polluted soil.

We use a shotgun approach with antibiotics and our livestock, but we cant farking vaccinate our chickens against salmonella...

You can vaccinate (against Salmonella and Bronchitis specifically), but that doesn't mean everyone will.
Corners to cut and all that.

/iirc they're supposed to vaccinate chicks before shipping to any grow out operation.
/Assuming the home farmer properly sourced his animals and didn't just get them from a friend of a friend.


I dont know what a grow out operation is, being on the kitchen side of things as opposed to the farm side, but the USDA doesnt require salmonella vaccination in commercial poultry operations at all as far as i know. There was talk about it after the last big egg recall, but it would add a couple of pennies to the price of a carton of eggs or pound of chicken, so were stuck either buying pasteurized shell eggs (which is a proprietary patented process) which are like a dollar more per carton, or like in the case of many food service operations ive worked at, buying cartons of pasteurized liquid eggs, which are mediocre at best and obviously not usable for anything requiring separated eggs. Salmonella is the #1 food borne illness in the US, with almost a million cases every year, resulting in hundreds of deaths. In the UK, where supermarkets will only buy eggs from vaccinated flocks, they had less than 500 cases of salmonella in humans in 2010.

But hey, at least our chickens wont get autism.
 
2013-12-23 07:37:34 PM

GodComplex: Locavore huh? Well my list of words I'm willing to cock punch people over isn't getting any shorter.


Exactly!  I will not rest until 100% of my food comes wrapped in cellophane.
 
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2013-12-23 09:30:50 PM
The bottom line is that EVERYONE has some level of lead in their bodies/blood stream.  The eggs have levels which will have no impact on one's health.
 
2013-12-24 12:20:45 PM

Watubi: GodComplex: Locavore huh? Well my list of words I'm willing to cock punch people over isn't getting any shorter.

Exactly!  I will not rest until 100% of my food comes wrapped in cellophane.


Moar like artisan parchment paper (100% vegan), amirite?
 
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