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2013-12-23 09:42:17 AM  
11 votes:
This is the kind of ignorance that we all need to ridicule in the open.  We need to make sure people understand that it's not OK to be this ignorant, that we expect better from our fellow citizens.  For too long now, people have taken pride in being ignorant.  It's now to the point where someone like this feels comfortable spouting off in public about things he or she has no idea about.  It' time for us to tip the scales back to where people should be ashamed to be so clueless.
2013-12-23 09:44:57 AM  
6 votes:
I'm pretty sure the real reason this is continuing is because it's a Slow News Week in politics.

This whole thing is Really Simple: You have the right to say whatever the fark you want. However, anyone can say whatever the fark they want in response. Also, any private business can decide do do whatever they want based on your speech. No government entity is allowed to act based on your speech (assuming it is not violent in nature) - this is all the First Amendment protects.

Calling gays goatfarkers, and being called a bigot are the same thing as far as the first amendment rights are concerned. And being offensive on TV and then getting canned is, again, both legal and expected. It's the Hank Williams Jr Monday Night Football thing all over again - be repugnant, get fired for it, deal with it. Freedom of Speech is not Freedom from Consequences.

Also, I find it pretty sad and ironic that the guy who said Blacks were happy under Jim Crow is being compared to Rosa Parks.
2013-12-23 09:39:55 AM  
6 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


He can think and say whatever he wants. And his employer can fire him for it. This has nothing to do with the First Amendment (no government action at play) and it has nothing to do with oppression. It's a simple case of a company deciding it doesn't want to have a homophobe/racist as the face of the company.
2013-12-23 09:40:26 AM  
5 votes:
Does anyone remember that fateful day when Rosa Parks signed a lucrative contract with a morality clause saying she wouldn't ride at the front of public transportation equipment?
2013-12-23 10:38:30 AM  
4 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


No one is arresting him or sending him to a labor camp, or lynching him from a  tree. He uttered some vile comments and his boss had every right to sanction him for it. If he was half the manly-man he claims to be, he'd man up and just admit that he pushed things too far.

Why are conservatives such bullies and yet they scream like stuck pigs if they encounter even the slightest bit of resistance?

And, if your religion compels you to be a butthole towards Humanity, don't expect Humanity to respect your butthole-empowering religion.
2013-12-23 10:04:18 AM  
4 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 308x260]


I love the fact that the "National Council for Freedom and Enterprise" wants to force a business to employ someone on political grounds, someone who potentially hurts that company's business.  FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS!
2013-12-23 09:42:45 AM  
4 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


They're not impermissible, they're just backwards, ignorant, and bigoted. He has the right to voice his opinion on this all day every day. And we, and his bosses at A&E, have the right to criticize and naysay his dumbass. See, the first amendment doesn't protect you from criticism, just from being jailed or penalized by the state for what you say.

Now, as I understand it, this may have been impermissible in Canada under their hate speech laws.

/IANAL
/Especially in Canada
2013-12-23 09:22:57 AM  
4 votes:
I had never heard of Duck Dynasty before this brouhaha, I wish I could go back to those days.
2013-12-23 10:23:04 AM  
3 votes:

A Cave Geek: WQait...just wait...then they'll turn around and say that we should force people to ONLY buy from conservatives...because jeebus.


They define 'good' and 'bad' from a personal standpoint, not an absolute.  The free market is good, except for oil and farm subsidies and properly taxing capital gains.  Freedom of speech is good except when other people get to say things they don't like, including criticizing what they've said previously.  Government handouts are bad, except when they are down on their luck and hungry.

It's not a majority of people, it's not even a majority of the right.  It's just a very loud, vocal group of asshats who believe they are entitled to everything they want, no matter what it costs you.  And of course, all the people who are willing to exploit that group for money and power.
2013-12-23 10:10:39 AM  
3 votes:

Whodat: Saw this was on the AJC website and was worried until I found out that the moron is from Illinois.

BTW, A&E knew of his beliefs when they hired him. It is hard for them to have any credible outrage this far into it. I wonder how many GLBT's actually watch the show. I would bet that they were/are big in the bear community.


It's not so much that. You are welcome to have beliefs, but when you start expressing them, and that causes a PR problem, then it's a problem. A&E isn't OUTRAGED, they're doing damage control.
2013-12-23 09:45:04 AM  
3 votes:

UNC_Samurai: Nobody gets poorer as a result of this incident.


Except for our public discourse.
2013-12-23 09:40:53 AM  
3 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


Some day, the arrest report for Phil Robertson will be enshrined in its rightful place next to the arrest report for Rosa Parks.

What's that? He hasn't been arrested? Well what's he waiting for?
2013-12-23 09:40:18 AM  
3 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


Weird, no one arrested him.  What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.
2013-12-23 11:05:30 AM  
2 votes:

FoxKelfonne: Sigh.... can we just like, start calling these people "Republican Christians" or some other name so they can stop making actual Christians look bad? I mean, given Jesus' stance on a lot of things in the bible, I would imagine that he would totally not be down with persecuting anyone. (Except maybe money changers)

/Going to start my own religion with two major rules:
// Don't be a dick and mind your own business.


Sorry. If the discussion of Muslims has taught me anything, unless all Christians stand up and repudiate the extremists in their bunch, then this is their fault.
2013-12-23 10:26:48 AM  
2 votes:
If we allow his comments to stand, homosexuals and blacks will be subject to the oppression of a rich redneck saying offensive things. On the other hand, if we allow him to be kicked off the show it is a clear signal that Christians must abandon their religious beliefs or face the full wrath of A&E.

Clearly the only rational path forward is to permanently ban all reality TV.
2013-12-23 10:23:53 AM  
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Pants full of macaroni!!: It's an actual ad that showed up on this very website.

Someone's going to have to explain that to me, then. When he is literally following his Bible - saying grace before meals, praying in his prophet's name, etc - A&E had no problems. Only when he went "off-book" did they object, and he still hasn't even been fired.

// so someone tell me now how gay is the worst thing in the Bible, despite being mentioned twice - as often as the commandment that you must send away a mother bird before you may collect her eggs


Because it's gross and there are a lot of self loathing closeted gay christians.
2013-12-23 10:21:04 AM  
2 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: It's an actual ad that showed up on this very website.


Someone's going to have to explain that to me, then. When he is literally following his Bible - saying grace before meals, praying in his prophet's name, etc - A&E had no problems. Only when he went "off-book" did they object, and he still hasn't even been fired.

// so someone tell me now how gay is the worst thing in the Bible, despite being mentioned twice - as often as the commandment that you must send away a mother bird before you may collect her eggs
2013-12-23 10:16:24 AM  
2 votes:

Whodat: Saw this was on the AJC website and was worried until I found out that the moron is from Illinois.

BTW, A&E knew of his beliefs when they hired him. It is hard for them to have any credible outrage this far into it. I wonder how many GLBT's actually watch the show. I would bet that they were/are big in the bear community.


You can know that someone is against homosexuality in principle, and still think that they might not give a lengthy interview in an international magazine talking about vaginas, anuses, and the joy of pre-civil rights blacks in the south. I'm with A&E here.

Further, the A&E brand is bigger than one channel. I guarantee you plenty of gays, lesbians, or allies watch, for instance, Lifetime. Perhaps after review keeping that audience is worth more than a few million "real Americans."
2013-12-23 10:10:56 AM  
2 votes:

UNC_Samurai: glmorrs1: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

They're not impermissible, they're just backwards, ignorant, and bigoted. He has the right to voice his opinion on this all day every day. And we, and his bosses at A&E, have the right to criticize and naysay his dumbass. See, the first amendment doesn't protect you from criticism, just from being jailed or penalized by the state for what you say.

Now, as I understand it, this may have been impermissible in Canada under their hate speech laws.

/IANAL
/Especially in Canada

It's a shame there's no efficient way to look up a troll's posting history, because I'd love to parse all the Dixie Chick threads from a decade ago and see what the chump had to say then.


We'd just have more alts.

Though the practice of Alt-making seems to have waned, I suspect because the site has gotten more popular.  With a large enough mass of people to hide in and you don't need to change your name to always have someone who missed or forgot about your epic threadshiatting 2 weeks ago.
2013-12-23 10:00:14 AM  
2 votes:

mayIFark: Lackofname: mayIFark: Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.

This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens

Sort of like the Chik-FIl-A day.

If I recalled correctly, on Chik-Fil-A day, people lined up to buy their sandwiches. Unless they are franchises where the trademark holders does not get a portion of the total sale, I am not sure how they compare.


What? It's really simple.

Chik Fil A makes a statement. People express displeasure. REAL MURKIANS go "DOn't you silence religion!" and swarm in flocks to buy their crap.

Duck Dynasty guy makes a statement. People express displeasure. REAL MURKANS go "Don't you silence religion!" and swarm in flocks to buy their merchandise.
2013-12-23 09:55:52 AM  
2 votes:

Rascal King: The guy claimed that black people were happier under Jim Crow laws, so naturally compare him to Rosa Parks. This is really just about a segment of the population freaking out because their racism and bigotry is starting to have major consequences.


Conservatives: "How DARE you judge us by the content of our character, when you can plainly tell by our being white Christians that we're good people?"
2013-12-23 09:54:50 AM  
2 votes:

monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.


Because Gilbert Godfried didn't say something insulting about a group of people that a good portion of the United States and high ranking members of a major political party have openly come out and said they wish they would die.
2013-12-23 09:53:05 AM  
2 votes:

glmorrs1: monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.

Not manufactured at all, conservatives just seem to have this natural persecution complex. In their minds they are always the victim, no matter what.


It's their penchant for absolutism.  Anything less than total victory is defeat to them.  Anything less than total command and control over every uterus in the world is a conservative's version of 'nightmare'.
2013-12-23 09:47:21 AM  
2 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.


Because as we all know, Christians are dramatically underrepresented in Congress in that there is one open atheist and a Muslim or two.
2013-12-23 09:42:59 AM  
2 votes:

EvilEgg: I had never heard of Duck Dynasty before this brouhaha, I wish I could go back to those days.


It was like a less-pervasive Honey-Boo-Boo type of show.  It was popular enough for ESPN's morning show to dress like them for Halloween, but I heard about it more often from people on the internet, complaining about people watching that crap.

I think it was another reality show that stretched 15 minutes of fame into 20, then when the Q-rating started evaporating their publicist or handler brought up the idea of ginning up controversy.  They tell Phil to go off-script a bit and talk about whatever he feels like, and this is the result.

And what happens as a result of these controversial remarks?  A&E gets a bit of a novelty ratings bump, a handful of merchandise will get sold because of the outrage-industrial-complex stoking conservative ire into a backlash, the dude who said the stupid shiat will get a handful of lucrative speaking engagements from people who sort of agree with things he says (hell, he's likely to end up as a Guest of Honor at CPAC).

Nobody gets poorer as a result of this incident.
2013-12-23 03:35:30 PM  
1 votes:

MyrnaMinkoff: palelizard: MyrnaMinkoff: glmorrs1: YodaTuna: MyrnaMinkoff: I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.

If a major decision in your life is that you have decided you no longer want to eat at Cracker Barrel, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview.

Have you ever tried their country ham or biscuits and gravy? Cause I'm just saying, giving that up would be a major life decision for me.

/I sound fat

HASH BROWN CASSEROLE. But still, arteries.

Ugh, their gravy is awful.  The whole point of decent sausage gravy is that you sop it up with your biscuit, then eat them together.  Cracker Barrel's gravy just sits there on top of the biscuit like mayo on a ritz cracker, or that embarrassing dinty-moore-beef-stew crap your dog just took on your mother-in-law's new hardwood floors.

I wouldn't know, because I will never eat the culinary abomination that is white gravy. From anywhere.


You mean bechamel sauce? One of the four "mother sauces" that make up the basis for French cuisine?

Because it's delicious.
2013-12-23 12:09:49 PM  
1 votes:
Can we all take a moment here and focus on the word Christian, what the hell does it mean in today's America?

If A&E is trying to silence Christians and all Christians agee that what this douchegbag says is right then America is at best only half Christian, because support for marriage equality is right around 50%, so if you support marriage equality you are not a Christian according to those who proclaim the loudest that they speak for Christians.  Congratulations assholes you choose to define yourselfs right out of the majority.

And it gets better with the increased acceptance of marriage equality with the younger generations, in ten years you all will be a minority.  Hope you look forward to the days when you actually do lose the power you have now, maybe your perscution fantasy will be a nice self fulfilling prophecy when you become more strident leading more people to ignore you causing you to be more strident leading to fewer and fewer people in the pews every week.

I think I might have to start telling people who ask me are you a Christian, nope I believe in the equality of all people.
2013-12-23 12:02:07 PM  
1 votes:
Wow. Equating the guy who thinks Ms. Parks should still be sitting in the back of the bus with Ms. Parks herself? That's a special kind of stupid right there.
2013-12-23 11:57:00 AM  
1 votes:

spongeboob: DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.

Really comparing blacks in South Africa to Christians in America?


I thought that was pretty impressive. It's not just any old troll who comes up with something like that.
Nice to see somebody not just phoning it in for a change.
2013-12-23 11:13:27 AM  
1 votes:
I have no doubt that, as a true Christian, Phil will place his love of God above all things and immediately sever all ties to A&E, thereby setting an example for his family and all Americans that faith is more important than money. To do otherwise would just make him look like a whore every time he mentions God on the show.
2013-12-23 11:10:35 AM  
1 votes:
That the conservative idea of social protest is buying camouflaged doodads and chicken sandwiches tells you all you need to know about the place Christianity really holds in their lives.  I suppose giving away your money is fairly Christ-like, but to venal multi-millionaires, not so much.
2013-12-23 11:02:28 AM  
1 votes:
 I'm not even wasting my time on this one.
I just tell people to recall everything they said in regards to the Dixie Chicks being black listed for their views and will be my response.
2013-12-23 11:01:02 AM  
1 votes:

Whodat: They may just damage control themselves out of a top rated show. I would bet dollars to donuts that there are a few other networks just drooling over a chance to cash in on that franchise.


Donuts are tasty, but they make me queasy. Anyway, do you think they can just hop right over to another network just like that? Contracts do not work that way!
2013-12-23 10:45:37 AM  
1 votes:

IlGreven: /Or, you could've gone the Sarah Palin hypocrite route...calling for Bashir's firing when he said mean things about her, then turning around and saying "Free speech is an endangered species" when someone she liked was fired for saying mean things about others.


Hell, if you want to go the Sarah Palin route, just point out that she personally:

Fired a Librarian who refused to censor books (the librarian was retained after public outcry);

Fired a police chief because he didn't agree with her on bar-closing times and gun control laws;

Fired the State safety commissioner because he didn't agree that he should fire a state trooper just because Palin didn't like the trooper.
2013-12-23 10:40:04 AM  
1 votes:
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2013-12-23 10:32:18 AM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


And where were you when Martin Bashir and Alec Baldwin uttering "impermissible thoughts" out loud?  Surely you were defending their right to say such naughty things without repercussions?

*crickets*

/Or, you could've gone the Sarah Palin hypocrite route...calling for Bashir's firing when he said mean things about her, then turning around and saying "Free speech is an endangered species" when someone she liked was fired for saying mean things about others.
//Hey, Sarah, you wanna know why "Free speech is an endangered species"? Because you're shooting at it from a helicopter!
2013-12-23 10:27:05 AM  
1 votes:

palelizard: A Cave Geek: WQait...just wait...then they'll turn around and say that we should force people to ONLY buy from conservatives...because jeebus.

They define 'good' and 'bad' from a personal standpoint, not an absolute.  The free market is good, except for oil and farm subsidies and properly taxing capital gains.  Freedom of speech is good except when other people get to say things they don't like, including criticizing what they've said previously.  Government handouts are bad, except when they are down on their luck and hungry.

It's not a majority of people, it's not even a majority of the right.  It's just a very loud, vocal group of asshats who believe they are entitled to everything they want, no matter what it costs you.  And of course, all the people who are willing to exploit that group for money and power.



Governing by religion is good, as long as it's the "right" religion.  Dunno how most 'muricans would welcome religion into gov't if it was like, Islam or something.  I suspect they'd change their tune right quick.
2013-12-23 10:16:25 AM  
1 votes:

mayIFark: OK, sure. The difference would be that, in the case of DD, they actually make the party they are opposing richer.


I think that's just starting to strike some of these folks. Maybe there's a FW:FW:FW: e-mail enlightening them.

Last night, I went to the Large Corporate Grocery/Household Goods store in my Redneck Oregon mountain town.

In the last couple of days, the store moved all of its DD merchandise to a massive display right inside the front door (up until that point, I thought the DD chia pets were photoshopped jokes -- who knew?).

The shelves were about half-empty. Two couples who didn't appear to know each other were having a heated argument in front of the display.

One couple had about a 1/2-basketful of DD merchandise. The man from the other couple was yelling at him, saying the money went to A&E, so he shouldn't be supporting them. The buyer responded that Phil's family gets the money, too, and that buy wearing the apparel people will know that you stand in support of Phil. The wives just gave each other nasty looks.

As the fight raged, people nervously inspected the goods and occasionally took one from the shelves sheepishly and put it in their basket.
2013-12-23 10:12:51 AM  
1 votes:

MyrnaMinkoff: glmorrs1: YodaTuna: MyrnaMinkoff: I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.

If a major decision in your life is that you have decided you no longer want to eat at Cracker Barrel, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview.

Have you ever tried their country ham or biscuits and gravy? Cause I'm just saying, giving that up would be a major life decision for me.

/I sound fat

HASH BROWN CASSEROLE. But still, arteries.


Ugh, their gravy is awful.  The whole point of decent sausage gravy is that you sop it up with your biscuit, then eat them together.  Cracker Barrel's gravy just sits there on top of the biscuit like mayo on a ritz cracker, or that embarrassing dinty-moore-beef-stew crap your dog just took on your mother-in-law's new hardwood floors.
2013-12-23 10:07:57 AM  
1 votes:

xrayspx: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 308x260]

I love the fact that the "National Council for Freedom and Enterprise" wants to force a business to employ someone on political grounds, someone who potentially hurts that company's business.  FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS!


WQait...just wait...then they'll turn around and say that we should force people to ONLY buy from conservatives...because jeebus.
2013-12-23 10:05:29 AM  
1 votes:

YodaTuna: DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.

I'm sure no one is going to argue that a minority can't oppress a majority, but do you really think Christians are oppressed in the United States?


There is a minority of Christianity that is oppressed.  You see, when you prevent them from controlling your life and interrupt their 'do as I say, not as I do' attempts to subjugate your free will, you're oppressing them.  Americans are promised life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and they won't be happy until everyone is as equally miserable as them. It's like a spiritual Harrison Bergeron.
2013-12-23 10:04:44 AM  
1 votes:

Lackofname: mayIFark: Lackofname: mayIFark: Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.

This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens

Sort of like the Chik-FIl-A day.

If I recalled correctly, on Chik-Fil-A day, people lined up to buy their sandwiches. Unless they are franchises where the trademark holders does not get a portion of the total sale, I am not sure how they compare.

What? It's really simple.

Chik Fil A makes a statement. People express displeasure. REAL MURKIANS go "DOn't you silence religion!" and swarm in flocks to buy their crap.

Duck Dynasty guy makes a statement. People express displeasure. REAL MURKANS go "Don't you silence religion!" and swarm in flocks to buy their merchandise.


OK, sure. The difference would be that, in the case of DD, they actually make the party they are opposing richer.
2013-12-23 10:03:28 AM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


Are you my cousin? Because I have a cousin that is exactly that retarded.
2013-12-23 10:03:04 AM  
1 votes:
Pants full of macaroni!!:

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So, the 3 seasons of him ending every episode by saying grace ("in Jesus' name we pray"), is that the "silencing Christianity" part; or is it only once he started spewing the Gospel According to Saint Bastard that A&E was silencing the One True Faith?

// I know this isn't your pic, PFOM
2013-12-23 10:01:07 AM  
1 votes:

UNC_Samurai: And what happens as a result of these controversial remarks?  A&E gets a bit of a novelty ratings bump, a handful of merchandise will get sold because of the outrage-industrial-complex stoking conservative ire into a backlash, the dude who said the stupid shiat will get a handful of lucrative speaking engagements from people who sort of agree with things he says (hell, he's likely to end up as a Guest of Honor at CPAC).

Nobody gets poorer as a result of this incident.


You missed a key part of the article:

This is Ian Bayne. He says the "Duck Dynasty" patriarch is the Rosa Parks of our generation. (Via IanBayne.com)

In a fundraising email to supporters, he wrote:

"In December 1955, Rosa Parks took a stand against an unjust societal persecution of black people, and in December 2013, Robertson took a stand against persecution of Christians .... What Parks did was courageous, What Mr. Robertson did was courageous too."


Politicians are hitching a ride on the gravy train, too.
2013-12-23 09:58:08 AM  
1 votes:
By the way, can this story die already so that we can go back to the Indian diplomat chick story?

At least that chick is hot and she had a nudie scene in that film.

/I'm getting tired of irrelevant shiats gettings all the attentions, meanwhile south Sudan is evacuating Americans and we don't even have a single link to that
2013-12-23 09:57:41 AM  
1 votes:

YodaTuna: MyrnaMinkoff: I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.

If a major decision in your life is that you have decided you no longer want to eat at Cracker Barrel, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview.


Right? I feel like your arteries would decide for you.
2013-12-23 09:56:08 AM  
1 votes:

mayIFark: YodaTuna: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

Weird, no one arrested him.   What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.

People do. All you have to do is change the subject in question. Its been compared many times (for being the most recent two), but it's worth repeating. If you change Pat Robertson with Martin Bashir you will see how 1st amendment does not apply.


Well, yeah, but I think you're forgetting that liberals and further more such as.
2013-12-23 09:56:03 AM  
1 votes:

glmorrs1: DeathBySmiley: Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.

Non sequiturial fun fact: In the state of Tennessee, it's illegal for an atheist to run for, or hold, public office.


Several states have such laws on the book. Clearly if anyone wanted to run as atheist in those states the laws would be shot down faster than you could raise the point.
2013-12-23 09:55:42 AM  
1 votes:

MyrnaMinkoff: I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.


If a major decision in your life is that you have decided you no longer want to eat at Cracker Barrel, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview.
2013-12-23 09:54:50 AM  
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DeathBySmiley: Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.


Non sequiturial fun fact: In the state of Tennessee, it's illegal for an atheist to run for, or hold, public office.
2013-12-23 09:54:30 AM  
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Why would the Puritans found this country if not to get away from thoughts of anuses?  People wouldn't keep making controversial statements like this if the gays would just stop being gay.  Is it easier for a few to change or many? Study it out.  Exactly.
2013-12-23 09:51:32 AM  
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glmorrs1: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

They're not impermissible, they're just backwards, ignorant, and bigoted. He has the right to voice his opinion on this all day every day. And we, and his bosses at A&E, have the right to criticize and naysay his dumbass. See, the first amendment doesn't protect you from criticism, just from being jailed or penalized by the state for what you say.

Now, as I understand it, this may have been impermissible in Canada under their hate speech laws.

/IANAL
/Especially in Canada


It's a shame there's no efficient way to look up a troll's posting history, because I'd love to parse all the Dixie Chick threads from a decade ago and see what the chump had to say then.
2013-12-23 09:51:30 AM  
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monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.


Not manufactured at all, conservatives just seem to have this natural persecution complex. In their minds they are always the victim, no matter what.
2013-12-23 09:51:18 AM  
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the manufactured-ness of this issue makes me want to put on my tinfoil hat, let's get everyone arguing about black people and gay people forget about that wealth inequality stuff you were all talking about.
2013-12-23 09:50:11 AM  
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I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.
2013-12-23 09:50:09 AM  
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DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.


I'm sure no one is going to argue that a minority can't oppress a majority, but do you really think Christians are oppressed in the United States?
2013-12-23 09:50:04 AM  
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YodaTuna: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

Weird, no one arrested him.   What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.


People do. All you have to do is change the subject in question. Its been compared many times (for being the most recent two), but it's worth repeating. If you change Pat Robertson with Martin Bashir you will see how 1st amendment does not apply.
2013-12-23 09:50:02 AM  
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Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.
2013-12-23 09:50:01 AM  
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Wigger be drunk with power but at least he ain't no cracka' quitta
2013-12-23 09:49:12 AM  
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Hey, I just gave some money to charity..... I guess I'm this generations Jesus.
2013-12-23 09:48:52 AM  
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mayIFark: Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.

This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens


Sort of like the Chik-FIl-A day.
2013-12-23 09:48:29 AM  
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Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.
2013-12-23 09:46:34 AM  
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Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.


This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens
2013-12-23 09:45:46 AM  
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jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


I know! A guy should have the right to talk at length about his preference for vaginas over anuses in an international magazine, without them icky gays thinking it gives them right to say anything. What makes them people think talking about sexuality is acceptable in America?
2013-12-23 09:40:09 AM  
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This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.
2013-12-23 09:40:03 AM  
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jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


You seem to not want people to be able to show their dismay for what he says. Their are consequences for what we say and do in life, learn to deal with them.
2013-12-23 09:39:31 AM  
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2013-12-23 09:35:49 AM  
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fta This is Ian Bayne. He says the "Duck Dynasty" patriarch is the Rosa Parks of our generation.

Apparently, our generation is ignorant and stupid.
 
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