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2013-12-23 09:22:57 AM  
I had never heard of Duck Dynasty before this brouhaha, I wish I could go back to those days.
 
2013-12-23 09:32:29 AM  
It's the bottom of the hour. Time to break out this gif again.
 
2013-12-23 09:33:38 AM  
Edit: trying again.
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2013-12-23 09:34:54 AM  
The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.
 
2013-12-23 09:35:49 AM  
fta This is Ian Bayne. He says the "Duck Dynasty" patriarch is the Rosa Parks of our generation.

Apparently, our generation is ignorant and stupid.
 
2013-12-23 09:36:12 AM  
Duck Dynasty:  The "Snooki and J-Wow" of the redneck world.
 
2013-12-23 09:36:19 AM  
give me the right to compare gay people to goat farkers without consequences or give me death. ammiright?
 
2013-12-23 09:36:42 AM  
I'm currently sitting down, so I'm pretty much Rosa Parks.
 
2013-12-23 09:37:28 AM  
The headline pretty much describes a news story that comes out Every Day.
 
2013-12-23 09:39:31 AM  
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2013-12-23 09:39:55 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


He can think and say whatever he wants. And his employer can fire him for it. This has nothing to do with the First Amendment (no government action at play) and it has nothing to do with oppression. It's a simple case of a company deciding it doesn't want to have a homophobe/racist as the face of the company.
 
2013-12-23 09:40:03 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


You seem to not want people to be able to show their dismay for what he says. Their are consequences for what we say and do in life, learn to deal with them.
 
2013-12-23 09:40:09 AM  
This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.
 
2013-12-23 09:40:18 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


Weird, no one arrested him.  What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.
 
2013-12-23 09:40:26 AM  
Does anyone remember that fateful day when Rosa Parks signed a lucrative contract with a morality clause saying she wouldn't ride at the front of public transportation equipment?
 
2013-12-23 09:40:53 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


Some day, the arrest report for Phil Robertson will be enshrined in its rightful place next to the arrest report for Rosa Parks.

What's that? He hasn't been arrested? Well what's he waiting for?
 
2013-12-23 09:42:17 AM  
This is the kind of ignorance that we all need to ridicule in the open.  We need to make sure people understand that it's not OK to be this ignorant, that we expect better from our fellow citizens.  For too long now, people have taken pride in being ignorant.  It's now to the point where someone like this feels comfortable spouting off in public about things he or she has no idea about.  It' time for us to tip the scales back to where people should be ashamed to be so clueless.
 
2013-12-23 09:42:43 AM  
This guy smells like he wipes his ass with that beard. Make him go downwind.

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2013-12-23 09:42:45 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


They're not impermissible, they're just backwards, ignorant, and bigoted. He has the right to voice his opinion on this all day every day. And we, and his bosses at A&E, have the right to criticize and naysay his dumbass. See, the first amendment doesn't protect you from criticism, just from being jailed or penalized by the state for what you say.

Now, as I understand it, this may have been impermissible in Canada under their hate speech laws.

/IANAL
/Especially in Canada
 
2013-12-23 09:42:59 AM  

EvilEgg: I had never heard of Duck Dynasty before this brouhaha, I wish I could go back to those days.


It was like a less-pervasive Honey-Boo-Boo type of show.  It was popular enough for ESPN's morning show to dress like them for Halloween, but I heard about it more often from people on the internet, complaining about people watching that crap.

I think it was another reality show that stretched 15 minutes of fame into 20, then when the Q-rating started evaporating their publicist or handler brought up the idea of ginning up controversy.  They tell Phil to go off-script a bit and talk about whatever he feels like, and this is the result.

And what happens as a result of these controversial remarks?  A&E gets a bit of a novelty ratings bump, a handful of merchandise will get sold because of the outrage-industrial-complex stoking conservative ire into a backlash, the dude who said the stupid shiat will get a handful of lucrative speaking engagements from people who sort of agree with things he says (hell, he's likely to end up as a Guest of Honor at CPAC).

Nobody gets poorer as a result of this incident.
 
2013-12-23 09:44:28 AM  

DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.



It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.
 
2013-12-23 09:44:57 AM  
I'm pretty sure the real reason this is continuing is because it's a Slow News Week in politics.

This whole thing is Really Simple: You have the right to say whatever the fark you want. However, anyone can say whatever the fark they want in response. Also, any private business can decide do do whatever they want based on your speech. No government entity is allowed to act based on your speech (assuming it is not violent in nature) - this is all the First Amendment protects.

Calling gays goatfarkers, and being called a bigot are the same thing as far as the first amendment rights are concerned. And being offensive on TV and then getting canned is, again, both legal and expected. It's the Hank Williams Jr Monday Night Football thing all over again - be repugnant, get fired for it, deal with it. Freedom of Speech is not Freedom from Consequences.

Also, I find it pretty sad and ironic that the guy who said Blacks were happy under Jim Crow is being compared to Rosa Parks.
 
2013-12-23 09:45:04 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Nobody gets poorer as a result of this incident.


Except for our public discourse.
 
2013-12-23 09:45:46 AM  

jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.


I know! A guy should have the right to talk at length about his preference for vaginas over anuses in an international magazine, without them icky gays thinking it gives them right to say anything. What makes them people think talking about sexuality is acceptable in America?
 
2013-12-23 09:46:07 AM  
You know, at first I was all annoyed with this bullshiat marketing ploy and all the poutrage about it, but now it's kind of like a hackneyed joke that becomes funny again because it's so hackneyed and repeated.  So whatever, crazy people, whatever.
 
2013-12-23 09:46:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.


This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens
 
2013-12-23 09:47:21 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.


Because as we all know, Christians are dramatically underrepresented in Congress in that there is one open atheist and a Muslim or two.
 
2013-12-23 09:48:29 AM  
Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.
 
2013-12-23 09:48:52 AM  

mayIFark: Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.

This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens


Sort of like the Chik-FIl-A day.
 
2013-12-23 09:49:12 AM  
Hey, I just gave some money to charity..... I guess I'm this generations Jesus.
 
2013-12-23 09:50:01 AM  
Wigger be drunk with power but at least he ain't no cracka' quitta
 
2013-12-23 09:50:02 AM  
Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.
 
2013-12-23 09:50:04 AM  

YodaTuna: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

Weird, no one arrested him.   What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.


People do. All you have to do is change the subject in question. Its been compared many times (for being the most recent two), but it's worth repeating. If you change Pat Robertson with Martin Bashir you will see how 1st amendment does not apply.
 
2013-12-23 09:50:09 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Edit: trying again.


It's like when the 99% or black South Africans complain.


I'm sure no one is going to argue that a minority can't oppress a majority, but do you really think Christians are oppressed in the United States?
 
2013-12-23 09:50:11 AM  
I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.
 
2013-12-23 09:50:17 AM  

DeathBySmiley: Because as we all know, Christians are dramatically underrepresented in Congress in that there is one open atheist and a Muslim or two.


Well then post a graph representing that and not just some simplistic % of population.
 
2013-12-23 09:51:18 AM  
the manufactured-ness of this issue makes me want to put on my tinfoil hat, let's get everyone arguing about black people and gay people forget about that wealth inequality stuff you were all talking about.
 
2013-12-23 09:51:30 AM  

monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.


Not manufactured at all, conservatives just seem to have this natural persecution complex. In their minds they are always the victim, no matter what.
 
2013-12-23 09:51:32 AM  

glmorrs1: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

They're not impermissible, they're just backwards, ignorant, and bigoted. He has the right to voice his opinion on this all day every day. And we, and his bosses at A&E, have the right to criticize and naysay his dumbass. See, the first amendment doesn't protect you from criticism, just from being jailed or penalized by the state for what you say.

Now, as I understand it, this may have been impermissible in Canada under their hate speech laws.

/IANAL
/Especially in Canada


It's a shame there's no efficient way to look up a troll's posting history, because I'd love to parse all the Dixie Chick threads from a decade ago and see what the chump had to say then.
 
2013-12-23 09:53:05 AM  

glmorrs1: monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.

Not manufactured at all, conservatives just seem to have this natural persecution complex. In their minds they are always the victim, no matter what.


It's their penchant for absolutism.  Anything less than total victory is defeat to them.  Anything less than total command and control over every uterus in the world is a conservative's version of 'nightmare'.
 
2013-12-23 09:53:10 AM  

Lackofname: mayIFark: Marcus Aurelius: This story will end eventually.  It will end when WalMart sells out of Duck Dynasty dinner bowls, Duck Dynasty tee shirts, Duck Dynasty bed sheets, Duck Dynasty hand towels, and Duck Dynasty colostomy supplies.

And not a moment before.

This is very much likely. It would most likely be done by the supporters of Pat Robertson and the trademark holder (A&E) earning most of the proceedings.

/the lulz in this one would be epic if that really happens

Sort of like the Chik-FIl-A day.


If I recalled correctly, on Chik-Fil-A day, people lined up to buy their sandwiches. Unless they are franchises where the trademark holders does not get a portion of the total sale, I am not sure how they compare.
 
2013-12-23 09:54:30 AM  
Why would the Puritans found this country if not to get away from thoughts of anuses?  People wouldn't keep making controversial statements like this if the gays would just stop being gay.  Is it easier for a few to change or many? Study it out.  Exactly.
 
2013-12-23 09:54:35 AM  
The guy claimed that black people were happier under Jim Crow laws, so naturally compare him to Rosa Parks. This is really just about a segment of the population freaking out because their racism and bigotry is starting to have major consequences.
 
2013-12-23 09:54:50 AM  

monoski: Nobody cared much when Gilbert Godfried got fired for making offensive comments. Maybe this is a manufactured controversy???
//Not sure there was a gay or black audience for this Duck show.


Because Gilbert Godfried didn't say something insulting about a group of people that a good portion of the United States and high ranking members of a major political party have openly come out and said they wish they would die.
 
2013-12-23 09:54:50 AM  

DeathBySmiley: Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.


Non sequiturial fun fact: In the state of Tennessee, it's illegal for an atheist to run for, or hold, public office.
 
2013-12-23 09:55:42 AM  

MyrnaMinkoff: I grew up in rural Oklahoma. I'm here visiting again. Many of my Facebook friends are from this region. Judging by my feed, you'd think this is the only new story of note from the last several months."Real" America is depressing, but absolutely not surprising. One of them posted about boycotting Cracker Barrel since they pulled merchandise, and then complained but the food is "too expensive" anyway. Jesus Christ.


If a major decision in your life is that you have decided you no longer want to eat at Cracker Barrel, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview.
 
2013-12-23 09:55:52 AM  

Rascal King: The guy claimed that black people were happier under Jim Crow laws, so naturally compare him to Rosa Parks. This is really just about a segment of the population freaking out because their racism and bigotry is starting to have major consequences.


Conservatives: "How DARE you judge us by the content of our character, when you can plainly tell by our being white Christians that we're good people?"
 
2013-12-23 09:56:03 AM  

glmorrs1: DeathBySmiley: Correction, there are now no longer any open atheists in Congress, since Pete Stark isn't there anymore.

Non sequiturial fun fact: In the state of Tennessee, it's illegal for an atheist to run for, or hold, public office.


Several states have such laws on the book. Clearly if anyone wanted to run as atheist in those states the laws would be shot down faster than you could raise the point.
 
2013-12-23 09:56:08 AM  

mayIFark: YodaTuna: jjorsett: The guy not only thought impermissible thoughts, he uttered them out loud. Where others could hear. We can't have that.

Weird, no one arrested him.   What I'm getting here is that you don't understand the 1st amendment.  It's fine, you wouldn't be the first to do so in this ridiculous argument.

People do. All you have to do is change the subject in question. Its been compared many times (for being the most recent two), but it's worth repeating. If you change Pat Robertson with Martin Bashir you will see how 1st amendment does not apply.


Well, yeah, but I think you're forgetting that liberals and further more such as.
 
2013-12-23 09:57:19 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: DeathBySmiley: Because as we all know, Christians are dramatically underrepresented in Congress in that there is one open atheist and a Muslim or two.

Well then post a graph representing that and not just some simplistic % of population.


The "Help we're being oppressed" pie chart is enshrined and widely accepted as a justified mocking of the Christian desire to be the object of persecution, even when their idea of persecution is "not getting special treatment"
 
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