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2013-12-23 09:30:39 AM
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"We're not sure. Are we... black?"
 
2013-12-23 09:35:37 AM
When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?
 
2013-12-23 09:37:27 AM

EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?


I thought there was story floating around in the FW: FW: FW: FW: sphere that he actually tried to cancel the operation but Seal Team Six went in and got the job done despite him.
 
2013-12-23 09:38:20 AM

EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?


If you had been following FOX News properly, you would understand that Seal Team Six went into Pakistan against Obama's express orders, and then when they'd gotten OBL, Obama has no choice but to pretend it was his idea all along.

So no, I'm afraid that doesn't count.
 
2013-12-23 09:42:43 AM

Diogenes: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

I thought there was story floating around in the FW: FW: FW: FW: sphere that he actually tried to cancel the operation but Seal Team Six went in and got the job done despite him.


Oh, they didn't listen to him then.  Why did they listen to him when he told them to stand down at Benghazi?  Our troops are so fickle when it comes to obeying the CNC.
 
2013-12-23 09:45:21 AM

EvilEgg: Diogenes: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

I thought there was story floating around in the FW: FW: FW: FW: sphere that he actually tried to cancel the operation but Seal Team Six went in and got the job done despite him.

Oh, they didn't listen to him then.  Why did they listen to him when he told them to stand down at Benghazi?  Our troops are so fickle when it comes to obeying the CNC.


You're asking ME to make sense of their logic?!  I'm too young for the dementia ward.
 
2013-12-23 09:46:14 AM
I wonder how many of the people who think Obamacare is one of his greatest failures has a kid between the ages of 22 and 26 who are on their plan, have saved money of prescription drugs covered under the Medicare "donut hole" fix, have saved money due to having no lifetime limits on coverage, have been able to buy insurance when previously excluded by preexisting conditions, or have received a refund check because of the 85-15 rule?

And for those who haven't, I wonder how many of them think those things are a failure of government?
 
2013-12-23 09:46:27 AM

Marcus Aurelius: So no, I'm afraid that doesn't count.


I actually never heard that story. Well now I feel dumber for having known that.

/how do you manage to put pants on in the morning?
//I figure having to listen to all the right-wing crap would cause you a brain hemorrhage by now or something
 
2013-12-23 10:06:45 AM
In other news, many (most?) Americans don't realize that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing.
 
2013-12-23 10:11:45 AM

nmrsnr: I wonder how many of the people who think Obamacare is one of his greatest failures has a kid between the ages of 22 and 26 who are on their plan, have saved money of prescription drugs covered under the Medicare "donut hole" fix, have saved money due to having no lifetime limits on coverage, have been able to buy insurance when previously excluded by preexisting conditions, or have received a refund check because of the 85-15 rule?


What are you, daft?

Those are INSURANCE COMPANY decisions, not government. Hell, if it wasn't for government, insurance would be like $5/month, cover you cradle to grave (including prescriptions - we'd also have to kill Medicare B), and get a refund of 110% of our annual premia every month. And everyone would have it.

Instead, Moochelle Obama comes to my doctor's office, hoovers up all the Oxycontin, denies coverage for anyone who paid cap gains taxes in the past 3 years, gives free chemotherapy and Interferon to poor people, and upper-deckers the bathroom while proudly proclaiming she "left a sample in the large specimen tank".
 
2013-12-23 10:11:57 AM
At this point, I guess I should just be refreshed that a news outlet is referring to "failures" as such, and not as "fails".
 
2013-12-23 10:13:28 AM

somedude210: Marcus Aurelius: So no, I'm afraid that doesn't count.

I actually never heard that story. Well now I feel dumber for having known that.

/how do you manage to put pants on in the morning?
//I figure having to listen to all the right-wing crap would cause you a brain hemorrhage by now or something


I never watch FOX News directly.  It's far too stupid, and I'd end up harming my monitor.  I get the information second hand from people that are probably just as bad.  And then I take it all with a grain of salt.
 
2013-12-23 10:16:55 AM

EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?


Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.
 
2013-12-23 10:20:05 AM

Marcus Aurelius: I never watch FOX News directly. It's far too stupid, and I'd end up harming my monitor. I get the information second hand from people that are probably just as bad. And then I take it all with a grain of salt.


"this is how I put pants on in the morning without lighting the house on fire"
 
2013-12-23 10:20:20 AM

EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?


That achievement belongs to Jessica Chastain.
 
2013-12-23 10:26:46 AM
The name Obama has become synonymous with failure.  He has failed resoundingly at everything he has ever done in his entire life.  In the future, not only will his picture appear in the dictionary under "failure", people will be using his name as a generic term for failure.  "My brother-in-law is a total Obama."
 
2013-12-23 10:26:47 AM
Alls I knows is I'm getting better insurance for a lesser price.

Thanks Obama.
 
2013-12-23 10:27:35 AM

Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.


Anyone with Peyton Manning's skills and teammates could've thrown 51 touchdowns, what are we congratulating him for?
 
2013-12-23 10:29:38 AM

Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.


Well, his opponent specifically said he would not go into another country to get OBL, so....
 
2013-12-23 10:30:35 AM
Success? Failure? Compared to what?
 
2013-12-23 10:31:18 AM

Dr Dreidel: nmrsnr: I wonder how many of the people who think Obamacare is one of his greatest failures has a kid between the ages of 22 and 26 who are on their plan, have saved money of prescription drugs covered under the Medicare "donut hole" fix, have saved money due to having no lifetime limits on coverage, have been able to buy insurance when previously excluded by preexisting conditions, or have received a refund check because of the 85-15 rule?

What are you, daft?

Those are INSURANCE COMPANY decisions, not government. Hell, if it wasn't for government, insurance would be like $5/month, cover you cradle to grave (including prescriptions - we'd also have to kill Medicare B), and get a refund of 110% of our annual premia every month. And everyone would have it.

Instead, Moochelle Obama comes to my doctor's office, hoovers up all the Oxycontin, denies coverage for anyone who paid cap gains taxes in the past 3 years, gives free chemotherapy and Interferon to poor people, and upper-deckers the bathroom while proudly proclaiming she "left a sample in the large specimen tank".


FINALLY!  The reasoned voice of a medical expert on FARK.  It's about time.
 
2013-12-23 10:33:11 AM

Stranded On The Planet Dumbass: Success? Failure? Compared to what?


Does it really matter? Is this not the worstest worst thing a blah guy has ever done in the history of ever? Failure, complete and utter failure
 
2013-12-23 10:36:28 AM

Witty_Retort: Thanks Obama.

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2013-12-23 10:37:00 AM

Witty_Retort: Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.

Well, his opponent specifically said he would not go into another country to get OBL, so....


And his predecessor said he didn't know where OBL was and he didn't care.
 
2013-12-23 10:39:59 AM

nmrsnr: Witty_Retort: Thanks Obama.

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I larfed!

/wish I had dual ninja swords

The Jami Turman Fan Club: And his predecessor said he didn't know where OBL was and he didn't care.


I keep forgetting about that. But Bush's big plan to fight OBL was to tell everyone to go shopping. And tax-cuts for the wealthy.
 
2013-12-23 10:40:54 AM
According to the poll, one percent of people see Obama's biggest failure as "being elected in general." Also "heading the largest domestic and global spy network the world has ever known" didn't even crack the list.
 
2013-12-23 10:47:28 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: According to the poll, one percent of people see Obama's biggest failure as "being elected in general." Also "heading the largest domestic and global spy network the world has ever known" didn't even crack the list.


1% of Republicans said his biggest achievement is not getting assassinated.
 
2013-12-23 10:49:42 AM

Witty_Retort: 1% of Republicans said his biggest achievement is not getting assassinated.


further proof that Joe Biden is better protection from assassins than the Secret Service
 
2013-12-23 10:55:17 AM

Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.


W. Bush: "i don't care about Osama". I'm paraphrasing of course, but little Bush had stopped actively hunting him down.

Keep in mind the opinion in the room was pretty split on whether to proceed or not, and Obama decided to go ahead knowing full well he would be exposed politically if the mission failed.

So excuse me, but yes, a lot of people would not have pulled the trigger on that operation. Bush included.
 
2013-12-23 10:57:07 AM

Witty_Retort: Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.

Well, his opponent specifically said he would not go into another country to get OBL, so....


/facepalm
 
2013-12-23 10:57:24 AM

somedude210: Witty_Retort: 1% of Republicans said his biggest achievement is not getting assassinated.

further proof that Joe Biden is better protection from assassins than the Secret Service


According to documents raided from Bin Laden's compound, there was a standing order to not assassinate Joe Biden if given the chance. They thought he would cause more damage to America as president than his death ever could.
 
2013-12-23 11:09:21 AM

Wook: Witty_Retort: Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.

Well, his opponent specifically said he would not go into another country to get OBL, so....

/facepalm


It's not worth moving heaven and Earth to prove you're a moron.
 
2013-12-23 11:15:32 AM
Obamacare is swirling down the toilet, along with his legacy and much of his party.

It is glorious.

There. I said it.
 
2013-12-23 11:15:36 AM

Wook: EvilEgg: When asked about the president's greatest achievement, 40 percent of Republicans say he has none

The Republicans can't even give him killing Osama Bin Laden as an achievement?

Yeah because we all know that anyone except Obama wouldn't have pulled the trigger.  We're so lucky to have him as our leader.  He's a true American hero.


Bush didn't.
 
2013-12-23 11:16:44 AM

nmrsnr: I wonder how many of the people who think Obamacare is one of his greatest failures has a kid between the ages of 22 and 26 who are on their plan, have saved money of prescription drugs covered under the Medicare "donut hole" fix, have saved money due to having no lifetime limits on coverage, have been able to buy insurance when previously excluded by preexisting conditions, or have received a refund check because of the 85-15 rule?

And for those who haven't, I wonder how many of them think those things are a failure of government?


In 15-25 years, Republicans will be crowing about how those things were their ideas, pointing to the Heritage Foundation reports, then scream about how single payer going to take all that away and destroy America and plunge it into "socialist heil(sic)"
 
2013-12-23 11:17:49 AM

Dr Dreidel: nmrsnr: I wonder how many of the people who think Obamacare is one of his greatest failures has a kid between the ages of 22 and 26 who are on their plan, have saved money of prescription drugs covered under the Medicare "donut hole" fix, have saved money due to having no lifetime limits on coverage, have been able to buy insurance when previously excluded by preexisting conditions, or have received a refund check because of the 85-15 rule?

What are you, daft?

Those are INSURANCE COMPANY decisions, not government. Hell, if it wasn't for government, insurance would be like $5/month, cover you cradle to grave (including prescriptions - we'd also have to kill Medicare B), and get a refund of 110% of our annual premia every month. And everyone would have it.

Instead, Moochelle Obama comes to my doctor's office, hoovers up all the Oxycontin, denies coverage for anyone who paid cap gains taxes in the past 3 years, gives free chemotherapy and Interferon to poor people, and upper-deckers the bathroom while proudly proclaiming she "left a sample in the large specimen tank".


Damned Poe's Law.  I don't know whether to be amused at your humor or wonder how long it's been since you've taken your meds.
 
2013-12-23 11:23:27 AM
the polls indicate that things look bad for Obama.
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2013-12-23 11:24:52 AM
Everybody enjoys having a good laugh at Joe Biden's expense. but that's been true of every vice president, with the exception of Dick Cheney who was too terrifying to be laughable. Keep in mind, Abraham Lincoln was considered a buffoon too, right up until he kicked the traitors' collective asses and saved the country. The fact of the matter is that Joe Biden is a thoughtful and effective politician and legislator, and will do an excellent job as president when and if he is elected in 2016. Furthermore, Joe Biden is a genuine human being, a true mensch, who did not use his time in Congress to enrich himself as so many of his fellow politicians have done. Watch this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=GwZ6UfXm410

and tell me again what a fool Joe Biden is. I will cheerfully and confidently vote for him in 2016.
 
2013-12-23 11:28:44 AM

Teufelaffe: Damned Poe's Law. I don't know whether to be amused at your humor or wonder how long it's been since you've taken your meds.


Oh come now, his capitalization isn't nearly random enough for him to be serious.
 
2013-12-23 11:34:16 AM
"Getting troops home/ending wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan and "capturing Osama bin Laden" are listed as his next greatest achievements, tied at 7 percent, the poll found. 

Don't you like actually have to detain someone, instead of gunning them down in a firefight, to count as capturing them?
 
2013-12-23 11:35:33 AM

nmrsnr: Teufelaffe: Damned Poe's Law. I don't know whether to be amused at your humor or wonder how long it's been since you've taken your meds.

Oh come now, his capitalization isn't nearly random enough for him to be serious.


And everyone knows Oxycontin is the White Man's burden...

// be amused
// be very amused
 
2013-12-23 11:38:10 AM

clambam: and tell me again what a fool Joe Biden is. I will cheerfully and confidently vote for him in 2016.


Republicans dislike Joe Biden because he occasionally "gaffes" or says stupid things.

And if there's anything unacceptable to Republicans, it's a stupid politician that says stupid things.

/Love Joe Biden
//Knew he was worth it when he became the target of Teabagger ire
 
2013-12-23 11:40:31 AM
2013 was a pretty bad year.

The health law was a pretty big part of making 2013 bad,  but there was a lot of other bad stuff too.

Tough call.
 
2013-12-23 11:45:52 AM

netcentric: 2013 was a pretty bad year.

The health law was a pretty big part of making 2013 bad,  but there was a lot of other bad stuff too.

Tough call.


Maybe apply yourself a bit more next year?

/chin up, li'l tater
 
2013-12-23 11:48:50 AM

somedude210: Marcus Aurelius: I never watch FOX News directly. It's far too stupid, and I'd end up harming my monitor. I get the information second hand from people that are probably just as bad. And then I take it all with a grain of salt.

"this is how I put pants on in the morning without lighting the house on fire"


Hey, my thighs aren't THAT fat.
 
2013-12-23 11:49:29 AM

colon_pow: Obamacare is swirling down the toilet, along with his legacy and much of his party.

It is glorious.

There. I said it.


cdn.zmescience.com
 
2013-12-23 12:01:02 PM
clambam: ....and tell me again what a fool Joe Biden is. I will cheerfully and confidently vote for him in 2016.

I'd vote for him too.   But I want to check beforehand and make sure before he runs that he understands the meaning of 'Repeal'.
 
2013-12-23 12:04:06 PM

Witty_Retort: The Jami Turman Fan Club: And his predecessor said he didn't know where OBL was and he didn't care.

I keep forgetting about that. But Bush's big plan to fight OBL was to tell everyone to go shopping. And tax-cuts for the wealthy.


Well, it worked.  It took over a decade, but OBL is dead.

Suck it, libs.
 
2013-12-23 12:06:55 PM
FTFA: are "not working with Republicans" at 9 percent, and "lack of communication," at 5 percent.


 
2013-12-23 12:07:52 PM
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