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(Think Progress)   You may have missed it, but the US just helped to avert a Rwandan-style genocide in the Central African Republic   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 80
    More: Spiffy, Central African Republic, Rwanda, United States, Samantha Power, genocide, APB, Assistant Secretary of State, Voice Of America  
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2013-12-23 01:45:22 PM

NobleHam: Too bad another one's coming to South Sudan soon enough.


Well,  apparently the US just has to form a committee.   Situation will be averted.   Mission accomplished S Sudan.   congrats.
 
2013-12-23 01:46:43 PM

johnny queso: legion_of_doo: spawn73:
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Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Wow. Those American soldiers have French FAMAS deadly assault murder rifle weapons.

I was told the French are always surrendering. Why would the need guns for that?


Well, what would we drop while surrendering if we hadn't guns?
 
2013-12-23 01:47:32 PM

legion_of_doo: spawn73:
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Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Wow. Those American soldiers have French FAMAS deadly assault murder rifle weapons.


They're undercover.
 
2013-12-23 01:57:55 PM

netcentric: If you read the article it does appear the US is trying to take a lot of credit for work the African Union and France have been doing for some time.

They have thousands of peacekeepers on the ground, the US has few.

I realize the President made an announcement recently,  but this article seems pretty un-balanced.
I would agree with "This article is grasping at best."


Giving money to the African Union, and sending some advisors to train them is a noble thing.

But consider Afghanistan, everyone knows that the second USA leaves, the Taliban is going to come in fark everything up.

Now imagine CAR, just even more incompetent and corrupt. All you get out of it is some propaganda at home (unless someone blows the whistle that all the money wen't into corruption, and the AU is doing shiat).

The only thing that makes a difference is actual soldiers on the ground, which is was France tends to do in their former colonies.
 
2013-12-23 01:59:20 PM

spawn73: legion_of_doo: spawn73:
[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Wow. Those American soldiers have French FAMAS deadly assault murder rifle weapons.

They're undercover.


Very interesting!  I bet they could even pretend to know the words to the Marseillaise.

/MURICA!
 
2013-12-23 02:02:51 PM
I'm confused here, I thought we have to stop acting like the world's policeman and interfering in other countries' business.  Well, at least, that's what I've been constantly hearing.  Let France sort this shiat out, they were the "Big Bwana" there.
 
2013-12-23 02:06:31 PM
"The Madd Mann: vpb: The US being involved at all in countries that are full of black people and empty of oil is unusual.

Give them time, they're working on the oil thing."

could also be a massive freshwater aquifer under there. Drinking water is the oil of the 21st century after all.


Where TF is Kony anway?
 
2013-12-23 02:11:11 PM
Wait do people in this thread want the workers to get the credit instead of the paymasters!?!

Viva revolucion!

This is truly a great day for Fark.
 
2013-12-23 02:11:19 PM
But you can bet had it not gone well, Obama would've been crucified via every media outlet in the US for weeks.
 
2013-12-23 02:13:24 PM

Cheese eating surrender monkey: johnny queso: legion_of_doo: spawn73:
[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Wow. Those American soldiers have French FAMAS deadly assault murder rifle weapons.

I was told the French are always surrendering. Why would the need guns for that?

Well, what would we drop while surrendering if we hadn't guns?


Trou?
 
2013-12-23 02:20:33 PM
Preventing genocide? That'll never makes the front pages.

//if it doesn't bleed, it gets relegated to a blurb on page 15.
 
2013-12-23 02:38:35 PM

spawn73: neversubmit: machoprogrammer: doczoidberg: Not with Obama in charge, pal.

Suck it, libs. Obama will never get credit for ANYTHING.

Liberals, liberals, liberals, liberals....

Not sure if serious...

Obama really didn't do all that much in this case

Really?

The president of the United States asked for the people of the CAR for calm, speaking to them directly through the Internet and radio. The president shook $100 million loose from the federal budget, to purchase much-needed supplies to the African peacekeepers struggling to stem the killing and airlift in reinforcements.

Activists and U.S. officials alike say that the speed at which the United States has responded is unprecedented and part of it is due to a little heralded document and the bureaucratic tool it created.

Presidential Study Directive 10 (PSD-10) came into being in 2011, declaring for the first time that "preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States."

[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".


Not sure if serious, but those are French soldiers, not Americans (via reverse google image search)

The French did more than the USA to prevent it. Either way, it was awesome it was stopped.
 
2013-12-23 02:38:57 PM

zimbomba63: Hey, that great, but, what about next week.


Bingo.  The U.S.  just abandoned another country to civil war when they shot at U.S. airplanes.
 
2013-12-23 02:45:43 PM

machoprogrammer: spawn73: neversubmit: machoprogrammer: doczoidberg: Not with Obama in charge, pal.

Suck it, libs. Obama will never get credit for ANYTHING.

Liberals, liberals, liberals, liberals....

Not sure if serious...

Obama really didn't do all that much in this case

Really?

The president of the United States asked for the people of the CAR for calm, speaking to them directly through the Internet and radio. The president shook $100 million loose from the federal budget, to purchase much-needed supplies to the African peacekeepers struggling to stem the killing and airlift in reinforcements.

Activists and U.S. officials alike say that the speed at which the United States has responded is unprecedented and part of it is due to a little heralded document and the bureaucratic tool it created.

Presidential Study Directive 10 (PSD-10) came into being in 2011, declaring for the first time that "preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States."

[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Not sure if serious, but those are French soldiers, not Americans (via reverse google image search)

The French did more than the USA to prevent it. Either way, it was awesome it was stopped.


Yes. Good work all round. More publicity might help the same thing happen next time & also make the bad guys think twice.
 
2013-12-23 03:05:57 PM

ArcadianRefugee: vpb: The US being involved at all in countries that are full of black people and empty of oil is unusual.

Didn't you see the article?

[thinkprogress.org image 800x533]

There was a white lady there.


She almost caught AIDS.
 
2013-12-23 03:25:26 PM
I am always amazed at the number of young educated black men and women are completely oblivious to this sort of thing happening in their homeland.

/ sad
 
2013-12-23 03:29:31 PM

netcentric: NobleHam: Too bad another one's coming to South Sudan soon enough.

Well,  apparently the US just has to form a committee.   Situation will be averted.   Mission accomplished S Sudan.   congrats.


And spend a 100 million dollars, you forgot the 100 million dollars.
 
2013-12-23 03:37:29 PM

Cajnik: They're a little late to the party, and I doubt we'll see a followup tag


I got suspended from posting the first time I tried mentioning it here.  Thanks, Fark.

tampaflacouple: I am always amazed at the number of young educated black men and women are completely oblivious to this sort of thing happening in their homeland.

/ sad


Um........ you know Africa is pretty goddamn large, right?  It may not *be* their "homeland" at all, or anywhere near it.

static02.mediaite.com

In other news, I'm always amazed at the number of people in general who are completely oblivious to this sort of thing happening.
 
2013-12-23 03:46:27 PM
I carefully scanned the article for elements to support this statement (FTA): "For all the successes it appears to have helped move forward, the APB is..."

And I found:

1.)  "... the situation in the Central African Republic would be a prime case for the APB, after a lackluster first year of existence. Even fans of the administration's approach found themselves criticizing the board for not effectively working to prevent the mass slaughter being seen in Syria."

2.)  The alarm bells that had started ringing in NGOs and advocacy groups [Wake up the APB- Githerax] in March wouldn't quiet as summer came and went, leaving advocates to begin leveraging the APB [I said wake up!- Githerax] as an accountability mechanism with the administration. "You have the situation where there's increasing sectarian violence in this forgotten country, this is precisely the type of situation that the APB was created to address,"

3.)  The warning that a coalition of activist groups ["activist groups", not the APB- Githerax]published in October would be sound in meetings with administration officials up to and including a meeting with the National Security Staff on December 9. The next day, amid the chaos of his trip to South Africa to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service, President Obama recorded his message to Central Africans while on a layover for refueling in Senegal.

 The White House insists that it has always had the APB at the forefront of the response to the situation in the Central African Republic.

4.)
The response to CAR has been the "high water mark" of the Board, the official continued, noting its role in laying the groundwork for swift action in recent weeks as nearly 1,000 were killed over two days in December [After warnings made in March and published two months prior- Githerax].

5.)   [Samantha] Power [U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, not a member of the APB - Githerax] also pledged $7 million to go towards reconciliation efforts between the CAR's Muslim and Christian communities, whose representatives she met with while in the country.

In the article's conclusion, note this statement:  "Even as Power's trip concluded, heavy gunfire could be heard in the capital. The new outburst of violence in the neighboring South Sudan will also help make clear whether the Atrocities Prevention Board is positioned to swing into action once again or revert to idleness. And it will take time to see if the efforts thus far are nearly enough to stop the bloodshed, or if it will be back to the drawing board in a few months' time."

How's that "civilization" working out for you, citizens of Earth?
 
2013-12-23 03:57:07 PM

tampaflacouple: I am always amazed at the number of young educated black men and women are completely oblivious to this sort of thing happening in their homeland.

/ sad


They say, "Thank god my grandaddy got on that boat."

/you know, that slave boat
 
2013-12-23 04:28:50 PM

tampaflacouple: I am always amazed at the number of young educated black men and women are completely oblivious to this sort of thing happening in their homeland.

/ sad


If they are young and educated and American then this is their homeland. Homeland is about where one is born and more importantly where one was raised.

It is where one fits in, culturally.
 
2013-12-23 04:32:23 PM

ghare: vudukungfu: Michelle probably saw a re-run of The West Wing an it reminded her people in Africa are in trouble, too and she told the O man to do something for those poor poor people. 
So poor

10/10. You'll get bites on that for sure.


I guess they ain't biting today.
Must be the rain

of terror.
 
2013-12-23 05:11:10 PM
Think Progress pimping for the Brother who loves to kill

Brother kill, kill. That's what he do. Kill, kill.

/obama
 
2013-12-23 05:14:19 PM

machoprogrammer: spawn73: neversubmit: machoprogrammer: doczoidberg: Not with Obama in charge, pal.

Suck it, libs. Obama will never get credit for ANYTHING.

Liberals, liberals, liberals, liberals....

Not sure if serious...

Obama really didn't do all that much in this case

Really?

The president of the United States asked for the people of the CAR for calm, speaking to them directly through the Internet and radio. The president shook $100 million loose from the federal budget, to purchase much-needed supplies to the African peacekeepers struggling to stem the killing and airlift in reinforcements.

Activists and U.S. officials alike say that the speed at which the United States has responded is unprecedented and part of it is due to a little heralded document and the bureaucratic tool it created.

Presidential Study Directive 10 (PSD-10) came into being in 2011, declaring for the first time that "preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States."

[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Not sure if serious, but those are French soldiers, not Americans (via reverse google image search)

The French did more than the USA to prevent it. Either way, it was awesome it was stopped.


Yeah, we covered it. Aside from the surrender jokes, it looks like they are carrying FAMAS, not M-4s.

/only dropped once!
 
2013-12-23 06:57:12 PM
this IS spiffy!
 
2013-12-23 06:59:15 PM
*reads this article*

*googles "central african republic"*

*scans headlines....

"Conflict continues in Central African Republic" - Washington Post, 3 hours ago
"2 people lynched in Central African Republic" - USA Today, 7 hours ago
"UN Peacekeeper killed in Central African Republic" - Boston Herald, 2 hours ago

spawn73: legion_of_doo: spawn73:
[gdb.voanews.com image 850x566]
Yeah, thanks USA. "rolls eyes".

Wow. Those American soldiers have French FAMAS deadly assault murder rifle weapons.

They're undercover.


Meanwhile the Kenyan army is running around with Mk-16s
a.abcnews.com
 
2013-12-23 07:45:56 PM
Africa during the Cold War provided numerous challenges and justifications for US intervention. US Presidents wisely avoided involvement - in spite of the presence of Soviet proxy (Cuban) meddling.

The current President seems to be inclined to involve the US militarily, in places where others were smart enough to avoid. Will the American people tolerate their sons and daughters becoming casualties in that continent's endless corruption and conflicts?

This article is a blatant pro-Obama puff piece.
 
2013-12-23 09:50:28 PM
In other news, oil discovered in Rwanda.
 
2013-12-23 11:06:22 PM

minuslars: Meanwhile the Kenyan army is running around with Mk-16s


There's an Obama joke in there, I just know it.
 
2013-12-24 02:30:13 AM
Yep! Hussein Obama sure does act fast to prevent sectarian violence... When the Christians are winning, that is.
 
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