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(AZ Family)   After the Seahawks lost the Cardinals at home, Washington lawmaker responds on Twitter with grace and class. Just kidding. He calls Arizona a racist wasteland   (azfamily.com) divider line 107
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2013-12-23 12:47:40 PM
didn't sound like he apologized, only regretted conflating sports and immigration
 
2013-12-23 12:56:30 PM
if the shoe fits...
 
2013-12-23 01:04:23 PM
HE MAD.
 
2013-12-23 01:05:26 PM
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the KKK?
 
2013-12-23 01:08:16 PM
Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.
 
2013-12-23 01:08:26 PM
He's not wrong.
 
2013-12-23 01:09:30 PM
Well, isn't it?
 
2013-12-23 01:09:38 PM
Arizona just mad cuz they can't prove his allegation is false.
 
2013-12-23 01:09:42 PM
The truth hurts.
 
2013-12-23 01:09:51 PM
I bet AZ is pissed Seattle lost their whole team.
 
2013-12-23 01:10:17 PM
Well where did Seattle remember having Arizona last?
 
2013-12-23 01:10:39 PM
Former resident (as of 2012). He's not wrong. Not by a long shot.
 
2013-12-23 01:10:39 PM

Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.


I thought that was NH
 
2013-12-23 01:11:03 PM
Yeah Arizona is a racist wasteland, but what does hockey have to do with it?
 
2013-12-23 01:11:10 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: I bet AZ is pissed Seattle lost their whole team.


Fark Irony Police: Well where did Seattle remember having Arizona last?


DAMMIT.
 
2013-12-23 01:11:36 PM
Figures a Democrat would whip out the race card for no reason.
 
2013-12-23 01:13:25 PM
 
2013-12-23 01:14:27 PM
static.giantbomb.com
Agrees.
 
2013-12-23 01:15:01 PM
cdn.hiphopdx.org
"What's a smiling face, when the whole state's racist?"


/22 years since that song came out; glad so much as changed in AZ since
 
2013-12-23 01:15:11 PM
The way they treated Russell Wilson on Sunday it's obvious they have a problem with black people.
 
2013-12-23 01:15:16 PM
Seattle fans sure do get butthurt over any loss.
 
2013-12-23 01:16:06 PM

Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.


If you recall, Arizona voted against MLK holiday, however that was the year superbowl was coming to Phoenix.  True story
 
2013-12-23 01:16:10 PM
Nothing he said is incorrect.
 
2013-12-23 01:16:16 PM
Who's the haboob now?
 
2013-12-23 01:16:27 PM
As an Arizonan; while he's not wrong, he's a real jackass to say that in response to a damn sporting event.
 
2013-12-23 01:17:45 PM

cman: Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.

I thought that was NH


NH had a "civil rights" day for a long time.  Kind of like "presidents day."  Don't turn it into a racist thing.
 
2013-12-23 01:17:59 PM
While he probably shouldn't have made that opinion public, Arizona would have a difficult time proving it's inaccurate.

Ask the Hispanic residents.
 
2013-12-23 01:18:05 PM

vento: Seattle fans sure do get butthurt over any loss.


We love our team.

kudos to AZ for stomping us at home.
As long as we win the last game, that's all I care about.
 
2013-12-23 01:18:32 PM
Well, it is, so......


/First ex wife was from there.
//Biggest and scariest racist I ever met was my first exwife's dad, a retired texass ranger. in AZ, where he lived.
///Told me he retired there because there were more white people than in texass.
 
2013-12-23 01:20:08 PM
This guy is hilarious.
He SAYS what the rest of the nation is all thinking!
 
2013-12-23 01:20:49 PM
I don't know, the Cardinals are 10-5, I wouldn't say that losing to them sucks.  Could have been the Redskins or the Texans.
 
2013-12-23 01:21:21 PM
I love these Twitter foibles, no matter who they come from, they let us plebs in on the thinking and sayings which happen out of the view of the cameras.
 
2013-12-23 01:22:12 PM
Prove him wrong Arizona, prove him wrong.

/Not holding my breath
 
2013-12-23 01:22:17 PM
I'm surprised people from Seattle didn't call Oklahoma City a "racist wasteland" when they lost the Supersonics to them. OKC is pretty backwards thinking, even to Arizona standards.

It also doesn't mean that there aren't any "racist wastelands" in Seahawks territory (e.g.: Spokane).
 
2013-12-23 01:22:39 PM
not very hard to stomp a mudhole in a mudhole.
 
2013-12-23 01:22:56 PM
Now thousands of conservatives will rally to his defense because 1st amendment, right? Hello? *crickets*
 
2013-12-23 01:24:21 PM
Those sort of broad sweeping insults are to be expected from the dumbasses that frequent message boards*, but not from people who hold public office.  Even if it was true, do Washingtonians really want someone that thinks and acts like that representing them?  Then again, they do border Canada and we all know how public officials roll up there.  Must be something about that northern air.


* Of course I include myself in that generalization
 
2013-12-23 01:25:04 PM
It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.
 
2013-12-23 01:26:38 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: I don't know, the Cardinals are 10-5, I wouldn't say that losing to them sucks.  Could have been the Redskins or the Texans.


If it had been the Redskins, he could have tweeted about losing to that waste of a team with the racist name.
 
2013-12-23 01:28:37 PM
That might be true.

It is definitely true that the Cardinals brought their 'A' game and laid a beat down on the 'Hawks.
 
2013-12-23 01:29:13 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.


You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?
 
2013-12-23 01:31:46 PM
I hate people who make broad, sweeping generalizations... and the Dutch.
 
2013-12-23 01:32:05 PM
Omitting a preposition __ the headline makes a mockery __ it's meaning, causing hilarious disdain __ the submitter.
 
2013-12-23 01:35:56 PM

Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.


Last state to grant government employees a free day off, you mean.

Washington state is devoid of brown people.
 
2013-12-23 01:36:58 PM

twomutts: DoBeDoBeDo: I don't know, the Cardinals are 10-5, I wouldn't say that losing to them sucks.  Could have been the Redskins or the Texans.

If it had been the Redskins, he could have tweeted about losing to that waste of a team with the racist name.


Also, if they lost to the Texans he wouldn't have to change the tweet about Arizona
 
2013-12-23 01:38:23 PM
good thing the Seahawks don't have any players from Arizona...

oh wait
 
2013-12-23 01:40:16 PM
www.atwillett.com
 
2013-12-23 01:40:32 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.


img12.imageshack.us

Would like a word with you.  As would all the Hispanics, Native Americans, etc in the state.
 
2013-12-23 01:40:45 PM

TheSwissNavy: Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.

Last state to grant government employees a free day off, you mean.

Washington state is devoid of brown people.


Oh, it was principled stance against having a holiday, huh? Yeah, ok.
 
2013-12-23 01:43:02 PM
I thought that Hispanics have been white ever since the Zimmerman trial, and thus Arizona is no longer racist?
 
2013-12-23 01:45:56 PM

TheSwissNavy: Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.

Last state to grant government employees a free day off, you mean.

Washington state is devoid of brown people.


Not true. We have one do our yard.
 
2013-12-23 01:55:39 PM
Just as the actions of certain Christians helped make me an Atheist, the ridiculous divisiveness that sports engenders in certain fans has kept me from wanting anything to do any balls, whether they be base, foot or basket.
 
2013-12-23 01:58:50 PM

ShawnDoc: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.



Would like a word with you.  As would all the Hispanics, Native Americans, etc in the state.


Oh yeah, how could I forget the large Native American contingent... What are they, 2%, including all the blonde haired guys with animals for middle names?
 
2013-12-23 01:59:12 PM
Was it Joe Fitzgibbon... or Gibbon Fitzjoe? He's from West Seattle, he prolly can't spell Seahawks.

/we should send him to AZ to face Sheriff Joe...it'd be the battle of the Joes. The stupidest one wins.
 
2013-12-23 02:00:28 PM
A lot of people have obviously never been to Arizona, or if they have, they didn't get very far from Interstate-10. 1/4 of the land is Native American reservations (more reservations than any other state I think), Nearly a third of the population is Hispanic. 1/4 of the desert wasteland is actually forest. The largest stand of Ponderosa pine in the world is in Arizona. This isn't some white wonderbread Sahara.

Seriously, fark's definition of Arizona is Maricopa county.
 
2013-12-23 02:01:58 PM
On NO!

I wonder how many people were traumatized after they were FORCED to read a guy's Twitter comments. Oh, the HUMANITY!
 
2013-12-23 02:02:07 PM

Weisenheimer: Just as the actions of certain Christians helped make me an Atheist, the ridiculous divisiveness that sports engenders in certain fans has kept me from wanting anything to do any balls, whether they be base, foot or basket.


I noticed that you left scrotum off of the list.

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-12-23 02:03:21 PM
"He calls Arizona a racist wasteland"


How is that different than Fark?  And how is it different than how Fark treats Arizona?
 
2013-12-23 02:04:38 PM

DesertCoyote: I'm surprised people from Seattle didn't call Oklahoma City a "racist wasteland" when they lost the Supersonics to them. OKC is pretty backwards thinking, even to Arizona standards.

It also doesn't mean that there aren't any "racist wastelands" in Seahawks territory (e.g.: Spokane).


Go ahead and hate on Spokane. It's certainly not a socialist paradise like Seattle but it's hardly a wasteland.

www.gonzaga.edu
 
2013-12-23 02:07:17 PM
AZ desert wasteland:
fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-12-23 02:10:29 PM
Which of those two words does subby disagree with?
 
2013-12-23 02:11:21 PM
He's right, you know.
 
2013-12-23 02:11:40 PM
This being Washington and he a liberal, I suspect some wacky tabacky was involved.
 
2013-12-23 02:13:29 PM
Well he's not lying...
 
2013-12-23 02:14:52 PM

JesseL: AZ desert wasteland:
[fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net image 850x637]


Hell on earth

i798.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-23 02:15:32 PM

desertgeek: As an Arizonan; while he's not wrong, he's a real jackass to say that in response to a damn sporting event.


Why? It doesn't make it less true.
 
2013-12-23 02:21:20 PM
I left Arizona ten years ago and it wasn't' like that. Now it is. The truth hurts.

/You can never go home again
 
2013-12-23 02:23:06 PM

Disgruntled Goat: desertgeek: As an Arizonan; while he's not wrong, he's a real jackass to say that in response to a damn sporting event.

Why? It doesn't make it less true.


Because the players for Arizona are probably 95% African American?  I hated Seattle losing to AZ as much as any Seahawks fan, but the guy should know that a team doesn't represent the political atmosphere of the state they play in.

\for better or for worse
 
2013-12-23 02:25:25 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.


Census Data


Admittedly, Washington is a whopping 81.6% white as opposed to the national average of 77.9%.  But it's sweet of you to dismiss a fifth of the population of the state in one comment like that.
 
2013-12-23 02:30:26 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.


If they never have to interact with the colored people, how can they be racist?

"I've never met a [insert race] person I didn't like. All three of them were great people!"
 
2013-12-23 02:30:33 PM

Cletus C.: DesertCoyote: I'm surprised people from Seattle didn't call Oklahoma City a "racist wasteland" when they lost the Supersonics to them. OKC is pretty backwards thinking, even to Arizona standards.

It also doesn't mean that there aren't any "racist wastelands" in Seahawks territory (e.g.: Spokane).

Go ahead and hate on Spokane. It's certainly not a socialist paradise like Seattle but it's hardly a wasteland.

[www.gonzaga.edu image 300x200]


Yeah, that's a nice picture, but I lived in Spokane for a year, and it pretty much sucks.

/Seattle area now
 
2013-12-23 02:32:08 PM
Seattle's breakdown from city-data.com for what its worth
White alone - 408,947 (65.9%)
Asian alone - 95,534 (15.4%)
Black alone - 45,407 (7.3%)
Hispanic - 37,635 (6.1%)
Two or more races - 27,101 (4.4%)
American Indian alone - 4,172 (0.7%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 1,361 (0.2%)
Other race alone - 620 (0.10%)
 
2013-12-23 02:36:34 PM
I hope A&E suspends him from his show.
 
2013-12-23 02:43:01 PM

violentsalvation: JesseL: AZ desert wasteland:
[fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net image 850x637]

Hell on earth

[i798.photobucket.com image 850x637]



BWHAHAHA! i don't think those pictures are having the effect that you think they are. Especially when put next to that Spokane picture.
 
2013-12-23 02:49:41 PM
Whenever the state where I went to college fights with the state I was born in, I has a sad.  Arizonans, Washingtonians, can't we all just get along?  And by 'get along' I mean turn our hatred toward the real enemy: the Forty-Niners.
 
2013-12-23 02:50:43 PM
Anyone check the couch cushions?
 
2013-12-23 02:52:32 PM
As a gay, black female who ticks many of the minority boxes, I have not had a single incident in AZ related to my race or my orientation. Now, where I'm originally from in PA is a much different story.

There are many things I dislike about AZ,(and I'm only here because my parents are in their twilight years and I help care for them). But I found PA to be far more racist than AZ.
 
2013-12-23 02:52:58 PM
Also, Yakima.
 
2013-12-23 02:55:18 PM

ariseatex: Whenever the state where I went to college fights with the state I was born in, I has a sad.  Arizonans, Washingtonians, can't we all just get along?  And by 'get along' I mean turn our hatred toward the real enemy: the Forty-Niners.


No we can't. We are diametrically opposed. We'd take a Californian before an Arizonan. Hell, we'd even consider a Floridian first.
 
2013-12-23 03:04:31 PM

kevinatilusa: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

Census Data


Admittedly, Washington is a whopping 81.6% white as opposed to the national average of 77.9%.  But it's sweet of you to dismiss a fifth of the population of the state in one comment like that.


It's cute that you think 11% Hispanic and less than 4% black makes you "diverse."
 
2013-12-23 03:10:06 PM

cman: Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.

I thought that was NH


It was NH. My father-in-law was one of the legislators that lead the efforts of passing that law. Pisses me off when people assume Arizona was last.

/We were next to last, dammit!
//Can't even be in last place right.
 
2013-12-23 03:12:00 PM
I love the contrast in Fark-reaction to this guy vs. Duck Dynasty guy.
 
2013-12-23 03:24:28 PM

vento: Seattle fans sure do get butthurt over any loss.


GO THUNDER!
 
2013-12-23 05:09:06 PM
Huge huge high fives to Cardinals putting the biatch slap on those arrogant waterheads
 
2013-12-23 05:34:59 PM
there's racists in every state including WA & the city Seattle.
 
2013-12-23 05:52:26 PM

CivicMindedFive: I love the contrast in Fark-reaction to this guy vs. Duck Dynasty guy.


Funny because the defenders of that redneck are nowhere to be found defending this guy
 
2013-12-23 05:54:18 PM

Waldo Pepper: Seattle's breakdown from city-data.com for what its worth
White alone - 408,947 (65.9%)
Asian alone - 95,534 (15.4%)
Black alone - 45,407 (7.3%)
Hispanic - 37,635 (6.1%)
Two or more races - 27,101 (4.4%)
American Indian alone - 4,172 (0.7%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 1,361 (0.2%)
Other race alone - 620 (0.10%)


Interesting.  Are Indians included in the Asian group?  I guess India is in Asia, but I would have considered Indian a different race.  Anyway, more than half my office is Indian, so 15.4% seems kind of low.
 
2013-12-23 05:56:02 PM
TheSwissNavy:

Washington state is devoid of brown people.

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

/You're correct once you start heading east, excluding reservations.
//Meanwhile AZ cops pull over Navajo to make them prove citizenship.
 
2013-12-23 06:10:06 PM
Should have used the obvious tag.
 
2013-12-23 06:11:31 PM

Warlordtrooper: CivicMindedFive: I love the contrast in Fark-reaction to this guy vs. Duck Dynasty guy.

Funny because the defenders of that redneck are nowhere to be found defending this guy


Defend him from what? he's not getting fired, nobody is even saying he should be.
 
2013-12-23 06:20:07 PM

Craw Fu: Waldo Pepper: Seattle's breakdown from city-data.com for what its worth
White alone - 408,947 (65.9%)
Asian alone - 95,534 (15.4%)
Black alone - 45,407 (7.3%)
Hispanic - 37,635 (6.1%)
Two or more races - 27,101 (4.4%)
American Indian alone - 4,172 (0.7%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 1,361 (0.2%)
Other race alone - 620 (0.10%)

Interesting.  Are Indians included in the Asian group?  I guess India is in Asia, but I would have considered Indian a different race.  Anyway, more than half my office is Indian, so 15.4% seems kind of low.


I believe these numbers are a couple of years old.
 
2013-12-23 07:12:05 PM

Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?


Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.
 
2013-12-23 07:21:11 PM

Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.


Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
 
2013-12-23 07:40:48 PM

dobro: Now thousands of conservatives will rally to his defense because 1st amendment, right? Hello? *crickets*


Now thousands of liberals will loudly decry him as an obvious racist unfit to hold public office, right? Hello? *crickets*
 
2013-12-23 07:55:24 PM

Walker: Well it's true. Last state to approve Martin Luther King holiday.


www.phuturelabs.com
 
2013-12-23 08:45:36 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.


What the fark are you trolling about? EVERYONE is here. There is not a single country on Earth I haven't seen represented in WA. Now, maybe you think there aren't enough minorities, to which I say fark You, because I'm not going to force hot climate people to move from sunny California to freezing NW Washington to fulfill a racist quota put out by assholes. If your point is some other load of steaming bullshiat, I would like to point out that racism is not whatever you want it to be, but is really about, oh These Protestors in Phoenix, Sheriff Joe Arpaio's continued employment, and This Anecdote of Discrimination This Arizonan Wrote After The Immigration Law Passed in 2010.

Y'know, the bad things. Not just census percentages.
 
2013-12-23 08:57:55 PM

Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map


I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.
 
2013-12-23 08:58:30 PM
*all but two three
 
2013-12-23 09:23:33 PM
Just because it's true, in no way means you should put it on twitter.
 
2013-12-23 09:39:11 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.


It would stand to reason that the most populous states would have the most of any group of *x*.  Most Jewish Widow's League members, most GLBQTLBACACP Born on Tuesday memebers.  Most Racist Hate Group members...

I actually did the per-capita numbers.  It's about what you would expect.
 
2013-12-23 09:41:05 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.


Oh yeah.  A lot of the northern urban hate groups are Nation of Islam chapters, and other minority separatists groups.  So they don't really quallify as "White Supremacists."  Still asshats, just asshats of a different color.

/ Try the veal!
 
2013-12-23 09:52:53 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.


i like how this group from D.C is labeled.
Masjid Al-Islam General Hate

must be some great meetings.
 
2013-12-24 12:37:15 AM

Cletus C.: DesertCoyote: I'm surprised people from Seattle didn't call Oklahoma City a "racist wasteland" when they lost the Supersonics to them. OKC is pretty backwards thinking, even to Arizona standards.

It also doesn't mean that there aren't any "racist wastelands" in Seahawks territory (e.g.: Spokane).

Go ahead and hate on Spokane. It's certainly not a socialist paradise like Seattle but it's hardly a wasteland.

[www.gonzaga.edu image 300x200]


Also, the city's so racist it elected an African-American mayor.
 
2013-12-24 03:28:53 AM
Hell, Even our "Superheros" are minorities.  Phoenix Jones anybody?
 
2013-12-24 08:34:21 AM

Rent Party: InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.

Oh yeah.  A lot of the northern urban hate groups are Nation of Islam chapters, and other minority separatists groups.  So they don't really quallify as "White Supremacists."  Still asshats, just asshats of a different color.

/ Try the veal!


NOI could barely be called Muslims, and they do advocate for segregation, but a hate group?
 
2013-12-24 12:09:55 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

[citation]

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.

Oh yeah.  A lot of the northern urban hate groups are Nation of Islam chapters, and other minority separatists groups.  So they don't really quallify as "White Supremacists."  Still asshats, just asshats of a different color.

/ Try the veal!

NOI could barely be called Muslims, and they do advocate for segregation, but a hate group?


The Southern Poverty Law Center defines a hate group as a group with "beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics."

So when they say things like "White devil,"  etc, then yes, they qualify.
 
2013-12-24 01:30:01 PM

Rent Party: InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: InterruptingQuirk: Rent Party: Finger51: Rent Party: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's so cute when people from states with no minorities call other states racist.

You know we had a Chinese governor not too long ago, right?

Pacific NW states also have the highest populations of white supremacist organizations in the union.

Perhaps in some alternate universe.  But in this one, it's all down there in the red-neck south.  I'd hate to see what this looked like in per-capita terms, because those poor bastards in Montana and the Dakotas are going to look like real assholes.

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http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

I notice that NY and NJ beat out all but two of the Southern states and California puts them all to shame according to that map. Per Capita considerations not withstanding.

Oh yeah.  A lot of the northern urban hate groups are Nation of Islam chapters, and other minority separatists groups.  So they don't really quallify as "White Supremacists."  Still asshats, just asshats of a different color.

/ Try the veal!

NOI could barely be called Muslims, and they do advocate for segregation, but a hate group?

The Southern Poverty Law Center defines a hate group as a group with "beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics."

So when they say things like "White devil,"  etc, then yes, they qualify.


I've just never gotten that vibe from them. They occasionally hand out their periodical in the neighborhood and they will courteously provide a copy to anybody.
Broad brushes paint both ways I would say.
 
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